Hunter of A.F.I. definately.

Flea!!!(Chili Peppers) Hes good isnt he (sarcasm)(sp?) DEE DEE RAMONE!!! He died on my 13th b-day...sweet 13. :( He was my fav. punk bassist at the time.... :( just give me a sec. :( :( OK im over it.. :rolleyes:

As some of you have mentioned the "punk" is kinda a funny term to generalize a genre of music. I say a punk song is fast, loud, makes you want to move, and is not in the Billboard Top 100 singles chart.

Paul Simonon (Clash). Maybe not at technically gifted as the people he influenced but when you hear "London's Burning" (anyone have that bass tab by the way), "Career Opportunities," and "Capital Radio" you can't help but think of Matt Freeman (Rancid). Wish he'd get a better bass and equip set up...I don't know. I've been turned on to Eric Wilson (Sublime, Long Beach Dub Allstars) of late. I mean, holy crap! Listen to "Saw Red." And I think Tony Kanal's (No Doubt) solo in "Oi to the World" is great.

Yeah my faves are Mat Freeman of Rancid, Ian from New Found Glory, Craig from Sick of it All, Fat Mike from NOFX and Karl from Descendents.

Yeah my faves are Mat Freeman of Rancid, Ian from New Found Glory, Craig from Sick of it All, Fat Mike from NOFX and Karl from Descendents.

Also in case you didnt know, but I'm sure you do, that Oi to the World was originally done by the Vandals.

I know most of u guys probably dont listen to punk at all...but for those of u who do, who would u say are the best punk bassists?

personally i think matt freeman from rancid and roger from less than jake (i know ... there ska) and chris #2 from anti-flag...Hunter from AFI is pretty awsome too..

but yea, what about ur thoughts?

I dont listen to punk but when i did listen to Rancid a few times i did like their bassist.

Originally posted by Figjam
I dont listen to punk but when i did listen to Rancid a few times i did like their bassist.

Yea, that guy's badass.

Matt Freeman is his name, I believe. I'm not big on punk, but what I've heard is from them cool.

The name is slipping my mind, but the guy from the Descendents is about as good as gets. Another good one is Joe Rapossa from RKL, and the guy from Pulley is very good too. Matt from Rancid was really good in the first 3 albums, but his stuff isn't quite as good as it once was.

I don't listen to punk that much anymore but my vote goes to Hunter of AFI. He's a total babe.

Matt Freeman, by far. He overdoes it sometimes though. LTJ bassist is good, but ska sucks :p . Honourable (that's right, I'm Canadian) mention goes to chris #2 of A-F, and fat mike of nofx.

Joe Lally from Fugazi and Matt Freeman are all the punk i need to listen

Peter Mcferrin

yeah, i like rancid too, all you gotta hear is maxwell murders, that song did it for me!
Charlie

Originally posted by Halftooth
The name is slipping my mind, but the guy from the Descendents is about as good as gets.

Tony Lombardo. The bassline for Myage is dope!

Almost forgot..

Originally posted by SMASH
1. This thread has been done many times.

Originally posted by Halftooth
The name is slipping my mind, but the guy from the Descendents is about as good as gets.
Karl Alvarez! He's the bomb.
But, IMO, any discussion of "punk" bass has to begin and end with Mike Watt.

I thought it was Tony Lombardo?

Originally posted by Airsick Pilot
I thought it was Tony Lombardo?
He was the original Descendents bassist, and he was, indeed, awesome. Karl replaced him late in the game. I believe it was on their last album before they morphed into ALL. Karl played on "Everything Sucks", except for one track by Tony. And there's a new Descendents album due out soon. So, we're both right. :)

Ahhh Karl Alvarez is their "new" bassist. I haven't listen to them since the breakup.

Originally posted by Airsick Pilot
Ahhh Karl Alvarez is their "new" bassist. I haven't listen to them since the breakup.
Oh, man. You gotta get "Everything Sucks". What an awesome CD. It sounds more like ALL with Milo singing than it does early Descendents, but it totally kicks ass.

-Tony Lombardo, the Descendents (said a million times, but hey)
-Joe Lally, Fugazi
-Kim Coletta, Jawbox
-Fred Erskine, Hoover, June of '44
-Dave Allen-Gang of Four (sorta punk)
-MIKE WATT-The Minutemen
-Fred Smith-Television
-Tina Weymouth-Talking Heads (were punk at one time)
-Kira Roessler-Black Flag

With regards to LTJ Roger....when I saw them live, he screwed up so many times it wasn't even funny (see songs like Last One Out Of Liberty City, Johnny Quest.)

But Matt Freeman, Karl Alvarez, Joe from Rise Against/88 Fingers Louie, Fat Mike and although not strictly "punk", the bassist from Coheed And Cambria has some pretty sweeeeet lines.

Originally posted by Dave Siff
But, IMO, any discussion of "punk" bass has to begin and end with Mike Watt.

I agree 100%! Thanks for turning me on to Watt, Dave.:)

Originally posted by embellisher
I agree 100%! Thanks for turning me on to Watt, Dave.:)
My pleasure, sir! :)

Originally posted by Mr. Zebraface
Fat Mike
Good call!

WATT!!!!

Brian Baker of Minor Threat, Dag Nasty, and Bad Religion (not anymore)

Originally posted by Dave Siff
Oh, man. You gotta get "Everything Sucks". What an awesome CD. It sounds more like ALL with Milo singing than it does early Descendents, but it totally kicks ass.

Sweet. I'll be heading down to Borders in a week or so to get a few cds, I'll pick that one up as well. Thanks for the heads up!

HANDS DOWN. LAG WAGON bassist. I mean, this guy is craaaaaaazy, he plays faster than a machine gun shoots, he (unlike many other punk bassists and guitarists) knows chords and scales and modes. And he taps like a crazy madman with 5 arms.....he also kinda looks like Phil Lesh from the grateful Dead...

Originally posted by Rakshasa
HANDS DOWN. LAG WAGON bassist. I mean, this guy is craaaaaaazy, he plays faster than a machine gun shoots, he (unlike many other punk bassists and guitarists) knows chords and scales and modes. And he taps like a crazy madman with 5 arms.....he also kinda looks like Phil Lesh from the grateful Dead...

Yes, Jesse from Lagwagon is very good, and he actually knows music theory! We talked bass at the Good Riddence show, and he's defintley knowledgable. One thing that I like about him is that he plays fast and without a pick! I wasn't aware of any tapping though. I've probobly seen them no kidding 15-20 times and I've never seen him tap, but he could do it on the records though.

matt freeman from rancid and ken casey from dropkick murphys

But, IMO, any discussion of "punk" bass has to begin and end with Mike Watt.


You said it, my friend. Anyone out there not familar with Mr Watt's early work with the Minutemen should run right out and get a copy of "Double Nickles on the Dime" and "What makes a Man Start Fires?

