arbitrary
08-21-2006, 05:10 PM
So here's the sticky where we can all discuss it together.
I'm a big fan of Saturdays & Sundays.
So far no luck on dates!? :eyebrow:
I'm a big fan of Saturdays & Sundays.
So far no luck on dates!? :eyebrow:
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This is a search-engine-friendly text mirror of the TalkBass Forums arbitrary 08-21-2006, 05:10 PM So here's the sticky where we can all discuss it together. I'm a big fan of Saturdays & Sundays. So far no luck on dates!? :eyebrow: Passinwind 08-21-2006, 05:57 PM --subscribed-- 4Mal and I have thrown a lot of dates out for discussion with some of you, with no real joy so far. Hopefully going public will help things along.:cool: arbitrary 08-21-2006, 10:05 PM Well lets throw some more dates out there and see what'll work. My schedule is seriously OPEN, so lets get this done. C'mon you can play my Ritter! And I heard someone who might be comming just got a new Sadowsky. brothernewt 08-22-2006, 03:40 AM So here's the sticky where we can all discuss it together. It doesn't look stickied to me... :eyebrow: arbitrary 08-22-2006, 10:13 AM I asked a Mod to sticky it, I think thats the process. Rodent 08-22-2006, 10:33 AM I'm definitely interested if it's a Sat or Sun hang. A weekday evening would be impossible to attend as I'll be driving 3-4 hours each way depending on traffic. My absolute preference would be for a Sat hang, as I can then get a hotel on Sat night and drive home on Sun I'm also hoping this could take place in the second half of Sept or anytime in Oct all the best, R arbitrary 08-23-2006, 01:56 AM Thanks Mod(s)! BartmanPDX 08-27-2006, 11:59 PM I'm back from my vacation and eager to take part. Weekends are best for me; other than that I'm pretty flexible. I might not be able to make it on the weekend of Oct 7-8, as there is an autism conference I might be attending in Seattle. I'll bring my Sadowsky and Bergantino IP 310, as well as any of my other basses folks are interested in. Passinwind 08-29-2006, 01:14 PM I can get the use of a 300 seat club in Hood River OR on nearly any weekend during the day. If we do this on a Sunday, we can do an open/mike jam thing in the evening as well. The club will cater food, or we can bring in pizza or whatever if we want to. This venue is 1 hour from Portland, right off I-84. 4 hours from downtown Seattle. Some guys from the Tri Cities and Bend have expressed an interest in coming, and the drive's reasonable for them as well. I'd like to shoot for 1-5 on a Sunday for show-and-tell, then have maybe a clinic and dinner, followed by a jam. 4Mal and I can bring in a drummer or two, a guitarist or three, and maybe some horns if you guys are up for that. I can mix sound, and the house PA's not too bad. The biggest downside to this idea is that it would have to be 21 and over unless I can pull a lot of strings. So first, lets have a show of hands or some other suggestions for location, OK? And for starters, how does Oct 15th or 22nd work for everyone? arbitrary 08-29-2006, 01:25 PM Those dates and the location will work for me. Whats it like... 1-2 hours from Portland? Horns and other instruments would be great as well. Seems like it would be better than my 2 bedroom apt. Passinwind 08-29-2006, 01:30 PM Those dates and the location will work for me. Whats it like... 1-2 hours from Portland? 1 hour from the central downtown area, an easy and beautiful drive out I-84. There's hotel info here for those who might need it: http://www.gorge.net . If anyone wants to come out on Saturday and stay over, I can set up rafting, mtn. biking, or wine and beer tasting jaunts. Here's the club's website: http://www.rivercitysaloon.com . The official event hours will be 1-5PM on October 22nd. Rodent 08-29-2006, 01:30 PM the 21/22 is better for my work schedule - and I just might have a new Dark Star prototype (or two) ready to roll around that time as well due to my work schedule, I'll need to depart NLT 5ish on a Sun :( all the best, R Passinwind 08-29-2006, 01:48 PM the 21/22 is better for my work schedule - and I just might have a new Dark Star prototype (or two) ready to roll around that time as well due to my work schedule, I'll need to depart NLT 5ish on a Sun :( OK, the 22nd is better for me too I think. I might have a surprise or two to show off by then myself. Rodent, come on down on Saturday and hang out. I'll put together some sort of entertainment then as well. There's a hostel over here on the WA side that could hold a lot of TB'ers for pretty cheap, BTW. From Seattle, or especially the east side (Redmond, Kirkland, etc), it can be just as fast to drive out I-90 and come through Yakima. It's a lot mellower drive than I-5 a lot of the time, and the eastern Gorge is pretty killer in its own right. wyliee 08-29-2006, 04:08 PM Hey, I think I can make that weekend too! Hmmm.... What bass(es) to bring. I guess I'll have time to decide. Maybe a Warmoth goodie or two, but you have to play nice. -Eric. BartmanPDX 08-29-2006, 04:41 PM Location sounds great. I live on the west side, so it's a little further, but I'm not afraid of a nice drive. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to get away, but I'l do my best to be good to my wife in the meantime. If anyone has a good preamp or two they could bring, I'd really love it. I'm stuck with my Sansamp for now as a preamp for my Bergie IP310, and I'd like to try something else. Looks like there will be something of a wait for the Berg line driver comes out. arbitrary 08-29-2006, 05:13 PM If anyone has a good preamp or two they could bring, I'd really love it. I'm stuck with my Sansamp for now as a preamp for my Bergie IP310, and I'd like to try something else. Looks like there will be something of a wait for the Berg line driver comes out. I imagine I'll be bringing up my aguilar db659 Passinwind 08-29-2006, 05:18 PM If anyone has a good preamp or two they could bring, I'd really love it. Between Mal and me, we'll probably have an Alembic, an Ashly, and two of my homemade ones (one SS, and one tube) for starters. I also have a couple of different parametric EQs that make nice standalone preamps as well, especially if you have an active bass. wyliee 08-29-2006, 05:40 PM If anyone has a good preamp or two they could bring, I'd really love it. I'm stuck with my Sansamp for now as a preamp for my Bergie IP310, and I'd like to try something else. Looks like there will be something of a wait for