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tombowlus 09-02-2005, 08:39 AM Peavey 1820 (two 10's and an 18). I gigged with this for years, but I had some issues with blowing the 18" Black Widow. After replacing the cone/voice coil several times, I went looking for an 18" that I could not blow and found a Madison Executioner (rated at 1,000w RMS!!!). I did not know what to expect, but dear lord does this driver kick booty in the 1820! It has seismic lows (the deepest of ANY cab I own!), and it feels like it is actually compressing the air in our practice room! Tone is really good, too. So, with good results here, I decided to try replacing the 10's as well, and based upon the box volume and the frequency response of the 18, I picked up two very nice Selenium 10's (forget the model). Again, a notable improvement, with better articulation and detail (and of course, higher power handling - though I never did blow the 10" Scorpions). I'd sell this cab, local pickup, for $225 with the Madison/Selenium drivers, or $175 if I pull the Seleniums and put the Scorps back in. I have two grills for this cab. The standard one, and one made from metal (in black) to match the Peavey 210TX that I used with this cab for years.
It's somewhat beat up cosmetically, but in sound condition. I have some really nice casters that were on it for years (but which I removed to make an amp cart). I could be persuaded to put these back on for a nominal fee (or throw some cheaper casters on for even less!).
Tom.
tombowlus 09-15-2005, 03:51 PM Bump
DEVILMAN 09-17-2005, 12:51 AM That cab is a BEAST! If I had the room, I'd snatch it in a NY minute!
~S~
Munjibunga 09-17-2005, 01:44 AM That's the second cab I owned (not this actual one). I got it back in about 1980 with a Mark IV head. I recall it was a pretty bullum cab. I know where it is. I sold it to the son of one of our drillers.
Heh, I love the old fridges, my brother had one of that series of cab, pity the shipping to me would cost several times the cab itself. Bump for a great cab anyway.
Bump for a kewl cab. I used *2* back in the day (ouch, my back!). After several years of basement retirement, I traded them both for one SWR Henry 8x8...
Shipping via fedex ground would not be too painful if this cab suits you. Alos, www.forwardair.com charges $25 per 150lbs if you're close to an airport on both ends...
Crockettnj 09-19-2005, 11:13 PM if only i didnt have size restricitions and an aversion for stairs and the 1820! i had one breifly in college and it really did rock. yours, as upgraded, sounds like a bearst.
Metal Mitch 09-21-2005, 06:14 PM bump for a killer driver. I call mine "the howitzer".
It has seismic lows (the deepest of ANY cab I own!), and it feels like it is actually compressing the air in our practice room!
you know, I just remembered my gf can't stand being in the same room with it for that very reason. she has problems with vertigo, and as soon as I hit a note she completely loses it. she says it's like the whole room becomes pressurized like an airplane cabin.
P.S. the fs on that 1000 watt beast is 26Hz. the specs on the Madison website are wrong. when they redesigned the site, they cut and pasted the specs of the DVC version and listed them under the Executioner X 18 column. to my knowledge, it was never corrected.
PUNISHING!!! :bassist:
tombowlus 09-21-2005, 11:26 PM P.S. the fs on that 1000 watt beast is 26Hz. the specs on the Madison website are wrong. when they redesigned the site, they cut and pasted the specs of the DVC version and listed them under the Executioner X 18 column. to my knowledge, it was never corrected.
Thanks for the information! If I hadn't sold my Accugroove Gordo, I was considering putting that driver in the Gordo, just for kicks (and for something more portable). What do you have yours in?
Tom.
Metal Mitch 09-22-2005, 06:11 PM Mine is in one of the older Madison MAB183 cabs. I swapped out the stock Executioner (500 watt model) for the Executioner X version. It probably sounds better in your 1820 with more internal volume.
Since you liked that spec, I dug up Madison's 2003 spec sheet I saved before they introduced the DVC and changed the website. Can't really copy and paste from it, but here's some of the other "feature" specs -
Fs = 26Hz
Qts = .347
BL = 29.622
spl = 98db
usable freq resp = 25-3K
coil = 4" alum
magnet = 200 oz.
watts rms = 1000
low Qts makes it very articulate for an 18, super high BL makes it punchy (more like PUMMELING), and it plays up to 3K!!! - which is higher than a lot of the 10's you find in the new low-playing 10 cabs like the Eden XST.
DEVILMAN 09-22-2005, 06:46 PM ...How much for that Madison driver? I wonder how it stacks against a Beyma GS550?
@Mitch, I thought you played black metal/metal? What the heck are you doing with an 18" cab? That's "DOOM" territory my man!...
~S~
Metal Mitch 09-22-2005, 08:26 PM yo S, it's death/black... we don't tune to D like all the gnuskewl BM kiddies!! when I first joined the band in 99, our guitarist (at that time) had just got off the road with Mortician and we tuned to A flat. now we're in B flat.
why don't you take the cab??!!
