stanger503
10-06-2003, 12:35 PM
1.cliff burton
2.jason newsted
3.robert trujillo
2.jason newsted
3.robert trujillo
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This is a search-engine-friendly text mirror of the TalkBass Forums stanger503 10-06-2003, 12:35 PM 1.cliff burton 2.jason newsted 3.robert trujillo Figjam 10-06-2003, 02:57 PM Cliff Burton for me. (PS< i hate rob trujillo) He just,, doesnt fit the physical look of Metallica. Viktor 10-06-2003, 03:03 PM Well the thing they are very different bassist from each other. My favourite is Cliff Burton...but he's a chord playing plucking machine.(+ a headbanging animal) Jason didn't relly do his stuff...but he was a live freak!(love his live performance) Trujillo doesen't relly fit with them(by look)...he look's like he could play with KORN...His hear style and all that!But I can't wait to hear what is he goin' to do on the next album! metron 10-06-2003, 03:06 PM Cliff hands down. Others stand in his shadow. He was my first bass hero (pulling teeth)... :bassist: bill h 10-06-2003, 03:38 PM Sorry to go against the grain - ROB has chops that are insane. What does looks have to do with a bass player? You have to remember that Rob did not get to write the bass line to the new album. Have a listen to some Infectious Grooves then tell me about how he does not look cool. metron 10-06-2003, 03:39 PM Cliff was the ugliest of them all thats for sure! :bassist: tplyons 10-06-2003, 09:53 PM Well, I'm definately against the grain here. Jason Newsted was in my opinion the best for Metallica. He played the typical bassist role, by laying down deep, grooving basslines, and although he had no Orion or Anesthesia-esque solos, his bass ability is definately up there. Jason is the reason I play bass, the way he stays in the pocket, and merges Lars' and James' playing. In my opinion, Cliff was too melodic, too much of a lead player to play bass, he wanted to play lead bass and spent way too much time on the upper frets. Now Rob, that's another story, he's a hell of a bassist, but he's not a good fit AT ALL for Metallica! -- And he looks like a gorilla! raised_fist 10-07-2003, 09:12 AM I agree, Newsted would have to be my favourite. I think Cliff is fantastic, don't get me wrong, I loved his SOLOS - Although when is came down to actually playing behind James and Kirk, I found Jason's lines a lot more interesting and fun to play than anything that Cliff did. Mr-Wunderful 10-07-2003, 05:29 PM Got to see Metallica with Cliff in 85 or 86 he was a monster live in the middle of the show he took center stage and busted out a killer bass solo. That was the Master of Puppets tour I believe. ColdYinTiger 10-07-2003, 05:29 PM I've loved his playing, and seen him live and he is a great player. He got me into bass before I even decided to take it up. Cliff I like, but they brutalized him in the mix more then they did to Jason. He was a good player who was melodic, though something about it that didn't sit right... as if the rest of the band was like "Go Nuts!" and then slowly began to lower his volume from on the mixing table. With that said, I love his solo's. Rob is an awsome musician, though I was really confused that he was the one chosen for Metallica.... I am looking forward to hear what a new cd would sound like with them now that they have Rob. By-Tor 10-07-2003, 07:49 PM Throughout the Metallica history, there has been only one "Metallica" bassist! Matt Till 10-07-2003, 08:16 PM Originally posted by maninbox Sorry to go against the grain - ROB has chops that are insane. What does looks have to do with a bass player? You have to remember that Rob did not get to write the bass line to the new album. Have a listen to some Infectious Grooves then tell me about how he does not look cool. Oh yeah, Rob's a bass monster, no doubt. He's my favorite bassist of the three... but my favorite Metallica bassist is Bob Rock. *tries to hold back* BWAHHHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAAAA! canopener 10-07-2003, 09:38 PM Cliff. I'm not a Metallica fan, but at least Cliff liked Thin Lizzy. JMX 10-08-2003, 06:56 AM Ron McGovney :p the ombudsman 10-08-2003, 07:52 AM Originally posted by JMX Ron McGovney :p You beat me on that one! And where's Bob Rock? :D Seriously, Cliff, Jason and Rob are three kicka$$ bassists. I like'em all (pun kind of intended). MAJOR METAL 10-08-2003, 12:33 PM Jason is my favorite, I do think Metallica could of used his gifts more, you can barely hear Jason on any of their records. Anyone think Jason will ever play with Metallica again?. herrera 10-08-2003, 12:45 PM of course in the metallica reunion for a copilation of the metallica greatest hits and a world tour ....your heard that?.... IT IS THE SOUND OF