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alexssandro 08-22-2001, 09:49 AM For the people who take lessons, I was wondering about the duration of your lessons and what you think. When I used to live in England, I took lessons by the hour. Hour-long lessons were just the standard, at least with the guys I studied with. But after I moved back to the States, I noticed that many instructors teach by the half-hour. For me, half-an-hour just isn't enough time for a quality lesson. By the time you sit down and tune up, you lose five minutes and during the last five minutes of your lesson you end up looking at your watch and getting ready to pack up. That leaves 20 minutes of real lesson time, which isn't really enough to get your mind to that absorbing state, plus you can't really ask many questions. (Of course, you can always remedy that by getting two lessons back-to-back. ;))
Also, how much do you guys spend on your lessons?
td1368 08-22-2001, 10:19 AM I asked for hour lessons but every other week due to other commitments. When I was looking around for instuctors most seemed accomodating to the duration. But your right most seem to want to start with 1/2 hour lessons. I don't know why? Attention span maybe.
Anyway I take 2 - 1 hour lessons a month and it costs 78 dollars.
jazzbo 08-22-2001, 10:25 AM Many instructors have turned to a half an hour, which I don't like at all. My teacher gives one hour lessons at $35 an hour, which is extremely cheap in SF. I've found instructors that are $50 to $75 an hour. My first teacher was $12 for an hour, and that wasn't all that long ago. :eek:
melvin 08-22-2001, 12:37 PM I had $40 a month but I was the only person that took bass lessons from the people I took lessons from, so the lessons went over the half hour thing because the teacher saw something in the book that he wanted to jam on.
I wish I could find another teacher. I know 2 other bassist that dont give lessons but do you think if I asked they would?
LimpChunk9 08-22-2001, 12:50 PM The closet place to me charges $22 per half hour.
I'm self taught.
Chris Fitzgerald 08-22-2001, 02:28 PM I charge $28 an hour for private lessons and have a waiting list. But remember, that's here in Kentucky, where 2 years ago my wife and I bought a 3 story, 108 year old, 3200 sq. foot brick house with 2 1/2 car garage (which, like the house, is heated and air conditioned) for a sum it would be distasteful to disclose. BUT, I can say that the folks who assess property for tax purposes valued the house at only $110,000 (probably because it sits in a neighborhood that is racially diverse), which suits me fine, since I'm the one paying taxes on the assessed value.
I only mention the house thing for perspective....I doubt that you could buy a TENT in San Francisco for $110,000. ;)
2BitBassPlayer 08-22-2001, 02:32 PM I take hour lesson the guy i take lessons from charges $17.50 fir 1/2 hour and $30 for 1 hour. 1/2 hour isn't long enought for me + in that hour lesson we do theory trumpet and bass.
nikofthehill 08-22-2001, 02:39 PM i take hour lessons from a teacher in sunnyvale, CA. he charges $35 for the hour and $20 for the 1/2 hour. (pretty cheap for the SF bay area )
tyburn 08-22-2001, 03:03 PM i live in the north of england, and i'm getting taught by an excellent jazz bassist for about £13 and hour less than $20, and to make it better, every so oftenh i'm taught by a guy who's studying jazz at uni, who does tv and stuff.
the best thing about lessons is the networking getting to know people, just visit your tutor for a chat, mines helping me finalise the 6 fretless i8'm gonna build
Rockin John 08-24-2001, 07:25 AM Slightly off thread but I take my 6 year-old son to drum lessons @ a shop who sells only drums / drum kits etc. The guy charges £8 per half hour or £14 per hour. We have a half hour every 2 weeks, currently.
The debate reges long and hard between us as to why he'd want to be a drummer when he could play bass. But as he points out, he's 6 and I'm coming on 50!!!!! If there's anyone out there who can figuer that, I wanna know.:D
John
I started out taking lessons from a guy at a guitar store, $14 for a half-hour. After a month of not learning anything at all, I started looking around for an in-home private teacher. I found a guy that teaches for $20 an hour. I live in Indianapolis.
IMHO, there is no way you can accomplish anything worthwhile in a 30 minutes lesson. Once you get started and into it, its almost time to finish. A one hour lesson is the way to go.
fisk
Rockin John 08-24-2001, 10:26 AM I agree, Fisk, but it depends on the age of the student and his/her standard of playing, I think.
After talking to the drum people at some length we decided on a half hour to begin with. ££ is part of the difficulty but I wanted so see how he adapted to drumming and, thus, whether or not it was worth further investment.
My lad's right at the start of his drumming 'career' having had only 3 lessons so far. The teacher went right in with written music and playing, and I can honestly say that after just 30 minutes the boy had had enough.
Young kids seem to have a short attention span, too. Certainly if he continues then we'll move to 60 minutes.
