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Basschair
10-19-2005, 10:05 AM
Man, I've been posting a lot lately...now if I could just figure out a way to get payed to do it :eyebrow:

Hey, what kind of stone do you think was used to fill the crevices in this post? I pm'd Tdog last week, but haven't heard back and I've got no patience.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1996144&postcount=6

Gard
10-19-2005, 11:13 AM
That looks like this stuff call "In Lace", it's not REALLY turquoise, but looks a lot like it. We've used it to fill on a headstock recently, and it looks pretty cool!

ArtisFallen
10-19-2005, 11:17 AM
That looks like this stuff call "In Lace", it's not REALLY turquoise, but looks a lot like it. We've used it to fill on a headstock recently, and it looks pretty cool!
i'd probably have said turqoise if i hadn't read that.

Basschair
10-19-2005, 12:03 PM
That looks like this stuff call "In Lace", it's not REALLY turquoise, but looks a lot like it. We've used it to fill on a headstock recently, and it looks pretty cool!

Thanks Gard...where did you pick it up from?

Gard
10-19-2005, 12:31 PM
We got it from Grizzly Tool, you can probably check their website or call them (don't have that info handy right now, sorry).

tjclem
10-19-2005, 12:39 PM
As you will see I can't spell it is torquoise...t

Cerb
10-19-2005, 12:51 PM
I actually remember when that was posted that he said that he used epoxy and turquoise to fill the voids. I remember, mainly, because he offered some cheap if anyone wanted to buy, and I almost did.

Hambone
10-19-2005, 03:52 PM
You can buy crushed stone for inlay from lots of different sources. Google for it.

Basschair
10-19-2005, 05:13 PM
I searched earlier using some pretty dumb keywords :rolleyes:

I just did it again using crushed, stone, and inlay, and it came right up. One of those days...

Rayle_Trail
10-19-2005, 10:32 PM
omg, I was frothing at the mouth when I saw those pics, that is the best and most tasteful idea for filling in voids ive ever seen! talk about making a cheap burl look awesome again! Im not going to be able to sleep tonight... :hyper:
Cheers for a good idea now implanted in my head!
Raz

Tdog
10-20-2005, 07:19 AM
Basschair....Sorry, I didn't see your PM....I've been spending less time online and more time with my art business.

The inlay is real turquoise which is crushed and ground with a coffee grinder to the desired coarsenes. it is then leveled in the void (which is under cut much the same way that a dentist would fill a tooth)....CA is then dripped onto the turquoise. ...Sand and then finish as you wish. I have used this technique under nitro and with oils.

If you need crushed turquoise, let me know.....I always have a good stash around.....Some Lapis or Siberian Jet too!......and much less expensive than you can get it for online!

I'm glad that you like the fill in trick!

Tdog
10-20-2005, 07:38 AM
BTW..."Inlace" seems to have an artificial look to it....at least to me. And for what you pay for it, you can get a 1/2lb of turquoise off of Ebay and make a simple crusher.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

tdog@nauticom.net

Basschair
10-20-2005, 08:44 AM
Basschair....Sorry, I didn't see your PM....I've been spending less time online and more time with my art business.

The inlay is real turquoise which is crushed and ground with a coffee grinder to the desired coarsenes. it is then leveled in the void (which is under cut much the same way that a dentist would fill a tooth)....CA is then dripped onto the turquoise. ...Sand and then finish as you wish. I have used this technique under nitro and with oils.

If you need crushed turquoise, let me know.....I always have a good stash around.....Some Lapis or Siberian Jet too!......and much less expensive than you can get it for online!

I'm glad that you like the fill in trick!

Yup, I really dig it. I've sent you and email on the turquoise. Did you use a medium vis. CA, or a more thin type?

tjclem
10-20-2005, 11:01 AM
It is sharp looking! I still have that burl top I need to get some of that from you. SWEET!

....t

Tdog
10-20-2005, 06:46 PM
Yup, I really dig it. I've sent you and email on the turquoise. Did you use a medium vis. CA, or a more thin type?

I usually use thin Ca on the initial application. Let the stone and CA cure without accelerator if at all possible...sometimes the curing will take place much too quickly with the accelerator and cause that terrible "hard foam" which really looks awful. Be patient or be sure to use a very mild accelerator.

You may find a few voids or depressions on the turquoise surface after you sand back to smooth and level....Here is where I use either a few drops of medium viscosity CA or a very powdery application of turquoise. You'll get the hang of it after you fill a few holes, but it will eat up som sandpaper. I tend to use Aluminum Oxide shop rolls.

BTW....You've Got Mail!

Dugz Ink
10-23-2005, 10:30 PM
Okay... I'm new and stupid...

What does "CA" stand for?

tjclem
10-23-2005, 10:38 PM
super glue.

Dugz Ink
10-23-2005, 10:59 PM
C A ... Super Glue

That makes sense. (clears throat)

Thanks.

PilbaraBass
10-23-2005, 11:05 PM
C A ... Super Glue

That makes sense. (clears throat)

Thanks.

CA stands for cyano-acrylate...aka "super glue"

Basschair
10-24-2005, 08:58 AM
C A ... Super Glue

That makes sense. (clears throat)

Thanks.

:D

Yeah, I think I asked the same thing a while back. I refer to the cheap stuff as "super glue" and the good stuff for these apps. as CA.

Dugz Ink
10-24-2005, 10:37 AM
Okay... that makes sense, now.

So, this technique could be used with a variety of stone... like Fluorites? (I'm thinking about Hematite. I can't afford stuff like Jade.) I understand that there would be some limitations; for instance, Tiger-Eye Quartz wouldn't look the same if you ground it up. I'm just curious what else has been tried or considered.

Basschair
10-24-2005, 10:47 AM
Okay... that makes sense, now.

So, this technique could be used with a variety of stone... like Fluorites? (I'm thinking about Hematite. I can't afford stuff like Jade.) I understand that there would be some limitations; for instance, Tiger-Eye Quartz wouldn't look the same if you ground it up. I'm just curious what else has been tried or considered.

This will be my first time with it, and I'm going to try turquoise as well as azurite, some of which is coming from this website: http://www.arizonasilhouette.com/Crushed_Stone.htm
I couldn't find anything on crushed hematite online though...

Dugz Ink
10-28-2005, 02:13 PM
I just saw a bracelet that had Tiger-Eye set into it. It was done with the same basic technique, but they used chips instead of fine sand-like crushed stone. It looked awesome!

I don't know why I never thought about doing that to a guitar.

Tdog
10-29-2005, 08:57 AM
Rhodocrisite, Lapis, Siberian Jet, Red Coral, Peridot, Malachite and just about anything else in the same hardness range as Turquoise will work well as long as the color of the stone is not just on the surface. Malachite just has a flat geen look to it....not at all like the great texture you get from Turquoise or Lapis. I use a lot of Siberian Jet, usually with something within the black field such as a very small chunk of Turquoise....the Jet acts as a backround. Rhodocrisite has a nice pink color to it, but I don't use it much. the Red Coral has a blood red look to it....kinda nice.....but not much texture. I've not used Peridot, but it has a minty-apple green look to it......Crushed Mother of Pearl or crushed abalone can also be used as an inlay material.

The chip inlay of stone has long been a technique of the Navajo with their jewellry. This is a time consuming process, but well worth the effort.