MONEY tplyons 10-08-2003, 09:33 PM Originally posted by MAJOR METAL Jason is my favorite, I do think Metallica could of used his gifts more, you can barely hear Jason on any of their records. Anyone think Jason will ever play with Metallica again?. No. As an "employee" of Chophouse Records, I'm privy to his thoughts of playing with Metallica. He's moved on in life and found brothers in Voivod, a Canadian Thrash band that's been around since the eighties. Besides Voivod, his stint with Ozzy is a dream come true and he will ride that to the fullest extent, and perhaps with Zakk and Black Label Society in the future. Never know. On the side, Jason's Chophouse Record Label is a way to vent his other musical interests with projects such as Echobrain, Papa Wheelie, Filthy Young Impalors, IR8, Sexoturica and more. Jason is very happy doing what he's doing, and he was actually stuffing his own envelopes just after leaving Metallica. As a matter of fact, he mails me a new album each time it comes out on Chophouse Records. And if any of you are huge Jason fans, stop by chophouserecords.com, I moderate the message boards over there and it's a great family feeling! Joe Turski 10-09-2003, 05:29 AM Ok here we go! Trujillo is an incredible bass player! The work he did with "Infectious Grooves" was true rob style....he should stick with what he does best...and it's not Metallica! Newsted is also an incredible bass player! He did fit the Metallica mold but has done better work with "Flotsom & Jetsom". I'm glad he moved on to things he wanted to do. He needed to quit being the bass bitch for James & Lars!! Burton was Metallica at their best! He helped make Metallica who they where! "Kill'em all, Lightning, and Puppets" where the metal albums to set the standards for many metal acts to follow! (Not to mention his death helped gave them more notability...R.I.P.) Cliff will always be my choice!!! :) ShockBlueXterra 10-09-2003, 09:46 AM http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/bassgoddesses/JAS128_JPG.art I choose Jason Newsted. Rob just doesn't fit the picture.. Cliff was great , til his tragic death. RIP, Cliff Caroline thrash_jazz 10-09-2003, 10:02 AM Originally posted by StupidMatt but my favorite Metallica bassist is Bob Rock. Damn, you beat me to that one! :D Airsick Pilot 10-12-2003, 05:49 AM Bob Rock rocks :D Jazz Ad 10-12-2003, 06:09 AM Originally posted by maninbox Sorry to go against the grain - ROB has chops that are insane. What does looks have to do with a bass player? You have to remember that Rob did not get to write the bass line to the new album. Have a listen to some Infectious Grooves then tell me about how he does not look cool. Rob has chops but has nothing to do in Metallica. We're talking about metal so yes, look is crucial and definitively important. You said it, he's cool. What the hell is a cool guy doing in a metal band ? He simply is a misfit. cwbassist 10-12-2003, 10:31 AM I voted for cliff, he was just a hell of a musician and he is one of the people inspired me to play bass dave_clark69 10-12-2003, 01:57 PM Yeah there has only been 1 mettalica bassist. The new mettalica isnt "mettalica" it is "nu-mettalica" They used to be able to play above the rest with their cool riffs. Now the rock they played has progressively deterirated down to thrashing your guitars and double bass drums. Their bass player may be good, its just he doesn't have a chance to show off. stanger503 10-12-2003, 05:44 PM The new mettalica isnt "mettalica" it is "nu-mettalica" They used to be able to play above the rest with their cool riffs. Now the rock they played has progressively deterirated down to thrashing your guitars and double bass drums. Their bass player may be good, its just he doesn't have a chance to show off. yea also last i knew there was only one way to spell metallica also.i didnt start this tab to dis anyone especailly the entire band.from my point of view they are playing the old **** better than they have in 10 freekin years or more.it sounds like it did when it first came out.so just please only comments about the bass players in the band...yes i do get offended by that kinda stuff.:bassist: bring metal to the people.!!!! jammadave 10-17-2003, 03:18 PM Jason was the best "fit" for the metallica groove*. Cliff was insane and fantastically gifted, and Rob is a funkin' bass master, but neither seem to fit, for me. Heh, does McGovney even count? (*)That's what I loved about metallica, from Kill'Em All (or even No Life Til Leather) through ReLoad, it all oozed with this sense of "groove" while being pretty dang heavy. That put them in my #1 Metal slot, cause for any music, if it aint got groove, why listen? (And that said, why listen to St Anger? blech. The