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mrfuzzypants
05-24-2001, 09:43 PM
does anyone have any uprite tabs for metal,punk , phsycobilly , or rockabilly type songsmost important the tab for black no 1 by type o negative if so please email me at mistrfuzzypants@aol.com

Angus
05-25-2001, 01:42 AM
Hehe, oh boy, THIS thread is going on the "To Watch" list...

Bruce Lindfield
05-25-2001, 04:48 AM
That would be Tabs that read up and down the page, rather than across - sort of like Chinese script?

I might have seen some Stockhausen notation a bit like this; but I'm not sure whether his music falls into these classifications......

Don Higdon
05-25-2001, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by mrfuzzypants
does anyone have any uprite tabs

Gee, no, but I might have some trombone tabs. Would that help?

steve chase
05-25-2001, 07:36 AM
I didn`t think you would need tab for punk etc,just decide what key it is in ,say G and follow 33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 3333333333333333333333333333
33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 33


EDIT : (JT) just modified the ole' tab there a bit to fit on the page.

Thanks JT, i`m pretty new at computering too!

Fretless Friday
05-25-2001, 07:41 AM
Oh the humanity.

FF

oldsaw
05-25-2001, 09:13 AM
Boy, between this guy and Stupid, you have to agree that we have a dumming down in the schools today. I can't wait to get back Monday to see this thread.

The_Bass
05-25-2001, 09:21 AM
you gotta be kidding!!

tabs for an upright?! come on!!!! and besides, you would have to know where the positions are... there are no fretlines..... how are you gonna play on the 12th "fret" when there are no frets?

I canīt wait 'till Mr. Ed sees this! :D

Iīm gonna turn on email notification.. ;)

john turner
05-25-2001, 09:33 AM
noticing that you are new here, i will give you some friendly advice to help you on your way.

a few points.

1. it's spelled "upright". even better, it's spelled "double bass". oh, and learn standard notation.

2. there are no such things as "tabs" for upright. use standard notation.

3. "tab requests" are not related to "bassists [DB]" in any way - please use the proper forums, although i can't imagine what the proper forum for this thread would be - toss up between humor[DB] and miscellaneous[DB]. and, while we're at it, learn standard notation.

4. have i mentioned that you should learn how to read standard notation? it's really the only way to convey the proper info for an "uprite" ;) bass.

good luck

gruffpuppy
05-25-2001, 09:41 AM
Yeah I have the DB tab for God Save the Queen by the Sex Pistols.
It probably is easier for me to write it so it will be easier for you.
OK
Start on the A string about 8 inches down fromo the nut play an eighth note then the next is an open A, yet another eighth note.
Repeat this pattern for 4 measures.

Then D string 8 inches down, to D strings 7.5 inches down in an eighth note pattern, then back to the start. This pattern keeps repeating there is an open D as well but if you listen to the song you should be able to figure it out.

I hope you were not kidding with your original question.

:D

rablack
05-25-2001, 09:44 AM
Metal on an "uprite" - now there's a concept. What kinda distortion/fuzz box would work best on an "uprite" bass? Is the Ampeg SVT the ultimate "uprite" amp for metal? Would a fully laminate bass "uprite" be advisable? Would the tonal nuances of a carved "uprite" be lost in the metal or punk genres? Food for thought.

SENORFURRYSLACKS - the correct term players like you should use is not "uprite" it's "doghouse." It's true, ask any of the more respected rockabilly players.

The only tabs we use on this side of the board are the ones at the bar. One exception, as Don mentioned, is that we also read through trombone tabs for practice.

steve chase
05-25-2001, 10:06 AM
Thanks chris,thats two things i`ve learned today.
1. what a private message is.

2. how to stretch a margin.(sorry if i spoilt the page setup)

oldsaw
05-25-2001, 11:19 AM
Come on Edward, don't hold it all in. You need to learn how to vent your frustrations better.

Rob W
05-25-2001, 11:41 AM
Just to be a wise guy here for a minute and actually give a somewhat serious answer...

Isn't there a loose tradition among Suzuki students of indicating notes by a string name followed by a fingering? i.e. an F# on the D string might be indicated as D4, or a B on the A string would be A1.

I don't actually teach Suzuki myself but from time to time I come across this convention when I get a new very young student and I have a hunch it does come from the Suzuki tradition. Of course, this only works assuming we're in first position.

Anybody know anything about Suzuki?

mrfuzzypants
05-25-2001, 12:20 PM
sorry i pissed you all off but im new at the double bass im used to playing jazz bass guitar and keyboards but i thought my band would sound better if i started playing a double bass sorry if you guys think im stupid for it but like i said im new at this and i thought you tabbed it out i do realize that there are no frets but my jazz bass has no frets either and i can play that just fine with tabs so if anyone can help me i appreciate it but otherwize im getting pretty offended

mrfuzzypants
05-25-2001, 12:27 PM
and i forgot to thank the people who were actually trying to help
thank you
as for the rest of you .................................................. .................................................. .................