DEVILMAN 09-22-2005, 08:43 PM ...because I have THIS!...
~S~
What do you have?...
tombowlus 09-22-2005, 08:47 PM Thanks again for all the information, Mitch. Maybe I'll have Don up at Low Down Sound build me a cab to throw this in. Truly, this cab has the deepest lows of any cab I have heard, and it does not get floppy at all. I'd love to hear it up against a Whappo Grande!
I would definitely still gig with this cab if I didn't have to store my band equipment in the basement. With casters and a van, it was a pretty easy load, but one guy and a flight of steps is a killer, even for a brute such as myself. Devilman wouldn't have a problem, though... :D
DEVILMAN 09-22-2005, 08:53 PM ...grrrrrr...me throw 1820 for fun into van upstairs!...grrrrrr...
~S~
tombowlus 09-22-2005, 09:01 PM ...because I have THIS!...
~S~
What do you have?...
Is that your Bag End 1x18? It looks kind of like a Mesa Boogie Diesel cab.
Tom.
DEVILMAN 09-22-2005, 09:17 PM ...Mesa CAB, Bag End SPEAKER!...
~S~
tombowlus 09-23-2005, 07:39 AM ...Mesa CAB, Bag End SPEAKER!...
~S~
Nice!
tombowlus 10-19-2005, 02:43 PM After playing around with this cab a bit more, I think that it might sound the best with the Madison 18, but with the stock Peavey Scorpion 10's. The Seleniums have more high end bite, and the Scorps have more midrange beef, so it's a matter of preference, but I think it is the most well balanced with the Scorpions and that Madison. So, with that in mind, I'd go $200 with this speaker configuration. Also, just to be clear, the tolex is rather beat up, but the cab is in great working condition.
I'll try and shoot some pics.
Tom.
Unchain 10-19-2005, 02:59 PM What ohm is this cab?
tombowlus 10-19-2005, 03:02 PM What ohm is this cab?
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DEVILMAN 10-19-2005, 06:08 PM ...does it have an "Acmeswitch"?...
~S~
tombowlus 10-19-2005, 07:33 PM ...does it have an "Acmeswitch"?...
~S~
No, but it does have the unsual distinction of listing the impedance for the cab as a whole at 4 ohm, and it has a "high" and a "low" input, both rated at 4 ohm. :eyebrow: Let me put a meter on this and be sure. I always suspected that it was really 8 ohm each for the highs and the lows and 4 ohm total, but it could be the other way around (or it could be a 2 ohm total load).
DEVILMAN 10-19-2005, 08:14 PM WOW! Holy Thomas Edison Batman!
Wish I was closer, I'd definetly grab this one...
~S~
Funkengrooven 10-20-2005, 12:53 PM ...because I have THIS!...
~S~
What do you have?...
Man, I though I was a power mad speaker fanatic!!!! :eek: :eek:
Funkengrooven 10-20-2005, 12:57 PM No, but it does have the unsual distinction of listing the impedance for the cab as a whole at 4 ohm, and it has a "high" and a "low" input, both rated at 4 ohm. :eyebrow: Let me put a meter on this and be sure. I always suspected that it was really 8 ohm each for the highs and the lows and 4 ohm total, but it could be the other way around (or it could be a 2 ohm total load).
If Peavey has their usual style crossover in that cabinet, then when you use the speakers without the internal crossover (by using the discrete hi and low inputs) the crossover is disconnected and the impedance becomes the 18 by itself and the 10's by themselves.
tombowlus 10-20-2005, 01:00 PM If Peavey has their usual style crossover in that cabinet, then when you use the speakers without the internal crossover (by using the discrete hi and low inputs) the crossover is disconnected and the impedance becomes the 18 by itself and the 10's by themselves.
That is my understanding as well. But, I'm either dealing with two different 4 ohm loads or two different 8 ohm loads. So, when combining them (using the full-range inputs), I'd have either a 2, 4, 8, or 16 ohm load, depending on the variables. How could it be 4 ohm for the two 10's by themselves, 4 ohm for the 18 by itself, and 4 ohm when I power them all together? And no one mention the "S" word! :eyebrow:
Passinwind 10-20-2005, 01:08 PM How could it be 4 ohm for the two 10's by themselves, 4 ohm for the 18 by itself, and 4 ohm when I power them all together? And no one mention the "S" word! :eyebrow:
How about the C word then? As in crossover. :cool: My recollection of that cab is that it has a passive crossover at ~500Hz or so, no? It's been a zillion years since I owned one though. In any case, a passive crossover has the ability to present a more or less constant impedance that would allow the cab to be 4 ohms nominal impedance with a 4 ohm woofer and a 4 ohm "tweeter". The full-range inputs run the cab in the typical 2 way fashion, so the speakers are neither directly in series nor directly in parallel.Those pesky panty-twisting caps have some legitimate functions too, y'know. :ninja:
tombowlus 10-20-2005, 01:19 PM How about the C word then? As in crossover. :cool: My recollection of that cab is that it has a passive crossover at ~500Hz or so, no? It's been a zillion years since I owned one though.
