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ThePerfectBass
02-22-2006, 11:04 PM
So, you've heard about Phill Jones Bass (PJB) amps and cabs... Most of the customers we talk to immediately ask, "so what's the deal?? Are they really that good? What about the small speakers, do they deliver??"

Well, in a nutshell...YES!

It's amazing the bass response you can get out of 5 inch drivers, when they're from PJB! Even the Briefcase combo is absolutely stunning for it's size.

So, what do you want to know?? Ask away and we'll fill you in!

GSRLessard14
02-22-2006, 11:11 PM
I'd like a Briefcase. Tell me about those. :D

ThePerfectBass
02-22-2006, 11:19 PM
Awesome! Amazing little combo...it'll blow you away with how much tone you get out of it.

It's not a gig-machine, it's not loud enough to get over a set of live drums, but it would work in an all acoustic set with no drums, or possibly light congas in a smaller venue.

I've used it as a personal monitor at my church (we have a plexiglass enclosure around the drums) and it work perfect for that situation, and it's ideal for a practice amp at the house. You get great tone out of it even at very low volumes, so it's perfect if you can't crank up at the house, but you want great tone when you practice.

I primarily play a 5 string and it handles the low B great as well!

Other notable features are the 5 band EQ, built in compressor/limiter, high quality DI output and...you can load it with a motorcycle battery and take it anywhere!

We've got 6 in stock right now ready to ship also! ;)

Peace!

UtBDan
02-22-2006, 11:58 PM
how much do Phil Jones amps cost?

Robert TPB
02-23-2006, 07:46 AM
It depends on what you're looking for (just like everything else right?). :)

The PJB Briefcase is the most popular right now and it goes for $569.99.

When I first saw this combo, I honestly thought there was no way this amp could take care of business. When I heard it, I couldn't believe an amp that small could make a sound so clear and so big.

the_home
02-23-2006, 10:12 AM
+1 on the Briefcase. I play in a weekly praise band for a congregation of ...oh, about 125 in a 300+ capacity sanctuary. I use the briefcase for a monitor (for myself and the drummer) and run direct out to the house sound. The Briefcase fits this bill prefectly. The tone is very clean (I play 4 and 5 string, and the bottom end is HUGE), the eq very responsive and the built in compressor keeps the signal even.

Robert TPB
02-23-2006, 11:19 AM
In a church setting, that is an ideal setup.

pcurtain
02-24-2006, 06:24 PM
Got my PJB Briefcase two weeks ago and I'm absolutely loving it. +1 to everything said.

Anyone have suggestions on which battery to buy to put internally?

Also, where to buy said battery?

Thanks All!
--p

ThePerfectBass
02-24-2006, 07:25 PM
Anyone have suggestions on which battery to buy to put internally?

Also, where to buy said battery?

From the Breifcase Owner's Manual:
Battery Type: 12 Volt Sealed Lead Acid Battery
Capacity: 7 to 7.5 AH
Battery Size: 5.85 to 5.95 (L) x 2.51 to 2.56 (W) x 3.9 to 4 (H)
Weight 5.7 lbs.

Suppliers:
www.batteriesplus.com (http://www.batteriesplus.com) - Part #CLTXPA12-7.5F
www.batteryplanet.com (http://www.batteryplanet.com) - Part #PM1270
www.gotbatteries.com (http://www.gotbatteries.com) - Part #PS-1270F1
www.batterycountry.com (http://www.batterycountry.com) - Part #840320

Be sure to read the owners manual for proper installation etc.

Here's a link to the owner's manual in case you misplaced yours... Breifcase Owner's Manual Link (http://www.philjonesbass.com/MANUAL/PJB%20BRIEFCASE%20Owners%20Manual.pdf)

Peace!

pcurtain
02-25-2006, 02:35 AM
Thanks, James. I've had the Briefcase about two weeks. And yes, I read the manual.

Going to those web sites, and searching for those models didn't get me "Buy" links. So I'm still searching.

--p

ThePerfectBass
02-25-2006, 09:34 AM
I was able to add the proper battery to a cart to buy it online at batteryplanet, gotbatteries and batterycountry... Check it out again...the sites aren't the easiest to use, but the functionality is there...

Peace!

Schizoid75
02-27-2006, 10:21 PM
What about the big stack--8T & 24B? Voice of God or what? Most reviews of Phil Jones stuff say that the products work best together. Are people just not giving the cabs enough juice? Is it the funky impedances? Have you tried those two cabs with a monster PA amp? I'm thinking of a PLX 3602. 3600 watts into 4 ohms bridged.

Also, what's the portability like with a 24B? How are the casters? Removable? Does it have rear handles or anything? Skid plates?

Thanks!

ThePerfectBass
03-04-2006, 11:52 PM
What about the big stack--8T & 24B? Voice of God or what? Most reviews of Phil Jones stuff say that the products work best together. Are people just not giving the cabs enough juice? Is it the funky impedances? Have you tried those two cabs with a monster PA amp? I'm thinking of a PLX 3602. 3600 watts into 4 ohms bridged.

Also, what's the portability like with a 24B? How are the casters? Removable? Does it have rear handles or anything? Skid plates?

Thanks!

Not sure about the handles etc on the 24B as we haven't had that cab in yet, but the larger cabs SOUND pretty phenomenal! I've only been able to play with them at NAMM...

I will say that the larger cabs are NOT light. The casters help, but the big cabs are definnitely heavy.

The 9B and 6T however, while they're not light are compact enough to be comfortably hefted around. They sound amazing also!

As far as running a PA amp...I'm not sure how that would work out... I'm not a bg fan of using PA amps for bass rigs. I always prefer an amp built for bass guitar over a PA amp. PA amps, while they are pretty clean, are made for PA systems, not for driving bass cabs.

As with just about any manufacturer it seems that the PJB cabs work best with the PJB amps. They're made to go with each other and I would say that in general like amps/cabs sound better together than mix-matched.

However, I know players that swear by their Crest or other PA amp, and I know players that swear by running an Ampeg head with an Eden cab....and several other combos...

It's all very subjective in the end, but my feeling is that like harware works best.

Hope that helps!

Kcorren
03-22-2006, 09:36 PM
The Briefcase manual shows the frequency response
to be 40hz-15Khz.

The B string on a 5 string bass is 31hz.

Do you notice a reduction in output like

the frequency curve chart shows in the manual

below 40hz?

ThePerfectBass
03-22-2006, 10:02 PM
The Briefcase manual shows the frequency response
to be 40hz-15Khz.

The B string on a 5 string bass is 31hz.

Do you notice a reduction in output like

the frequency curve chart shows in the manual

below 40hz?

Actually it handles a low B incredibly well! It's a small amp...don't expect it to be the "everything" amp... But it's ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING how good it sounds, even the low B on your 5'er! :)

I had one of my own that I used for a practice amp at home and a personal monitor at my church gig...until I had to sell it to a customer who HAD to have one and couldn't wait for the next shipment... I love the thing!

It's not a gig machine...but as a practice amp/personal monitor, it's absolutely one of the best piecs of gear you can buy!

If you need more power, but not as much as say a 6-Pak, the new Suitcase...incredible! With the 4B extension cab that's coming out it is indeed a gig-machine!

Peace!

Alex
03-22-2006, 10:33 PM
Is it a bad idea to mix their cabs with other companies because of the impedances. For example, if I wanted to get a 6T can and put a 4 ohm 112 under it, what would the impedance be? (the 6T is 12 ohms)

Also - how loud does the 6 pak get? The website is fairly unrevealing as to how many watts it puts into the 12 ohm cab. All it says is that the head has 700w. Later it has some ploy to get the extension cabs and what not, but how loud can it get on its own? Can it compete with a loud drummer and a loud guitarist and have some headroom?

Thanks a lot

~Alex

bigbajo60
03-23-2006, 12:23 AM
Any "hands on" time with the Phil Jones standalone preamp? If so, any impressions you'd be able to pass along?

FretFree
05-10-2006, 10:00 PM
Any "hands on" time with the Phil Jones standalone preamp? If so, any impressions you'd be able to pass along?

I would like to bump for anyone's feedback on this one as well.

HELLonWheels187
05-23-2006, 07:47 PM
I hae played this amp before and i noticed two main things.

1.) Amazing tone!!! Encredible tone for such a small amp, i was in shock.

2.) The amp has no punch. I sounds great, but it just didn't deliever like a standard 100 watt amp, but hey you can't always get what you want.


I really want to get one, but I don't want to drop $600 on a practice amp so........ Is it possible to get used?

ThePerfectBass
05-23-2006, 10:43 PM
Is it a bad idea to mix their cabs with other companies because of the impedances. For example, if I wanted to get a 6T can and put a 4 ohm 112 under it, what would the impedance be? (the 6T is 12 ohms)

Also - how loud does the 6 pak get? The website is fairly unrevealing as to how many watts it puts into the 12 ohm cab. All it says is that the head has 700w. Later it has some ploy to get the extension cabs and what not, but how loud can it get on its own? Can it compete with a loud drummer and a loud guitarist and have some headroom?

Thanks a lot

~Alex

Sorry for the delay in replying to this thread!

I'm not sure what the resulting impedance would be with a 12 ohm cab and a 4 ohm as I forget the formulas... But I'm not sure that I'd go with that mix. An 8 ohm bottom cab might be safer. Next time I chat with Phil I'll ask him about that combo...

The 6P gets pretty loud! When you add the 9B extension cab, it's loud enough for just about any situation short of a large arena.

I've been in the loud rock band before and it's plenty enough to get over a loud drummer and guitarist!

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
05-23-2006, 10:44 PM
I would like to bump for anyone's feedback on this one as well.

I haven't used the preamp and I don't think PJB is actually producing it in quantity yet. We're hoping that they have that unit in production for the beginning of next year!

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
05-23-2006, 10:49 PM
I hae played this amp before and i noticed two main things.

1.) Amazing tone!!! Encredible tone for such a small amp, i was in shock.

2.) The amp has no punch. I sounds great, but it just didn't deliever like a standard 100 watt amp, but hey you can't always get what you want.


I really want to get one, but I don't want to drop $600 on a practice amp so........ Is it possible to get used?

I have to respectfully disagree with the no punch comment... ;) It's definitley not overly midsy, but with the 5 band EQ you can dial in a myriad of tones!

We don't have any used Briefcases in stock, but we do have new ones. Best bet to find a used one is to monitor Ebay and see if anything pops up. Most of the folks that buy PJB stick with it!

Peace!

Gard
05-24-2006, 09:14 AM
I have to respectfully disagree with the no punch comment... ;) It's definitley not overly midsy, but with the 5 band EQ you can dial in a myriad of tones!

We don't have any used Briefcases in stock, but we do have new ones. Best bet to find a used one is to monitor Ebay and see if anything pops up. Most of the folks that buy PJB stick with it!

Peace!

+1 on the "punch factor", I am totally amazed by what this little guy will do!

Mine (one of the "fancy" blue flame maple ones :cool: ) sits on my desk at the Roscoe shop and is the primary test amp. Every Roscoe bass that leaves the shop gets plugged into my Briefcase for a final checkout.