the Berg line driver comes out. I've got a Read Purity and Raven Labs USIP that could come with me. BartmanPDX 08-29-2006, 07:09 PM You guys rock. Now there's just the matter of how to choose which one of those amazing preamps to hook up to the Bergie first . . . :D Lookin' forward to it! Rodent 08-29-2006, 07:27 PM I have a Raven Labs MBD-1 that will be in my bag ... could make for an easy A/B/C of different pre's, eh? I'll probably also have between five an 12 basses to bring along, as well as a Super RedHead and T.C.Electronics M-ONE ... all depends on what's currently in the shop and in the stable. a few might even be 'uncommissioned' ifyaknowwhatImean all the best, R BartmanPDX 08-29-2006, 11:00 PM I've got a Read Purity and Raven Labs USIP that could come with me. I'm seriously interested in getting the opportunity to try the Read Purity. It's on my short list of preamps to try. :) arbitrary 08-30-2006, 12:52 PM I really want to try that Lakland Bartman, mabye if you still have it then. Hopefully by then I'll have a ca9, so I can have fun with this preamp fun going around. I'll still want to try out some gk stuff though. Zharlon 08-30-2006, 09:21 PM This sounds great....I'm coming out of Yakima, and can attest to the beautiful drive.....really nice part of the country here....Weekend dates work for me, and I can offer a DB750 and a few cabs to the mix if it would help.... Kyle BartmanPDX 08-31-2006, 12:53 AM I really want to try that Lakland Bartman, mabye if you still have it then. Hopefully by then I'll have a ca9, so I can have fun with this preamp fun going around. I'll still want to try out some gk stuff though. I'm surprised it hasn't sold yet -- I had a lot of interest when I was waffling about selling it, but no one's committed yet. If it's still around, I'll be happy to bring it. Otherwise, my daughter enters school next week, and I'll be free during the morning and early afternoon if you're out on the west side (Rock Creek area). :) arbitrary 08-31-2006, 12:19 PM isn't that a bit far? :smug: Passinwind 08-31-2006, 02:09 PM OK, I talked to the club manager in Hood River last night. I think Oct 22 is going to work for the club, but we will confirm that tonight or tomorrow once he checks all his booking info. Sounds like we have a lot of killer gear lined up already. Some of what I'll bring besides the preamps: QSC PLX 1804 AI Focus Series II EA CxL-112 AccuGroove Tri112L Schroeder 1210R BSX electric upright Crescent Moon fretless 4 Travis Bean fretless 4 Plus hopefully a few surprises I'm pretty sure none of you will have ever seen before...:ninja: Audere 08-31-2006, 03:07 PM I can bring a few external preamps Aguilar DB 680 Avalon U5 Demeter VTBP-201s And a few basses with internal preamps BartmanPDX 08-31-2006, 03:35 PM isn't that a bit far? :smug: Not for me. :p :hiding: Seriously, if you ever find yourself heading out toward Hillsboro some day, you could send me a PM. Oct. 22 looks good. arbitrary 08-31-2006, 03:47 PM I can bring a few external preamps Aguilar DB 680 Avalon U5 Demeter VTBP-201s And a few basses with internal preamps Basses with Audere preamps? That would be very fantastic! Very curious to hear one. arbitrary 08-31-2006, 03:49 PM Not for me. :p :hiding: Seriously, if you ever find yourself heading out toward Hillsboro some day, you could send me a PM. Oct. 22 looks good. Ah! Hillsboro. I mapquested rock creek and it came up 250 miles from portland. Maybe I could stop by on Thursday? BartmanPDX 08-31-2006, 09:30 PM Ah! Hillsboro. I mapquested rock creek and it came up 250 miles from portland. Maybe I could stop by on Thursday? LOL. Perhaps I should have written "Tanasbourne/NW 185th" instead. Thursday should be fine, any time before 2:30. I'll PM you directions. Passinwind 09-02-2006, 01:27 PM OK, Oct 22nd is a confirmed date. Maybe Arbitrary can get a mod to change the thread title to reflect this? I'l check in on food choices and whatnot in a couple of days. I have an insane holiday weekend schedule. -------Charlie Rodent 09-02-2006, 01:57 PM Oct 22 added to my calendar all the best, R arbitrary 09-03-2006, 12:09 AM OK, Oct 22nd is a confirmed date. Maybe Arbitrary can get a mod to change the thread title to reflect this? I'l check in on food choices and whatnot in a couple of days. I have an insane holiday weekend schedule. -------Charlie Yeah, yeah, yeah you damned lazy bum. One sec.... Done! Thanks Mods! Will there be costs involved in the venue and food choices? Not a problem, just wanted to know. Lee Barker 09-06-2006, 03:32 PM Eric Wylie put me on to this thread--sounds interesting. I may be free enough to bring over a couple of Barkers if there's curiosity. You might be the first "non-family" types to play the B2 with the split P pickup. I'll drop in here occasionally to keep meself informed. To see what I'm palaverin' about, visit the Barker Bass forum under Sponsored Forums. Review in the latest BassPlayer. Lee Barker arbitrary 09-06-2006, 04:05 PM Eric Wylie put me on to this thread--sounds interesting. I may be free enough to bring over a couple of Barkers if there's curiosity. You might be the first "non-family" types to play the B2 with the split P pickup. I'll drop in here occasionally to keep meself informed. To see what I'm palaverin' about, visit the Barker Bass forum under Sponsored Forums. Review in the latest BassPlayer. Lee Barker I'd be damned curious to try one out. Passinwind 09-06-2006, 11:15 PM Will there be costs involved in the venue and food choices? Not a problem, just wanted to know. The venue owes me on several levels, so the space is completely free to all of you. There's a decent PA there, which I maintain and occasionally mix on. 4Mal has some experience mixing on it too. We'll have full access to the PA and lighting equipment. Food and beverages (full bar) will be 'available' at the club's usual rates unless I make some special arrangement, and I could probably order in a specialty local-brewed keg and/or better wine than they usually stock. I'll talk to the cook about maybe doing a special or two at a bro deal rate too. BartmanPDX 09-07-2006, 05:20 PM I'd be damned curious to try one out. +1 on that. I'm getting older and finding that I'm having to wear my bass higher to avoid wrist fatigue. The Barkers look like they would be a lot of fun to try. bwbass 09-07-2006, 06:33 PM I'll be there! I'll bring an ABG or two and my wenge/ash warmoth Dinky J with Aero's. Rodent 09-07-2006, 