Adrian Cho
02-19-2004, 08:19 AM
This morning I had a chance to try out a number of amps and speaker cabinets. Here's the setup:
My bass - mid-20th century German fully-carved bass setup with Olivs (G & D) and Eudoxas (A & E). Average action is about 10 mm measured at the end of the fingerboard. I used the AMT mic with the tailpiece mount and a long gooseneck so that the capsule is located just below the end of the fingerboard.
My friend Jake also brought his bass along - Chinese fully-carved bass setup with Olivs (G & D) and Obligators (A & E). Not sure how high his action is but it's lower than mine. We used the Realist on his bass. Although he has a Stat-B he forgot to bring along the cable to connect it to the Stat preamp.
Unfortunately I was also not able to get hold of a Dyn-B in time for this test but I plan on trying one with some of these speakers at a later date.
Amps and speakers tested:
Acoustic Image Series II Coda
Schertler Pub 2/280
Acoustic Image Clarus 2
Ampeg Portabass 110
Ampeg Portabass 112
Gallien-Krueger 112MBX
Mackie SRM450
Yorkville AM50
I could write pages and pages about this but basically we tried my bass with all the Coda, Pub, Clarus + Portabass 110, Clarus + Portabass 112, Clarus + 112MBX and Jake's bass with the AI Coda, Pub, Coda, SRM450, and AM50.
Disclaimer: This is totally subjective and you can be guaranteed that with different players, different basses and different mics/pickups/strings, etc. that you might get different results.
Unfortunately the room we were in was pretty small and had a lot of carpet. This meant two things. Firstly we couldn't really crank up things because the mic would feedback and and secondly, some of the rigs were quite boom in this small space. This was particularly true for the Coda although using the lifter or the high-pass filter helped.
In summary:
The GK 112MBX sounds exactly like what it is - a metal cabinet. The sound is metallic, hollow, and at times boxy. Yes it's light but that's about all it's got going for it. I also thought the cab rattled slightly in a few places but I couldn't be sure it was the cabinet itself or something else.
The Portabass 110 and the 112 are ridiculously light. Both of these are 4 ohm woofers plus a tweeter in an Italian Poplar plywood cabinet. They are supposed to be 20 and 23 lbs but they feel like half of that. I couldn't believe how light they are. The 110 had a very nice sound - clear in the low end. I liked it better than the Coda although I don't think Jake did. I didn't like the tweeter (which you can dial-in) so much and found it a bit harsh. The big problem was that the grille on the front rattled like hell which was a big disappointment. I can only assume this was unique to this particular unit because no one else I know has complained about this. And the 112 did not have the problem. The Portabass 112 was muddy and slow to respond and did not sound anywhere as natural as it's little brother. It was quickly ruled out.
The SRM450 was a disappointment. At 51 lbs it wasn't in the running anyway but I have been waiting for the 32 lb SRM350 to be released (supposed to be sometime in the next few weeks). The sound was overly dry and flat and basically quite lifeless. It sounded like perhaps it was really EQ'ed for rock music.
The Yorkville AM50 was horrible and made Jake's bass sound like an electric bass.
Yesterday at home I spent two hours A/B'ing the Coda and the Pub and the test this morning only confirmed my thoughts. The Coda is a great unit. The functionality built into the head and the clarity and depth of the resulting sound is better than most other units out there given price and weight. However it can't compare to the Pub. The Pub is so much clearer and more defined especially in the lower register. When you hear the Coda you think - that's a pretty natural sound. But then you try the Pub next to it and you realise how much the Coda is colouring the sound. It's so good that you have to crank it up a bit before you even realise it is on because it's so quiet and clean and the sound is so transparent.
I've had experiences before where I played a CD I was very familiar with on a super high-end stereo system and I could hear things that I had not heard before. I had a similar experience with the Pub. When I played arco, I could hear the buzz of the hair on the strings via the mic. It wasn't a bad thing at all and was just part of the overall arco sound but it was interesting to note.
One important thing is that the Realist did not sound all that great through the Pub and definitely sounded better through the Coda. It not only didn't sound that great but it wasn't the sound of that bass without amplification. Now although one could assume the Pub is voiced for the Stat-B or Dyn-B, the AMT sounds great with it.
For a great all in one package, the Coda is hard to beat and it would be interesting to try the Clarus with another Portabass 110 that didn't have a rattling grille. If time had permitted I probably could have taken the grille off that unit. If you could get one of these units not to rattle (and bear in mind it was just the grille - which was clearly attached with approximately six screws to the cabinet - and not the cabinet itself that rattled) then it would probably be the best sound for weight.
On the issue of weight, the Pub does weigh more (44 lbs vs 27 lbs for the Coda). Although the shape of it makes it easier to carry. When you pick each unit up the additional weight doesn't feel that bad but when I got home I did lug the Pub and the bass from my garage up through my house and into my studio (three flights of stairs in total) and I was not amused at the end of the trip so a trolley is definitely required. Also, the Pub has a single combo XLR/line input. No preamp, no EQ, no multiple inputs. The output of the Realist is pretty low so we had to use the preamp on the Clarus to test the Realist with the Pub (into the high or low Z input and out through the effects send). With the AMT, it was loud enough but if I wanted more, I would have to open the AMT preamp and adjust the gain level pot. And then there's the problem of needing an additional channel for a mic even just to address the audience. Which means I need a blender or a small mixer.