Steve York
05-25-2006, 05:18 PM
I own two Briefcases. I am currently using them for gigs in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico - mostly Jazz, Latin & Latin Jazz. I love these amps! I play fretless Rob Allen basses ( a Deep 5 and an MB2 with a Deep 5 neck), and the briefcase really brings out the upright quality in the sound. I am usually working with a conga player and acoustic level instruments and it has sufficient volume for this. It also helps a lot that the construction here is all stone and glass - no carpet or wood, so I have the advantage of live acoustics. In fact for some gigs my next smallest amp, a GK MB150E, is simply too loud. When things get too loud for the Briefcase ( usually the audience!) I simply hook it up to the PA. The D/I out is excellent. The tone on the Rob Allens helped by the compression. I do not usually like compression but it really helps with the fretless. My fretted basses are Lakland 55-94's. One is strung with roundwounds and it has a great modern sound through the Briefcase. The amp makes old strings sound new! My other Lakland is strung with LaBella black nylon strings. The punch from this bass is strong enough to crap out the Briefcase unless I play with a really light touch.
As far as punch goes, I can hear plenty of punch close to the amp, but this drops off quickly further from the amp. This is consistent with the comments in the Owner's manual. I recently had a bass player who I respect tell me that from about 2 feet away in the audience the bass was clear with a great tone but totally lacking in punch. The solution is just to run a little in the PA although I hate to do this in a small venue. I have not yet tried two Briefcases together on a gig but they sound grest at home. The problem is that if I am going to carry a total of 56lb's to the gig, plus have to deal with extra cables, I am better off just taking a little bigger rig, such as my Acoustic Image head plus a Bergantino HT 112.
I am somewhat tempted by a Suitcase for the tone factor at 48lbs, but I a little put off by the bulk, especially as I would have to fly from the US to Mexico with it. I can fit a Bergantino HT 112 in a large SKB mic case for easy shipping but the Suitcase is bigger. I would love to read some reports on the Suitcase though!
I had some minor problems with my Briefcases. One was user error - I accidentally connected it wrong on a dark and cramped stage. Also I lost a battery terminal. The service from Phil was fantastic. He repaired and replaced at no charge and both Phil and Tim Jones were great about communication! One strange thing though. The voltage in Mexico is erratic, often reaching 140 volts. One of my Briefcases doesn' t seem to mind, but I need a voltage regulator to run the other ( I should make this my battery amp). On gthe whole I love this amp.

ThePerfectBass
05-25-2006, 05:48 PM
The Suitcase is AWESOME! And we have at least 4 in stock right now!

I will be getting one soon to use at my church, and I will most likely add the 4B extension to it...just because I can! :)

Peace!

Steve York
05-25-2006, 09:36 PM
I wonder how the Suitcase compares in sound to two Briefcases. I just tried linking my two Briefcases. More volume but not much more punch or low end. By the way, the sound was much better with the compression off on both amps.
At 58 years old I find anything over 40lbs to be more than I want to handle before a gig. The Suitcase is 49lbs, but I would much prefer to haul two 28lb amps up stairs than one 49lb amp!
I A/B'd two Briefcaes against one of my favourite rigs which is a Bergantino HT112 with an Acoustic Image Focus 1 head. There's no comparison - the AI/Berg combo blows away the double Briefcase set up for punch, & low end, headroom and volume and has the same amount of "class".It's 300 watts vs 100watts. Berg HT112 38lbs + AI 4lbs = 42lbs. This is within my weight range!
James, if you're sitting around your store with too much time on your hands, perhaps you could compare the Suitcase to two Briefcases and enlighten us! For now I will just use my Briefcase for gigs where the Berg/AI is just too big!
By the way, for the weight concious bassist, my biggest-bang-for-the -lb rig right now is a GK MB112 extension cab with an AI Focus head. Total weight 16lbs! Lots of punch - problem is no high end. This rig can be heard on some live videos at www.thecelebrators.com/videos.htm

ThePerfectBass
05-25-2006, 10:59 PM
I don't have a lot of "sitting around doing nothing" time these days... :) But, that may be a worth while comparison. I've never linked up 2 Briefcases...

I have played the Briefcase and the Suitcase pretty extensively and both in a live situation. By far, the Suitcase is more suited towards a gig environment. It's not something that will power a larger room, but when you add the 4B to it, it becomes about all the amp/cab that I would need for a gig.

By itself, the Suitcase can get over drums and sounds amazing, but leaves me wanting a little bit of headroom. But again, that's where the 4B comes in and kicks butt!

This is coming from a guy who's used to a Glockenklang 410 or 212 and Soul Top... So stepping down in size certainly is a difficult transition for me. But the Suitcase and 4B delivers!

The Briefcase is awesome for practice and even as a personal monitor at my current church gig! But for what I do, the Suitcase is the right choice for my situation.

On a side note... Both the Suitcase and Briefcase sound AMAZING with an acoustic guitar plugged in! Really incredible little amps!

If I get a chance to A/B dual Briefcases to the Suitcase, I'll post the results!

Peace!

Steve York
05-26-2006, 12:01 AM
On a side note... Both the Suitcase and Briefcase sound AMAZING with an acoustic guitar plugged in! Really incredible little amps!

If I get a chance to A/B dual Briefcases to the Suitcase, I'll post the results!

Thanks ! There's a fine jazz guitarist I work with sometimes who loves to play through the Briefcase. It is a wonderful jazz guitar amp - He told me the sound of the amp " gives him something to aspire to"!

ThePerfectBass
05-26-2006, 07:38 AM
Thanks ! There's a fine jazz guitarist I work with sometimes who loves to play through the Briefcase. It is a wonderful jazz guitar amp - He told me the sound of the amp " gives him something to aspire to"!

Phil's actually putting together a guitarists version of the Briefcase, but I'm not sure when it'll be ready...

Steve York
05-26-2006, 02:07 PM
Phil's actually putting together a guitarists version of the Briefcase, but I'm not sure when it'll be ready...
It's on his website. It's called The Handbag.

ThePerfectBass
05-26-2006, 10:45 PM
It's on his website. It's called The Handbag.

Yeah, we've been trying to work with them to find a new name for it... :)

I don't believe it's in production yet, but we have played the prototype and was impressed!

HELLonWheels187
05-27-2006, 12:57 AM
What advantages does the briefcase have over the Fender Bassman 100. They weight about the same(the fender is a little lighter) they have the same amount of power....

s.m.80808
06-10-2006, 11:25 AM
Sorry for the delay in replying to this thread!

I'm not sure what the resulting impedance would be with a 12 ohm cab and a 4 ohm as I forget the formulas... But I'm not sure that I'd go with that mix. An 8 ohm bottom cab might be safer. Next time I chat with Phil I'll ask him about that combo...

The 6P gets pretty loud! When you add the 9B extension cab, it's loud enough for just about any situation short of a large arena.

I've been in the loud rock band before and it's plenty enough to get over a loud drummer and guitarist!

Peace!


I think it would be 3 ohms with a 4 ohm cab, and 4.8 ohms with a 8 ohm cab.

ElBajista
06-22-2006, 07:10 PM
It's on his website. It's called The Handbag.

Ha! That's hilarious! :D

That made my day.


When I have more money to spend on my rig, I will definitely consider these amps. I find the originality and unique character to be quite intriguing. I can't wait to try one out.

Gard
06-22-2006, 08:48 PM
What advantages does the briefcase have over the Fender Bassman 100. They weight about the same(the fender is a little lighter) they have the same amount of power....

The Bassman 100 is a TOY, the Briefcase is an actual working musician's amp. Tonally, there IS no comparison, however, there is also a pretty steep difference in price - but you get what you pay for, most of the time.

ThePerfectBass
06-22-2006, 10:10 PM
Suitcase in function and volume compared to some combos more people might be familiar with, say the Scout 12 ?

When is the extension cab for Suitacase due ?

1 vote for a 1u Bass Buddy or for the full preamp to be available. Nevermind guitar gear, this is more important.

What other products might we see from PJB in the future?

Thanks.

I'd love to see them make the full preamp also, but that's a while away from what Phil and I have talked about...

The 4B extension for the Suitcase should be out in the next 2 months. We're hoping to have a healthy stock of them here as soon as they're available! I've heard the Suitcase with the 4B and it absolutely kills! I just picked up a Suitcase for myself and plan on adding the 4B as soon as it's available!

In the future...well...there's talk about using Neo speakers in the Briefcase, Suitcase, 4B and Six-Pak in the near future! So take the tone that you're used to and the already compact size and relatively low weight and shave off a few pounds... How sweet it will be! :)

The Neo speakers are still in the prototype stage though and no release date is set. But you can put money on it that TPB will be the first to have the new goods in stock!

Peace!

tombowlus
06-26-2006, 11:44 PM
I'm beginning to rekindle my PJB love! In addition to my Briefcase (which I really like), I have a 6T and 9B on their way. :bassist: :D

Sir Funkalot
06-30-2006, 11:28 PM
Here is the protype. As a guitar amp it is way louder than the Briefcase but does not have the low end extension.
It weighs only 12 pounds (works on any voltage worldwide) and has our own neodymium speakers
It is a very clean sound so it is more suited to acoustic intrument amplification.
Andrea Young (a great violinist www.andrea-young.com) has been beta testing it for me. She tells me she often gets told to turn down because it is so loud.

tombowlus
07-03-2006, 08:05 AM
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37348&d=1151727920

I would never ask her to turn down! ;)

tZer
07-03-2006, 08:20 AM
Here is the protype. As a guitar amp it is way louder than the Briefcase but does not have the low end extension.
It weighs only 12 pounds (works on any voltage worldwide) and has our own neodymium speakers
It is a very clean sound so it is more suited to acoustic intrument amplification.
Andrea Young (a great violinist www.andrea-young.com) has been beta testing it for me. She tells me she often gets told to turn down because it is so loud.

I just watched her yesterday afternoon at Frontier Park in St. Charles with Candy Coburn and she sounded killer! The bass player (David Karns - also my teacher) was also using PJB gear - I believe is was the 6Tx9B enclosure - but it had a HUGE sound!

The band was in a pavillion, so in close in close a lot of the the stage volume was balling up and adding a significant 'rumble' to the overall sound - but when you stepped back about 20 feet behind the sound man (say 100 feet away from the stage), everything sounded fantastic.

Andrea's violin was crystal clear and she really knows how to turn a phrase!

David's Warrior thru the PJB rig was crystal clear, punchy, funky, driving - a really well-rounded overall bass sound. He did some slapping, some tapping, stomped on a distortion box (ala 'Reneagedes of Funk Funk' by Rage Against the Machine) - and some straight-up, country bass picking. It all sounded great.