07:24 PM Hey Brian Cool! I'll be looking forward to talking composites with you all the best, R fish slapper 09-08-2006, 12:14 AM Thanks for the heads up, Breakinwind. Check out my profile to see if there's anything you want to try. Don't really have groovelishous gear but a fine DB rig. Mark MJ5150 09-08-2006, 10:16 PM I won't be there. Looks to be a great time. If anyone coming from up this way wants to take my iAMP800 or Bergie 210, let me know. -Mike arbitrary 09-13-2006, 01:14 AM Anyone have a GK head they feel like bringing? I know its not no fancy smancy name, but hey, I'm curious. BartmanPDX 09-13-2006, 01:19 AM Anyone have a GK head they feel like bringing? I know its not no fancy smancy name, but hey, I'm curious. I have that old GK 400RB (circa 1991). It's not much, but I did have it fully serviced recently. :hmm: It sounds better through something besides that crappy old Hartke 410XL it's hooked up to right now. arbitrary 09-13-2006, 01:24 AM I have that old GK 400RB (circa 1991). It's not much, but I did have it fully serviced recently. :hmm: It sounds better through something besides that crappy old Hartke 410XL it's hooked up to right now. oh snap! I forgot about that! I gots a mission-ish. Just for the sake of options, anybody else have anything that they could bring gk-wise? PluperfectArson 09-19-2006, 04:27 AM Bart sent me a PM about this, and I'd be definitely interested in coming. I don't really have any gear to bring (not that it's all that special or top of the line), but most of you have been playing for a longer while than I have, and I don't have much of an income at the moment. I'd definitely be interested in coming out, though, just to meet people and say "hi" and whatnot. I currently live out in Beaverton, but I'm moving out to Clackamas (Happy Valley-area) sometime this week. This sounds like it'd be fun, though. Also, arbitrary, how much are you selling that SVT4 for? arbitrary 10-07-2006, 02:54 AM Its comming up. I'm getting kinda excited. Passinwind 10-07-2006, 02:54 PM Its comming up. I'm getting kinda excited. Me too! I've got an out of town gig (in Yakima, go figure) the night before, so I'll be driving in that morning like most everyone else now too.:cool: Zharlon 10-09-2006, 08:53 PM Me too! I've got an out of town gig (in Yakima, go figure) the night before, so I'll be driving in that morning like most everyone else now too.:cool: Where ya playing in Yakima? I live here in Yakima and have a gig on Fri. night......possibly are ya playin at the........Sportcenter? Kyle Passinwind 10-09-2006, 10:36 PM Where ya playing in Yakima? I live here in Yakima and have a gig on Fri. night......possibly are ya playin at the........Sportcenter? Hi Kyle, I'm doing a $45 a plate Chamber Of Commerce 'hangar dance'/dinner at the antique aircraft museum up there. It's a jazz trio deal with keys and a diva. I might even have to put on a tie for this one. Even goofier: it's sold out! PM me if anything fun's going on much after 10 PM, I should be done by then I think.:cool: arbitrary 10-12-2006, 06:01 PM After trying a few diff. preamps lately; if anyone has either a demeter pre or an ampeg pre and could bring it, that would be lovely. I'll re-read this thread as well. I think someone said something along those lines. fish slapper 10-13-2006, 05:05 PM Hey, I think I can make that weekend too! Hmmm.... What bass(es) to bring. I guess I'll have time to decide. Maybe a Warmoth goodie or two, but you have to play nice. -Eric. I'll bring my Warmoth fret-less Tele-J if you promise not to laugh at my amateur building skills.:smug: BTW: looks like I might be in the market for a Power amp/pre-amp rack so looking forward to what I see on the thread so far. Any DB players wanna check out a Schro mini 12+ through an AI Clarus? Passinwind 10-13-2006, 05:54 PM BTW: looks like I might be in the market for a Power amp/pre-amp rack so looking forward to what I see on the thread so far. Any DB players wanna check out a Schro mini 12+ through an AI Clarus? I'd like to check out the mini 12+, for sure. I'll bring some nice upright-oriented rigs for you to scope too. Which series Clarus is yours? fish slapper 10-13-2006, 06:58 PM I'd like to check out the mini 12+, for sure. I'll bring some nice upright-oriented rigs for you to scope too. Which series Clarus is yours? III (the current model) BartmanPDX 10-14-2006, 05:20 PM I'm still hoping/fearing that Lee Barker will be bringing that B2 prototype. Hoping, because I've really wanted to give one a try. Fearing, because the last thing I should be doing right now is buying another bass. On my part, I'll be lugging my Bergantino IP310, my Phil Jones Bass Buddy, and my Sadowsky Metro UV70. I'd love to try some other preamps. I might also have to bring my Reverend, because it's just such a great bass. Most of my other basses are pretty run-of-the-mill, so I won't be bringing them unless there is interest: Tacoma 5-string ABG, 1981 Ric 4003, etc. arbitrary 10-15-2006, 10:42 AM I'm curious to try the Rev' out. Bring it. I'm trying to figure out as well what the crap I should bring as far as cabs and basses. I have the eden 4x10 and the Berg. NV610. I could fit both, but only if anybody really wants to hear another eden 4x10. Will anybody want to try a Carvin LB70 or a Modulus Flea (both four string)? Maybe I should buy another banana speaker cable and run one side of the ca9 through the f1-x pre going into the eden 4x10 and then the other side of the ca9 w/the gk pre going into the nv610. Sounds a bit rediculous though. But somehow kinda cool. Let me know if I should bring the Carvin, Modulus, or Eden cab. Rodent 10-15-2006, 11:18 AM I just might have a '51 Tele P5 in a case ... just might :D for those who've read the thread in the Basses forum, you know the one I'm referring to R Passinwind 10-15-2006, 11:53 AM Maybe I should buy another banana speaker cable and run one side of the ca9 through the f1-x pre going into the eden 4x10 and then the other side of the ca9 w/the gk pre going into the nv610. Sounds a bit rediculous though. But somehow kinda cool. I'll bring a bunch of cables and adapters. I can even make some on the spot if needed. The River City is 'only' a 300 seater, but we can get ridiculous if we feel lke it.:cool: The club manager says he'll do the regular menu from mid-afternoon on, which means ribs, phad thai, curry, and a few other ethnic plates, but if we want to call out for pizza or subs or whatever