Right, but isn't that either a 2 ohm load or an 8 ohm load? I understand that with a crossover, the frequency range is split, with each set handling half, but doesn't that still present two loads to the amp?
Tom.
Passinwind 10-20-2005, 01:26 PM Right, but isn't that either a 2 ohm load or an 8 ohm load? I understand that with a crossover, the frequency range is split, with each set handling half, but doesn't that still present two loads to the amp?
Nope, as I said in my edited post above yours, part of the passive crossover's function is to present a constant overall impedance as the load switches between the drivers. The woofer system (driver plus crossover components) impedance gets higher as frequency increases, and the tweeter system's impedance gets progressively lower. This hopefully leaves you with 4 ohms across the full frequency spectrum, more or less.
tombowlus 10-20-2005, 01:29 PM Nope, as I said in my edited post above yours, part of the passive crossover's function is to present a constant overall impedance as the load switches between the drivers. The woofer system (driver plus crossover components) impedance gets higher as frequency increases, and the tweeter system's impedance gets progressively lower. This hopefully leaves you with 4 ohms across the full frequency spectrum, more or less.
Cool. I think I'm on board. :D
Tim Cole 10-20-2005, 06:26 PM ...Mesa CAB, Bag End SPEAKER!...
~S~
Heh, I have a mesa diesel 2x10 with epifani drivers.
DEVILMAN 10-20-2005, 06:53 PM ...the Epi's are probably Eminence made just like my BE 18". Great speakers nontheless that work great in the Mesa's cabs dimensions/porting...uh oh, we might start a "mutiny" here...
~S~
thestevo 10-25-2005, 12:08 AM I think this may be mine pretty soon... :bassist:
tombowlus 10-25-2005, 12:11 AM This baby's on hold! :D
Metal Mitch 10-26-2005, 12:56 AM After playing around with this cab a bit more, I think that it might sound the best with the Madison 18, but with the stock Peavey Scorpion 10's. The Seleniums have more high end bite, and the Scorps have more midrange beef, so it's a matter of preference, but I think it is the most well balanced with the Scorpions and that Madison.
Sounds like a good call. I use mine with the Madison 410 which is plenty beefy on its own. It's also pretty ok with my old Carvin V210 which is bright and warm and sounds great with distortion. As always YMMV...
tombowlus 11-15-2005, 11:29 PM This cab - or potentially just the drivers mentioned above - are back on the market!
Munjibunga 11-16-2005, 01:06 AM Did you know that Peavey made a 3620 version of this? Same thing, only with two 18s. Yike!
TaySte_2000 11-16-2005, 02:50 AM Yeah I recently came across a 3620 but decided I didn't need a rig that could kill people :D these look like ace cabs, just screaming to be run with all tube heads
Passinwind 11-16-2005, 12:45 PM This cab - or potentially just the drivers mentioned above - are back on the market!
Tom,
Did you ever figure out the model number of the Selenium tens? I might be interested in those if they become expendable.
tombowlus 11-16-2005, 10:55 PM Tom,
Did you ever figure out the model number of the Selenium tens? I might be interested in those if they become expendable.
I'll get back to you on this.
bassinflux 11-17-2005, 04:46 PM how much does it weigh
dimensions?
tombowlus 11-17-2005, 05:01 PM how much does it weigh
dimensions?
Too much! But I am going to try and find out tonight.
However, it is again technically on hold.
Tom.
violatedppl 11-18-2005, 12:39 AM theirs a music shop in the city I used to live in, they have the 3620 and its painted are an american flag, the thing makes an 810 look small. But they want like 450 :spit: :spit: sorry although it would be a massive amount of low end its not worth the price, or the semi you would need to move it.
romrom11 12-27-2005, 03:12 AM Is the cab still up for grabs?
tombowlus 12-27-2005, 01:20 PM Is the cab still up for grabs?
If I end up shipping it, I already have a buyer in line, but this thing is gawd aweful heavy, and I am still hoping for a local sale.
Tom.
Piezoman 12-27-2005, 04:39 PM How arre these with the stock drivers? Some guy is selling one around me for 250.
Worth looking into? Im also looking at the schroeder cabs. Probably the 1210.
tombowlus 12-27-2005, 09:09 PM How arre these with the stock drivers? Some guy is selling one around me for 250.
Worth looking into? Im also looking at the schroeder cabs. Probably the 1210.
