Got home from a late gig last night and went to chill in front of the board, and when I logged on I found that no one had posted anything all day. Having a full plate of food and nothing else to do while I ate it, I decided to read some old threads from the "archives" using the new search parameters "in ascending order from the beginning"....I guess I didn't realize just how "young" this board is - it's about 15 months old, right? It kind of got me wondering what the board was like before it was officially "talkbass"...what was it called and what was the format like? Any of you folks suffering from incipient geezerhood remember the good old days and have some stories to tell?

i think this started as paul's guestbook

I was thinking that the other day. I read one of the first posts to the board, and it mentioned that there was an old forum, which used to be archived. I wouldn't mind seeing how this board evolved into the weird and wonderful thing we have today.

Originally posted by john turner
i think this started as paul's guestbook

WOW! I would feel honored if my guestbook turned out to be something this big and great:)

I remember going through 3 or 4 different upgrades since ´98.
but I also have long white dry seasons during which i practically do not appear....so I guess you couldn´t call me a regular member. Sad, thoug, ´cause if I had the time I´d spend a few hours here every day.

R2D2

Herr Fuqua,

Vere can vee vind ziss olt metronome flame krieg? I find zat I am curious becauze ze signs point to anozzer one comink on ze horizon perhapz. Zo far, ze great vall off Berlin iz still standink, aber nicht fur zu lang, I sink...ze rabble iss makingk some noize, nein?

Originally posted by Ed Fuqua
Yah, da olt boord, now dat vuss sumpin.

Actually, we been through 5 or 6 different upgrades. Some of my favorite highlights were :
the metronome flame war
4,5,or 6strings - that was the thread where JT and I really started talking to each other
some nice threads on playing walking lines


yeah, remember the ole "pick vs fingers" debate? poor joris. :D

Originally posted by john turner


yeah, remember the ole "pick vs fingers" debate? poor joris. :D

Alas, poor joris, I knew him Horatio....

Sorry, couldn't resist

What happened to Joris? He seemed to be a pretty knowledgeable guy, at least on the BG amp board.

Yeah - I remember that one and getting involved, but feeling that Joris cam across as a really nice guy despite the flak.

Back on the history, I'm sure I can remember losing all my posts and profiles about 5 times and the old servers being quite unreliable, so it would be unavailable a lot of the time. At one point it seemed that there were only about 5-10 people posting on the BG side and I didn't dare venture to DB as it was all very technical orchestral stuff. When it started I'm sure there was more DB activity than BG, but this changed about the time JT and Biski appeared, when the BG side started to attract more "young people"...

you mean JT "reappeared", right? :D i was on the OLD old board, the one that changed over in december of '99.

i still liked the way that old board would give a tree view of new posts in particular threads. then again, that would look like crap now with how much more there is going on.

Joris..... He got real upset after someone made fun of his rig and vowed never to grace this board again with his presence. He had some homemade cabinet that was just loaded to the hilt. He even posted a picture of it on the old board.

Joris was always good for taking the "maximum-techno" viewpoint on every issue. He is missed.

Don't grieve too soon. Rumors of his demise are premature and false. Joris is still (apparently) amongst us. He's still up at BG, having last posted in the 'Amps' section on 4-01-2001. Rejoice! ;)

Originally posted by john turner
you mean JT "reappeared", right? :D i was on the OLD old board, the one that changed over in december of '99.

i still liked the way that old board would give a tree view of new posts in particular threads. then again, that would look like crap now with how much more there is going on.

Sorry, it's difficult to remember now - I think I started posting about Summer of '98 although I may be getting confused between the FDP and this one - at first, a lot of the same people were on both and this was how I found TB.

Originally posted by XavierG
Don't grieve too soon. Rumors of his demise are premature and false. Joris is still (apparently) amongst us. He's still up at BG, having last posted in the 'Amps' section on 4-01-2001. Rejoice! ;)


I was about to say....I remember seein' him post on here not too long ago....he always seemed extremely knowledgeable....its a shame that we ran him off:(

Originally posted by Tim Ludlam
Joris..... He got real upset after someone made fun of his rig and vowed never to grace this board again with his presence. He had some homemade cabinet that was just loaded to the hilt. He even posted a picture of it on the old board.

Joris was always good for taking the "maximum-techno" viewpoint on every issue. He is missed.

well THAT's lame :rolleyes: joris really knows his stuff. i'm sure those cabs completely rock.

I remember quite well the Psycho Bass Guy episode with the Sunn amp. That was quite freaky.