that's no problem. One more thing to consider: the Hood River Harvest Fest will be going on a few blocks away that day. If anyone wants to come early they can easily check that out too. It opens at 10am on Sunday. Harvest Fest Info (http://www.hoodriver.org/HRCCC_MemberTemplate.asp?MemberINDX=503) 4Mal 10-15-2006, 12:26 PM Well, I'm bringing the low brow gear ... Reverend 4, Dark Star P, JB-2 with Rio's if anyones interested to try. Alembic F2B QSC 2402 Avatar neo 2x12 Bag End 2x10 coax Radial BassBone if it arrives by then On the flip side, I live in WA 10 min from the club and have some room available. If some o' you from a distance want to layover Saturday evening I can room a few. 3 easy, 4 or 5 with a little effort. Gotta spare queen, king, pullout and an inflatable ... I think I've got bedding to go around... on a first reserved basis. email to malcolm.brown@thomson.com for deet's. I'll be gone through Wednesday evening but will see email a couple of times a day. Be sure to use GTG in the title! This is my biz email not the one in my profile. I can't guarantee that I'll see the personal email or PM's between Monday and Wednesday night late. I was at Fearless Guitar's in Stumptown Sat and mentioned this to Chance (the proprietor). He might drop out with his Kubicki and a Bergie ip112. Seems like a low key guy, definately not a GC type ... BartmanPDX 10-15-2006, 03:32 PM I was at Fearless Guitar's in Stumptown Sat and mentioned this to Chance (the proprietor). He might drop out with his Kubicki and a Bergie ip112. Seems like a low key guy, definately not a GC type ... Chance is a great dude, and a pretty darn good tech BTW. :) arbitrary 10-16-2006, 12:41 AM I'm curious to see how the f2b compares to the f1x lamborghini98 10-17-2006, 12:02 AM Ah.. Ive been out of the loop! I get back to Portland on Saturday evening at around 11:45 pm, so I can make the GTG under two conditions: 1. The place is NOT 21/over 2. I can hitch a ride with someone : ) (or if public transportation is possible, I can take that). I go to/live at Reed college, which is on SE Woodstock off 39th. What do I have to bring to the table? If I can come, Id def bring my Nordstrand NJ4 Deluxe. Isnt that reason enough for someone to give me a ride? Passinwind 10-17-2006, 12:14 AM Ah.. Ive been out of the loop! I get back to Portland on Saturday evening at around 11:45 pm, so I can make the GTG under two conditions: 1. The place is NOT 21/over Err, sorry, but this event is 21 and over.:hmm: But how about trying to organize an all-ages GTG at Reed sometime? arbitrary 10-17-2006, 12:42 AM Ah.. Ive been out of the loop! I get back to Portland on Saturday evening at around 11:45 pm, so I can make the GTG under two conditions: 1. The place is NOT 21/over 2. I can hitch a ride with someone : ) (or if public transportation is possible, I can take that). I go to/live at Reed college, which is on SE Woodstock off 39th. What do I have to bring to the table? If I can come, Id def bring my Nordstrand NJ4 Deluxe. Isnt that reason enough for someone to give me a ride? I live about 10 blocks from you on Francis and 39th!!! silky smoove 10-17-2006, 01:26 PM I'm trying to make it to this. If there are any Tri-Cities TB'ers who want to carpool PLEASE shoot me a PM. I'll be able to bring down my rack (Furman PL-PlusDM, Korg DTR-1000, Avalon U5, and QSC PLX1602), my SWR Workingman's 8x10 Tower, a wretchedly beatup 1983 Peavey Foundation 4-string, and my custom Warmoth/Status/DiMarzio jazz bass... if anyone's interested in playing on any of that. wyliee 10-17-2006, 02:53 PM 1 hour from the central downtown area, an easy and beautiful drive out I-84. There's hotel info here for those who might need it: http://www.gorge.net . If anyone wants to come out on Saturday and stay over, I can set up rafting, mtn. biking, or wine and beer tasting jaunts. Here's the club's website: http://www.rivercitysaloon.com . I reviewed the thread and didn't see setup or loadout times. What's the plan? -Eric. Passinwind 10-17-2006, 03:27 PM I reviewed the thread and didn't see setup or loadout times. What's the plan? Oops...I must have messed that up during one of my edits! I'll go back and fix that right now. Load-in at 1PM, load out around 5. The club does an open mike Sunday nights starting around 6-ish, so anyone who wants to stay and jam is welcome to do so, but we'll need to clear a bunch of gear off the stage I expect. I've invited a few local guitar players, a drummer, and a couple of horn players for the open mike. Mal and I will be running the show, so let us know if you want a turn. I think 4mal may be handling the load-in phase since I have to drive back into the Gorge that morning myself. I'll ask the club to block off a few parking spaces for load-in if possible. Bob Lee graciously offered us the use of the QSC ABX comparator, so hopefully we can do a little double-blind testing. Anyone have a Crown MA, Stewart 2.1, or PLX 3402 they want to haul? We'll at least try a CA-9 vs. a PLX of some flavor. Looking forward to meeting a bunch more TB'ers this weekend! arbitrary 10-17-2006, 11:52 PM Whats the address there? After load in will we have to park somewhere a few blocks down? Does anybody want to play a Modulus Flea or a Carvin LB70 (4 strings)? Speak up or I won't bring it; I won't be offended if nobody does. :p I also have 2 older model single Eden 1x10 cabs around that are sorta just sitting here. I'll be bringing the Ritter of course. :D I just got the gk pre in as well the ca9. Edit: I found the Address. And in other news, Brothernewt won't be able to make it, but has offered to lend us his SVP-Pro/SVP-CL/Stewart rig. So we have a stewart power amp to throw into the "blind" testing. Passinwind 10-18-2006, 09:50 AM Whats the address there? After load in will we have to park somewhere a few blocks down? The River City Saloon is at 207 Cascade St. Cascade is just a block south on 2nd off the downtown Hood River exit on I-84, which is exit 63. The club occupies most of the block, so it's fairly hard to miss! There's a map on the RCS website: www.rivercitysaloon.com. The parking depends on the luck of the draw, but we'll try to at least keep the loading zone viable. No need to feed the meters on a Sunday though. fish slapper 10-18-2006, 12:13 PM I also have 2 older model single Eden 1x10 cabs around that are sorta just sitting here. . I didn't even know Eden made 1x10 cabs until you posted this. I'd be interested in