At the time that they were initially made, I thought that it was a good cab for the money, to be honest. I still think that it is a passable cab, today, with stock speakers, but there are so many more options to choose from nowadays, and by and large, they are going to surpass what the 1820 can offer. I really do think that the Madison 18" transformed my particular cab, but in truth, my impression of them in stock form is not as harsh at Pat's. ;)
But when you have great bang for the buck companies like Low Down Sound and Dr. Bass out there, it does make you stop and do a reality check.
Tom.
DEVILMAN 12-27-2005, 09:45 PM ...and the beat goes on...
~S~
MODNY 12-28-2005, 10:54 AM Thanks for the information! If I hadn't sold my Accugroove Gordo, I was considering putting that driver in the Gordo, just for kicks (and for something more portable). What do you have yours in?
Tom.
you can buy the gordo back if u want//
tombowlus 01-05-2006, 09:33 AM As I mentioned, this cab is a bit beat up cosmetically (I gigged with it pretty hard over a multi-state area), but it is in good working condition. I replaced the grill to match my Peavey 210TX, and then shortly thereafter, we all added these vinyl "splats" to our grills (it was kinda cool, at the time, I thought :rolleyes:). I do have the original grill, too, and it is in like new shape. You can just barely tell from the photos that I added a wood "plate" to the bottom so that I could use some lag bolts to very securely mount some nice casters. Those casters got scavenged for another job, but I might be able to find some old casters laying around to put back on the cab.
That said, here are some shots of the beast:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/Peavey%201820/113_1398.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/Peavey%201820/114_1401.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/Peavey%201820/113_1400.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/Peavey%201820/113_1399.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/Peavey%201820/114_1403.jpg
It only makes sense that it's beat up looking cause they do weigh a ton. I had a 1516 that I sold last year to a TB'er for $100. Stock speakers, sounded crappy if it got pushed to hard by my gk800rb. A good match for that amp as both units were bi-ampable. My schroeder 410 weighs only slightly less but in a more managable size. An 1820 needs a dolly and/or casters of appreciable duty.
tombowlus 01-24-2006, 10:43 AM Bump.
Triclops 01-31-2006, 01:28 AM 4ohms man...I know all about the speakers, as I used to have an 1810 with scorpions and a black widow in it.the excecutioner is 8ohms and the 2 scorps together are 8 ohms...
I hope this helps.
tombowlus 01-31-2006, 09:54 AM 4ohms man...I know all about the speakers, as I used to have an 1810 with scorpions and a black widow in it.the excecutioner is 8ohms and the 2 scorps together are 8 ohms...
I hope this helps.
But Peavey also claims that the impedance for the lows is 4 ohm and for the highs is 4 ohm. Plus, the 18" Black Widow (and replacement Executioner) is (are) 4 ohm, and the Scorps/Seleniums are 8 ohm each. I think it's a crossover thing.
Tom.
superbassman2000 02-04-2006, 11:49 PM Bump for an awesome yet massive cab
Iritan 03-01-2006, 09:34 PM Man, I really wish I lived in ohio, I'd buy this mofo in a heartbeat.
Eric Cioe 03-01-2006, 10:13 PM Man, I really wish I lived in ohio, I'd buy this mofo in a heartbeat.
Sounds like you need a road trip!
Iritan 03-02-2006, 09:39 PM If only I wasn't a sixteen year old with a job and school to get in my way...not to mention parents. Oh fudge.
Theonestarchild 03-19-2006, 05:15 PM I'll buy it, but It will have to be shipped. And I need a week to come up with the cash. Possibly more. But I desperately want one of these.
tombowlus 03-19-2006, 08:41 PM I'll buy it, but It will have to be shipped. And I need a week to come up with the cash. Possibly more. But I desperately want one of these.
Sorry, but it is on hold for a local sale.
Ron Now 12-08-2007, 02:03 AM If that falls through can I have dibs?
Tim Cole 12-08-2007, 02:06 AM 27 months :D
HAS to be a record for longest FS listing ever :)
I am impatient. No bites for about 4 days, it goes on ebay for $1
mike_v_s 12-08-2007, 08:35 AM 27 months :D
HAS to be a record for longest FS listing ever :)
I am impatient. No bites for about 4 days, it goes on ebay for $1Awesome. Let me know when the Spector goes up for $1.....and be sure to list it as a BIN. I'm a fast payer and have great feedback.
Mike
tombowlus 12-10-2007, 01:46 PM If that falls through can I have dibs?
The 'buyer' doesn't seem all that eager to finish this deal.
If someone wants to pick it up (I ain't shipping this behemoth), I would sell it to the first person to get here! :cool:
JonathanD 12-10-2007, 02:00 PM I wonder how long it would take me going 95MPH to get to you? j/k I have to many cabs as it is... but damn this would be fun I am sure.
Jonathan
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