Nick Bassman
07-11-2006, 08:50 AM
Hi James, just a quick question about the Suitcase. I read in the online manual that it needs contact with the floor for punchy response. Is that your experience ? My reason for asking is I like to have some speakers at ear level and the suitcase on the floor would negate that. Thanks for your help. Cheers Nick

ThePerfectBass
07-11-2006, 10:39 AM
Hi James, just a quick question about the Suitcase. I read in the online manual that it needs contact with the floor for punchy response. Is that your experience ? My reason for asking is I like to have some speakers at ear level and the suitcase on the floor would negate that. Thanks for your help. Cheers Nick

I find that the Suitcase does sound best flat on the floor. If it's pointing at your head at ear level, I'm sure it'd sound fine also...but...

My only gig at this point in my life is at church. It's a controlled environment, so the Suitcase is perfect and I plan on adding the 4B as soon as it's available.

I have experimented with kicking the Suitcase back, but never at ear level...I just don't have anything to put it on that high that I would be able to work with at my church, so I can't really say that it would sound bad or good like that.

Based on my experience kicking it back and such, the amp would still sound better on the floor. But I would not go so far as to say it wouldn't sound good at ear level.

When I point it at my head on the floor, I hear more definition and highs, and actually sounds pretty good to me if I'm playing solo... But with a full band, it changes everything and I wouldn't think about playing with the full band without it flat on the floor. It just doesn't punch through the mix as well...

The Suitcase is awesome! And I mean that... Your jaw drops with awe when you hear this stuff... :)

ThePerfectBass
07-17-2006, 11:27 PM
The 4B is on the PJB site, has been for a few days.

Any idea what it'll cost?

Hi SMASH, I think it'll be in the 499-599 range... We don't have an exact price on it as it's not oficially released for sale just yet. However, we will be getting some of the first (if not THE first) available units.

I heard the Suitcase with the 4B at NAMM in January and when those 2 pieces are combined, it's an AMAZING combo! In fact, I've purchased a Suitcase for myself and as soon as we have some spare 4B's available...I'll be picking one of them up as well!

Great stuff! :)

big_rigg69
07-19-2006, 02:51 AM
Has anyone had experience with using the m-500 or for that matter the m-1000 with other brands of cabinets? Highly interested in replacing my slowly dying peavery mark VIII head. Currently playing a ampeg 4 ohm svt410hlf and an ampeg 8 ohm svt410e with a cirrus 5 string.

Played the six pack and was highly impressed with the tone shaping abilities. Dealer did not have a head to try.
thanks in advance
Jason

ThePerfectBass
07-19-2006, 08:07 AM
Has anyone had experience with using the m-500 or for that matter the m-1000 with other brands of cabinets? Highly interested in replacing my slowly dying peavery mark VIII head. Currently playing a ampeg 4 ohm svt410hlf and an ampeg 8 ohm svt410e with a cirrus 5 string.

Played the six pack and was highly impressed with the tone shaping abilities. Dealer did not have a head to try.
thanks in advance
Jason

Hi Jason,
Atually the M1000 is not in production. I believe that Phil would like to produce that amp at some point, but it's not commercially available at this time.

If you've played the 6pac, then you have played the M-500! The 6pac is basically a 6 speaker cab with a slot for the M-500 to ride in...

As you noticed the tone shaping ability of that amp is crazy... What's really insane is it's power handling ability. We've run the 16B, 8T AND 9B off of a single M-500 and it powered them all at one time just fine! That amp really puts out some juice!

Peace!

jk_bass
07-26-2006, 01:11 AM
Anybody ever tried distortion or other effects through a Briefcase? I like to play different styles (Sheehan, Jaco, Jeff Berlin, Cliff Burton..etc) How versatile is it?

Thanks.

tombowlus
07-26-2006, 09:50 AM
Anybody ever tried distortion or other effects through a Briefcase? I like to play different styles (Sheehan, Jaco, Jeff Berlin, Cliff Burton..etc) How versatile is it?

Thanks.

Actually, it works very well in this role. I have an Akai UniBass, and the Briefcase is perhaps one of the best sounding rigs of any size that I have tried for the distorted, octave up channel. :bassist:

jk_bass
07-28-2006, 01:26 AM
Thanks Tom and Smash :)

BassGreaser
07-29-2006, 01:23 AM
I like the big folding horn PJB cab....could I run that with my Bassman 135 (100watt all tube head)?

ThePerfectBass
07-29-2006, 08:00 AM
I like the big folding horn PJB cab....could I run that with my Bassman 135 (100watt all tube head)?

I'm sure you could, although I haven't plugged any non-PJB amps through the PJB cabs. So I'm not sure how it would react. 100 watts also sounds a bit low powered for the PJB cabs. Each of the Pirranha drivers are rated at 100watts...

Peace!

BassGreaser
07-29-2006, 09:22 AM
anyone know how big his 16H cab is?

tombowlus
07-29-2006, 11:41 AM
I'm sure you could, although I haven't plugged any non-PJB amps through the PJB cabs. So I'm not sure how it would react. 100 watts also sounds a bit low powered for the PJB cabs. Each of the Pirranha drivers are rated at 100watts...

Peace!

I am not sure about what it takes to really get the bigger cabs moving, but I find that the 6T/9B sound incredible with tube heads! :bassist:

Tom.

ThePerfectBass
07-29-2006, 10:25 PM
I am not sure about what it takes to really get the bigger cabs moving, but I find that the 6T/9B sound incredible with tube heads! :bassist:

Tom.

The M500 head can power a 16B and 8T easily and Phil tells me that it can power more than one of the 24B cabs, which sounds crazy as the head is rated at 720 watts at 2 ohms. But Phil is the man! If he says it works...it does!

Anyway, I'd guess that with an amp from another manufacturer you'd want at least 500 watts to really drive more than one of the larger cabs...

We need to do some testing in the shop with Glockenklang, Eden and GK heads on the PJB cabs and see what happens... Sounds like we have some "work" to do! :)

BassGreaser
07-29-2006, 11:59 PM
James how big is the 16H cab?

Sir Funkalot
07-30-2006, 04:28 PM
The PJB 16H cab is 47 inch high (with casters 51inch) 24 1/2 inches wide and 27 1/2 inches deep. It weighs about 275 pounds.YES. It is large and heavy but no other speaker cab I am aware of can play as loud or as deep at the same time being super clean.

BassGreaser
07-30-2006, 06:44 PM
WOW..I just wish I could run that cab with my Bassman 135:(

ThePerfectBass
07-30-2006, 06:45 PM
WOW..I just wish I could run that cab with my Bassman 135:(

Take a trip to Baton Rouge and you can! :)

big_rigg69
08-01-2006, 12:20 AM
Me, I guess. The M-500 is still very new to me, but I have been and will be using it with non-PJB cabs.

So far so good. Awesome amp, best build I've seen. Quietest fan of that size I've heard. Amazing amounts of headroom.

It's not unlike the old Peavey heads in that it's solid, heavy, got metal parts (I think they'd gone to plastic by the time the Mark VIII was out though, right?), and runs with little to no noise but packs a big wallop can do 2 Ohms.

Perfectbass.com has a trial period I think.

I really need to drag my stuff down to Fazio's in STL then and give a day to play through if he has one in stock...
and i think i got one of the older mark VIII's then....its like trucking around a tank...has all metal appointments. Starting to make new noises every time i plug it in....its like christmas morning!

saxnbass
10-04-2006, 09:47 AM
Here are some Qs I have about the PJB amps.

What kind of battery does the Briefcase use? How hard is it to install and how long does the battery last?
Does the suitcase have a battery option? How much does the suitcase cost and what would be the benefit of having a suitcase over a briefcase?

Thanks a lot.

Sir Funkalot
10-04-2006, 10:09 AM
What kind of battery does the Briefcase use?
It is a lead acid type 12 volts capacity 7-7.5 AH (ampere /hour)

How hard is it to install and how long does the battery last?
It depends on how loud you are playing but generally 1-3 hours

Does the suitcase have a battery option?
No because it is simply a much more powerful amplifier. As battery capable of doing that kind of work would be big and heavy maybe over 50 pounds in weight!

How much does the suitcase cost and what would be the benefit of having a suitcase over a briefcase?
The Suitcase is $1249.00. It has 2 channels instead of one on the Briefcase It also has over 3 times the power output allowing and extension speaker to be used.. Basic difference is the Suitcase is more suitable for gigging whereas the briefcase is an ideal studio or practice amp.

Check out these videos posted by two PJB users on “youtube”. One is the briefcase the other the suitcase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqsztUt05Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abs-Awosogk

saxnbass
10-04-2006, 10:11 AM
What kind of battery does the Briefcase use?
It is a lead acid type 12 volts capacity 7-7.5 AH (ampere /hour)


Is there a common name for that?

ThePerfectBass
10-04-2006, 10:15 AM
Here are some Qs I have about the PJB amps.

What kind of battery does the Briefcase use? How hard is it to install and how long does the battery last?
Does the suitcase have a battery option? How much does the suitcase cost and what would be the benefit of having a suitcase over a briefcase?

Thanks a lot.

I posted some info on the battery on this thread earlier...you can find that on the first page of posts on this thread.

The quick answer is that it's pretty easy...2 terminals and a screwdriver should be all you need to hook up the battery. Should only take a few minutes. The battery type is a motorcycle battery and you can get them at most any auto parts store.

I'm not sure how long the battery would last as I've never actually tried to play the briefcase with one...

The Suitcase does not have a battery compartment. But yes, there are specific advantages over the Briefcase. But the advantages are application specific. In other words, depending on your application, one might better suit you over the other.

The Suitcase is obviously bigger, more speakers...so if you need more volume than the Briefcase offers, the Suitcase is the way to go. In addition, PJB now offers the 4B extension cab. With the 4B, the Suitcase is pretty amazing and is powerful enough for most small to medium size gigs.

The Briefcase is not really a giggable amp... It's more of a practice amp, or personal monitor. I used one at church or a while and it worked great in that environment where low stage volume was a requirement and all I really needed to do was monitor myself. But I wouldn't use it in a gig situation other than that, or possibly in an acoustic environment with no percussion.

The Suitcase on the other hand is well worthy of giggage! Not only that, but it offers 2 complete preamps, so on a smaller acoustic gig, you could have your bass and a guitar plugged in to the Suitcase and be perfectly fine. Need more volume?? Add the 4B and Rock on!

The Suitcase is $1,149.95 and can be ordered online at our site www.ThePerfectBass.com. We have them in stock and reaady to ship. We also have a few 4B extension cabs available, but I don't think they're on the site yet...you'd have to call us to get the 4B.

Hope that helps!

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
10-04-2006, 10:18 AM
Thanks Phil! :)

Sir Funkalot
10-04-2006, 10:21 AM
Is there a common name for that?
You can get this battery at Radio Shack or Batteries Plus. Just give them the specs. It costs about $25.00

saxnbass
10-04-2006, 10:25 AM
Is there a common name for that?
You can get this battery at Radio Shack or Batteries Plus. Just give them the specs. It costs about $25.00

Thanks, but we don't have Radio Shack and/or Batteries Plus in Europe. :smug:

tombowlus
10-04-2006, 10:27 AM
Thanks, but we don't have Radio Shack and/or Batteries Plus in Europe. :smug:

I may be wrong, but I think that type of battery is sometimes referred to as a 12v "gel cell" battery. Just get the right size/specs, though, and you will be all set. It is a breeze to install.

