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KAOSBass
04-10-2006, 05:48 AM
I've got some Ash laying around and was thinking about building a new bass, What do you guys think about using Purpleheart as neck material, not strips, but the whole neck, I was reading about it on the warmoth site, and they say it can be used as neck wood, but I've never seen anyone build the whole neck out of it.

Experiences?
Pics?

Thanks.

Phil Mailloux
04-10-2006, 06:30 AM
It's definitely hard enough for a neck and should look really good too but Purpleheart is NOT easy to work with. It's pretty tough to shape. i.e. it's tough on the tools and on the operator if you do a lot of manual work yourself.

Have you ever shaped rosewood or ebony by hand? It's as hard to shape

chunger
04-10-2006, 06:36 AM
I've made necks out of purpleheart. . . be ready for very sure bottom and bright top end. It's stiff.

But, I'm a purpleheart fanatic. I just made my recording studio floor out of it :hiding:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/finishedfloor.jpg

KAOSBass
04-10-2006, 06:48 AM
Got any pics of the basses? What fretboard materials did you use?

chunger
04-10-2006, 06:54 AM
not a great picture but this one's my bass . . . solid purpleheart neck through. . . 2 truss rods are still flopping loose after 7 years they never needed to be tensioned. The neck is stiff enough to hold back those 6 strings. Tone is punchy to the extent of "too much". You can, however do well with subtractive EQ'ing on this bass which sometimes makes it work well in the studio. All frequencies are present and full which let's you shape.

A meaty tube pre is a must on this bass.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/6string.jpg

chunger
04-10-2006, 06:59 AM
I'll post a more descriptive color photo tomorrow.. . along with the other bolt-on purple heart necks I have in progress. Fretboards are ebony

KAOSBass
04-10-2006, 07:04 AM
Thanks for the pics....

Would you recommend Maple fretboard with purpleheart? I have a Georgeous Stabalized Quilt/Burl/Spalted Maple fretboard, I'm dying to put to use.

chunger
04-10-2006, 07:13 AM
I really don't know 'cause I haven't done any maple fretboards. I'm just a beginner in this bass building, and am not all that good at sound speculation yet. These are my personal experiments. You'd laugh if you saw me carving this thing in my room with an X-acto knife and aluminum baseball bat.

I would guess it would be fine. Kindof reverse of normal necks that have softer neck material with more rigid fretboard. This is just crazy guessing, but I think it might mellow out the purple heart's attack a bit on the treble side. . . decrease your sustain a bit.

Again, don't listen to me. . . someone else with real experience should chime in. I'm amateur and don't know enough to speak with any authority. I'm just a sucka who tries to make too many things from purple heart. if you want a more traditional tone though, purple heart works great as a fretboard material.

Basschair
04-10-2006, 08:35 AM
You could do it.

It's true about the shaping: get yourself a new router bit, a bandsaw, a REALLY good rasp, a cabinet scraper, and a good burnisher (for the cabinet scraper), and you'll be fine.

JSPguitars
04-10-2006, 12:51 PM
NIce lookin' studio man!

Basschair
04-10-2006, 01:18 PM
I've made necks out of purpleheart. . . be ready for very sure bottom and bright top end. It's stiff.

But, I'm a purpleheart fanatic. I just made my recording studio floor out of it :hiding:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/finishedfloor.jpg


That's pretty friggin' nice: did you do all the work yourself?

chunger
04-10-2006, 01:40 PM
Yeah I did all the work except foundation and plumbing. . . the floor was very hard to sand. It's like it was mocking me and my "insignificant" sand paper :) I've gone over the purple heart deep end. Don't mind me.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1746.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1771.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/finishedfloorroom.jpg

chunger
04-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Necks in progress . . . row row row your boat. . .

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1846.jpg

chunger
04-10-2006, 02:56 PM
Pics of my bass. . .

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1848.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1850.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1855.jpg
Here's a pic of how the neck goes all the way through.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1852.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/chungsteroonie/IMG_1853.jpg

KAOSBass
04-10-2006, 03:42 PM
Sweet!!!

Alright I'm gonna give it a shot..

No pain....No gain.

Let the shaping begin.


:hyper:
:D

iamlowsound
04-11-2006, 09:11 PM
Purpleheart is a beautiful (and cheep wood). Do it. I played a bass once that had a purpleheart body and it was bright as hell.

lowsound

callmeMrThumbs
04-11-2006, 11:10 PM
Um...Chunger, you're going to do my floors in my first house, k? Those are BEAUTIFUL!!! And the bass is stunning! I'm quite the purpleheart fanatic, myself. It all started with Victor Wooten's Compito fretless....

-Josh

PS. Good luck with the project, KAOS.

wilser
04-12-2006, 11:57 AM
your feet look like your bass. did you model it after them?

chunger
04-12-2006, 03:49 PM
I call this one the "crazy feet". . . :smug:

Lo end PUNCH
04-12-2006, 03:51 PM
:eek: chunger-that bass is VERY nice, nice inlay on the stairwell landing too!

chunger
04-12-2006, 03:59 PM
The bass is ok. . . notice how the finish is all scraped up because I applied the laquer too thin, and how I never bothered to finish the electronics compartment cover :eek:

Lo end PUNCH
04-12-2006, 06:24 PM
LOL take off that laquer man!!(oil?). Finish that control plate!!, what'll THAT take?, maybe 3 hours tops? It will even be cooler. The body is really different from your normal everyday fare, thats what makes it so cool.

chunger
04-12-2006, 07:32 PM
I guess if it was someone else's bass, i'd be more inclined to get it done, but the cover plate works just fine without finish. . . :smug:

If I do re-finish, I think I'm going to go back in and carve a little bit more off the neck first. The tone is a bit on the wild side, and I want to mellow it out a bit. This one was a bit of an experient to see how defined I could make the B string. . . so it's 35" scale and asymetrical on the neck profile and very thick on the low side. You can really hear all those half steps on low B, C, D, but the treble and high mids are really too aggressive.

I'm a firm believer in nitro-cellulose lacquer and not-too-thick. . . because of the tone. But this one went too thin. Hey! It was my first time. How was i 'sposed to know 'til 5 years into service when it started cracking? If I strip it to re-finish, I won't have a bass to play, and I work 2 gigs. I wonder if there are any other minimal-rig people here who only use 1 instrument. Guess I'll probably have to wait 'til I complete another bass which will take eons before I put this one under the knife again.

King David
04-14-2006, 11:17 AM
Wow...I am at work and I had to show someone. The person did not appreciate the beauty of that floor and stair, but that was totally cool! I am envious!