And lets not forget fellow SST alum - Chris Kirkwood of the Meat Puppets.

cigar (recommended too)
www.cigartheband.com/

satanic surfers
www.badtasterecords.se/satanic/

oversight (recommended very much)
http://www.oversightdays.net/main.html

anti-flag
www.anti-flag.com

rancid
www.rancidrancid.com

88 finger louie
doesn't exist anymore.

choke
http://www.smallmanrecords.com/choke.asp
(that band invent his own style mixing jazz punk emo)

all their bass players are pretty good

all site have music samples so go and listen to them even if you don't like punk rock because they are not just good punk bass players they are awesome bass players.

Im a huge Punk fan, and I would have to say that the best punk bassist out there has got to be Mike Dirnt of greenday.:bassist:

Jah Wobble of PiL. Just listen to "The Metal Box".

Case closed

Hunter of AFI pretty much is lame...his lines are like 2% technical...

Originally posted by Halftooth
Yes, Jesse from Lagwagon is very good, and he actually knows music theory! We talked bass at the Good Riddence show, and he's defintley knowledgable. One thing that I like about him is that he plays fast and without a pick! I wasn't aware of any tapping though. I've probobly seen them no kidding 15-20 times and I've never seen him tap, but he could do it on the records though.
Great band, one of my favorites. Jesse is definitely underrated.

Anyone heard of Paul Simonon of the Clash? Gets my vote.

What is punk these days anyway?

/Braksvenne

Originally posted by SMASH
1. This thread has been done many times.

2. There's probably no one in punk that can cover the diversity of styles and chops that Daryl Jenifer of Bad Brains does. That, and the historical significance for the genre of his band, makes him the clear #1.

I'll watch this till it's become bothersome and close it.... but what the hay, it's a new year.

Daryl is a monster and an important influence on me... but I never thought of Bad Brains as a 'Punk' band.

Watt is the man in my eyes... great guy, great player.

in the 80's underground movement... Watt, Daryl and Mike Mills are near the tops too me.

joe raposo of rich kids on lsd, or chris from anti-flag. most ska-punk bassist are good too.

I'm surpirsed no one mentioned Bruce Foxton originally of the jam and later of SLF. SLF's originaly bassist Ali McMordie was good to. Although they play upright, Kim Nekroman (Nekromantix) and Rob Peltier (the quakes, irving klaws, tiger army) still rock some sick punky lines

Originally posted by Mark Jacobs
Jah Wobble of PiL. Just listen to "The Metal Box".

Case closed

He is awesome.

Fat Mike, Mike Watt, Whoever plays with The Vandals right now (Joe Escalente?), Glen Matlock.

Originally posted by SuperSluggard
Brian Baker of Minor Threat, Dag Nasty, and Bad Religion (not anymore)

Not sure about Minor Threat and Dag Nasty but Baker never played bass for Bad Religion. That would be Jay Bentley.

Originally posted by Malcom
-Tony Lombardo, the Descendents (said a million times, but hey)
-Joe Lally, Fugazi
-Kim Coletta, Jawbox
-Fred Erskine, Hoover, June of '44
-Dave Allen-Gang of Four (sorta punk)
-MIKE WATT-The Minutemen
-Fred Smith-Television
-Tina Weymouth-Talking Heads (were punk at one time)
-Kira Roessler-Black Flag

what he said...but with frickin' JOHN DOE of X at the very tippy top....well after Watt at least(!)

shakes head in disbelief.....


Dee Dee y'all. Dee Dee. DEE DEE. DEE DEE.

The definition of punk bass. Everything else is overplayed cr@p.

End of story.

:bassist: :p :bassist:

i don't know a lot about punk bassists. Matt Freeman and the guy in Nofx come to mind. But i think they play with picks, which i don't like. If the guy in Rancid played how he does using his fingers i'd give him much more props. But i'm just biased against pick players personally.

My vote goes to Matt Wong(Reel big fish)....well he doesen't reely play punk.......he plays more ska-punk!
Oh yaeh I forgot Joe Gliterman(The Mighty Mighty Bosstones)!

Originally posted by After Forever
But i'm just biased against pick players personally.

Why? Did a picker pick on you?

Naw. I understand it's just a different way of playing a bass. But for me i think pick's are for guitars, if your going to play bass with a pick you might as well just play a guitar. What i alaways found the most enjoyable thing about bass is the way the fingers and hands work together and coordinate, it just looks, and sounds better. Playing with a pick just looks rather silly.

Originally posted by Drew Gutrath
Not sure about Minor Threat and Dag Nasty but Baker never played bass for Bad Religion. That would be Jay Bentley.



It looks as though he does (or did) play guitar in Bad Religion. And I thought he played guitar in Dag Nasty as well. He DID play bass in Minor Threat although I personally was never impressed with his root-note style bassplaying.
from bad religion home page (http://www.badreligion.com/badreligion/bandhis/bandhis.jsp)

Originally posted by Malcom
-Tony Lombardo, the Descendents (said a million times, but hey)
-Joe Lally, Fugazi
-Kim Coletta, Jawbox
-Fred Erskine, Hoover, June of '44
-Dave Allen-Gang of Four (sorta punk)
-MIKE WATT-The Minutemen
-Fred Smith-Television
-Tina Weymouth-Talking Heads (were punk at one time)
-Kira Roessler-Black Flag


I would say that plus Daryl from Bad Brains just about covers it.

what he said...but with frickin' JOHN DOE of X at the very tippy top....well after Watt at least(!)

I can never HEAR John Doe's playing. I like his singing voice though.



I would say that plus Daryl from Bad Brains just about covers it.

I've never listened to Bad Brains :(

And I'm thinking I've fogotten Chuck Dukowski (good propulsive lines, and 'TV Party') and the lad from Q and Not U's first album (is that punk?).

bad brains rules :)

and the lad from Q and Not U's first album (is that punk?). [/B]

Who knows? I was kind of thinking the same thing when you mentioned Fred from June of 44 and Hoover - great bassist, great bands but punk? I don't know.
I mean at this point; punk, whatever it is, has been around for like 3 decades. So many people have gotten involved and brought in their own ideas, interpretations, and influences and so many others who've been involved for a long time have branched out and tried new things that I don't think there really is a working definition of punk anymore. Or at least it seems like the line between punk and some other genre (metal, reggae, ska, whatever) or sub-genre (indie rock, math rock, screamo murdercore grind or whatever) is depends on who you're talking to and where they're at in life.
Either way, Q & not U are a good band though


And the guy who's name is Bad Brains likes Bad Brains? Go figure.

Paul Simonon - The Clash

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1293652

Joe Raposo from RKL.
Listen to one of my favorite basslines played by Joe Raposo:
http://www.lagwagon.com/realaudio/

Mike Dirnt from Green Day. I think hes one of the best bassists around. He has the ability to put some jazz riffs in some of their songs. Yeah, Matt Freeman is really good too.

Gotta love Roger from LTJ and Fat Mike from NOFX for playing damn good bass and excellent vocals (lead vocals even).