Tom.

saxnbass
10-04-2006, 10:29 AM
Awesome thanks guys. Will probably a while till I get a briefcase, but it is on my list, especially now.

BassGreaser
10-04-2006, 07:28 PM
I would love to own two of those 4B cabs!:D

Professor X
10-09-2006, 05:36 PM
Just curious... are there any plans for a Briefcase addon speaker? maybe with an additional 2 5's that you work with the internal speakers still connected.

I am currently saving for a Briefcase (hopefully should have it before Xmas) and would love to know if this is planned (as it would be an AWESOME addon)
:cheers:

tombowlus
10-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Just curious... are there any plans for a Briefcase addon speaker? maybe with an additional 2 5's that you work with the internal speakers still connected.

I am currently saving for a Briefcase (hopefully should have it before Xmas) and would love to know if this is planned (as it would be an AWESOME addon)
:cheers:

Phil has several very cool products to debut at NAMM. :D

Professor X
10-09-2006, 09:06 PM
Phil has several very cool products to debut at NAMM. :D

stop your teasing tom!!!!:hmm:

ThePerfectBass
10-09-2006, 09:32 PM
I haven't heard anything about an extension cab for the Briefcase... Personally, I'd like to see the M1000 go to production! :)

coyoteboy
10-16-2006, 09:35 PM
I thought I saw mention or a pic somewhere of a 12B available in either 6 or 12 ohms to go with either the 4 wide series or the 3 wide. Did it make it past the paper stage?

If/when the neo series cabs come out, I will be in serious financial trouble.

ThePerfectBass
10-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Haven't heard of a 12b... Maybe Phil can jump in on that question.

I've heard some talk about neo speakers for the Suitcase, nothing else though.

Sir Funkalot
10-16-2006, 09:54 PM
We had planned to do a 12B cab but we found that our more popular cabs are the ones with less drivers. The 4B 6T and 9B are the most popular ones we make, probably because there are reasonably lightweight.
Now that we have developed a lightweight neodymium 5 inch driver we may introduce the 12B next year.

tombowlus
10-17-2006, 10:15 AM
Just got my P1!!!

Woot! :hyper::hyper::hyper:

smperry
10-17-2006, 11:17 AM
Mine arrives Thursday. :)

Marshall

Brandt@TPB
10-17-2006, 12:41 PM
We got our P-1’s in and they are amazing, PJB has done it again! Give us a call or go online at The Perfect Bass (http://www.theperfectbass.com) and check them out.

coyoteboy
10-17-2006, 09:02 PM
Mr Bourque,

have you plugged the M-500 into one of the 4B extensions? Seems the wattage output would be a good match for one, two, (or three) of the 4B's.

also, are the drivers used in the briefcase and suitcase the same as the ones in the larger enclosures? I thought I read when the Briefcase first appeared that they were a different design, perhaps to compensate for decrease in low end from fewer speakers coupling.

ThePerfectBass
10-18-2006, 01:28 AM
Mr Bourque,

have you plugged the M-500 into one of the 4B extensions? Seems the wattage output would be a good match for one, two, (or three) of the 4B's.

also, are the drivers used in the briefcase and suitcase the same as the ones in the larger enclosures? I thought I read when the Briefcase first appeared that they were a different design, perhaps to compensate for decrease in low end from fewer speakers coupling.

I see this is for Brandt, but I thought I'd chime in on it...

I haven't hooked the 4B into the M-500 and I'd probably want to check with Phil on that before we go blowing a 4B (or 2)... :) The M-500 is a powerful amp and peaks at 700watts. I'm not sure what the output would be with the 4B...

On the drivers, from what I understand, the Briefcase and Suitcase drivers are a slightly different design than the drivers in the larger cabs. I'm don't know the technical reason for this, but I would guess that it has something to do with the lower power output of the Briefcase and Suitcase. They are 100 and 300 watts respectively. So my guess is that Phil has optimized the speakers for the weaker amps.

We'll try to follow up on some of these questions with Phil and make some additional posts...

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
10-19-2006, 12:36 AM
Mr Bourque,

have you plugged the M-500 into one of the 4B extensions? Seems the wattage output would be a good match for one, two, (or three) of the 4B's.

also, are the drivers used in the briefcase and suitcase the same as the ones in the larger enclosures? I thought I read when the Briefcase first appeared that they were a different design, perhaps to compensate for decrease in low end from fewer speakers coupling.

I talked with Phil about this today... He assures us that it's totally fine to use the M500 with the 4B and knows of at least one player who owns 4 x 4B cabs and runs them with the M500. Sounds like it's almost the ultimate in scalable/portable rigs!

We also talked a bit about the differences in the drivers. Basically the drivers in the Briefcase, Suitcase and 4B have a little more travel in them than the drivers in the larger cabs.

We didn't get too deep with that, but I'm pretty sure it's to compensate for the smaller cab and lower power of the amp that's in those combos.

Bottom line is that they all sound pretty amazing... Speaking of, Brandt and I took a P-1 for a test drive today. It's an amazing sounding pre! VERY hi-fi, but suprisingly warm and very responsive! It's a great preamp and we are looking forward to hearing some of our customer's comments here once we've sold a few!

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
10-19-2006, 01:15 AM
I got mine today - serial number 000001 !! - but haven't had a chance to play it yet. I'm expecting it to sound exactly M-500 / Buddy-like, and by your description it does. Is that how you heard it?

Well, the controls are the same as far as EQ. But since I ran it through a Glockenklang Bass Aart Classic Top and bypassed the onboard pre of the Glock, it had a different character than the M500.

I would think that if I ran it through the M500 power, it'd have a very similar character. But, I think the beauty of the P-1 is being able to put it through power amps from other manufacturers.

It was SCHWEEEEET through the Glock! Intoxicating would be a good word for it... :)

coyoteboy
10-23-2006, 10:43 PM
... damn GAS...

It seems that Phil has a couple 'lines' of speakers, and they all add up nice with his amp(s) in terms of impedence and that's great, but I notice that there are no 4 ohm enclosures, which would be nice to pull more power from his mono 2 ohm capable heads. I have no personal experience with his stuff (yet) and it's entirely probable that it kills as is pushing 280 or 420, out of the M-500, but I'm picturing two 4 ohm 8B cabs, shaped like the 9B with a round front port where the center driver would be. A little lighter, a little more compact w/o the slot port, and 2 ohms from the M-500.

I'm just thinking out loud, a little bored at work (don't tell...), but I'd find a way to buy those cabs and that amp if they had neo drivers!

ThePerfectBass
10-23-2006, 10:46 PM
I'm just thinking out loud, a little bored at work (don't tell...), but I'd find a way to buy those cabs and that amp if they had neo drivers!

Keep an eye out Coyoteboy... We might just start seeing some neo drivers sometime next year in the Suitcase and 4B!

Peace!

mcrracer
11-02-2006, 12:03 AM
I'm Gasssinnnngggg for a Phil Jones setup!!!!!!!
Does anyone know if the PJB S-1000 power amp is available? If so how much? One website said it is the perfevt match for the PJ1 preamo.
1400watts!!!!Whoa.
Thanks in advance.

tombowlus
11-02-2006, 08:49 AM
I just wanted to chime in and state that after spending some more time with my P-1, I believe it has unseated my Millennia TD-1 as the "top dawg" in my preamp heap. :cool:

What a fantastic pre!!! :hyper:

BassGreaser
11-02-2006, 09:22 AM
I still want two of those 4x4 cabs to run with my GK 800RB:hyper:

Brandt@TPB
11-03-2006, 01:04 PM
We have several 4B’s in stock! These cabs are great down to 25hz and they only weight 39 lbs, it’s a dream come true!

Psychicpet
11-03-2006, 01:14 PM
I'm hopping in just to keep up on this thread but also as a fellow PJB dealer(in Canada though) as well as a full PJB convert! I love the stuff.
Phil's built some kooky products! :D

If you want to kind of hear the Bass Buddy in action go here:

Psychicpet (http://www.myspace.com/psychicpet)
and listen to BBBJP , it's me going into the Bass Buddy then straight into ProTools... no eq in ProTools just eq'ing done on the 'Buddy

&

my Bass Buddy vid here... @ YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVma-7GrWU)


cheers!

pete

ThePerfectBass
11-03-2006, 02:18 PM
I'm hopping in just to keep up on this thread but also as a fellow PJB dealer(in Canada though) as well as a full PJB convert! I love the stuff.
Phil's built some kooky products! :D

If you want to kind of hear the Bass Buddy in action go here:

Psychicpet (http://www.myspace.com/psychicpet)
and listen to BBBJP , it's me going into the Bass Buddy then straight into ProTools... no eq in ProTools just eq'ing done on the 'Buddy

&

my Bass Buddy vid here... @ YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVma-7GrWU)


cheers!

pete

Sweet review Pete! :) You should check out our Podcast!

zadillo
12-20-2006, 04:48 PM
How would you say the PJB Briefcase compares to the GK Microbass III? It seems like these would be two fairly strong "competitors" in terms of purpose and price range and size.

ThePerfectBass
12-20-2006, 09:29 PM
The Briefcase and Microbass III are 2 very different amps... I actually like the GK a lot, and it's actually one of my favorite of the GK line.

However, the PJB is ultra-clean compared to the GK. It's just got a very pure, transparent tone that I don't think is fair to compare to the GK.

But, the GK seems to produce more volume based on my recollection. I'd have to verify that in the store sometime (we carry both), but my perception is that the GK is louder. So if you're looking for something a little louder, but the same size, the GK might be the way to go.

The GK is also expandable with the 112 extension for the Microbass combo. The Briefcase is not. I think that the GK was built more for a gig situation than the Briefcase also...but that doesn't make it better.

If you want giggable volume from PJB, you need to look at the Suitcase or better.

Bottom line is that there are very clear distinctions between the 2 products and there is a use for each. Depending on what's important to you as a player will determine which is better FOR YOU.

I can't say that one is fundamentally better as that would only be my opinion based on my personal preferences...

Hope that helps!

zadillo
12-20-2006, 09:51 PM
Thanks. I think I might actually be leaning towards the Suitcase. I know it costs more, but it sounds like it is also a bit more versatile as well, while also still being fairly compact all things being equal.

tonequixote
01-22-2007, 11:21 PM
Okay guys NAMM 2007 is in the rear view mirror. I hope you all enjoyed yourselves.

Now let the rest of us in on the goods. Pics, impressions, whatever morsel you can post for the hungry masses. Thanks.

ThePerfectBass
01-23-2007, 09:25 AM
As far as PJB new products go, there was quite a bit to see!

The new Flight Case BG-150 Combo is AMAZING! At 24 pounds, you basically have a stand-alone combo that sits right between the Suitcase and Briefcase Combos. It's the first application of the new Neo drivers as well, and they sound phenomenal!

The other big deal from PJB this year is the new Neo cabs! They come in 6B, 8B and 12B configurations and are 46, 54, & 68 pounds respectively. Oh, and yeah...they sound incredible! :) These cabs I think may just push PJB into mainstream. They actually have more of a traditional tone to them, I haven't put my finger on it yet, but they just seemed a little more "familiar" for lack of a better word...