hearing them as I'm a Jazzer so always interested in tasty small rigs. Any other DB players coming? If not, I'll leave the doghouse at home and bring the Warmoth Tele-J and one of my Fender MIAs to try stuff out with. If any of you guys have a Shadowsky, I'd love to check that out. :bassist: Although, I'm going to be in Manhattan on business in a couple weeks so I might try to sneak over to their shop and finger the goodies.:ninja: Passinwind 10-18-2006, 12:16 PM Any other DB players coming? If not, I'll leave the doghouse at home and bring the Warmoth Tele-J and one of my Fender MIAs to try stuff out with. I've invited a couple of local DB'ers, so there may be an URB available anyway. I'm bringing my EUB for sure. arbitrary 10-18-2006, 04:04 PM I didn't even know Eden made 1x10 cabs until you posted this. I'd be interested in hearing them as I'm a Jazzer so always interested in tasty small rigs. If any of you guys have a Shadowsky, I'd love to check that out. :bassist: Although, I'm going to be in Manhattan on business in a couple weeks so I might try to sneak over to their shop and finger the goodies.:ninja: Did you want me to bring both of the 1x10 cabs I have or just one? And I'm pretty sure bartaramadingdude has a Sadowsky, I mean I played it, and he loves it, so I hope he still has it. fish slapper 10-18-2006, 04:56 PM Just one I guess. I wanted to try it with my AI clarus on a DB. Sometimes smaller speakers respond better to Double bass (sort of counter intuitive). But I dunno, someone might be interested in two halves of an Eden 2x10. Some of us older guys can't herf the big cabs anymore. :crying: :crying: arbitrary 10-18-2006, 05:10 PM I'll see what I have room for, but I'll grab both if they fit. I heard a lot about DB players using them when the cabs were still being produced. I think they have some other 1x10 cabs on their site, but smaller than these cabs. To me they get better bootie than my 4x10 xlt eden. I usually just use one 1x10 cab for my jazz gigs. PluperfectArson 10-18-2006, 08:51 PM Hey, I just read through the rest of this, and edgebass5 from MusicianForums (I don't know if his username is the same over here) notified me over at MX about this, but I already knew about it. He told me that it was 21+, though, so I had to come over here to make sure. It looks like I won't be coming seeing as I am only 18.:( I promise I won't drink!:) Anyway, I hope it turns out well for you all! BartmanPDX 10-19-2006, 01:15 AM If any of you guys have a Shadowsky, I'd love to check that out. :bassist: Although, I'm going to be in Manhattan on business in a couple weeks so I might try to sneak over to their shop and finger the goodies.:ninja: I have a Metro UV70 5-string that will be coming with me. You're more than welcome to give it a go. :) silky smoove 10-20-2006, 11:14 AM Hey, I just read through the rest of this, and edgebass5 from MusicianForums (I don't know if his username is the same over here) My username over here is Silky Smoove :bassist: arbitrary 10-21-2006, 03:49 AM I just picked up brothernewt's rig for the gtg since he can't make it: stewart 1.2 and a couple ampeg preamps. Very nice and trusting of him since hes never met me. Thanks and don't worry it'll make it back to you. 4Mal 10-21-2006, 10:25 AM We ain't got no Bass NW type store, but the one we're gathering at does have a bunch of PJB and there should be some interesting basses. So in case any of you are up this way Sun Nov. 19th : http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282470 Have fun at your party. Well we don't have any Bass NW type store either. We'd be out in the sticks east of Portland about a 4 hours drive to Bass NW ... about 1.5 hours to GC which makes most of us here somewhat net-biased. 4Mal 10-21-2006, 10:27 AM I'm curious to see how the f2b compares to the f1x Me as well. I'll have to pull the top and see what I have in there for tubes at the moment. Last I recell Uncle Ned at Lord Valve provided a Chinese 'grey-plate' and either a Tung SOL reissue or NOS JAN Phillips for the other side... brothernewt 10-21-2006, 01:54 PM I just picked up brothernewt's rig for the gtg since he can't make it: stewart 1.2 and a couple ampeg preamps. Very nice and trusting of him since hes never met me. Thanks and don't worry it'll make it back to you. I work at 911. I have access to Portland Police records, DMV records, and know when the lazy cops are on duty where you live! :eek: JK... :D you seem like good people. It was nice to have you and your other half over for a few last night. When you bring it back, you can bring in one of your basses and test drive the VR a little more if you like. Rodent 10-21-2006, 02:09 PM I won't be making it :bawl: my wife hurt her back at the end of this week, and she's pretty immobile at the moment. If things take a positive turn, I might be able to drive down on Sun ... but I'm thinking it's not going to happen. Dang! I was sooooooo looking forward to hangin' with all y'all and getting some feedback on a few prototypes I've been working. all the best, R BartmanPDX 10-21-2006, 04:54 PM I won't be making it :bawl: my wife hurt her back at the end of this week, and she's pretty immobile at the moment. If things take a positive turn, I might be able to drive down on Sun ... but I'm thinking it's not going to happen. Dang! I was sooooooo looking forward to hangin' with all y'all and getting some feedback on a few prototypes I've been working. all the best, R That's too bad . . . :( arbitrary 10-21-2006, 09:07 PM its almost time, I need to start practicing so you all think I'm the best ever......yeap.....ever. Seriously though; it'll be a fun time had by all. fish slapper 10-21-2006, 10:52 PM :D :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: arbitrary 10-22-2006, 04:13 AM Hey Mr. Audere-guy (Insert first name, I'll shoot for Paul)- I sent you a pm about possibly bringing a sansamp RBI if you get this in time. Just convering all my basses. EDIT: Was anyone able to get ahold of a crown poweramp? fish slapper 10-22-2006, 10:56 PM Had a great time meeting you guys. Thanks to Passinwind for hosting. Dave from Audere, you'll definatley be hearing from me soon to pimp up at least one of my J basses.:hyper: Arbitrary, good luck on finding the discontinued pre. BTW, you've got some major chops, dude. Send some gig spam my way when you play out. 4mal, you're Dark Starred P was the hit ax in my book. Would love to chat with you and Passinwind