I don't think anyone's the best of anything, but in punk I like:

Bren from The Lawrence Arms
Patrick from Dillinger Four
Jason from Hot Water Music
Chris from Anti-Flag


As well as the mainstay favorites like Matt Freeman, Paul Simonon, etc.

jean jaques burnel
from the stranglers ,British punk's true bass king:bassist:

Originally posted by sub forum
jean jaques burnel
from the stranglers ,British punk's true bass king:bassist:


I was getting ready to rip you guys for not mentioning JJ Burnel. Subforum saved your pathetic carcasses!

Well I dont if everyone considered the Misfits as punk but I did and I liked Jerry Only..Pretty simple but to the point!!! I also think the dude from Rancid kicks some booty:D

Originally posted by Moe84
Well I dont if everyone considered the Misfits as punk but I did and I liked Jerry Only..Pretty simple but to the point!!!


Que,,? Punk as heck no doubt. Too bad Doyle and Only are such MAJOR WUSS's!! Sorry...they played my home town and refused to carry any of their own gear prefferring to _pump iron_ in the club while the bar stuff struggled with it all....sheesh. Think he even has his own brand of strings too.
Any Misfits fan owes it to themselves to check out the very early "Static age" demo; when Glenn still sounded like Elvis.
Total meatheads that lot. Hilarious.

Mad I totally understand I never went to see em, but always loved Glenns voice and the intentsity of the music..The whole band was a bundle of freakin issues!!!!!!lol...Glenn is a wierd duck himself lol..after Glenn left and went to form Danzig I give up on The Misfits.....that and they did a stint in UNPROFEESIONAL WRASSLING WTF:spit:

Locally we have a fellah by the name of Rob Nesbitt who once (maybe twice even) performed in his Misfits cover band, himself as Danzig. He being the fresh faced dude that he is was able to nail that early Glenn sound easily. So fun to see him play. When the "real"(??) thing played in Van the singer being the apparent criminal that he is was unable to cross the border. Part way through a set with Doyle and Only singing, Rob took the initiativ and went up to the mic. Sure 'nuff, he knew every word and stayed up there the rest of the eve. Kinda sweet....still a bunch of goombah's tho'.
JJ Burnel...big influence for me as well.

Jason Thirsk - Pennywise
Fat Mike - NOFX (Especially on "The Decline")
Matt Riddle - No Use For A Name (Fingerstyle but still very fast as well)
Chuck Platt - Good Riddance
Chris Aiken - Strung Out
Lex Feltham - Frenzal Rhomb

hehe i thought i was the only one here who liked string out.

I don't really know any good punk bassists honestly, no punk band really puts any attention on the bass player, they all pretty much do the same thing.

- Any of the Guys who played in the Descendents
- Jerry Only from the Misfits
- Chris #2 from Anti-Flag
and Matt Freeman from Rancid

I've always enjoyed Mike Dirnt's playing. Like I said about KISS over in the Gene SImmons thread, when I listen to a Green Day tune, I always find myself humming along to the bassline. GREAT tone, too!

I was relieved to see that no one picked Sid Vicious! When most people I know think of punk bassists they think of Sid. He helped further the image of the punk bass player but contributed absolutley NOTHING to the genre musically. Half the time, he was screwing up so bad on stage that they didn't even have his amp turned on; and of course eveyone knows that Sid wasn't even in the band when the Pistols recorded their album.

Well there is a reason why no one mentioned him: he's not a good bassist, as you said. :) The only reason he's famous is because of his attitude more than anything else.

sorry i didnt get to read page 2 and 3 but.

Matt Freeman - rancid
Mike Herrera - mxpx
Fat Mike - nofx
The guy from Pulley
The guy from Bouncing Souls

those are 5 that stick out in my mind. I chose Mike Herrera mostly because of Chick Magnet, even though i learned most of the song in my first month of playing. Simple as it is, i still love hearing it over and over. I'd explain the other 4 a little more but my GF is going to beat me if i dont get off this computer.

I thought Pete and Paul from Crimpshrine were the about the hottest bassists I've heard. Cuz' when I didn't want to hear Jeff Ott screaming horribly I could pay attention to whatever those guys were hiding in their hightops.

Hey After Forever -
I just thought I should mention that I saw Rancid at Warped Tour over the summer, and Matt Freeman is definitely capable of playing all of his lines without a pick. He switched between fingerstyle and picking pretty often (including fingers for most of the Maxwell Murderer solo), and it didn't slow him down at all. I just can't figure out why he even bothered to use both techniques? :confused:

My vote would be for
Paddy from Dillinger four
Daryll from bad brains
jason from hotwater music
John from propaganghi
Oh yeah for all you descendants fans there coming out with a new album.
http://www.descendentsonline.com

Put one more vote down for Mike Herrera. His style is flawless and creative.

"jason from hotwater music"


i forgot to meantion him. I love the bass in alright for now. Another band i forgot to meantion would be vendetta red. Definately not the best bassist but a damn good sounding first album and potential might get him talked about in the future.

Been listening to the Clash lately, and Paul Simonon has a great feel for playing it just right, plus the Reggae background...

Bruce Foxton and Paul Simonon

I can't believe you guys made halfway through page two without mentioning Paul Simonon.

Combat Rock and the second half of London Calling has some really great stuff. Hell, all of Calling does.

Another band i forgot to mention would be vendetta red. Definately not the best bassist but a damn good sounding first album and potential might get him talked about in the future.

Vendetta Red...I hate them. They think talking about having AIDS and the SARS virus is somehow funny. :hmm: Their bassist also has a really wierd style when I saw him live, using a pick but just looking like he was strumming once every couple of seconds even in all the fast parts of the songs.

Damn, how could I also forget Jason from HWM. Very tasteful, nice lines and fingerstyle as well. Also Joe Prinicpale from 88 Fingers Louie/Rise Against, awesome bassist (for a punk band) and great grindy tone.

I cant wait to see rise against this year.


And i'll agree with you about some vendetta red lyrics being a little wierd or just plain dumb. I like how the bass sounds on opiate summer and ps love the black and thats pretty much why i meantioned them.

One I did forget to mention and Was Tommy Stinson of The Replacements..I really like him and always loved the Replacements Music...Although they kinda went more the Alternative way On pleased to Meet Me and Tim And so on. but on the first few they were intence......

jaco

shakes head in disbelief.....


Dee Dee y'all. Dee Dee. DEE DEE. DEE DEE.

The definition of punk bass. Everything else is overplayed cr@p.

End of story.

:bassist: :p :bassist:


Ditto!!! I can't believe only one other person named Dee Dee Ramone.

The dood from Suicide Machines.. :bassist:


(Destruction, Battle Hyms, etc - the later CD sucked)

[QUOTE=Halftooth]The name is slipping my mind, but the guy from the Descendents is about as good as gets. [QUOTE]

Absolutely. Every punk bassist worth his salt has taken a page from the Descendants, usually Tony Lombardo's work.

if they haven't they are missing something. IMHO he reached greatness on the Milo Goes to College album.

The original bassist was Tony Lombardo, a punk bass god.