In addition, they have sweet casters and a telescopic handle for easy transport. So now you have a SMOKIN' PJB cab to go with your M500 that doesn't feel like a load o bricks! :)

Both the Flight Case and Neo cabs should be ready sometime in May/June from what we understand and yes, we will be on top of the list!

Other really exciting stuff from PJB...the M-5000 power amp and the D-400 Digital Amplifier... The D-400 weighs only 6.6 pounds and puts out a whopping 375 watts at 4 ohms!

The M-5000 is rated at 3200 watts max output...need I say more? Pretty incredible stuff, but we don't have production dates on the D-400 and M-5000 yet...

That's the skinny from the PJB booth! Amazing stuff and everything we expected from Phil! We look forward to bringing this exciting new gear to market!

Peace!

tonequixote
01-23-2007, 10:32 AM
Thanks for the info.

I just saw a pic of the PJB booth at NAMM in Tom's thread and his intial impressions would seem to be similar to yours.

I eagerly look forward to these new products release and further details and comparisons to his already outstanding product line.:hyper:

main_sale
02-03-2007, 12:06 PM
Any more poop on the D-400? I'm real interested in that!

ThePerfectBass
02-03-2007, 12:30 PM
The D-400 looked very cool! Didn't get to hear much of it at the show as the neo cabs kind of stole the attention... But it looks to be a really cool piece once it gets into normal production.

Specs are:
2 Individual Channels
Active/Passive Input
Compressor/Limiter
5 Band EQ on Each Channel
Headphone Out
Balanced Line Out
Preamp Out
Speakon Out
250 watts/8 ohms
375 watts/4 ohms
11 x 10 x 3 inches
6.6 lbs.

And it looks cool with the black finish... :)

Peace!

Jazzdogg
04-29-2007, 03:45 PM
I am looking for a slant-fronted speaker I can place on top of my Dr Bass 2260 to direct the mid and high frequencies toward my ears to better enable me to hear my intonation without turning the volume up too high.

The PJB 6T looks like it would be ideal. Can anyone here provide feedback or recommendations based on first-hand experience with the 6T?

If it makes any difference, I can choose to drive my cabs with either a Carvin B1500 or a Yamaha PB-1 through a QSC PLX 3002.

Thanks!

ThePerfectBass
04-30-2007, 12:37 PM
The 6T is an awesome cab! With the 9B and M500 head it's probably one of the best rigs available...

It's not lightweight, but it's not hard to move since it has a relatively small footprint. Sound is phenomenal on all PJB cabs, the 6T is no exception!

As far as how it will sound in your particular rig, I can't really say... We have experience with PJB cabs running with other PJB cabs and PJB amps. I have run an Eden 550 through them and it sounded sweet also, but to try every possible combination of heads/cabs would be next to impossible...

Maybe one of our PJB customers that runs a non-PJB head can comment on that. I can't imagine it NOT sounding good...and the slant on the 6T will help with directing the output at your head... :)

Peace!

Psychicpet
04-30-2007, 12:44 PM
Sometimes when I need some "washy" low end on stage I'll put an old Eden D115 under a PJB Suitcase. It works fine but not really optimal of a situation. Whether it's the Piranhas or the newer Neo cabs, they really do work best with other PJB cabs, that said, like anything, it's always worth a try and if it works for your ears then by all means why not.

as for Phil's cabs and other amps, not only do you get the sound of whatever instrument you're plugging into them but the head really colours it as well. You get a chance to hear what any brand of head really sounds like. The MK500 Ashdown sounds pretty good.

JNW7
04-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Hey, thought i should chime in on this one as i've been using PJB gear for almost a year now. I started off with the 6t and 9b w/ a Hartke 7000 amp, did quite well, but i soon traded in the 6t, hartke amp and an old Warwick Corvette just to be able to afford the 6pak combo, and i wouldnt have it any other way. The set together just KILLS! The tone is undeniable. I play in a fairly heavy progressive rock band(check us out at www.myspace.com/thisspecificdream) I have to compete against 2 guitarists one has a Fender Dual reverb(2-12s) with a Music man 1-18 extension cab, the oter guitarist uses his Ampeg bass rig(4-10 + 1-15) so i gota lot to compete against to be heard and the PJB 6pak + 9b does an amazing job at keeping my tone tight and clear and whatever volume is needed. I would recommend PJB gear to any and everyone wanting clearer representation of what their bass truely sounds like.
Hope this helps, any more questions bout my set-up etc i'dbe happy to answer.
-James

smperry
04-30-2007, 04:41 PM
I am looking for a slant-fronted speaker I can place on top of my Dr Bass 2260 to direct the mid and high frequencies toward my ears to better enable me to hear my intonation without turning the volume up too high.

The PJB 6T looks like it would be ideal. Can anyone here provide feedback or recommendations based on first-hand experience with the 6T?

If it makes any difference, I can choose to drive my cabs with either a Carvin B1500 or a Yamaha PB-1 through a QSC PLX 3002.

Thanks!

I've never run my PJB 6T with anything other than a 9b but I have run other amps (GK 1001, Gibson GB440, Alembic Pre/SS Power, etc) through the cabs and they sounded good. Using the QSC in stereo might make sense because of the unusual impedence of the 6t...I think it's 12 ohms. Again, I've never done it, so can't speak from experience. If I were local to you, I'd loan you the cab for a gig.

Marshall

Jazzdogg
05-01-2007, 12:04 PM
I guess I'll have to take my rig to a PJB dealer and find out for myself. Should be a fun field trip - who knows, I could end up with a whole new setup.

Brandt@TPB
05-02-2007, 11:20 AM
Jazzdogg

If you are hesitant about taking the step over to PJB gear TPB can help. We offer a 5-day satisfaction guaranty on all of our products. So if you are unhappy with the cab you can just send it back, which I am 100% sure you will not have to do.

Email me or give me a call if you would like to discuss this option a little more.

Peace!

B3bopbass
06-11-2007, 02:26 AM
Will there be an updated Suitcase and 4B with the new neo drivers?

Psychicpet
06-11-2007, 02:31 AM
I don't believe so, as far as I know, the Suitcase is a part of the "Pirahna" line so it will always have Phil's 'conventional' drivers.

....however, I wouldn't be surprised if something 'major' is in the works as far as neo combos go
:eyebrow:


:hiding:

tombowlus
06-11-2007, 02:34 PM
Will there be an updated Suitcase and 4B with the new neo drivers?

Have you seen the Flight Case BG-150? (http://philjonesbass.com/IMAGES/PRODUCTS/flightcase/Flightcase.jpg)

ThePerfectBass
06-11-2007, 03:16 PM
The Flightcase is sweet!!! And we have some in stock!

We'll be publishing a podcast episode soon with a review of it.

If you're looking for something between the Briefcase and Suitcase Combo...it's perfect. More power/volume than a Briefcase, almost as portable, but not as scalable as the Suitcase.

I also have to comment on the new neo speakers in the Flightcase... They sound amazing!! I can't wait for the larger Neo cabs from Phil...they have a more "organic" tone to them that reminds me more of a traditional speaker. Very cool stuff!

You can see it on our site here: http://www.theperfectbass.com/philjonesbass2.cfm

Peace!

karlgustav
06-18-2007, 05:10 PM
have you tried the flight case with a band?

does it manage for example a drummer-keyboard-guitar-2 singers-percussion-maybe a horn or two band. as a personal monitor.
in a sence that at gigs it will go trough a PA .

could you post pictures of the control panel.

ThePerfectBass
06-19-2007, 01:08 PM
The Flight case is more than loud enough for a personal monitor in a live band situation. I have not used it in that situation personally...yet, but I've been in several bands and know what's required to get over an ensemble.

If you wander around stage a lot, it may not be right for you, but if you stay within a reasonable distance, say 10 feet or so, and you're not set up next to the drummer's crash cymbal, you should have no problems!

It's very loud for it's size and weight and sounds amazing. I'll likely have one at my house soon. ;)

Peace!

dlmarquez
06-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Just thought I'd chime in here. I was fortunate enough to find a used PJB briefcase for sale locally, the owner was moving up to a Suitcase. I have an ampeg B-18N and a warmoth fretless J. The briefcase is a much more interesting unit to play the fretless through for practice. It has mwah for miles when I want that sound, but with TI jazz flats I can also get a great punchy sound. The greatest thing about the briefcase is that what I hear is EXACTLY what I am doing....and that can be a two edged sword. However it has really caused me to work on cleaning up some sloppy playing habits. One thing I don't do is practice with the compressor on. However I don't need to "battery" aspect of the briefcase. I am seriously considering selling both the ampeg and briefcase to pick up either a flightcase, or a suitcase with neos when that is available. I do like the 2 channel aspect of the suitcase. PJB makes wonderful stuff, and as mentioned numerous times, there is absolutely NO noise coming out of those itsy bitsy piranhas except what I'm doing with my fingers!

B3bopbass
08-04-2007, 07:41 PM
So the PJB website shows the new neos...

When can we expect these to ship??? :hyper:

ThePerfectBass
08-06-2007, 11:14 AM
We keep hearing September on the Neo Cabs. That's not guaranteed, but we we're pretty confident that they'll be here in the next 60 days...

Sir Funkalot
08-06-2007, 12:06 PM
All being well we are on target for having the NEO-POWER cabs in mid September.

ThePerfectBass
08-07-2007, 09:50 AM
There you go...an update from the Man himself! Thanks Phil!

unclejam
08-19-2007, 05:39 PM
For the 8B can we get a response chart from inside an Anechoic Chamber?

thanks

macmrkt
08-20-2007, 07:00 PM
Hi,
Any word on the D400 that was shown at NAMM or the M300 heads?
Thanks!

ThePerfectBass
08-20-2007, 07:06 PM
Maybe Phil has access to one...but we don't... :crying:

Sorry Unclejam...wish I could help you there...

For the 8B can we get a response chart from inside an Anechoic Chamber?

thanks

tonequixote
08-21-2007, 11:28 AM
Hi,
Any word on the D400 that was shown at NAMM or the M300 heads?
Thanks!

Looks like the D400 head morphed into the M300 or will these be two separate offerings ? Any word on shipping/availabilty for either one ?

It seems that a D400/M300 would be well suited as a match for the Neo 8 cabinet. Or would more power be required to drive the Neo 8 ?

Thank you TPB & PJB for all you do.

ko stradivarius
08-21-2007, 07:58 PM
I just inquired about taking lessons from David. I'm going over to Cicero's on 9/15 to hear his setup. I cant wait too check it out.

I just watched her yesterday afternoon at Frontier Park in St. Charles with Candy Coburn and she sounded killer! The bass player (David Karns - also my teacher) was also using PJB gear - I believe is was the 6Tx9B enclosure - but it had a HUGE sound!

The band was in a pavillion, so in close in close a lot of the the stage volume was balling up and adding a significant 'rumble' to the overall sound - but when you stepped back about 20 feet behind the sound man (say 100 feet away from the stage), everything sounded fantastic.