first official disappointment, IMHO.) Oh, and Trujillo had no business being on the Icon show on MTV. I still love 'tallica and hold out hope for the next record. Meanwhile, I'ma go listen to some Morphine and chill out. Sanctum 10-17-2003, 03:19 PM If anyone, like me, ever saw Metallica with Cliff playing, there wouldn't even be a poll. I'm ashamed of you all!!! metron 10-17-2003, 03:21 PM Never saw them play with Cliff but I agree with Sanctum. Metal Mitch 10-17-2003, 04:25 PM Have to agree with Sanctum here too. I saw Cliff live once on the Ride the Lightning tour and the band has never been the same without him. Also had the chance to see him opening the Blizzard of Oz tour but I figured seeing them open for "Mr. Top 40 Metal" wasn't cool enough and I would wait for them to come around again on a smaller show... :rolleyes: oh well, been kicking myself for that one ever since. Also don't understand why so many posts here only acknowledge his soloing/lead bass type stuff. His bottom stuff was completely kickass with lots of octave work. Very classic rock/metal and classical bass influenced, maybe too subtle for most people to notice. With the exception of the Garage Days '87 release, I never liked anything Jason played on at all. Not with ALTERNIKA, not with Flotsam & Jetsam, not on the new Voivod. Chops yes, but none of Cliff's feel for "metal groove" or any of his raw aggression. When I saw him on the Justice For All tour I resolved never to waste my money seeing that band again. Rob who? Ohhhh that funk guy from Infectious Grooves... even Rudy Sarzo was better with Ozzy, he had that classic solid powerful minimalist metal style ala Cliff Williams etc etc. lamarjones 10-17-2003, 05:07 PM I read the question, and I say Rob, with Jason a close second. If the question was 'bassist on metallica recording' it would have been Cliff. All three have their pros and cons. Pros, lots, cons, not lots. j-raj 10-20-2003, 02:38 PM Les Claypool! :D j-bass-kreep 10-20-2003, 08:02 PM To me there is no one better than newsted and his departure from metallica affected metallica very significantly,because he did all the backup vocals when they where playing live and had a lot of prescense ,he also let the guitars shine do solos and take "lead" as they are supossed to do, cliff burton just out shined all the members of the band and didn't fit with them.WIth Rob is a different story I don't like his low end thumping I would ratter see him with POD or some other Nu-metal band. -please excuse my poor spelling and grammar I'm from Mexico Sanctum 10-20-2003, 11:20 PM Originally posted by j-bass-kreep cliff burton just out shined all the members of the band and didn't fit with them. -please excuse my poor spelling and grammar I'm from Mexico Ok if I'm ever in Mexico, remind me to smack you. He fit in perfectly. Go back and listen to the first three albums. Then, when you're still in doubt, listen to them again. Lather, rinse, repeat. artistanbul 10-22-2003, 11:26 AM Best bassist IN Metallica is IMO hands down Rob. He may be a Half-Orc :D but still.. Best bassist FOR Metallica would be Jason. Cliff?.. Well I don't like the idea of a bassist who should be playing guitar.. cliffburtonfan 10-22-2003, 11:43 AM Sorry brother but cliff never touched or played a guitar seriously in his life. He always was a bassist and never wanted to be anything else. You have to look past his superb soloing to see that, his actual 'bass' work within the band was just as good and added something really different to Metallica, theve never really got it back IMO. Oh yeh cliff was their best bassist and IMO one of the best bassists who ever lived. cheers :bassist: Viktor 10-22-2003, 01:45 PM Originally posted by j-raj Les Claypool! :D Yeah!I saw this interview where Les tells a story how he went to their audition,he told a joke,slaped the hell out of the bass.....but they didn't call him back!Oh...yeah by the way nobody laught to his joke! I would love to se him play a few songs with them(like master of puppets-attachment)) And once more CLIFF RULES!!!!! Viktor 10-22-2003, 01:51 PM Originally posted by j-raj Les Claypool! :D Yeah!I saw this interview where Les tells a story how he went to their audition,he told a joke,slaped the hell out of the bass.....but they didn't call him back!Oh...yeah by the way nobody laught to his joke! I would love to se him play a few songs with them(like master of puppets-attachment)) And once more CLIFF RULES!!!!! Viktor 10-22-2003, 01:56 PM How the hell do you attach a file here???????:confused: artistanbul 10-23-2003, 06:23 AM Originally posted by cliffburtonfan Sorry brother but cliff never touched or played a guitar seriously in his life. He always was a bassist and never wanted