Chris Fitzgerald
05-25-2001, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Rob W


Anybody know anything about Suzuki?

Well, sort of...my first wife was a Suzuki violin teacher, so I know a few things: they claim to teach "by ear", but what ends up happening is that most of the kids learn by rote memorization and never really learn to read. I've had the experience of taking on several 18-20something folks who've been Suzuki trained as piano students - they hit that certain age where they wanted to study jazz, and I ended up working with them. Two of them could play Mozart sonantas with flawless technique - no mean feat, if you know what I mean - but couldn't sight read the head to "C-Jam Blues" or "Blue Bossa" without hearing it first.

Make of that what you will.


SIR SHAGGY SHORTS,

i understand that youre upset and you feel that youve been roughly treated okay i can dig it but did you ever stop to consider that the likelihood of someone with a username like "mr hairy drawers" who drops into a db forum and asks some kind of question about uprite bass tabz for psycobilly and metal who uses no punctuation whatsover which makes his posts next to unintelligible is not likely to be treated very seriously i mean come on dude if youd stopped to read any of the stuff thats been posted here in the past you might have realized that you were likely to be confused for a troll which in fact is what most of us still probably believe you are since you dont seem to be making any effort whatsoever to change our minds by actually trying to make any sense because you wont use any puctuation and you have the nerve to get upset at the people here for treating your post in the way that it was just begging to be treated okay so if your not a troll and you want to be taken seriously how about putting a little effort into it whatdoyousayhowaboutit.......

David Kaczorowski
05-25-2001, 01:47 PM
Gee, before actually looking at this thread I thought maybe it was about bassists who are forthright in paying what they owe their corner bar in timely manner. Then I though, no, it must be about the still-erect tombstones of some long dead bassists. I'm trying real hard to overcome the shock.

dhosek
05-25-2001, 03:56 PM
And for the record, a straight answer for the original questioner:

Double bassists don't use tab. If we're working from something written, then we want it in standard notation.

You could, I suppose, almost translate what you're playing on bass guitar to db, but you'll find that the instruments are really radically different and an approach to even a simple walking bassline will be played very differently on the two instruments by the same player. For example, I have deeply ingrained into my skull the bass part to In the Mood which is a pretty basic line in Ab. Against the Ab chord, the bassline runs Ab-C-Eb-F|Ab'-F-Eb-C on quarter notes.

On DB. I played this by starting in first position, playing Ab on the E string with my fourth finger, C on the A with my second, then shifting to half position to play the rest of the line, returning to first position when the pattern reached the beginning.

On BG, I would play this starting fingering Ab with my first finger on the E string, doing a Carol Kaye-style pivot to reach C on the E string, then playing Eb F on the A string and Ab' on the G, returning as I came.

Same notes, but different idiomatic approaches to the line depending on the instrument. DB technique translates more effectively to BG than the other way around, I think. Trying to use the BG fingering on the In the Mood bass line would almost certainly result in rather wonky intonation.

So practical advice for approaching the songs on db?

1. Remember that db and bg are different instruments. Don't try and treat them as the same thing.
2. Use your ears. If you aren't listening to what you play and how it fits in with what the rest of the band is playing, you'll never sound good.
3. Realize that db players communicate with standard notation, not with tab. And that reading music is an invaluable skill for any musician to have.

-dh

mrfuzzypants
05-25-2001, 04:23 PM
thanx that was the best description ive gotten. i can read most types of music charts i just have to relearn how to read sheet music its been years.

shlomo
05-26-2001, 01:20 AM
Don't you all think we're expecting a little much? The poor boy doesn't have enough wits to write a correct sentence, let alone read music. Once upon a time, computer use *encouraged* proper syntax. Now it seems to be abandoned far too often.

As for our friend, who knows? He may pioneer bass tab and make lots of money selling tab versions of, say, the complete Beethoven symphonies. Things more asinine than that have transpired before mine eyes.

koricancowboy
06-25-2003, 08:40 PM
hey I thought this was a forum to discuss double bass!:confused: I have to say though the amount of slander used in this forum is quite ridiculous. The boy had a legitimate question and you all (exceptions noted) jump down his throat as if he were the punching bag. People like you are in my opinion frustated dunces who have managed to perhaps excel in one aspect of your life and decide to use that as some sort of badge of superiority. A simple answer would have sufficed. Incidentally is this a forum exclusive to adolescents. If it is it would definitely explain the high school behavior. (Double Bass High?) To answer all your questions regarding playing DB I would suggest researching a reputable teacher in your area. I feel as if all of those self-esteem challenged responders owe you a big apology and hope they are mature enough to do so! Keep playing and ignore all the criticism you will inevitably get from other players. Playing is for you and not them so don't bother getting offended by the drivel presented by these morons. Ausberto:spit:

Mike Goodbar
06-25-2003, 09:16 PM
Before you pass judgement too hastily, CORIANGAUCHO, let me tell you a little story.