Psycho Bass Guy?? I wonder if that's the "Bass Psycho" that's causing all kinds of trouble on the 2XBassList? One of those idiots who just likes to stir up flame wars for the fun of it.

Originally posted by mchildree
Psycho Bass Guy?? I wonder if that's the "Bass Psycho" that's causing all kinds of trouble on the 2XBassList? One of those idiots who just likes to stir up flame wars for the fun of it.

Sounds like one and the same.

If you are talking about a real "techy" type who is slightly delusional at times(most of the time) with an SVT that has been modified to crank about a jillion watts out and sounds like angels singing, it's probably him.

The irony is that he probably could be a valuable member of TB if he could communicate without trying to ram his opinion down anyones throat who disagrees with him.

His absence is much more welcome than his presence on TB as far as I'm concerned.

Pkr2

Hey Boom Boom: I'm guessing that "Bass Psycho" on the 2xbasslist wouldn't be caught dead with an SVT - seems to be strictly a DB kinda guy. Probably a different branch of the same bass psycho family tree.

Yeah, PBG knows more about amps than God, and he's extremely fanatical about them, and expresses his opinions in a unique manner. ;)

Grizzled old curmudgeon voice on

Youse young whipperschnappers have it easy! When I waz a boy, we done had no fancy-schmancy cum - pooters! We done had to walk four miles to get on the internet! And then all there was wuz this here box with a handle, and me and smelly, the kid next door, would done take turns spinning dem darn handles so the machine would work. And it wasn't easy to read'n' write'n either. All we done had were those binary codes, ones and zeros. Mind you, we were lucky if we had a zero 'cause we were so poor. I think zeros had just done been 'vented. There wuz a lot of Talk goin' round that zeros were just a fad. I remember that Joe McCarthy said on TV that zeros done were a communist invention. It was the old Beetle Bailey comic strip that made people warm up to Zero. You know, there ain't anything more American than the U.S. Army, an' that's why McCarthy got run out of D.C.
Grizzled old curmudgeon voice off

Will C.:cool:

It wasn't me because I've never owned a Sunn amp. They're so electric. Also, it wasn't me because, although I'm on the Washington 2Xbasslist, I don't intentionally cause trouble and I don't stir up flame wars. If anything I try to put them out, and if possible, with humor.

I did make one guy mad. I told him that if it weren't for the money then I wouldn't be playing music. I don't care for the 'art for arts sake' mentality. He got real mad and used terrible language. Not to mention bad English.

People don't buy my water colors and baskets don't sell like they did in the good old days. I don't like the food in these hospitals and when I'm on weekend release or for something else I want cheap cheese burgers and fries and they cost money.

Relaxing at the Camarillo,
B.P.

Oh Great....now he's here.... At least this list is moderated.

Originally posted by rablack
Hey Boom Boom: I'm guessing that "Bass Psycho" on the 2xbasslist wouldn't be caught dead with an SVT - seems to be strictly a DB kinda guy. Probably a different branch of the same bass psycho family tree.

Gotcha Rablack. You never know what's gonna fall out when you shake the tree.

Boom Boom? :) :) :) You guys are getting better than Ed at fuquaing a name up.

Pkr2

Originally posted by mchildree
Oh Great....now he's here.... At least this list is moderated.

HEAVILY

just remember, over here, big brother really does love you. :D ;)

Rablack is correct when he wrote that I wouldn't be caught dead with an SVT. As with Sunn, they're so electric not to mention HEAVY. Ghastly huge things, you know. The Fender P comes out only when nothing else is paying. I don't care for electric bass, they're so hard to play.

Portability is important and making as few trips as possible from the truck to the stage is a very desirable thing.

Personally I'm a Woods man (that's spelled W-A-L-T-E-R). 7lbs and no hernia.

This looks like a fun party. Just remember what Mother Bates always says, "Don't lie and be polite".

B.P.

There's a funny smell coming from the general direction of the moat. Hmmm...

Originally posted by 1 Bass Psycho


Portability is important and making as few trips as possible from the truck to the stage is a very desirable thing.



Portability is important to me and I'd much rather make lots of journeys with small light objects from my car to the stage, than one journey with a heavy item that injures my back! I can't see that the number of trips really matters.

Is this the full argument or just the 5 minutes? ;)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield
[B]

Portability is important to me and I'd much rather make lots of journeys with small light objects...than one journey with a heavy item that injures my back!...

I'm not into pain or injury, either. It hurts too much.