to be anything else. You have to look past his superb soloing to see that, his actual 'bass' work within the band was just as good and added something really different to Metallica, theve never really got it back IMO. Oh yeh cliff was their best bassist and IMO one of the best bassists who ever lived. cheers :bassist: Well I never said he played guitar, I said he SHOULD be playing guitar. I bet you've seen his live actions, and saw some of his solos. Alternate picks and moves just like a guitarist. And SOUND much like a guitar. He would probably be a nice guitarist, but not my taste of bass, no... Of coure anyone is free to like him. cliffburtonfan 10-23-2003, 11:10 AM fair point, but still dont think he'd make a nice guitarist because he never used a pick. he could probably learn pretty quick though lol Ralphdaddy 11-07-2003, 10:29 AM There is no doubt about it, hands down Cliff Burton was the best Metallica ever had, and ever WILL have. Not only could you hear every note he played, unlike Newsted who was usually placed too low in the mix, but Cliff made metal beautiful with an instrument everyone says is ugly and he proved it could be a viable solo instrument even in metal music. He was brilliant and all you need to do to know this is listen to Master of Puppets about ten times, as well as Anesthesia. We lost a god when he passed on. Viktor 11-09-2003, 03:21 PM Originally posted by Ralphdaddy There is no doubt about it, hands down Cliff Burton was the best Metallica ever had, and ever WILL have. Not only could you hear every note he played, unlike Newsted who was usually placed too low in the mix, but Cliff made metal beautiful with an instrument everyone says is ugly and he proved it could be a viable solo instrument even in metal music. He was brilliant and all you need to do to know this is listen to Master of Puppets about ten times, as well as Anesthesia. We lost a god when he passed on. DAMN YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!!!:D SlavaF 11-24-2003, 09:33 PM Cliff for me. I love all the albums he did with Metallica, and as much as I like AJFA with Jason, the bass is inaudible, and after the new decade, Metallica turned into crap... (Craptastica?) And how can you not love Anaesthesia??:bassist: :D :cool: And I completely agree with Ralphdaddy! ~Psychedelic~ 11-24-2003, 09:56 PM Cliff Burton was amazing....I don't like Metallica:hmm: cliff is god. 11-25-2003, 08:44 AM I think its obvious who I like the most by my screen name. Clif played thrash like no one else, he played never using a pick but always got the speed, his solos were amaing, Look at the Trauma video(Cliffs First band www.allmetallica.com) PLayed so well and melodicly, I never got a chance to see Cliff live seeming he dieed three tears before my birth. I Hvae a verions of ride the lightning and cliff plays so fasst and well, his remdition of the national anthme is pure majic. Jason was a good bass player,but Cliff had the speed, but jason did have the amaing live permoance with backing vocals, lead vocals and of course the claping breakdownin Enter Sandman,and how can not like his hair cut from 86? Rob I can't really jude nothing they play is really him. When i saw them live over the summer hedid a small solo with cliffs picture in the backround. The most he did on stage was hi ninjitsubass technics, and spinng really fast. I need to hear him on a Metallica album to judge how he fits with metallica. And someone said cliff helped them with Kill "em All,thats false he and kirk really had nothing to do with Kill Em All. Corwin81 11-27-2003, 07:01 AM yeah, KEA and some of RTL was Megatallideth. Hammett and Friedman should try to do a side project, but have doubts they'd be able to match James and Dave. I've been listening to old bootlegs with Cliff on them and his use of the Big Muff/Morley in Seek, Ktulu, and FWTBT is starting to have an infulence that might change the way I play some of my band's songs(even though we're modern, bordering on pop rock). And I'm currently learning Anesthesia bit by bit(well, I've been learning bit by bit for the past couple years off and on. now that I have a metronome, I can start slow and build up speed). appler 11-27-2003, 07:57 PM Les Claypool! lol him playing Master of Puppets at Woodstock was amazing. I spent all night learning it after hearing a recording. :D I remember Les recalling going to high school with Kirk Hammett. He said Kirk would be sitting there in class with his coke-bottle glasses and out of nowhere making chord motions with his hands and going (burnout dude voice) "G chord, man. We're gonna be huge one day." ;) tommiaho 11-28-2003, 12:11 AM It's Rob. :bassist: Darren R 11-28-2003, 03:54 PM Cliff for me. Inspiration:bassist: |