After falling prey two years ago to the merciless hands of DURRL, Donosaur and several others who have gradually left these premises in shame after realizing the error of their ways, the good mrfuzzypants, though emotionally scarred, pulled himself up by his bootstraps after recognizing a kernel of wisdom in the taunts and jeers.

That brave young lad echewed tabz, metal, psychobilly etc and set upon a path of self renewal, a metamorphosis shall we say. He subsisted, nay, THRIVED, on a steady regimen of Simandl, Hrabe and even Bille. Why, he even picked up a copy of Strunk and White.

What became of this misguided young fool? Though still too devastated to play in public, he found solace in selling budget-priced basses in hardshell cases at a popular online auction site. Though he is elusive and easily frightened, here is a rare glimpse of this budding phenom:

http://www.freedomguitar.com/ebay/rlprimabassjeff.jpg

Now you know.... THE REST OF THE STORY!

gruffpuppy
06-25-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by koricancowboy
Ausberto:spit:

This thread is about 2 years old.
If you don't enjoy sarcasm spank your monkey somewhere else.

The world has enough self-induced martyrs.

Chris Fitzgerald
06-25-2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by koricancowboy
hey I thought this was a forum to discuss double bass!:confused: I have to say though the amount of slander used in this forum is quite ridiculous. The boy had a legitimate question and you all (exceptions noted) jump down his throat as if he were the punching bag. People like you are in my opinion frustated dunces who have managed to perhaps excel in one aspect of your life and decide to use that as some sort of badge of superiority. A simple answer would have sufficed. Incidentally is this a forum exclusive to adolescents. If it is it would definitely explain the high school behavior. (Double Bass High?) To answer all your questions regarding playing DB I would suggest researching a reputable teacher in your area. I feel as if all of those self-esteem challenged responders owe you a big apology and hope they are mature enough to do so! Keep playing and ignore all the criticism you will inevitably get from other players. Playing is for you and not them so don't bother getting offended by the drivel presented by these morons. Ausberto:spit:


Nice entrance there, KEYSTONECOP. It might interest you to know that at the time this thread was originally posted, the Double Bass forum was being regularly trolled by bass guitar players making fake TaB rEqUeStS on a regular basis just to get on everyone's nerves. The carnage you now witness in this two year old thread is the outcome of everyone who was trying to legitimately use the board to discuss double bass issues letting loose and raining on what all assumed was just another troll post. While it's true that the result is not pretty to look at, I think that even a casual survey of the other posts on this BBS will reveal that most on this board go out of their way to be helpful to those discussing real double bass issues.

To sum up, if you weren't around for the "Tab Wars", you know not of what you speak. To make an assumption that the participants of this thread are "morons" who post nothing but "drivel" is without a doubt one of your rights; but I suspect that if you knew the full history of this board and this thread, you would also consider it one of your wrongs. YMMV.

koricancowboy
06-25-2003, 10:13 PM
My BAD! Whoops!:rolleyes:

Chris Fitzgerald
06-26-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by HARVEY GOODPAUL
He subsisted, nay, THRIVED, on a steady regimen of Simandl, Hrabe and even Bille. Why, he even picked up a copy of Strunk and White.



This is killing me. We should all remember to recommend this in all of those "technique book" threads.

Bruce Lindfield
06-26-2003, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by koricancowboy
The boy had a legitimate question and you all

Well - the point which you are missing apart from all the things Chris says - is that it's not a legitimate request!

So - there is no intrinsic difference in the music played by BG and DB - the 4 string versions are playing the same notes and have roughly the same range. So - there was nothing to stop him using BG Tabs on DB if he really wanted to.

As Chris points out - there have been a spate of idiots trying to 'wind up' or 'get a rise' out of the more serious DB players over the years and this is just a case of the DBers proving they have a much better sense of humour as well!! ;)

arto alho
06-26-2003, 06:31 AM
Hey, Hooliganplowboy,
how come you find this dusty old thread and dig it into daylight anyhow?? You sure done a job readin those old posts.
Those were the days...

R2

Marcus Johnson
06-26-2003, 04:30 PM
I think I remember Bottesini posting on this thread. DURRL removed the posts for obscene language.

arto alho
06-27-2003, 01:04 AM
Nope, man
He got Fuguaīd and left.
Later he deleted his posts himself.

R2

Ps. BTW Goodyear, strange posture...do we have a case of hanging elbow here?

gruffpuppy
06-27-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Marcus Johnson
I think I remember Bottesini posting on this thread. DURRL removed the posts for obscene language.

His I only need 3 strings attitude got old fast.