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mollin man
08-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Hi everybody!... (hi doctor Nick!)

i'm planing on making a single-cut fretted 6 string and i fave no clue how to shape the joint where the neck meets the upper bout.

any sugestions would be helpful...

thanks,
Mollin Man.

Geoff St. Germaine
08-05-2005, 02:49 PM
Do you mean that you don't know what the shape should be, or how to do the shaping?

mollin man
08-05-2005, 02:51 PM
Do you mean that you don't know what the shape should be, or how to do the shaping?
I dont know what the shape should be

Geoff St. Germaine
08-05-2005, 04:32 PM
Ok, well that's not too difficult. The first thing I would do is look at a few examples of singlecut basses from various luthiers. I'd want to look at Nordstrand, JP Basses, Fodera, Benavente and Elrick for sure.

Here's some examples in the order I listed:

http://www.nordstrandguitars.com/assets/images/gallery/ChernWei/final5.jpg

http://www.jpbasses.com/A558A4/jpbasses.NSF/img/11012004/$File/11012004_11.JPG

http://www.thegrooveshoppe.com/Images/Fodera_Pics/AJ6-3-Pres9/AJ-4-macro.jpg

http://www.thelowend.net/gallery/images/benavente/newhotness/sca8-jo.jpg

http://www.elrick.com/images/gallery/Classic1Cut/web%20classic%205%201-cut%20flame%20back.jpg


Hope that helps.

JP Basses
08-05-2005, 05:28 PM
I do it quite differently now:
http://www.jpbasses.com/A558A4/jpbasses.NSF/img/09072005/$File/2.JPG
http://www.jpbasses.com/A558A4/jpbasses.NSF/img/09072005/$File/3.JPG

http://www.jpbasses.org/forum/files/jpbasses_sc_7_medium4.jpg

Worshiper
08-05-2005, 05:53 PM
you can do bolt on too- http://roballenguitars.com/images/photos_deep/dp_detail_002.jpg

mollin man
08-05-2005, 06:17 PM
this is all great guys but i think i'm in over my head on this one. this is only my 2nd instument and my 1st neck through.
so mabye i should go with the regular two horn arrangement... just to be safe...

but thanks anyways and sorry i wasted your time...

does anybody know whrer i can find a 6 string monorail bridge? :p

Geoff St. Germaine
08-05-2005, 07:05 PM
ABM makes them. You can get that at all parts. Also, ETS builds one too. http://www.ets-hardware.com/

mollin man
08-06-2005, 10:17 AM
thanks for the info on the bridges. It really helps alot.

I've finished the design for my bass last night. it's only pencil and paper cause i don't have the skills to draw it on computer. I'd like to know what you pple think about it. any input is appreciated.

Thanks,
Mollin Man

(P.S. yes i know it looks like Claypool's bass!)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/mollinman/6stringconcept.jpg

wilser
08-06-2005, 11:16 AM
Hey JP,
a question about why you changed your approach to carving the neck/body joint on singlecuts ...was that done out of necessity for a simpler process or does it actually have a functional purpose? IMHO your previous approach was much more elegant.

JP Basses
08-06-2005, 12:51 PM
Hey JP,
a question about why you changed your approach to carving the neck/body joint on singlecuts ...was that done out of necessity for a simpler process or does it actually have a functional purpose? IMHO your previous approach was much more elegant.

You got two reasons right. And one missing lol

First it's a bit simpler cause it can be roughed with a router.
Second it's functinnal as, just like on my bolt on models this time of joint with the 1/4 round "drives" your thumn behind the neck while accessing the higher notes.
Third, It's just different from the way others do it :D

About it beeing more or less elegant, no problem on your opinion. I myslef prefer the new joint.


Peace,
JP

Wolfehollow
08-06-2005, 01:19 PM
This is how Marchlewski does it...

http://marchlewskiguitars.com/images/jon2/pics/P1010077.jpg

JP Basses
08-06-2005, 01:58 PM
This is how Marchlewski does it...

http://marchlewskiguitars.com/images/jon2/pics/P1010077.jpg

Yeah Jon, your bass definitely inspired me to change my way of doing it.

Tbirdbassist
08-06-2005, 02:57 PM
Hey Mollin Man, You should go out and buy some graph paper and draw your sesign to scale. It will give you a better idea of how it will look and will make you rethink your design. I did this using graph paper and made it so each box equal 1".

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/ricplyr/BassDesign.jpg

But for a freehand design you did a pretty good job. Even though I'm not really a fan of single cut basses like the ones above with the ultra long top "horn", I think that design would look better as a single cut.

mollin man
08-06-2005, 03:07 PM
Hey Mollin Man, You should go out and buy some graph paper and draw your sesign to scale. It will give you a better idea of how it will look and will make you rethink your design. I did this using graph paper and made it so each box equal 1".

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/ricplyr/BassDesign.jpg

But for a freehand design you did a pretty good job. Even though I'm not really a fan of single cut basses like the ones above with the ultra long top "horn", I think that design would look better as a single cut.

thanks for the sugestion. i'm gonna try it again tonight with graph paper this time (i'm sure i have some around here somewheres :p )

Wolfehollow
08-06-2005, 05:04 PM
whoa!^^^^


looks good jp!

C-5KO
08-06-2005, 05:13 PM
Here's a closer picture of an Elrick.

http://www.talkbass.com/photopost/data/500/54286newe6k-med.jpg

mollin man
08-07-2005, 06:07 PM
here it is!! attempt #2!! i drew it in pencil, traced it in pen, and erased the pencil cause with just the pencil, it was hard to see.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/mollinman/6stringconcept2.jpg
the bottom edge near the controls will be more rounded that in the pic.