Andrea's violin was crystal clear and she really knows how to turn a phrase!

David's Warrior thru the PJB rig was crystal clear, punchy, funky, driving - a really well-rounded overall bass sound. He did some slapping, some tapping, stomped on a distortion box (ala 'Reneagedes of Funk Funk' by Rage Against the Machine) - and some straight-up, country bass picking. It all sounded great.

tombowlus
08-22-2007, 07:45 AM
I just inquired about taking lessons from David. I'm going over to Cicero's on 9/15 to hear his setup. I cant wait too check it out.

Good move! Dave is quite the player, and one heck of a nice guy. Tell him I said 'hello!' :D

Tom.

bilias
09-15-2007, 10:45 AM
I talked with Phil about this today... He assures us that it's totally fine to use the M500 with the 4B and knows of at least one player who owns 4 x 4B cabs and runs them with the M500. Sounds like it's almost the ultimate in scalable/portable rigs!

We also talked a bit about the differences in the drivers. Basically the drivers in the Briefcase, Suitcase and 4B have a little more travel in them than the drivers in the larger cabs.


I've listened today a Briefcase PJB. I was very satisfied as it reproduced a clean sound, very close to the natural sound of the upright bass connected. However the output was low (according to my opinion) for live gigs with drums.

So I was wondering if anyone has tested the 4B speakers with
a Clarus or Focus (too much?) Acoustic Image amp.

Do they much?

Thanx in advance :)
Giannis

Brandt@TPB
09-15-2007, 01:02 PM
Hi Bilias,

The Briefcase was designed with the intent of being the best practice or small gig amp on the planet and I honestly think it does a great job at being just that. For an acoustic or EUB player in a Jazz trio it is a dream! Adding just the right amount volume while staying 100% transparent to project the natural sound of the instrument to the listener.

Being a 100-watt combo with only two 5-inch drivers, the Briefcase has its limits. The duties of playing in a rock band with a drummer are usually the job of a 410 or 212 at the least and while Phil Jones offers a verity of rigs that can handle this job the briefcase will fall short.

The 4B extension cab, while much louder than the Briefcase, will perform on the level of a 112 cab with better definition and much greater low-end response. If a 112 can handle your application a 4B with 150+-watt amplifier will work great! If you will need more than a 112 I would suggest 2 or more 4B cabs or the new 8B Neo cab!

Because of the transparent design of PJB cabs they will work well with other brands of amps but, I always recommend sticking with the same amp and cabinet brand as they were designed to work together. (The 4B is an 8-ohm cab that takes only Speak-On inputs.)

If you have any further questions feel free to call me directly at the toll free number below.

Peace!

coyoteboy
09-30-2007, 09:50 PM
So,

Now that the NeoPower cabs are in, could you plug in a DB750 into one (or two) 12B's and tell us what you think?

p.s. you can use that gorgeous tobacco ash 535 if you like!

ThePerfectBass
09-30-2007, 09:53 PM
We can, and we will! :)

Peace!

hgrind
10-10-2007, 12:52 PM
Hi, I've been looking at the Suitcase combo for my doubling gigs, and I think this must be perfect for me. I was wondering, I can't find the M-300 amp at TPB. Is this the same amp that's in the Suitcase combo? I'm wondering about the price of the M-300, and if having a M-300 and two 4B cabs will be the same as having a Suitcase and one 4B? Will the price be the same? Seems like it might be heavier with separate parts. I thought it might be easier access to the EQ settings with the M-300 on top of two 4B cabinets.

Brandt@TPB
10-13-2007, 02:18 PM
Brandt @ TPB’s review – Aguilar DB750 with a Phil Jones Neo 12B

My first thought was, “this is going to be a weird combination”, an amp that is known for carrying the company it represents signature tone and a cabinet that is designed to be transparent and add no additional color to your bass or amp head.

As I pulled the MTD 535 ash tobacco burst of the wall (as requested by coyoteboy above) I started to wonder if the 12B cab would be able to handle the 750 watts plus that the DB750 would be pumping into it. Most customers do not realize it but because of the efficiency of design and the bulletproof build quality used by Phil in his drivers and cabs they can handle a pounding from a powerful amp, and if you are looking for tight, quick and brut power the DB 750 will deliver.

Once I was underway I was grabbed by how well these two totally different pieces reacted together. With the amp’s gain set to 9 o’clock the 12B handles every note you can dish out! Low B fundamentals shine and sustain with clarity, mids are smooth and the high very present. If you turn the gain up to 12 o’clock or more you start to hear a little tube bark throughout the entire frequency range. The Low D-B fundamental isn’t as clear initially but it does clear up if the note is sustained. The midrange becomes super variable from a big bottom growl (adjusting and adding low-mid on the MTD) to an over the top quack that would be sure to put you in front of your guitar player and his bass burying Mesa Rig! The top end is still present but has a little more attitude to it.

One thing to remember about the top end of a Phil Jones cab is that it is being produced by the same drivers that produce the low and mid frequencies. This results in no loss of top end volume and no variable in throw across the stage. Below is an excerpt from Phil Jones himself. The entire article can be found on the PJB Website (http://www.philjonesbass.com/TECH%20INFO/piranha.htm). I highly recommend reading the entire article, as it is very interesting and entertaining.

“Small drivers are also far superior reproducers of high and mid frequencies than large pounders. The harmonic signature of your instrument gains expressiveness. The PJB Piranha woofer is linear from 25Hz to 15kHz. It performs as a true full-range driver. It reproduces all the fundamentals and harmonics a bass is capable of. The mix’n’match approach of combining smaller and larger drivers is deeply flawed. It’s like playing flat-wound and round-wound strings on the same instrument. Different attack, sustain and decay. Dissimilar feel. Mismatched tone. Shouldn’t your bass speak with a single voice?”

If you have any additional questions about Aguilar or Phil Jones gear give me a call. If you can’t tell these are two of my favorite amp companies and I gig with each of their products week in and week out!

Peace
BB

coyoteboy
10-19-2007, 10:39 PM
Hey Brandt!!

Many thanks for getting around to the review.

In essence, you see no worries with the 12B when really laying into it with the DB 750?

Has Phil published any sensitivity ratings for the Neo-Power cabs? Is there a gain in sensitivity to go along with the loss in power handling vs. the ceramic Piranhas?

thanks again.

tombowlus
10-20-2007, 11:57 AM
FWIW, I find that amps that normally punish other cabs, tend to sound great through PJB cabs. I definitely like the sound of my DB 750 through the 6T/9B stack, and those cabs also really sound great with tube heads. :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:

I am definitely looking forward to trying the new neo cabs! :cool:

Tom.

coyoteboy
10-20-2007, 02:53 PM
(wonders if one could get the 12B @ 3 ohms to stack modularly w/ the 6B, but the dims aren't quite right... hmm.)

Fretless Bill
10-20-2007, 06:21 PM
I recently ordered a PJB flightcase (4 neo 5" drivers with 150wt.amp) from TPB. I ordered the amp from Brandt and found him to be excellent to work with. I received the amp yesterday and have spent 3 to 4 hours noodleing around with it and have run 11 different basses through it. Fretless, fretted, 4 str. and 5 str. and everything sounds great through it. The quality and amount of sound from a package slightly over a cubic foot in size and 24# is impressive. The amp sounds very good with most basses just set flat but if you want more or less of anything the EQ system does a fine job of shaping your sound. The amp seems to do a first rate job of what it's designed for (practice and stage monitoring). I haven't used it in a live situation yet but will next week and I'm confident it will be perfect. If you are playing on a very loud stage this isn't the amp for you, but than again, no 150 watt amp would be. If you are playing with accoustic instruments or running through a PA should cover it all nicely. There is one feature I would like to have seen on it ( not that big a deal though) is a pre or post EQ option on the DI out. The other negative for me was the "Assembled in China" sticker on the back of the amp. I'm a bit old school in that it's hard for me to associate quality with products comming from China but this rig seems to deliver it. At this point I'll give the flightcase a 9.5 out of 10. and The Perfect Bass a 10.

macmrkt
10-20-2007, 08:39 PM
My sentiments exactly on the amazing Flightcase. On the China issue...I've been told by those smarter than me that the factory setup by PJB is one at the high-end of what China can do. It's Phil's own shop that he carefully supervises. I hear that Mrs. Phil Jones is Chinese and helps coordinate and supervise as well. As seems to be the case, it's not where its made, but how. The parts he uses and the details of assembly are better than just about anything I've seen.

synaesthesia
10-20-2007, 11:26 PM
“The mix’n’match approach of combining smaller and larger drivers is deeply flawed. It’s like playing flat-wound and round-wound strings on the same instrument. Different attack, sustain and decay. Dissimilar feel. Mismatched tone. Shouldn’t your bass speak with a single voice?”

Poor analogy, misleading copy.

coyoteboy
10-21-2007, 01:29 PM
“The mix’n’match approach of combining smaller and larger drivers is deeply flawed. It’s like playing flat-wound and round-wound strings on the same instrument. Different attack, sustain and decay. Dissimilar feel. Mismatched tone. Shouldn’t your bass speak with a single voice?”

Poor analogy, misleading copy.

+1. It gets a little thick sometimes. If other designs were 'deeply flawed' then they wouldn't sound as good as they do. Accentuate the positive.

Brandt@TPB
10-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Guys,

I didn’t intend to bash multi-driver cabs, I own and play several multi driver cabs myself and I will admit that they sound great! In fact I'm sure it’s safe to say that multi diver cabs consume over 95% of the bass cab market. If it didn’t work manufactures would not make or sell these types of cabs. With that said, just because a design works, it does not mean it is the best or most efficient way to get a job done. I will agree that “flawed in design” may be harsh words to use but there is evidence that proves Phil’s theory correct.

Bose has proved that a muti-numbered single driver design can set the standard in the PA and home audio field, which is where Phil got his start and still has a large presence today. (Take a look as his AAD line.) **I realize that Bose uses larger divers in their subs than in their satellites, but their design is all woofer and no horn. **

I guess what I am getting at is the intent of the quote was not to discredit the standard bass cab design that has modernized bass tone over the last few decades. I used it to accentuate the fact that maybe, just maybe, Phil is on to something here!

Remember to let your ears be your judge! If it sounds good to you, go with it!

coyoteboy
10-23-2007, 03:07 PM
It was not my intent to flame (or fan the fire)

I believe the quote quoted was in quotes, so I was taking that it was a snip from the manufacturers literature and not your own words, Brandt. If I'm wrong, please correct me. I was just commenting on how some (companies) will try and tear down their competitors instead of just extolling the virtues of their own products. I heartily agree that if it sounds good than it is good.

I'm rather curious about the PJB gear in general, and it's hard to resist getting a Briefcase to go with my NS for the bedroom where it spends most of it's time. I fear that the larger speaker enclosures like the 12B currently in discussion might be a bit too spendy for 600w/6ohm for me right now, especially if it's not a particularly loud 600w. These Neo speakers seems to follow a 1x12/2x10/2x12 pattern if one is to compare them to more conventional designs. Do you find that in terms of performance and volume that those are worthwhile comparisons?