The next one was Karl Alvarez, also great

Does anyone remember a Chicago band called Life Sentence? The bass player, Joe, kicked all the a$$. Still leaves a good impression almost 20 years down the line. I throw that cassette in and I'm still refreshed by that playing.

Mike Watt....

I'll probably get flamed like people tend to at Mx for mentioning this guy, but in my limited knowledge of Punk Bassists I'd say Matt freeman :eek:

Other than him, Paul Simonin from the Clash. Oh and Sid Vicous :rolleyes:!

Andy

yeah, i like rancid too, all you gotta hear is maxwell murders, that song did it for me!
Charlie

The solo from "Axiom" is better. You should check it out.

WATT!!

Mike Dirnt Green Day

Matt Freeman of Rancid, Hunter of AFI, and Ryan Rude of Working Class Jack.

Oh, and Matt Wong of Reel Big Fish if Ska/punk counts.

i cant believe this thread could be this long without a mention of the BUZZCOCKS!...where is diggle?? come on guys get it together.

Listen to "I Believe" for great poppy punk bass!

For me, the best punk bassists are:

Hunter - AFI
Randy Bradbury - Pennywise
Jay Bentley - Bad Religion
Mike Herrera - MxPx, Arthur, Cootees
Steve Zing - Son Of Sam
Chris #2 - Anti-Flag
Krist Noveselic - Nirvana (they were punk, NOT grunge)
Glenn Matlock - Sex Pistols

Mike Watt and the guy from Catch 22

erm...i think that we should stick to british bands 77 to 79 when we refer to the term "Punk" ...its not just thrashing with attitude ...its also a special moment in place and time which can never be recreated. Prehaps derivitive movements could now be refered to as "Post Punk". :smug:

Al Pike.
And the guy from the Circle Jerks.

well lets talk about the Stooges....what about the Velvets ...they all showed the way......youre grabbing at straws...of course there was other stuff going on...but Punk as such happened somewhere else.

who cares

spoken like a true punk ;)

I like DEE DEE and NO ONE even mentioned Klaus Flouride of the DEAD KENNEDYS the greatest punk band ever!!!!! :spit:

erm...i think that we should stick to british bands 77 to 79 when we refer to the term "Punk" ...its not just thrashing with attitude ...its also a special moment in place and time which can never be recreated. Prehaps derivitive movements could now be refered to as "Post Punk". :smug:

Punk is what you want it to be. The pop-punk of today isn't really "punk" to me, but it fills the same role Minor Threat, The Circle Jerks and the Dead Kennedys did when I was a kid. If "punk" is just the British scene of 77-79 does that preclude the Ramones or the Germs, or even the Stooges for that matter? Or are they Pre-Post-Punk?

Sub-genre classification is so boring :rolleyes:

And the guy from the Circle Jerks.

Both Roger Rogerson and Zander Schloss were/are great bass players. (I don't know if Roger's still playing, but I just saw the Jerks a few months ago and Zander's with 'em.)

Punk is what you want it to be. The pop-punk of today isn't really "punk" to me, but it fills the same role Minor Threat, The Circle Jerks and the Dead Kennedys did when I was a kid. If "punk" is just the British scene of 77-79 does that preclude the Ramones or the Germs, or even the Stooges for that matter? Or are they Pre-Post-Punk?

Sub-genre classification is so boring :rolleyes:


Ouch your hurting my head!!!!!! :D Germs rule!! so bad theyre good! :smug:

Ouch your hurting my head!!!!!! :D Germs rule!! so bad theyre good! :smug:

The best part about Lorna was that even though she flubbed through a lot of that, you knew what she was attempting to play. "Let's Pretend" is a killer bass line, "Richie Dagger..." "Land of Treason" (ever hear Die Kreuzen's cover of that?) Yahhh! :D

i think in hindsite that it would only be fair to refer to the Stooges ect as pre punk! ;) I love to pigeonhole

I probably already posted earlier here, but I can't find my post, so I might as well post again.


Richard Hell, that guy...was the coolest guy..

Not only was he the coolest damn person in all of wherever,
But some of his basslines were actually skillfull.

that, and that he is the man who did or didn't invent punk.

Yes someone that actually knows who Richard Hell is.
He's one of my favorite bass players and my personal idol.
I wish someone would tab out his songs (Hint hint...) :)

Mike Dirnt from Green Day, and Matt Freeman from Rancid.

uggghhhhhh....okay.....firt off paul simionion(or how ever you spell it) was the bass player of the clash. second the clash(even though they are one of my favorite bands) wern't really punk,their first album was, but after that they were one of a kind...they can't really be labeled as one kind of music.("the clash arn't just a band....their a religion"). Then we get on to the subject of....WHAT THE HELL ARE ALL OF YOU THINKING?!???!!(sorry....about that...)i undrerstand why you choose the other people you chose,but you all completly looked over one of the best and most influntal punk bass players of all time...Klouse Floride from dead kennedys....please just say you forgot...just please...and if you haven't heard of dead kennedys look them up....i love them....."california uber alleys, uber alleys california..."

Recently I got a copy of the Dead Kennedys live at the On Broadway 1984 and have been floored by the mighty Klaus Flouride! His bass lines are so ripping and melodic. I've heard the DKs before but never really got into them. Big mistake because their songs are sooo good. Very original and inventive and the stuff doesnt' sound dated at all. I love it when I find a great bassist that makes me want to get back in that woodshed!! :bassist:

deffinetly not sid vicious, ill tell you that much

I am. :rolleyes:

MIKE WATT!

Lemmy

KLAUS FLOURIDE

Chuck Dukowski

Brian Baker

What no one else, maybe this helps

MIKE WATT!=MIKE WATT!!!

Lemmy=MOTORHEAD

KLAUS FLOURIDE=Dead Kennedys

Chuck Dukowski=Black Flag

Brian Baker=Minor Threat

I also dig:

Darryl Jenifer=Bad Brains

Dan Lilker=S.O.D.

Matt Freeman=Rancid

Rob Wright=NoMeansNo

:scowl: :hyper: :scowl: :hyper: :scowl: :hyper::scowl:

well first of all the rancid bass player is excellent! and mike dirnt also has some really great lines but also uses a wicked sound!
if you wanna hear a hot new bass player the rufio bass player has some great parts and they go really well with the songs, but hey thats just my opinion!
thers a lot of bass talent in punk music which people tend to ignore just because its punk really!

What about guy from New model army? I've heard him on "Rest for the wicked" album and bass lines was awesome. He played with a pick I supose. I don't know if NMA is punk, but they sounded punk on that album

my favourite is Paul Simonon from The Clash.. I like the fact that his lines never quite do 'normal' rock bass type things... it's almost like the bass is being played by a really creative person who nevertheless isn't actually a musician (does that make sense?!) and as a result, comes up with stuff i'd never have considered

my favourite is Paul Simonon from The Clash.. I like the fact that his lines never quite do 'normal' rock bass type things... it's almost like the bass is being played by a really creative person who nevertheless isn't actually a musician (does that make sense?!) and as a result, comes up with stuff i'd never have considered


Paul couldn't play bass when he was picked by Joe Strummer and Mick Jones. They actually had him try out as a singer because he looked good. Mick taught him a fair bit of the early stuff but I do agree that he does some very interesting things. Leaving space where other wouldn't. London Calling is one of those classic albums. Sounds a bit tame now but still great stuff with some great R R/punk bass playing. "The Clash - Return of the Last gang in Town" is a great book on the history of the band.

