This is a search-engine-friendly text mirror of the TalkBass Forums
VIEW FULL LIVE VERSION : How to learn to play a quarter note triplet?
MicceO 09-20-2004, 03:01 AM I've got a problem. For some reason, learning to play a quarter note triplet so that it is rhythmically correct seems to be extremely difficult to me :confused: (any other have similar problems?).
Especially difficult to maintain even foot tap.
So, any word of advice would be highly appreciated!
jtauban 09-20-2004, 05:02 AM Tough to tap your foot along triplets? it seems the problem is not mechanical but has to do with your level of comfort with music that uses triplets in general. I used to play the drums and had the same issue 11 years ago. I managed to overcome it by intensively listening and playing music with triplets, like traditionnal jazz, blues,...
Also start practicing with the metronome playing on beat 2 and 4. (like a drummer's snare drum or hihat), it will help you develop strong swing and feel!
good luck!
Christopher 09-20-2004, 11:25 AM Only way is to practice, and listen to pieces where they're featured.
I hear you, though - they're not the kind of triplet divisions most of us are used to hearing.
Get a notation program like Finale Notepad and create a section with triplets over a 4/4 beat, so you can hear then and practice along.
Oysterman 09-20-2004, 11:36 AM It can be a bit tricky until you get the feel of it. I found the best way for me was to listen and imitate. See if you can have any use of this simple MIDI. It's all steady quarter notes in the beat, one bar count in, one bar arpeggiated quarter notes, then four bars of arpeggiated quarter triplets. You could always start with just listening and tapping your foot to the beat. Then tap your foot to the beat and sing along with the "melody". Then play it.
EDIT: Why can't I attach anything? Ah, seems like you have to do the MIDI yourself after all.
tim99 09-20-2004, 09:03 PM EDIT: Why can't I attach anything? Ah, seems like you have to do the MIDI yourself after all.Make the midi file a zip file first and attach the zip file.
tim99.
Oysterman 09-20-2004, 10:46 PM Make the midi file a zip file first and attach the zip file.I've tried, it doesn't work. No matter what I do, it just won't attach. Something for a bug report, perhaps?
tim99 09-20-2004, 10:53 PM You are right. Not working for me either. Worked last week on another thread.
tim99.
cassanova 09-21-2004, 09:08 AM The best way I can explain how to play a 1/4 note triplet is to think of them as two 1/8 note triplets tied together.
tim99 09-21-2004, 10:41 AM Hey, here is a great page:
http://www.pnc.com.au/~beehive/reading12.html
Look down the page for "Listen to the midi file - quarter notes followed by eighth note triplets followed by quarter note triplets."
Let me try to link it here:
Listen to the midi file (http://www.pnc.com.au/~beehive/trip1.mid)
Hey, that's pretty neat.
tim99.
When you tap your foot on the quarter note and play quarter note triplets you're playing a 3:2 rhythm. Try this - tap your foot on the quarters with a metronome clicking at around 70 bpm. Now, somehow vocalize 1/8 note triplets, which should be pretty easy to do. Sing, click your tongue, count, whatever. Now, clap your hands on every other 1/8 note triplet. cassanova had it right with the tied 1/8 note triplet thing. The key is to feel the 1/8 note triplets while playing the 1/4 triplets. Once you got that, give 1/2 note triplets a shot. :)
-Scot
MicceO 09-22-2004, 06:05 AM Thank you all for your replies, they are most helpful!
I keep on practicing :bassist: and hope that I could report on progress in the near future!
I've got a problem. For some reason, learning to play a quarter note triplet so that it is rhythmically correct seems to be extremely difficult to me :confused: (any other have similar problems?).
Especially difficult to maintain even foot tap.
So, any word of advice would be highly appreciated!
You might also want to have a look at the:Active Bass Line Builder (http://activebass.com/member/linebuilder/lbuilder.asp)
It's free, and you have a variety of programming options. Looks like this:
http://fanafi.org/images/ABLB.jpg
Matt Ides 09-24-2004, 12:34 PM usa a metronome. Set it to a two beat feel. a Click on every 1 & 3. Play straight quarter notes(1234). Then play the triplets (1-trip-let 2-trip-let) then back to straight quarter notes(1234).
Do this enough and you will have no problem hearing and being able to play the triplets from a straight 4/4.
Matt
MicceO 09-25-2004, 05:02 AM usa a metronome. Set it to a two beat feel. a Click on every 1 & 3. Play straight quarter notes(1234). Then play the triplets (1-trip-let 2-trip-let) then back to straight quarter notes(1234).
Do this enough and you will have no problem hearing and being able to play the triplets from a straight 4/4
Matt
Sounds good, thanks! Will try it right away! :bassist:
BlacksHole 09-27-2004, 09:15 AM What helped me was to consider 1/4 note triplets as 1/8 note triplets with each note doubled, i.e., if the note were C, E, G, I'd first play it as CC, EE, GG in 1/8 note triplets (CCE, EGG). From this it was easy to see that the quarter note triplets fall on 1 and 3 of the first quarter note and on 2 of the second quarter note.
Jace The Bass 11-13-2004, 12:29 AM QUARTER NOTE TRIPLETS
If you really want to get the hang of it break it right down
ie. Say we have our friends the eight note triplets
1&a 2&a 3&a 4&a
We know by experience that a quarter note triplet is valued at 2 beats ( minium or half note )
Now hit the 1 the a of 1 and the & of 2
|