Brandt@TPB
10-25-2007, 05:20 PM
I think those comparisons are very close. The 6B may be a bit louder that a 112 and the 8B may be a bit louder than a 210 but not by much. The 12B is obnoxiously loud for a cab it's size! James and I hooked up a Glock Bass Art Classic to it and it was IMO loud enough to play in a rock band with a “rockin” drummer. (212 borderline 410)

ThePerfectBass
10-25-2007, 05:32 PM
I'll add that I thought that the 12B seemed to handle high power levels a little better than the 212 Glock cab that we A/B'd it with.

Both are fantastic cabs (I am extremely fond of Glock cabs and the 212 particularly) but the 12B seemed to respond to cranking the Bass Art Classic Top (400watts) to the max volume with a little less harshness at top of the power spectrum of that amp.

I'll also say that while I agree with Brandt's assesment 100%, I have to point out that we A/B'd the PJB cabs with Glockenklang cabs...

If you compared the PJB neos to a more "common" cab with similar specs, the PJB cabs may have more headroom on them... We're out of time for more tests at the moment, but maybe we can do some additional A/B'ing at a later date.

Peace!

I think those comparisons are very close. The 6B may be a bit louder that a 112 and the 8B may be a bit louder than a 210 but not by much. The 12B is obnoxiously loud for a cab it's size! James and I hooked up a Glock Bass Art Classic to it and it was IMO loud enough to play in a rock band with a “rockin” drummer. (212 borderline 410)

Fretless Bill
10-25-2007, 07:41 PM
A little up date on my newly aquired PJB Flightcase, Used it for rehersal last night and it did great. Nobody could beleive that all that tight and powerfull bass was comming out of such a small package. The stage I was on is fairly large and I was playing with a drummer, accoustic and electric guitars, piano, keyboard, mandolin, congas, flute and six vocalist. The only thing putting bass on the stage was the flightcase and no one had any problems hearing it. Grant it, I had it cranked up fairly high (2/3 to 3/4) but not pushing it to the point of distortion or clipping and with very little compression. I was running my Fender CIJ 5 string jazz through it and it handled the B nicely and best of all, at 24#, it was easy to carry in one hand and my bass in the other. I think it weighs less than my bass does in the hard case. I am very happy with this unit.

Carl999Pop
11-03-2007, 10:29 AM
I am not sure about what it takes to really get the bigger cabs moving, but I find that the 6T/9B sound incredible with tube heads! :bassist:

Tom.

Hi Tom,
have you tried the 6t/9t cabs with the 500 head? I'm also intersted in what they sound like with an iamp800 (which I have andlove)

Cheers

Carl

Fretless Bill
11-04-2007, 05:16 PM
I had the oppertunity to use my PJB Flightcase in a live situation again and was again impressed with it. This time I ran my MM Bongo 5 HH throught it. I also have a Bongo 5 HS and for the most part prefered it to the HH, sounds a bit cleaner and tighter to my ears that is until I ran the HH through the Flightcase. The 5" speakers are so fast and punchy that they really tightend up the sound (espeicialy on the B) of the HH. Now I'm concidering a larger PJB cab for my bigger rig wich is currently an AccuGroove tri 110 and a 112 LF encloser driven by an EA iamp 800. While I happy with the amount of quality sound per pound that I'm getting out of this rig, I can't help but think the 12 5's would be better.

tombowlus
11-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Hi Tom,
have you tried the 6t/9t cabs with the 500 head? I'm also intersted in what they sound like with an iamp800 (which I have andlove)

Cheers

Carl

I have not had a chance to hear them with the M-500, unfortunately. They do sound good with the iAMP800, but I have found that in order to really get room filling volume out of those cabs, I either have to drive them with ludicrous amounts of SS power (like CA9 kinda juice), or else 200 or so tube watts (which seems like a match made in heaven, so far). I'd love to hear them with an M-500, though.

Tom.

Anders T
11-15-2007, 07:05 AM
Hi, anyone compared the Suitcase and the Flightcase?
If so what where your findings?
Reason for asking is that I can get a good very deal on the Suitcase (nearly the same amount as the Flighcase), Since I`m loooking for a very lightweight amp and don`t have the posibilities try them both I need some opinions on this. pro, cons etc.
Compared to the Flighcase it is much heavier (in terms of weight).But if the suitase sounds that much better than the Flighcase. It might justify the weight issue for me.

ThePerfectBass
11-15-2007, 09:33 AM
The Suitcase and Flightcase are 2 completely different amps...

The Suitcase has an external speaker output, while the flightcase does not. The Suitcase offers more volume and power output as well. In addition, you have 2 complete preamps on the Suitcase while only 1 on the Flightcase.

The tone on the 2 amps are somewhat different as well. The Flightcase has the new PJB Neo speakers, while the Suitcase has a 75 watt version of the Pirahnna drivers. The new Neo speakers have an inherent quality about them that reminds me of a traditional paper coned speaker. That translates into a little less natural attack on the higher frequencies.

That being said, both speakers are full range and are more than capable of reproducing all of the frequencies that you could ever want.

The Suitcase is more applicable to a gigging environment with the ability to add extension cabs also. The Flightcase is intended to be a stand alone piece. The Suitcase with additional extension cabs is also more than capable of playing in an ensemble with live drums, while the Flightcase is intended more for the studio, practice and controlled live environments where peak volume is not an issue.

Personally, I play at my church. There, we have drums behind glass and only a minimmal amount of stage volume. It's very controlled. In that environment, the Flightcase is a perfect match! That being my primary gigging application and my desire to be able to have protability and high quality tone while playing at low volumes at home (I have 2 small children...) make the Flightcase ideal for my personal situation.

If I were gigging with my prior rock band, I would opt for a larger rig, with the Suitcase being an obvious one of my top choices in the combo market!

That being said, I personally have a Suitcase that I donated to our church... And we use that amp in church every Sunday! It's wonderful in that environment as well. But as soon as we are able to meet the demand for the Flightcase (our customers come first!) I will be purchasing a Flightcase for my at-home application.

Bottom line is that both are incredible amps! Both will get the job done in their respective intended applications and will do so in a way that is unmatched by other small combos. But...if you need a bit more volume, or want the option of adding speakers in the future...the Suitcase is the way to go. If you don't have a use for the additional headroom in volume, and want ultra portability with the ability to perform live in controlled environments, the Flightcase is the obvious choice.

Don't forget also, that the ultimate in compact amps is the Briefcase! If size and portability is the of the utmost concern and you don't need more stage volume, the Briefcase will absolutely blow you away as well!

Peace!

tombowlus
11-15-2007, 10:26 AM
Hi, anyone compared the Suitcase and the Flightcase?
If so what where your findings?
Reason for asking is that I can get a good very deal on the Suitcase (nearly the same amount as the Flighcase), Since I`m loooking for a very lightweight amp and don`t have the posibilities try them both I need some opinions on this. pro, cons etc.
Compared to the Flighcase it is much heavier (in terms of weight).But if the suitase sounds that much better than the Flighcase. It might justify the weight issue for me.

The Suitcase does not sound 'better' than the Flight Case, IME/IMHO. It is somewhat different - and I'd say more aggressively punchy and articulate from top to bottom, with the Flight Case being a bit more open and transparent - but the two are just differing shades of great.

Without the 4B extension cab, the Suitcase is just slightly louder than the Flight Case. Adding the 4B really bumps up the volume output.

And of course, the Flight Case is soooooooo darned light! :)

Ryan L.
11-15-2007, 11:15 PM
I FINALLY got the chance to check out some Phil Jones gear yesterday.

I had no idea such tiny speakers would sound so damn good!!!

I played through a Six-Pack Combo, and also through a M500 head w/6T and 9B cabinets. The 6-Pack was the first one I tried, and it blew me away. Clear, punchy, beautiful sound. And then I plugged into the "stack"---WOW!!! I was totally floored by how articulate, and loud, this setup was.


They also had Suitcase and Briefcase combos there, but I didn't have time to check them out (plus, I was having too damn much bun with the bigger stuff).

ThePerfectBass
11-16-2007, 03:26 PM
+1 on Ryan and tom's comments!

By the way, we have some "used" PJB gear that we purchased back from one of our really great customers that are on sale for incredibly good prices! They are pretty much brand new, but technically used.

We have gotten confirmation from PJB that considering the "like new" condition of these pieces, they will be covered with a full warranty.

I'm not sure what we have left, but in this batch, we have a 6 Pack, 2 9B cabs and a 6T cab.

If you're looking for any of these, contact Brandt ASAP and he'll get you hooked up in this once in a lifetime opportunity to pick up warranted PJB gear at used prices!!! brandt@theperfectbass.com or toll free at 866.751.3220

Peace!

RColie
11-26-2007, 04:45 PM
Hi all -

This is my first post here - I'm just getting back into playing bass after a long layoff, and I'm working on upgrading my bass amp system. After a fair amount of research and trying out different amps, I'm sold on Phil Jones. I currently have a Suitcase and 4b extension cabinet, and they are amazing! The only disadvantage I see is that I can't add any more speaker cabinets to the Suitcase. Since I don't know what type of band or venues I'll be playing in, I would like to be able to expand if needed.

So, going back to the drawing board, I came up with the following criteria:

1. The equipment must fit in my car. That means only the 4b, 6b, or 8b.
2. I'd like to maximize scalability by having the option of adding extra speaker cabinets when needed.
3. I like the sound of both the piranhas and the neo speakers, so I'd like to use both if possible, to get a combination of punch and warmth.
4. I'd like more than one channel to accomodate more than one bass or use an additional channel for effects and leave one clean.

What I came up with is the following:
Use one M-300 to drive anywhere from two to four 4b cabinets, depending on venue, for the piranha sound.
Use a second M-300 to drive either 1) one or two 6b cabinets, or 2) one or two 8b cabinets.
I would only have to bring what I needed for a given gig, and all the components are small enough to fit in my car and individually are not too heavy. The M-300s (especially two of them) have plenty of power and offer four channels for a variety of settings.

I'd welcome any comments or questions on this set up, since I may have overlooked some issues.

My main question concerns the advisability of running an M-300 at 2 ohms. If I used four 4b cabs -or- two 8b cabs, that would result in 2 ohms. I read the M-300 manual, and it is somewhat contradictory concerning 2 ohms. Alternately, I could run three 4b cabs from one M-300 (2.7 ohms) and two 6b cabs from the other M-300 (3 ohms). This might be a bit safer.

Does anyone have any experience with the M-300 or any other input or advice.

Thanks for listening!

Bob

nj fclef
12-15-2007, 09:19 PM
Hi all -

This is my first post here - I'm just getting back into playing bass after a long layoff, and I'm working on upgrading my bass amp system. After a fair amount of research and trying out different amps, I'm sold on Phil Jones. I currently have a Suitcase and 4b extension cabinet, and they are amazing! The only disadvantage I see is that I can't add any more speaker cabinets to the Suitcase. Since I don't know what type of band or venues I'll be playing in, I would like to be able to expand if needed.

