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CamMcIntyre
06-19-2004, 04:48 PM
Hey everybody, i just thought i'd start a thread on my second and third bass projects. The project title is twins-2 basses, made for me, nearly identical except one is fretted one is fretless.

General specs:

bodies: Alder [c/o larry @ galleryhardwoods]
fingerboards: Pau Ferro 12inch radius [LMII]
chrome hardware
Bartolini P-J pickups [passive]
5 string
1-Unlined fretless w/side dots, 1 fretted w/side dots
Schaller Black straplocks
finish: debating between stained black w/a nitro clear coat, or just goin for black gloss nitro [stew mac].

For more info/see updates of my projects along with pictures-see my sig. for the link.

Also-feel free to make comments about what you think of the shape, the materials, et al. I appreciate the input. That's all

Hambone
06-19-2004, 07:27 PM
Gloss Black is quite simply the most difficult, unforgiving, frustrating, time consuming, error prone, gooberific finish you could possibly choose.

Have a great time!

Last weekend, I'd finished the last stroke on the umpteenth poly coat on the black back of a bound body. What I thought was finally my last. As I turned to put the gun down, a bug flew over my left shoulder and square into the just laid, perfectly glass smooth finish. I've learned that to dig 'em out leaves bigger crater so I just let it cure and started over with the next coat. *sigh*

Mudfuzz
06-19-2004, 07:42 PM
Gloss Black is quite simply the most difficult, unforgiving, frustrating, time consuming, error prone, gooberific finish you could possibly choose.

Have a great time!

Last weekend, I'd finished the last stroke on the umpteenth poly coat on the black back of a bound body. What I thought was finally my last. As I turned to put the gun down, a bug flew over my left shoulder and square into the just laid, perfectly glass smooth finish. I've learned that to dig 'em out leaves bigger crater so I just let it cure and started over with the next coat. *sigh*

Were you outside, I hate lacquering outside.

CamMcIntyre
06-19-2004, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=Hambone]Gloss Black is quite simply the most difficult, unforgiving, frustrating, time consuming, error prone, gooberific finish you could possibly choose.
QUOTE] end of the snip......

Hmmm, i'll do some more research than before committing 100% to the gloss black. The current project [have to place 1 last order] is going to be tung oil. Do you have any suggestions hambone for a colored finish? Like using a wipe on poly over a stain or something? This is why i enjoy TB so much, people that know more than i do and that are willing to share info. :D

Mudfuzz
06-19-2004, 10:29 PM
Do you have this book, if you don't I'd recommend it.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Books,_plans/Building_and_repair:_Finishing/Guitar_Finishing_Step_By_Step.html

I have had ok results with woodburst dyes [It has its quirks though] with tung oil. And TEST not just how the stain or dye looks on scrap but also how the stain / dye reacts with the finish, you can get some strange results if your aren't careful.

CamMcIntyre
06-19-2004, 10:39 PM
Thanks AMN, i think i'll add that to the order from there i'm getting ready to place.

Skips
06-19-2004, 10:48 PM
Gloss Black is quite simply the most difficult, unforgiving, frustrating, time consuming, error prone, gooberific finish you could possibly choose.

Have a great time!

Last weekend, I'd finished the last stroke on the umpteenth poly coat on the black back of a bound body. What I thought was finally my last. As I turned to put the gun down, a bug flew over my left shoulder and square into the just laid, perfectly glass smooth finish. I've learned that to dig 'em out leaves bigger crater so I just let it cure and started over with the next coat. *sigh*
Maybe I'm missunderstanding you, but it sounds like you're saying you just leave the bug on the bass and spray over it????

McHack
06-21-2004, 08:29 AM
Do you have this book, if you don't I'd recommend it.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Books,_plans/Building_and_repair:_Finishing/Guitar_Finishing_Step_By_Step.html

I have had ok results with woodburst dyes [It has its quirks though] with tung oil. And TEST not just how the stain or dye looks on scrap but also how the stain / dye reacts with the finish, you can get some strange results if your aren't careful.

Yea, I bought this book, & it does have quite a bit of info, including various color recipe's... The only thing I wish it did have, was how to mix translucents. But, based upon when you get, it should be easy enough.

Mudfuzz
06-21-2004, 02:55 PM
The only thing I wish it did have, was how to mix translucents. But, based upon when you get, it should be easy enough.

I'll agree with that. I thought the book should have been twice as long. I think it is a good place to start. I would have liked more on french polish though.

CamMcIntyre
06-21-2004, 08:48 PM
Got the Stew-Mac Order placed. I was surprised to find out that they are located in Ohio. According to the tracking number from the shippers website-the package has a good shot at being here tomorrow. I'll give the book a good read through and then comment back here on what finish i think i'm going to use. That's all

x182
06-21-2004, 09:31 PM
Maybe I'm missunderstanding you, but it sounds like you're saying you just leave the bug on the bass and spray over it????

i think i misunderstood him too. cause thats what i read

rllefebv
06-21-2004, 10:12 PM
i think i misunderstood him too. cause thats what i read

When the finish dries, the bug, having gone to his Valhalla, is now a hard little bump, ready to be sanded flat, (or off completely), and painted over... Digging it out when it's wet causes a huge divit in the paint, much harder to fix... don't even bother to ask how I know :D

-robert

Mudfuzz
06-21-2004, 10:57 PM
NEW COLOR ALERT "BUG BURST"
:hiding:

CamMcIntyre
06-28-2004, 09:13 PM
Updates: got the bodies glued up. Body shapes are determined. Got the fingerboards in for being "2nd" level boards-these things are niiice. :D I had LMII go ahead and do the slotting and radiusing for me. [note: LMII grades their fingerboards based on looks not quality]. Pics have been taken. Go to my website under Twins, Pics for all of them. Also-updates have taken place on the first project. I go to a guy's house tomorrow to do the routing. Depending on how long the routing takes-might go ahead and drill for the tuning machines, pots, and the other holes. That's all