NOt a single one of you mentioned Joe Lally?????????? Come on.....If you are talking about punk music, and bass players Joe Lally's name HAS to be mentioned. He is definately up there.

Flea used to be a PUNK bassist, but is now totally FUNK. (Some people just read this wrong.) He is really only an average PUNK bassist.
Freeman is the best punk bassist on earth. From Op Ivy to Rancid, he's the shiznit.
Don't laugh too much, but Mike Dirnt from Green Day is pretty good too (Ouch! Don't hit me)
Randy Bradbury from Pennywise is sweet too.

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I was waiting for someone to mention Mike Dirnt. BTW, Flea is DEFINATELY funk... If you're not sure, go WAY back to their CD "Mother's Milk" & listen to thier rendition of "Higher Ground"... Once you have, you'll realize he's been Funk since day one.

I was waiting for someone to mention Mike Dirnt. BTW, Flea is DEFINATELY funk... If you're not sure, go WAY back to their CD "Mother's Milk" & listen to thier rendition of "Higher Ground"... Once you have, you'll realize he's been Funk since day one.


Flea was punk at one time though, and he can still hear it in some riffs. Check out the band Fear, flea played for them back in the day.

also Matt from rancid. first time i heard "if the kids were united" it blew my mind what people could do with a pick. :cool:

Klaus Flouride has my vote.

Dead Kennedys also have my vote for best punk band. Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables is my only punk desert island disk.

ME!


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At like a million notes a minute. :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: ... I'll leave now.

there is'nt one ? am I correct? sorry I just had to,Its so hard to measure one against another in any music type,especially punk music :help:

I'm happy to see Klaus Fluoride get some love. Great bassist. I'm surprised not more people mentioned him.

Otherwise, I'm pretty much a general bandwagoner. Even though Rancid's music can be hit or miss with me, Matt's a great bass player.

ummmm no Karl Alvarez!!? DESCENDENTS and ALL!!!? Cmon!

Wow, 3 and a half pages of Matt Freeman worship. Every time bass players discuss who is the best punker, he gets mentioned almost exclusively. I'm really tired of hearing about him. Except for "Maxwell Murder" (the most overrated punk song EVER) he never impressed me.

To debate the best punk bassist, you would have to define "punk" and that's impossible to do. There have been about a dozen different styles and sounds that have been associated with punk and none of them have much to do with each other. Defining "punk" is a worthless exercise that should be practiced by bored teenagers and writers of Spin Magazine alone.

Having said that, I would give props to Krist Novoselic (yeah, it's punk) and Dee Dee Ramone. Dee Dee wasn't a very good player from a technical standpoint, but he INVENTED PUNK ROCK MUSIC, so that should count for something.

Matt Freeman is definately talented and has a distinct tone, but I wouldn't call him the best. A lot of times it just seems like he's stuffing too many notes into too small a space, like he's afraid then song will self-destruct before he has his moment. Very few of his basslines stick with me, they're all in a flurry.

My love, instead, goes out to ALL(no pun intended) the Descendents Bassists: Tony Lombardo, Doug Carrion, and Karl Alvarez. All of whom crafted classic, catchy lines that are as memorable as they are energetic.

Also, I think Rob Wright and NomeansNo and the Hanson Brothers are worth checking out, especially for Freeman fans. Rob is, in many ways, punk rock's Les Claypool.


Also, for the new skool kids: Dan Maier's style combines Paul Chambers with Paul Simonon:The Plot to Blow Up the Eiffel Tower, www.blowuptheeiffeltower.com

And although their recordings are a little muddy, Donna Dresch of Team Dresch.

I feel like you should be able to play Matt Freeman's lines, but you should play like you were Tony Lombardo or Dee Dee Ramone.

My love, instead, goes out to ALL(no pun intended) the Descendents Bassists: Tony Lombardo, Doug Carrion, and Karl Alvarez. All of whom crafted classic, catchy lines that are as memorable as they are energetic.


yes....thank you.

i was honored to play with Karl and the rest of ALL even Tony Lombardo the past two years in a 3 day festival with all (haha) their fans that are in bands. We were one of the few that were asked to come back twice. All(again)the guys from the band are standup. Hell even Bill brought us to the Blasting room and spent hours talking about recording to us and kept making us his famous coffee. Gret time.

Mike Dirnt from Green Day is by far my favourite. Matt Freeman from Rancid is also amazing IMO.

~Graeme

joe lally

Thank you Kazuhank

wow, talk about ancient thread resurrection, this one even had biski in it :hyper:

Great job moonbagel91 digging up this relic.

I saw the title and instantly thought that it would be about Green Day and modern top 40 .. er ... um ... "punk" bands.

Then I open it up and see all the love for JJ Burnel one of my most revered bass heroes (pun intended).

Gotta love talkbass.

Green Day's bassist is really good. Why ouch? They are a good band.

I agree, Mike is a great bassist, and I love Green Day. I can't wait 'til their new CD comes out. I also dig Matt Freeman.

~Graeme

Besides the aforementioned Matt Freeman,

My votes go to:

Joe Lally - (Fugazi)
Jason Black - (Hot Water Music)
Karl Alvarez - (All/Descendents)

hmmmm. best punk bassist. rancid? green day? nofx? less than jake? chili peppers?! the police?!? c'mon people! these are pop stars! what the heck is going on here?? Mike Watt has to be the punk god. listen to the minutemen. that p-bass was THE driving force of the band. (gotta love George and D. Boon (god rest his soul) also). gotta love black flag too,but mike put chuck dukowski AND kira to shame. Klause Flouride is up there. "punk is dead" Crass 1978

:D Yup, I would have to say the bassest from Pennywise. For the life of me I can't remember his name? What the hell? Oh well, Rancid also has a good bassest, but I would have to say, over all Pennywise :bassist: .

Randi

:D Yup, I would have to say the bassest from Pennywise. For the life of me I can't remember his name? What the hell? Oh well, Rancid also has a good bassest, but I would have to say, over all Pennywise :bassist: .

Randi

His name's Randy but I don't listen to them a lot. My favorite songs by Pennywise are Victim of Reality and Perfect People.

Though I'm not into punk, no one mentioned Anti-Flag's bassist ( I think ), and a bassist fellow like him.

Why is a this allowed but a ska thread similar to this was closed? I like to hear about other's favorite bassists.

Many ska bassists are talented, and I believe there's no reason it should have been closed. Sure if a bunch of threads about the same thing are started then they should be shut down but what is wrong with one?

...okay, I didn't read every post. Did notice some obvious themes, though.