My rig w/o ACOUSTIC bass, including, amp, speaker cabinet, bag with patch cords, extension cord, power strip, tool kit, fake books, odds & ends, and snacks weighs just under 50 lbs. I know because the nurse weighed me while I was holding everything then she subtracted my weight from the total. She's brilliant and I'm glad I don't have an SVT.

I put it all on a portable luggage cart with big wheels and use the strap on my gig bag to carry the bass. The only fly in this ointment is the manhasset stand. Sometimes it gets jammed in a door way or it falls off and I have to run.

Does anybody out there use a camel caravan?

B.P.

My rules:
2 wire maximum, 1 of which is the power cord.
1 trip from the car.

Hence: wheels; 1 for the bass; 1 airline-type dolly

::if I knew how to display a moved-to-tears smiley, I do it:: Thanks guys. All I ever did is be honest and open minded. Ehm, and sarcastic.

Ehem, ehm ehrr... never been away, 'cept for that time I got completely flamed about my (to me) very sarcastic post about tubes, and why we (still) use them. One guy went completely over the top by taking my words very personally (calling me names and eh... other things), and I decided to stop posting for a few months.

As soon as the pre-current board was launched I signed up again and have been here a few times a week ever since.

I think I first visited TB back in '99. There were a few dozens of regulars and a few hundred members altogether.

I don't remember anyone making fun of my equipment. It sometimes gets praised, and that pleases me very much. I do remember some people giving me a hard time about using a pick, tho'.

I never post in de DB area. I don't play DB, and there's hardly ever anything here that catches my attention here.

I limit myself to the BG Amps, Effects and Off-Topic forums, cause else it would just take too much of my time.

Thanks again.

j

Originally posted by pkr2


Sounds like one and the same.


Nice to know I'm loved.

If you are talking about a real "techy" type who is slightly delusional at times(most of the time) with an SVT that has been modified to crank about a jillion watts out and sounds like angels singing, it's probably him.

I have been disparaged by you from one end of the internet to the other. You have more than made it clear that you don't like what I have to say, so I don't bother you, yet you, in all your superiority, feel the need to berate me even when I have done NOTHING to you.

My technical info is correct, helpful, and dare I say, free for the taking, which also means free for the leaving. Get over yourself. I'm tired of your BS. Oh yeah, howsabout taking a look at your own words and deciding if they apply to you as well as me.


The irony is that he probably could be a valuable member of TB if he could communicate without trying to ram his opinion down anyones throat who disagrees with him.

His absence is much more welcome than his presence on TB as far as I'm concerned.

Pkr2

Not that I'm particularly thin skinned, but this is at least a forum where I can reply to such a low-down character assassination. Pkr2 seems to favor posting derisions of me in forums where I have been banned thanks to his efforts. Before the moderators snipe this out, I would like to point out that they have left a PERSONAL attack with absolutely NO other info remain posted unchecked for several months and I demand a right to reply.

As to the initial question, no I am NOT the source of dischord in the other thread, but if the other "Psycho" gets treated the way I have, I'm sure he won't like it either. If any of you think I'm just a random flamer or trouble maker, a quick search of my past posts will prove otherwise VERY quickly. You will also see that this is not the first time Pkr2 has decided to vent his personal frustrations on me as well. I'm sorry that I haven't been here to "inflame" Pkr2, but I have been VERY busy working on amps (IMAGINE THAT!) among other things. I don't intend to make replies like this a habit, but I'm have done NOTHING to Pkr2, nor to anyone else to merit such venom here at Talkbass.

Psycho >^}

dredging up dead threads, looking for trouble, is not going to endear you to anybody, pbg. i left your reply mostly intact - you have the right to defend yourself - but from now on, please take your disagreement to email/pm, ok? any more on either side will be nixed.

John,
This is not dredging on my part. It has been a VERY long time since I have been here and I don't appreciate the fact that a post like Pkr2's was allowed to be here. I know I'm not very popular, but I am tired of the double standard when it comes to me. It may be forgotten to you, but it was new to me, and I do NOT appreciate it. Where was the moderation when I was on the receiving end?

Psycho >^}

he had his say in public - he's allowed to share his opinion about you or anyone else, and you have been given your chance at a rebuttal.

what part of "take it to email" are you having a hard time dealing with? this is your last warning - further posts on the topic will be deleted.

Wow this really is history now!! ;)

You got me. I didn't date check when I started reading and I was wondering how Fitzy could possible think TBDB is only 15 months old!

heh i was the db mod back then :smug:

Wow. Same good ol' TB -- good information and helpful posts with a bit of flame thrown in for spice.

Good to know some things never change!