some more about my GAS for a QSC/ pre TBD rack set-up. Thanks again to all. It was a blast.:bassist: :bassist: :bassist: needmoney 10-23-2006, 03:46 AM Had a great time meeting you guys. Thanks to Passinwind for hosting. Dave from Audere, you'll definatley be hearing from me soon to pimp up at least one of my J basses.:hyper: Arbitrary, good luck on finding the discontinued pre. BTW, you've got some major chops, dude. Send some gig spam my way when you play out. 4mal, you're Dark Starred P was the hit ax in my book. Would love to chat with you and Passinwind some more about my GAS for a QSC/ pre TBD rack set-up. Thanks again to all. It was a blast.:bassist: :bassist: :bassist: Pics :hyper: arbitrary 10-23-2006, 03:57 AM Arbitrary, good luck on finding the discontinued pre. BTW, you've got some major chops, dude. Send some gig spam my way when you play out. Thanks duder, I'll find the time someday to play meaningful notes instead of whidlee whidlee. I know the cover band I'm in is playing Nov. 3rd and 4th in the Gresham/Damascus area. I enjoyed the Audere pre a lot as well. I think it'll come between that and a bart pre...hmmmm And I've started my quest for the Read pre already. Wish me luck. :D But god damned there was so much fun stuff to play through it was hard to divide my time between people and gear. We should do it again!!! :hyper: :bassist: My brain was a wreck afterwards. I know a few people took some pics, but I can't remember who. I was going to, but couldn't devide my time accordingly. So those who took some pics...lets see 'em. Everyone; thank you, it was great to meet all of you and I look forward to do it again, we'll just need more time next time. BartmanPDX 10-23-2006, 11:03 AM That was a lot of fun. A huge "thank you" to Charlie (Passinwind) for hosting and setting it all up. I had a blast. There was almost too much fantastic gear though -- one fabulous bass after another, one amazing rig after another. My head is still spinning. Some things that did stand out: 1. In the preamp mini-shootout, I have to agree with arbitrary. All of the preamps I heard had things to like, but if I could choose one for myself, it would be the Read purity. I'm really hoping that the rumors of a second-generation Read preamp are true. I would love to try one with my IP310, and didn't get the chance to try out the pairing yesterday--my loss. The Raven labs pre sounded really good too, as did the Alembic. A surprise was how good the Sansamp RBI sounded with the IP310. 2. To my ears, the best rig was the Read + Crest CA-9 + Berg NV610. That combination killed, IMO. I was also quite fond of the Accugroove rig brought by wyliee, with the Read and Stewart combination. Great sound, and the weight of those cabs is incredible. 3. Too many basses to pick just one, but I really liked the sound of 4mal's Darkstarred P (didn't try it myself -- again, my loss), and was pretty impressed with the sound of Audere preamp in a Fender Jazz. The David King bass was an unexpected surprise. Very lightweight, comfortable to play, terrific tone, can't say enough about it. Wyliee's 6-string Bee bass won my award for most unusual, and was an incredible player, but more bass than this ham-fisted numbskull can handle. Another standout was 4mal's orange Reverend P/J -- excellent sound. I'd tried arbitrary's Ritter before, and it continues to impress. In the end, it was all somewhat of a blur. I didn't get to try out as much stuff as I would have liked, since when more than one person was playing at a time it got muddy, but it was a great time nonetheless, and I hope we can do it again someday. Maybe less gear, or more time. A fantastic bunch of players, too -- all really good folks there. It was great getting to meet everyone! No pics from me. My digital camera broke last month and I still haven't gotten a new one. Passinwind 10-23-2006, 11:22 AM There was almost too much fantastic gear though -- one fabulous bass after another, one amazing rig after another. My head is still spinning. Jah, mon! As things were winding down, I was thinking : "what hasn't been played by anyone yet?" Arbitrary's Alembic Distillate...wha??? And of course it's smokin', but so was every single other piece I played through or heard. Wyliee asked me at one point what had impressed me the most, and I told him that it was how many great options we all have these days -- really! His acoustic bass was really cool though, both played acoustic and through his rig. And Dave at Audere is bound to be the big winner from the GTG, I think. I'm putting money on it right now myself! The manager at the the River City, Shawn, who was our bartender yesterday, kept asking me what bands you all play in. Anybody who might want a gig there can arrange to get me a demo or I'll give you direct contact info. Shawn really liked the event and the playing skills he heard. We can certainly do it again, maybe with a clinic as part of the event next time. There was a lot more I would have liked to have done, but at least we got the ball rolling a bit. A million thanks to all of you who came. I'd love to hang with all of you a bunch more.:bassist: fish slapper 10-23-2006, 01:05 PM 2. To my ears, the best rig was the Read + Crest CA-9 + Berg NV610. Agreed for the "if you had the muscles and all the dough available" catagory. But in the "Keep it light and simple" category, Passinwind's DIY rig smoked. Charlie, how do you feel about a "commission"?;) 3. Too many basses to pick just one, but I really liked the sound of 4mal's Darkstarred P (didn't try it myself -- again, my loss), Man, you really missed out. Not only did it sound great, it played like budda. In the end, it was all somewhat of a blur. No doubt. I'm still trying to get my head around all the power amp and pre combos. Was on my list to check out but got distracted with other things. I definately would be up for another session especially to have you more tech savvy guys take me to school on these rigs. wyliee 10-23-2006, 01:06 PM Thanks duder, I'll find the time someday to play meaningful notes instead of whidlee whidlee. I know the cover band I'm in is playing Nov. 3rd and 4th in the Gresham/Damascus area. Everyone; thank you, it was great to meet all of you and I look forward to do it again, we'll just need more time next time. I agree completely! We need more time for some serious testing. Perhaps we should bring in a drummer and guitarist to beat up for a few hours