Anyway, I just picked up a Bass mag(the one published in the UK) that talks about the "50 Best Punk Basslines" or something to that effect.
Granted, I'm no authority on Punk...I bought this magazine because of the sample transcriptions within their "50 Best Punk Basslines". One in particular caught my eye-
It's by Japan(I had never heard of them); I tried singing the line in my head as I stood in Barnes/Noble...to say the least, the figure was pretty damn convoluted. I noticed it was a Mick Karn's line(now it made sense).
Anyway, some good stuff; the guy in Ian Dury's band sounds like he has it together, too.
Ditto for Gang Of Four.

And I went to Amazon's UK site to pick up some of these albums. Cool stuff.

BTW, if I had this kinda magazine as a resource back in '72...I might have been a decent player today.

Id have to go with Karl Alvarez from DESCENDENTS/ALL, Paul Simonon from the Clash, Glen Matlock from the Sex Pistols and Tony James from Generation X

Why is a this allowed but a ska thread similar to this was closed? I like to hear about other's favorite bassists.

Many ska bassists are talented, and I believe there's no reason it should have been closed. Sure if a bunch of threads about the same thing are started then they should be shut down but what is wrong with one?

the guy from the Pietasters rocks. saw him dive off the stage to tackle someone in the crowd giving him and the rest of the band crap.

I would have to say my fav Punk bassist is
Pete Farnden from the Pretenders. the first two Pretenders albums were as punk as punk gets.you talkin' about that zany bass line on "back to ohio"? thats punk to you? rush limbaugh uses that song to cue himself on everyday, for crying out loud,lol. :spit:

I cant remember what his name is but in my opinion the best punk basist is the dude from blink 182

That would definately have to be Klause Flouride of the Dead Kennedy's. :bassist:

It's all about Klaus for me...and STILL playing that raged, beat up Jazz Bass....way cool. He's the man!!!
http://www.deadkennedys.com/images/pictures/recent/73b.jpg

John Peel must be the first part of this thread because if any non-Brits don't know was a great DJ, died sadly today.

Anyway, the reason i started this was because I am starting a punk revival band. I was just wondering what bassists are your favourite and who do you think is the best punk bassist. Apart from Bruce Foxton (The Jam) and Paul Simonon (The Clash) (who are my favourite ones) what other punk bassists would you recommend to listen too?
(i'm not talking about bassists with the classic punk sound not most of the new "Pop-punk-emo" stuff)

:bassist:
cheers

It's so sad about John Peel, the man helped so many bands throughout his career, he was/is a legend. RIP

Simonon is one of my favourites, along with Dee Dee and the Stiff Little Fingers bassist (can't remember the name) and for more modern stuff i'd go for Matt Freeman

whos this Matt Freeman guy? What band is he in? Its one of these names I've heard about but never knew who he is.

Btw does anyone listen to the Jam?

wow, never seen this topic before :p

As per personnal preference....

No one is more Punk and more Bass and more Kickin then our own Mike Watt

http://www.hootpage.com/watt04b.jpg

only dude holdin a candle to Watt is Darryl Jenifer
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Id have to say Sid vicious. Even though he may not have been that good, he had the image. Glen Matlock (The Sex Pistols bassist before Sid) is also pretty good. Listen to old Sex Pistol songs to hear him

whos this Matt Freeman guy? What band is he in? Its one of these names I've heard about but never knew who he is.

Btw does anyone listen to the Jam?

The dude in Rancid and Operation Ivy.

How about Klaus Flouride?

The dude in Rancid and Operation Ivy.

How about Klaus Flouride?


Klaus is great! DK is one of my favorite punk bands.

Also any of the guys who have played bass for the Descendents were good bass players, I can't think of any names off of the top of my head.

I second that :p

Chuck from Black Flag
Oh, I love that beginning to Six Pack.

Then there's Lorna Doone from the Germs. I like the idea behind those bass lines- not so much the execution of the idea...

What about Fat Mike from NOFX? He's pretty good.

Does "best" mean "most punk" or "best playing"...if you get too good then you're not punk enough :rollno:

Does "best" mean "most punk" or "best playing"...if you get too good then you're not punk enough :rollno:
:D

Me likes Klaus Flouride and Mike Watt.


Didn't Flea play in Fear?

I'm pretty sure there is another thread on this if you do a search.

It's so sad about John Peel, the man helped so many bands throughout his career, he was/is a legend. RIP

Simonon is one of my favourites, along with Dee Dee and the Stiff Little Fingers bassist (can't remember the name) and for more modern stuff i'd go for Matt Freeman

Another vote for Matt Freeman. I love his stuff :)

What about Fat Mike from NOFX? He's pretty good.

I second that motion!! Fat Mike isn't a virtuoso, but he can bust out some awesome lines (listen to Me First and the Gimme Gimmes for example). :bassist: :)

whos this Matt Freeman guy? What band is he in? Its one of these names I've heard about but never knew who he is.

Btw does anyone listen to the Jam?

I was a huge fan of Paul Weller / the Jam in the 80's. But I never really considered them a punk band.

Not sure how you'd catagorize Fugazi, but I consider Joe Lally one HECK of a bassist.

Does "best" mean "most punk" or "best playing"...if you get too good then you're not punk enough :rollno:

Yeah, and if you have too many fans you're a sellout. :smug:

were any of these punk bassists actual bassists, as in musicians? for one, i kno sid vicous wasn't that good at bass but he supposedly had the right image. however, are we talking about best punk image or musician? i dont really kno of many punk bassists that r actually good. i'm, not tryin to start an argument but im just stating an opinion.

maybe u guys can tell me about sum punk bassists to listen to cause i cant really find many good ones, aside from rancid's bassist and flea (if u consider him punk).

that guy who played w/ rancid was pretty good, or at least I was impressed by him long ago. I don't know names, though

were any of these punk bassists actual bassists, as in musicians? for one, i kno sid vicous wasn't that good at bass but he supposedly had the right image. however, are we talking about best punk image or musician? i dont really kno of many punk bassists that r actually good. i'm, not tryin to start an argument but im just stating an opinion.

maybe u guys can tell me about sum punk bassists to listen to cause i cant really find many good ones, aside from rancid's bassist and flea (if u consider him punk).

reread my first post, find and listen.

Hunter Burgan from AFI is very good, if you count hardcore-ish bands. Check out his stuff on Black Sails in the Sunset or The Art of Drowning for some great basslines. At a Glance and Total Immortal are a few good song examples. Jay Bentley from Bad Religion is also quite good. He was always good at supporting the band, but his playing on their latest albums (the Process of Belief, for one) is very cool. Check out Generator for an older BR, or Epiphany for a recent song. Both have great bass playing.

I like pudding and my hands smell like cheese

Topic is "Who's the Best" which equates to "Who do you like best" I will have no tolerance for people posting who they think sucks and will edit/delete at my whim...

Jennifer from the Brains is the best. Randy Bradbury (I think it's spelled right) from Pennywise is amazing. He doesn't get NEARLY the credit he deserves. He is not as flashy as Freeman, but his lines are very clean and hard to play. Later Joe

Watt is the man, anyone that can roll with Iggy and D. Boon back in the day is true blue.