So, going back to the drawing board, I came up with the following criteria:

1. The equipment must fit in my car. That means only the 4b, 6b, or 8b.
2. I'd like to maximize scalability by having the option of adding extra speaker cabinets when needed.
3. I like the sound of both the piranhas and the neo speakers, so I'd like to use both if possible, to get a combination of punch and warmth.
4. I'd like more than one channel to accomodate more than one bass or use an additional channel for effects and leave one clean.

What I came up with is the following:
Use one M-300 to drive anywhere from two to four 4b cabinets, depending on venue, for the piranha sound.
Use a second M-300 to drive either 1) one or two 6b cabinets, or 2) one or two 8b cabinets.
I would only have to bring what I needed for a given gig, and all the components are small enough to fit in my car and individually are not too heavy. The M-300s (especially two of them) have plenty of power and offer four channels for a variety of settings.

I'd welcome any comments or questions on this set up, since I may have overlooked some issues.

My main question concerns the advisability of running an M-300 at 2 ohms. If I used four 4b cabs -or- two 8b cabs, that would result in 2 ohms. I read the M-300 manual, and it is somewhat contradictory concerning 2 ohms. Alternately, I could run three 4b cabs from one M-300 (2.7 ohms) and two 6b cabs from the other M-300 (3 ohms). This might be a bit safer.

Does anyone have any experience with the M-300 or any other input or advice.

Thanks for listening!

Bob
my requirements exactly: i drive a z3 coupe and can fit an ampeg 4x10 in the back. my wife just bought a pjb 8b cab for me from these guys, but i can't open it 'till christmas ;) . i'm planning to use it with my markbass lm2. as it is, i play dry with no effects and the lm2 + 4x10 rig has been perfect for the medium+ venues.

observe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahosm8E8ed4

IMO, if you do 2 8b's with one m300 or 2 lm2's, you might be good for any venue.

RColie
12-18-2007, 07:55 AM
Thanks for your response. Yes, I agree that the M-300 and a pair of 8b's should do the trick in almost all cases. And, if I need a little more, I still have the suitcase and 4b to add. Your band and your rig sound great, by the way. Enjoy your new 8b!

Bob

icorn25
12-24-2007, 03:50 PM
I saw that you guys have got in the new neo cabs. I have the genz-benz neo-pak 3.5, and I am looking for a good light weight, loud, clear, and punchy cabinet to pair up with it. I am really interested in the 8b cabinet. I have heard some things about these smaller cabinets not being very loud. The loudness isn't really an issue but it was just a rumor i read on one of these threads. I really like how portable they have made these cabinets and i like the theory a that has gone behind the five inch drivers. So, i guess what im wondering is whether or not this match will work or should i go with something else. If so im free for suggestions. thanks

ThePerfectBass
12-26-2007, 09:23 AM
Hi icorn25,
We don't currently carry GB, so I can't speak with too much authority about how it would sound with the PJB cabs. That being said, I'm sure it would work just fine... The cabs sound great regardless of which heads we plug into them (and we've plugged in a few...), and I'm certain that it would not be any different for Genz-Benz amplification.

Peace!

jady
12-27-2007, 01:25 PM
I am looking for a new preamp for my rig. I am considering the Bass Buddy for the versatility and reasonable price. Has anyone played a Phil Jones head or pre through an Accugroove El Whappo? I will be feeding it into a Crest CA-4 bridged for 1100W.

Also, how is the compressor on the Bass Buddy? If I recall it is set at 3:1 and the knob controls the threshhold. Is it pretty useful and silent?

ThePerfectBass
12-27-2007, 02:00 PM
Very silent, and very useful if you need it... I'm not big into effects and I'm a fairly consistent "meat and potatoes" player (I won't wow you with my chops...), so I rarely ever used the comp/limiter on my personal PJB gear.

jady
12-27-2007, 02:31 PM
I'm lookin for light limiting more than squish. I may just have you hook me up in a month or 2!!!!!!

tombowlus
12-27-2007, 02:46 PM
I'm lookin for light limiting more than squish.

If that is the case, then IME/IMHO, the PJB compressor is pretty much what you are looking for. :cool:

ThePerfectBass
12-28-2007, 12:39 AM
I would agree with Tom, it sounds like it's right up your alley! PJB gear is amazing... Great stuff, I can't wait to see what Phil has in store for us at NAMM!

icorn25
12-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Alright well thanks James for the info. It looks like i will be ordering one of those 9b's from you sometime this next month. I just need to sell my old cabinet first. :hyper:

Thanks

jady
12-28-2007, 04:22 PM
PJB gear is amazing... Great stuff, I can't wait to see what Phil has in store for us at NAMM!

Me too!!!!

James, will you be there?

ThePerfectBass
12-30-2007, 12:26 PM
But of course! ;)

RColie
01-22-2008, 05:23 PM
Hi all -

I was just wondering if Phil Jones announced any new and exciting products at NAMM last week?

Thanks,

Bob

Brandt@TPB
01-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Hi all PJB fans!

There are 2 new items on the bass side and 2 from AAD! I do not have detail about everything at this time but as soon as we have specs I will post them here or send you a link to them on our site.

PJB released the D-200 amp. A 200+ Watt digital amp that weighs under 3 pounds and also the Super Flightcase! A 300 watt six speaker (4 front an 2 top firing) combo designed to be the “big brother” of the (BG-150) flightcase!!

AAD released the Super Cub, a guitar amp basses off of the Super Flightcase with digital effects for electric/acoustic guitar use. AAD also showed off its new portable PA system that simple SLAMED!! This thing was incredible; just think 18 three inch drivers and 3 ten inch subs in a 9 foot column that can handle all the power an M5000 (5000 watts) can dish out!

NAMM was great for both PJB and TPB! Stay tuned in to talkbass and theperfectbass.com for updates on NAMM soon!

(James has the cameras with all the NAMM pictures and he is in Bend, OR visiting Breedlove guitars. Luck Dogg!)

bongomania
01-22-2008, 05:47 PM
What's the projected street price of the Super Flightcase?

macmrkt
01-22-2008, 06:48 PM
Any ideas on shipping dates for the new PJB's?

tombowlus
01-23-2008, 07:56 AM
It's not really meant to be a bass rig (though I have my plans... :ninja:), but here is Phil playing some music through the phenomenal sounding PJB PA tower (which was probably the most impressive sounding thing I heard at NAMM):

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/NAMM%202008/IMG_5404.jpg

Here is the M-300 head:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/tombowlus/NAMM%202008/IMG_5400.jpg

ThePerfectBass
01-23-2008, 09:22 AM
Oh goodness... That powered PA he has is UN-REAL! Sorry we missed you there Tom...

Peace!

tombowlus
01-23-2008, 10:13 AM
Oh goodness... That powered PA he has is UN-REAL! Sorry we missed you there Tom...

Peace!

For the record, this particular stack was passive, and was being driven by the P-1 preamp and M-5000 amp (you can see them in the photo).

Tom.

ThePerfectBass
01-24-2008, 12:42 AM
That's right... You are correct... But I believe Phil has plans for a powered version in the future. I can't wait for this to go into production... It may very well be our first venture into portable PA products!

Peace!

Diego
01-25-2008, 08:59 AM
Hi James,

Any news on the release date of the D200? what about costs? Would you guys be offering it anytime soon? Pics? Sound samples? Reviews?

I am really interested in this unit...and of course you are the guys to go to for all my bass needs!:)

Diego

ThePerfectBass
01-25-2008, 10:10 AM
I beleive the D200 is sceduled for release in February... We don't have pricing yet, but it will be coming soon!

Peace!

macmrkt
01-25-2008, 10:34 AM
Could you please tell me what the release date is on the Super Flightcase? Thanks!

ThePerfectBass
01-25-2008, 11:10 AM
Ok, for the D200, the price will be $425 including ground shipping in the US. We expect them to be ready to ship in about 4-5 weeks!

Pre-orders are welcome, so call Brandt @ 866.751.3220 if you want to get one of the first to arrive!

Peace!

ThePerfectBass
01-25-2008, 11:11 AM
I believe the super flightcase if not due until May, but we'll get an update on that also.

TimWinter
01-25-2008, 05:05 PM
So did you get a chance to play the super flightcase? So how would it compare with a suitcase with 4B?

ThePerfectBass
01-26-2008, 03:47 PM
I did not get an opportunity to play the super flightcase. But I don't believe it's designed to compete with the Suitcase and 4B. I believe it's basically a Flightcase with a bit more headroom in terms of volume.

brandonwong
02-06-2008, 08:26 AM
"The Super Flightcase is louder than the Suitcase on its own, but not louder than the Suitcase+4B."
This is what i got from Freda from PJB.

The Flightcase series has its own tonal palette, and is designed more as a super portable combo than anything else. At 15kg, i believe it packs a punch.

tombowlus
02-06-2008, 08:45 AM
"The Super Flightcase is louder than the Suitcase on its own, but not louder than the Suitcase+4B."
This is what i got from Freda from PJB.

I can back that up. The Suitcase with the 4B is very visceral, and really packs a punch from top to bottom. I did not crank the BG-300 for all it was worth, but it seemed very loud for what it was, but not as big and powerful as the Suitcase/4B combo.

Tom.

ThePerfectBass
02-06-2008, 10:20 AM
I know the Flightcase doesn't have speaker outputs, and I'm pretty sure the S Flightcase will not either. So it's designed to be a stand alone unit, which kind of puts it in it's own class of combo.

It's important to note that the Flightcase also has the Neo PJB drivers, which when the EQ is set at neutral has a bit less bite on the treble frequencies. It still has tons of headroom on the treble side, but the Neo drivers have a bit more of a traditional tone to them.

Peace!

Rvl
02-07-2008, 08:13 AM
Has anyone tried the 4b or 6B with an old GK 400RB or a SWR 350 or a Yamaha BBT500 . These are the heads I have and looking at a new cab
Have 2x15 , 1x15 and 1x12 cabs and looking at something a little tighter but warm . I dont like tweeters, but want a little more top end

Talked to PJB today and they said the new BG-300 will be available May.

Thanks

Robert

Tryxx
02-22-2008, 10:16 AM
(I apologize in advance, I know this thread is 3 weeks old now, but it suits my needs better than any other.)

I've been reviewing these for a few days. I've seen a lot of reviews over my tenur looking at them. (From Harmony Central, Bass Player Mag, and even Jean Baudin's Mario Tapping video.) I've been stuck lately on deciding between the Briefcase, Flightcase, and Suitcase.

First, I'll explain my needs. I'm 20 years old and have spent a small fortune for someone my age due to GAS. After finally realizing that while I love music, it's probably not going to be much a career, I've decided to downsize. I'll probably be moving into an apartment or townhouse soon, so space is a factor. My rig now just isn't justifing itself at all (except in the tone department). In the end I'm a bedroom player that's just intent on composing music via the computer; still though, bedroom players can have living room gigs. I think the Briefcase looks great, but I just have this feeling I'll end up wanting a little more, and before the Flightcase was out, the Suitcase looked like a bit too much.

I think the Flightcase