However the sound of the Pub has me sold and I have decided to purchase one.
My bass - mid-20th century German fully-carved bass setup with Olivs (G & D) and Eudoxas (A & E). Average action is about 10 mm measured at the end of the fingerboard. I used the AMT mic with the tailpiece mount and a long gooseneck so that the capsule is located just below the end of the fingerboard.
My friend Jake also brought his bass along - Chinese fully-carved bass setup with Olivs (G & D) and Obligators (A & E). Not sure how high his action is but it's lower than mine. We used the Realist on his bass. Although he has a Stat-B he forgot to bring along the cable to connect it to the Stat preamp.
Unfortunately I was also not able to get hold of a Dyn-B in time for this test but I plan on trying one with some of these speakers at a later date.
Amps and speakers tested:
Acoustic Image Series II Coda
Schertler Pub 2/280
Acoustic Image Clarus 2
Ampeg Portabass 110
Ampeg Portabass 112
Gallien-Krueger 112MBX
Mackie SRM450
Yorkville AM50
I could write pages and pages about this but basically we tried my bass with all the Coda, Pub, Clarus + Portabass 110, Clarus + Portabass 112, Clarus + 112MBX and Jake's bass with the AI Coda, Pub, Coda, SRM450, and AM50.
Disclaimer: This is totally subjective and you can be guaranteed that with different players, different basses and different mics/pickups/strings, etc. that you might get different results.
Unfortunately the room we were in was pretty small and had a lot of carpet. This meant two things. Firstly we couldn't really crank up things because the mic would feedback and and secondly, some of the rigs were quite boom in this small space. This was particularly true for the Coda although using the lifter or the high-pass filter helped.
In summary:
The GK 112MBX sounds exactly like what it is - a metal cabinet. The sound is metallic, hollow, and at times boxy. Yes it's light but that's about all it's got going for it. I also thought the cab rattled slightly in a few places but I couldn't be sure it was the cabinet itself or something else.
The Portabass 110 and the 112 are ridiculously light. Both of these are 4 ohm woofers plus a tweeter in an Italian Poplar plywood cabinet. They are supposed to be 20 and 23 lbs but they feel like half of that. I couldn't believe how light they are. The 110 had a very nice sound - clear in the low end. I liked it better than the Coda although I don't think Jake did. I didn't like the tweeter (which you can dial-in) so much and found it a bit harsh. The big problem was that the grille on the front rattled like hell which was a big disappointment. I can only assume this was unique to this particular unit because no one else I know has complained about this. And the 112 did not have the problem. The Portabass 112 was muddy and slow to respond and did not sound anywhere as natural as it's little brother. It was quickly ruled out.
The SRM450 was a disappointment. At 51 lbs it wasn't in the running anyway but I have been waiting for the 32 lb SRM350 to be released (supposed to be sometime in the next few weeks). The sound was overly dry and flat and basically quite lifeless. It sounded like perhaps it was really EQ'ed for rock music.
The Yorkville AM50 was horrible and made Jake's bass sound like an electric bass.
Yesterday at home I spent two hours A/B'ing the Coda and the Pub and the test this morning only confirmed my thoughts. The Coda is a great unit. The functionality built into the head and the clarity and depth of the resulting sound is better than most other units out there given price and weight. However it can't compare to the Pub. The Pub is so much clearer and more defined especially in the lower register. When you hear the Coda you think - that's a pretty natural sound. But then you try the Pub next to it and you realise how much the Coda is colouring the sound. It's so good that you have to crank it up a bit before you even realise it is on because it's so quiet and clean and the sound is so transparent.
I've had experiences before where I played a CD I was very familiar with on a super high-end stereo system and I could hear things that I had not heard before. I had a similar experience with the Pub. When I played arco, I could hear the buzz of the hair on the strings via the mic. It wasn't a bad thing at all and was just part of the overall arco sound but it was interesting to note.
One important thing is that the Realist did not sound all that great through the Pub and definitely sounded better through the Coda. It not only didn't sound that great but it wasn't the sound of that bass without amplification. Now although one could assume the Pub is voiced for the Stat-B or Dyn-B, the AMT sounds great with it.
For a great all in one package, the Coda is hard to beat and it would be interesting to try the Clarus with another Portabass 110 that didn't have a rattling grille. If time had permitted I probably could have taken the grille off that unit. If you could get one of these units not to rattle (and bear in mind it was just the grille - which was clearly attached with approximately six screws to the cabinet - and not the cabinet itself that rattled) then it would probably be the best sound for weight.
On the issue of weight, the Pub does weigh more (44 lbs vs 27 lbs for the Coda). Although the shape of it makes it easier to carry. When you pick each unit up the additional weight doesn't feel that bad but when I got home I did lug the Pub and the bass from my garage up through my house and into my studio (three flights of stairs in total) and I was not amused at the end of the trip so a trolley is definitely required. Also, the Pub has a single combo XLR/line input. No preamp, no EQ, no multiple inputs. The output of the Realist is pretty low so we had to use the preamp on the Clarus to test the Realist with the Pub (into the high or low Z input and out through the effects send). With the AMT, it was loud enough but if I wanted more, I would have to open the AMT preamp and adjust the gain level pot. And then there's the problem of needing an additional channel for a mic even just to address the audience. Which means I need a blender or a small mixer.
However the sound of the Pub has me sold and I have decided to purchase one.