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I know his group was faux punk at best, but I really loved Sting's playing on the earliest Police songs like "Roxanne."

For what it's worth, I also agree about Mike Watts from firehose and Daryl Jennifer from Bad Brains. They are nice bassists. I also like Mike Dirnt from Green Day too.

Dirnts got some chops, and he was a part of the east bay scene. Before anyone says Greenday were wimpy punks, they knew they were more melodic than most punk bands, and on ocassion admitted to not being "tough guys" like Rancid or any other east bay bands.

O, how did I forget Mike Dirnt? He rocks.....it's between him and Fat Mike I think.

O, how did I forget Mike Dirnt? He rocks.....it's between him and Fat Mike I think.

Mike Watt blows them BOTH out of the water!

I have actually listened to Rancid I just didn't know the name of the bassist. The album I've listened to the album with the bass solo at the start.

Ow yeah and the guy who likes the Jam their early stuff is a lttile punk, but I agree with you.

Didn't Flea play in Fear?Flea was in FEAR at one point.

"There's too many of us..."

http://www.sol-i.tv/Spit/images/SpitStix06.jpg

I forgot to mention current Bad Religion guitarist, former Minor Threat bassist- Brian Baker.

Matt Freeman's stuff with Op Ivy was pretty badass.. I like his rancid stuff, but that Op Ivy stuff is just fantastic. His breakneck fills on "Caution" are sick. The verses on "Soundsystem" bobbing along... killer stuff..

Ok, Mott the Hoople's bassist - Overend Watts, is in my fav punk bassist. Now the band came out and ended before punk arose, but they were as punk as you can get. They were also a huge inspiration to the clash and sexpistols and other early punk bands. If you listen to Mott then listen to the clash, its pretty obvious. Overend Watts had great tone , titanic attack and massively powerful lines. Oh yeah, he also played a much hated Gibson Thunderbird.

I really like Jerry Only of The Misfits' playing. His lines can be heavy, menacing, or poppy. I especially love his tone on the album "Static Age."

Truly a great man.

The dude from The Stranglers - JJ Burnel, and Lemmy played some pretty neat punk bass.

(edited to match the changes in the thread) ;)

I know the definition of "punk" can be very broad. In keeping with that, I like the playing of . . . . forgot his name (Bruce?) . . . the bass player for Elvis Costello and the Attractions. I really like his lines and his tone. Lipstick Vogue / You're Happy Now / I Write the Book all come to mind.

Bruce Foxton from the Jam, haven't really listened to Elvis Castello that much. You guys are funny, great argument

Mike Dirnt at the top of my list. just a personal thing. Then Matt Freeman, Roger from Less Than Jake (Kinda Punk-Ska-ish) Fat Mike, The guy from the Suicide Machienes, and many more.

Just thought I'd add Peter Hook of Joy Division and New Order to the list. Not sure if you'd define them as Punk, but he's worth checking out. :bassist:

Everyone's already said ones I like, so I'll blow some people's minds and mention ones no one's heard of.

-Warwick Gilbert from Radio Birdman has a great old-school rock groove; I think his style was what a lot of the punks were aspiring to, but they couldn't quite reach it so they tried a different approach.

-Dug E. Bird from Beefeater and Fidelity Jones; you won't know who they are unless you have Dischord's anniversary collection or were around D.C.'s hardcore scene in the 80's. But he was an incredibly talented player, sounds a good deal like Flea, though less flashy.

-The dual bassists from Black Eyes

-I've always felt Steve Diggle (from the Buzzcocks) is a very underrated artist.

My man Mark Hoppus, nt sure what he is considerd *punk wise* but he is amazing

Just thought I'd add Peter Hook of Joy Division and New Order to the list. Not sure if you'd define them as Punk, but he's worth checking out. :bassist:
Hooky!!! Melodic lead lines yowza!!!

The guys from Green Day and Rancid are good.

Also the guy who edited this is funny, are you a hippy?
If you are rock on

I know the definition of "punk" can be very broad. In keeping with that, I like the playing of . . . . forgot his name (Bruce?) . . . the bass player for Elvis Costello and the Attractions. I really like his lines and his tone. Lipstick Vogue / You're Happy Now / I Write the Book all come to mind.

Bruce Thomas. Awesome.

Now, for a name that has yet to be uttered:

Karl Alvarez from Descendent/ALL.

Get the CD "ALL" by Descendents, and prepare to be impressed.

The bass player from the long defunct Rich Kids on LSD (RKL) was/is good. These guys are probably the most like the bands the OP mentioned.

The first bass player ("andy flag") from anti-flag wrote some bass lines that were pretty unique for punk at the time. The new guy is good too.

The first few albums by satanic surfers had (a) totally kickass bass player(s), a few well written songs, more than just playing fast and singing "them and us" songs. A bunch of their later songs (except for the stuff off 'going nowhere fast'<best album) is kinda lame.

Matt Freeman(rancid/op ivy) would have to be up there when it comes to being fast and being a musician.

Fat Mike (nofx) is definitely a way better musician than he is a bass player but his riffs certainly suit and fill out their sound really well.

and last but not least! the guy from Frenzal Rhomb (coz he's from my home town). His musicianship/theory is up there too.

The bass player in the punk band that i'm in is the best technical musician out of all of us, he's the only guy whose eyes don't glaze over if I ask about key of song/part or talk about riffs in terms of notes and not fret/string positions.

If you get a chance, check out antiflag and satanic surfers.

Just heard Matt Freeman of rancid, he rocks too!

The bass player from the long defunct Rich Kids on LSD (RKL) was/is good. These guys are probably the most like the bands the OP mentioned.

Maybe it's got to do with the time I heard them, but you can't mention RKL without bringing up the Angry Samoans.

Dee Dee Ramone

Karl Alvarez from Descendent/ALL.

Get the CD "ALL" by Descendents, and prepare to be impressed.
The guy who invented pop/punk bass playing.

Also Bob Thomson from Big Drill Car.

Matt Freeman (operation ivy, downfall, rancid, devils brigade)
Dee Dee Ramone (ramones)
Paul Simonon(clash)

Matt Freeman (Rancid)
Paul Simonon (The Clash)
Bruce Foxton (The Jam)
bassist from The Buzzcocks

wow, never seen this topic before :p

As per personnal preference....

No one is more Punk and more Bass and more Kickin then our own Mike Watt

http://www.hootpage.com/watt04b.jpg


Goddamn right!

dont know if you;d define it as punk, but Jason Black from Hot Water Music writes some incredible, solid but tight and interesting yet subtle basslines.

dont know if you;d define it as punk, but Jason Black from Hot Water Music writes some incredible, solid but tight and interesting yet subtle basslines.

Matt Freeman (Rancid/OpIvy) and Andy Flag (Anti-Flag) get my vote.

Another vote for MIKE WATT and DARRYL JENNIFER....

and if I can include FLEA...

Now, for a name that has yet to be uttered:

Karl Alvarez from Descendent/ALL.