too. Arbitrary, I don't think you went too whidlee/whidlee at all. Far from it. Good greasy funk! Best part of the day for me was hearing guys playing actual bass lines instead of it being one massive chops fest. All the gear sounded great. The Audere preamps sound very cool and it was cool talking tech with Dave. I'll be sure to keep a waiting list for the Read in case I ever decide to part with it. (However unlikely that may be unless someone has a Neve or Trident channel strip....) -Eric. Passinwind 10-23-2006, 01:29 PM I agree completely! We need more time for some serious testing. Perhaps we should bring in a drummer and guitarist to beat up for a few hours too. Heh...Mal and I did that after you guys left. I didn't leave the club until after 10. I could have had 'em show up earlier, but next time we could do that if you guys want. The drummer really would have liked to play with you all. I'll be sure to keep a waiting list for the Read in case I ever decide to part with it. (However unlikely that may be unless someone has a Neve or Trident channel strip....) Yeesh, yet another thing we coulda talked about yesterday!:cool: A DIY old school channel strip is definitely on my to-do list at the moment. There are actually some nice kits out there if you look hard enough. 4Mal 10-23-2006, 01:36 PM The Read was a delight for sure. Man the bottom on that thing... First thing I've heard that has made my F2B break a sweat. The ABG that Eric brought was way cool. Don't know if I'll ever need to take that plunge again but if I do, that one would be on a very short list. I too was knocked out with Dave's pre. I'm like the anti-onboard pre guy and that one got my attention in a big way. Dave's J was cool, but pale in comparison to the L2K - anybody else try that one ? Man... A big thanks to fish Slapper for playing through my rig whilst I twiddled volumes back and forth between the Avatar 2x12 and Bag End 2x10. There is just no substitute for hearing your rig from 30 feet out with an actual bassist playing through it. It gave me a much better understanding of how those cabs fit. Thanks for the kind works on the Reverend and the Dark Star P. The credit goes to Fred for the pickup and to Craig Wilson at http://www.whitesalmonguitar.com/ for the setup work. Any of you PDX'ers that are thinking setup could do worse in spite of the drive. Craig is a very talented guy. PW's homebrew wizardry is nothing new to me after a couple of amp rebuilds and myriad question / answer, beer and open mic sessions... What is suprising is that he hasn't gone into production with that preamp of his ... I'm of course waiting to see what happens with the whole Speaker Power module thing. Thanks to all you guys for coming out. If nothing else we ought to get a players night assembled for one Sunday evening's open mic. oh yeah - Arbitrary, next time you come could you tie a couple of finger's together. Either hand would be OK ... Only kidding, that was some very nice playing! Passinwind 10-23-2006, 01:42 PM Agreed for the "if you had the muscles and all the dough available" catagory. But in the "Keep it light and simple" category, Passinwind's DIY rig smoked. Charlie, how do you feel about a "commission"?;) I originally built that preamp to run into my Focus for BG gigs. We coulda/woulda/shoulda plugged it into your Clarus. That new Clarus is a nice piece BTW. I thought about bringing along my computer and doing a "design an amp voicing" project with you guys. Arbitrary's Ritter was way too sizzly with the DSP settings I had programmed into the amp, for instance. But those same settings worked really well last night in the mix with guitar and drums and my Crescent Moon fretless. My drummer absolutely loved it. Mal's still not a Schro fan though, but we both take that as a given by now! The DSP in the amp module opens up a lot of options, and finding the right compromises is quite the challenge. I'd guess Jim Bergantino spent some serious time dialing in the IPs. wyliee 10-23-2006, 03:11 PM The ABG that Eric brought was way cool. Don't know if I'll ever need to take that plunge again but if I do, that one would be on a very short list. Just a quick note: The ABG was made by bwbass and is easily one of the best sounding ABGs I've ever played. Anyone looking for an ABG should contact Brian. PW: Shoot me a list of channel strip kit sites!!! 4Mal 10-23-2006, 03:23 PM Just a quick note: The ABG was made by bwbass and is easily one of the best sounding ABGs I've ever played. Anyone looking for an ABG should contact Brian. That's a nice piece of work that ABG is! 4Mal 10-23-2006, 03:28 PM Just a quick note: The ABG was made by bwbass and is easily one of the best sounding ABGs I've ever played. Anyone looking for an ABG should contact Brian. PW: Shoot me a list of channel strip kit sites!!! Mal's still not a Schro fan though, but we both take that as a given by now! yup. Acoustic 360 in a can is what I call 'em ... (flame shield on captain!) but then again with my collection of loose ends and odd balls and scratch 'n dent that I call a rig .. .I'd be living in a glass house. Go figure that out of the rig's I tried or listened to, the Read/Crest/nv610 did it for me... and of course 2/3's of that rig is no longer made ... ' course all of this stuff comes down to ears. Anybody there could have taken my rig out to a gig and found something workable as I could take something Schro based and figure out how to work it to my advantage. When an Alembic pre, dbx comp, QSC power and Bag End cab is the bottom feeder, it's a fairly serious lineup ... oh yeah, I totally forgot about Bartman's Reverend 5. I gotta find out where that guy lives so that one dark night ... I don't like 5's, I don't like actives... I go to this little soiree and come home gassing for an active pre and a 5. Jeeze louise! Passinwind 10-23-2006, 04:29 PM yup. Acoustic 360 in a can is what I call 'em ... (flame shield on captain!) Hmmm...images of an up-front, psycho, hippie bass player playing to adoring masses...I think I can live with that! :smug: fish slapper 10-23-2006, 04:34 PM Yeah, I thought I'd escaped gas-free but the Audere has me itchin'. If they only made it with a gold face plate for the Tele J. :eek: :crying: You know; you need the bling, if you're gonna make it sing. I'm on the fence if I want one in my MIA J. I'm kind of old school in that a good stock Fender J can get the job done most of the time. And I'm kind of proud that