I'm sure that for older kids and certainly adults then, as you say, an hour is the minimum.
John
fretbuzz 08-24-2001, 10:27 AM i pay $14 per half hour (private, in home) but since im the last student of the day, i usually go to about 40 or 45 minutes.
Originally posted by Rockin John
I agree, Fisk, but it depends on the age of the student and his/her standard of playing, I think......
Young kids seem to have a short attention span, too. Certainly if he continues then we'll move to 60 minutes.
I'm sure that for older kids and certainly adults then, as you say, an hour is the minimum.
John
Hey John, you are absolutely right about that. I was speaking for myself. I'm 36 and still in my first year of playing. I want to get better NOW. I'd take lessons two hours a week if I could talk my wife into shelling out the bucks for it.
I'm glad to hear your getting your son started with lessons this early. My son is almost eight and I just took him to Mars last week and sat him down in front of a big drum set to see if was interested at all. After looking at the price and noise level of a drum set, my wife gave me the EVEL LOOK OF DEATH that I know so well... :D I'm still working on it though.
fisk
Rockin John 08-29-2001, 06:28 AM You clearly are a well-off guy. My missus gives me the EVIL LOOK OF DEATH at every conceivable opportunity, not just when perusing drum kits.
Over here we've pretty good kits @ £250 / £270. Matthew's decided he's having one! He's saved up really hard, done jobs for grandfather etc. About £100 to go: guess who'll be putting up the balance?
He's a pretty good player considering. He comes to rehersals and will play a couple of songs with the band. In terms of providing a correct, basic beat with basic fills there's really no difference between him and our drummer, other than perhaps volume. My son's 6, by the way!
John
stephanie 08-30-2001, 04:21 PM I take private lessons at a music store weekly: 1 half hour for $15. Can't accomplish much in a half hour it seems, but that's what the teacher gives for everyone. I am thankful to him for even giving lessons cuz he has an extremely busy schedule. And he has even offered to give me hour lessons. (Sometimes my lessons has run well over the half hour mark. LOL) I can't quite afford $30 a week right now, but it's in my thoughts. :)
gruffpuppy 08-30-2001, 04:24 PM I pay 50 Dollars per hour for lessons. Every other week.
XavierG 08-31-2001, 04:15 AM Originally posted by stephanie
I take private lessons at a music store weekly: 1 half hour for $15. Can't accomplish much in a half hour it seems, but that's what the teacher gives for everyone.
In half-an-hour, your teacher should cover enough material for you to take home and keep you busy (and learning) 'til the next lesson. (Well, that's how I do it anyways.) $30Canadian/30mins. Slightly higher for higher levels.
30 minute lesson each week, and it's $56 monthly
James Tippets 09-01-2001, 10:50 PM I take lessons in San Antonio at the century music for 50 dollars a month, half hour lessons once a week. So about $12.50 a half hour lesson.
Man do I feel lucky ! You guys are making me happy.
I've taken lessons from 4 different "instructors". Most couldn't teach a fish to swim. I got very lucky, and found a BIT trained guy here in town, who gives lessons out of his house for $20 per hour. Unfortunately for him, he is physically disabled, and couldn't gig if he wanted to. He probably could charge more. Average cost is $13 per half hour. I really believe that he just loves to teach, and is very good at it.
Dave
Hey Gman, I believe we have the same instructor, in fact, i'm sure we do. And yes, I feel very lucky to have found him also. I agree, he could charge more if he wanted to. I'd pay it.
what night of the week are you there? i'm on mondays. Maybe i'll see sometime.
fisk
MaX PoWeR 09-04-2001, 01:50 PM My guitar teacher; John kicks ass. He was never in a big band but he was one of the session players on Top Of The Pops (I think) and he played with a lot of famous people. He's a really good teacher and charges £10 for half an hour which I believe is $14.50. I don't know if you'd call it cheap or expensive but It's definetley worth it.:) :D
FatFunker 09-07-2001, 09:09 AM First of all if you teacher count's your plugging in, tuning up, and packing up, into your half hour or even hour lesson then the guy is a di*k.
My lessons are 45 bucks a month for half an hour a week. However the lessons usally go around an hour because my teacher usally gets so into it that he doesnt want to stop. But hey I'm not complaining.:p
Chris Fitzgerald 09-07-2001, 12:54 PM Originally posted by FatFunker
First of all if you teacher count's your plugging in, tuning up, and packing up, into your half hour or even hour lesson then the guy is a di*k.
:rolleyes:
My_man_Freddy 09-07-2001, 01:38 PM 30 minutes - £3.75
plus anytime when the next person is late!!:D which is usually quite often so it can be up to an hour for just £3.75:D
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