Get the CD "ALL" by Descendents, and prepare to be impressed.

Two words


KARL ALVAREZ

can play circles around most of the 'punk' bassists out there these days. Great guy too. got to meet him and play with him and check out the Blasting Room. definately check the Descendents or ALL

I'll agree with Matt Freeman. That dude can smoke the strings.

Jon Watson of NineNineNine (999) is worth listening to.
Interesting melodic bass lines.

Mike Watt and Eric Wilson (punk, ska, dub-he does it all!)

Another vote for MIKE WATT and DARRYL JENNIFER....

and if I can include FLEA...

Much respect for Flea... who would no doubt humbly agree 200% with your big-ups for Watt and Darryl Jennifer.

Some of the bassists for The Damned were quite good.
The Stranglers' JJ Burnel is also one of my faves - Not only good bass lines but also a cool sound (as in "Nice & Sleazy") :)

i would go with matt freeman of rancid,op ivy

thanks for the posts guys, yeah i listened to rancid- maxwell murder is class, and the guy from greenday plays some good stuff aswell.
:bassist:
cheers
Tom

Greenday's Bass players name is Mike Dirnt. ;)

wey hey :rolleyes:

Matt Reilly of Japanther. Not only is he a nice and funny guy, but he's completely reinvented the concept of bass in punk music, like Mike Watt and Daryl Jennifer before him.

As bassist in a bass/drum duo, he is responsible for providing a large part of the melody for their songs (in addition to the tape player that backs them up), he can go from melodic, tapped and harmonic lines, to straight-forward traditional fuzz bass. However, unlike many other players before him, he does not try to be overly antagonistic, confrontational or shocking. Rather, his lines fill the room with melody and fuzzy (rather than fierce) distrotion that emulates a padded room for people to dance like they feel. Reilly and Japanther don't want to punch your face in, they want to be friends with you so everyone can go off and get drunk and have a good time together. It's a cold world and Japanther like to welcome you in from the storm.

God they're an awesome band.

hey if youre in san diego on dec. 11th saturday. mike watt is playing at the casbah

If you consider the Violent Femmes punk, then my vote would go towards Brian Ritchie. His acoustic, walking basslines were very uncommon in this type of scene, and he held down the rhythm of the band while still being just as, if not more melodic, than the guitarist. Plus, he was one "punk" bassist who knew how to solo.

If you consider the Violent Femmes punk, then my vote would go towards Brian Ritchie. His acoustic, walking basslines were very uncommon in this type of scene, and he held down the rhythm of the band while still being just as, if not more melodic, than the guitarist. Plus, he was one "punk" bassist who knew how to solo.

I concur.

The man helped make good songs great.

For me, it has to be Bruce Foxton (if you lump The Jam in with punk rock) :bassist:

I would have to say: Number2 and Andy Flag from Anti-flag
Matt Freeman from Rancid
The bassist from Rise Against
The bassist from Larwence Arms

Greenday's Bass players name is Mike Dirnt. ;)

And that quote in your signature is actually from a Bad Religion song that Sublime covered. ;)

I'd also agree that Eric Wilson (who you mentioned earlier) is awesome. I don't know how "punk" he's considered by everyone, but he's an excellent player.

Along with many already mentioned..

Kira Roessler most well know for Black Flag is highly underated. But Damned bass lines are high on my list. Captain Sensible and Algy Ward both had major chops.

Also, for whomever said Sid Vicious...do you realized he never played a bleeding note? Okay, he hit something, but it was certainly not planned. Glen Matlock was their original bassist, and I think that the recordings were a road manager and some session guys if I am not mistaken.

And that quote in your signature is actually from a Bad Religion song that Sublime covered. ;)

I'd also agree that Eric Wilson (who you mentioned earlier) is awesome. I don't know how "punk" he's considered by everyone, but he's an excellent player.
I am very aware of that. Bad Religion is one of my favorite bands. On the other hand I was good friends with Bradley Nowell as well!! Therefoe I don't think anyone could tell me anything about SUBLIME that I don't already know. Peace

Another vote for MIKE WATT and DARRYL JENNIFER....


ditto....these two are probably the best two improv musicians I have ever seen


ADD DAVE ALLEN FROM GANG OF FOUR!!!!!!!!

Another vote for Matt Freeman. I love his stuff :)
+2 for Matt Freeman, Mike Watt, and Simonon, and i add Mike Dirnt.

Mike Dirnt, pick and all.

I say matt freeman, and The Descendent's player who was on Milo Goes to College...mani miss listenin to punk rock i'm not really into it anymore

I found the Qintar...:hiding:

I found the Qintar...:hiding:

He saw a thread about punks and came to intimidate them with his large rippling muscles then steal their girlfriends. The quintar hates punks.

;)

Or.....the quintar saw the word punk in the title and thought it was another Chuck Norris thread.

i love punk (reel punk (romones, misfits)) cos thay mostly dont know how to play there instroments and some how make it sound good

also its easy to get bands to cover.

What about Crimpshrine's guy(I think Jeff Ott played bass for them)? I'm no expert, but he sounded outstanding.

-Abe

Jeff Ott played guitar, Pete Rypins was the bassist. But I agree, I was always surprised at how good a band Crimpshrine was, their recordings always made them sound really amateur. But Jeff Ott was a pretty good guitarist, and Fifteen always had pretty good bassists. I don't know if Jeff wrote the parts and then taught the guys how to play it or the bassists just had tons of time to practice because they had no jobs, but Crimpshrine/Fifteen are criminally underappreciated in Punk. Green Day definintely stole riffs from them.

Blink 182? Green Day? Sissy boys NOT punk rockers. James Taylor is more of punk rocker than those sell outs

Ha ha ha ha ha... +1. My friend and I were talking about this morning. Interestingly enough, the lead-in was how much she hates Jessica Simpson. F-ing sad when you can dismiss what most people consider to be punk bands in the same breath as Jessica Simpson...

what about the dks
is that klaus
i like his playing

That'd be Klaus Fluoride, yeah.

Punk is such a horribly debated thing, and it doesn't even have a definition. Let's just drop that and get back to bass players.

Bassists-

Klaus Flouride - Dead Kennedys

No one else can compete in my opinion

Bass Tabs-

Dead Kennedys-

Forest Fire
Soup Is Good Food (funky)
California Uber Alles

Minutemen-

Viet Nam

Flipper-

HaHaHa

The Clash-

Should I Stay Or Should I Go?
White Riot
London Calling

Name yours

what about mark...

huh?

huh?

i think this fellow meant hoppus.

dare i say it . . .Hoppus . . .

:-)

let the fight begin!!

he roolz man!











naw im just kidding :D

Duuuuuude, wrong forum!

its a little more on the ska side but what i've been learning lately is pretty sweet. Its tons of moving around cool stuff. Check out a song called "Here in your bedroom" by Goldfinger. My band's been working on this as a cover and its a fun bass line.

More of a hardcore band but nick from turning point was pretty good. He is one of the only punk/hardcore bassists to use slap and his basslines were very good too.