its a bass I haven't ehem - "improved" (read, "messed up"). But that Audere did sound mighty tasty.:hiding: BartmanPDX 10-23-2006, 05:04 PM Agreed for the "if you had the muscles and all the dough available" catagory. Hey, a guy can dream, can't he? :p You know it's a GTG with a lot of amazing gear when there's an Alembic that nobody picks up, a Sadowsky that barely gets noticed, and a couple of Accugroove cabs laying around unplugged. :D I now know what I really want in my next bass: A five-string Dark Star P-bass. I'm hoping the folks at Lakland will put together a 5-string Skyline Glaub with a Dark Star option sometime in 2007. Maybe by then I'll have the funds lined up. Otherwise, I may see what Nino Valenti could put together. In the meantime, arbitrary and I are going to "cage match" wrestle for the next Read preamp that someone decides to part with. :ninja: arbitrary 10-23-2006, 05:40 PM In the meantime, arbitrary and I are going to "cage match" wrestle for the next Read preamp that someone decides to part with. :ninja: You have the height advantage, but in the meantime I'm going to practice loading and unloading my ca9 & nv610 until I can take you OLD man!!! Yesterday is still much of a blur, so much damned stimulus. Good thing I loaded up on B vitamins beforehand. I'm bummed I didn't spend more time with those Accugroove cabs though. BartmanPDX 10-23-2006, 06:18 PM You have the height advantage, but in the meantime I'm going to practice loading and unloading my ca9 & nv610 until I can take you OLD man!!! BWAAAHAHAHA! I wrestle with a 50lb. toddler every day! Bring it, sonny! arbitrary 10-23-2006, 06:27 PM BWAAAHAHAHA! I wrestle with a 50lb. toddler every day! Bring it, sonny! How much damage can she do on that malnurished diet you have her on? :eek: j/k I don't know wherelse to take this, I like you too much to insult you. Damn its hard being the better person. BartmanPDX 10-23-2006, 06:41 PM How much damage can she do on that malnurished diet you have her on? :eek: You would be surprised. She's strong and quick, and has no concept of "fair" or "rules." I don't know wherelse to take this, I like you too much to insult you. Damn its hard being the better person. Just bring that Alembic pre over here some day so I can try it out with my IP310. Then maybe I'll sell you the Read that I'm gonna score some day . . . :D fish slapper 10-23-2006, 07:12 PM 44107 I'll get the popcorn. :smug: Yeah, I'm feeling overload too. Maybe next time we narrow the shootout to something specific. Like Cabs, or pick-ups, or maybe even G strings. Passinwind 10-24-2006, 12:05 AM Yeah, I'm feeling overload too. Maybe next time we narrow the shootout to something specific. Like Cabs, or pick-ups, or maybe even G strings. Good call I think. I basically missed out on the Read (except maybe (?) with the acoustic bass), most of the other preamps, the Berg 610 (heard it, but didn't play through it), those Eden 110s, Mal's Avatar 212 neo, all the Fender-ish basses, lots of the other basses, and who knows what all else. And I still tried a bunch of gear! I'm pretty sure you're the only one who tried my EUB too. You sounded really good on it... fish slapper 10-24-2006, 12:16 AM I'm pretty sure you're the only one who tried my EUB too. You sounded really good on it... Well we could have a fret-less shootout but attendance might suffer. :hiding: Thanks for the compliment. All those nights of bowing on the upright (and sounding like a cow with a gut wound) are starting to pay off. Passinwind 10-24-2006, 12:21 AM Well we could have a fret-less shootout but attendance might suffer. :hiding: Thanks for the compliment. All those nights of bowing on the upright (and sounding like a cow with a gut wound) are starting to pay off. Maybe we'll do a DB one in PDX sometime, eh? We could run this by an the Dark Side of TB I guess. Arco playing is a great way to build better intonation. My EUB is a little funky with a bow, but I guess I should just forge on anyway. :cool: Audere 10-24-2006, 10:41 AM Hi Guys Sorry it took so long for me to get back to TB That IE7 update is a little more interesting than advertised... Nice to meet everyone... ...Thanks to Passinwind for hosting... +1 On the external preamp shootout: One thing I noted about the preamp testing is arbitrary mentioned how fast 1 of the preamps was - later I realized he was standing closer to the speaker when testing that setup. Given the speed of sound in air - it is actually noticeable and definitely the longest delay around. Next time I think it would be cool to do a more controlled test... ... I thought about bringing along my computer and doing a "design an amp voicing" project with you guys... PW have you considered using an FIR filter at top of the frequency range to keep phase controllable but an IIR filter on the bottom to keep the delay down - then mixing the 2 together. I think it might be very interesting to put a variable delay between the 2 sections and see if/how that changes the choice players make for the filters. This would separate time (phase) effects from frequency response effects. The real problem is how many players will or will not set it up ... ...Dave's J was cool, but pale in comparison to the L2K - anybody else try that one ? ... You were the only player of the L2k... With no tone controls it is not exactly what most players think they want... Passinwind 10-24-2006, 01:06 PM PW have you considered using an FIR filter at top of the frequency range to keep phase controllable but an IIR filter on the bottom to keep the delay down - then mixing the 2 together. I think it might be very interesting to put a variable delay between the 2 sections and see if/how that changes the choice players make for the filters. This would separate time (phase) effects from frequency response effects. The real problem is how many players will or will not set it up ... My initial concept for the DIY preamp/amp rig was that maybe I could market customized configurations to various players. It's tough enough for me to do the DSP programming, and I have a fair bit of experience, albeit mostly with SONAR applications. I'm not currently making or selling anything except for personal use, but you never know... SpeakerPower was nice enough to sell me an evaluation module after considering my tech experience and bona fide desire to become an OEM eventually. It's a very nice piece, and I really appreciate your input into a cool direction to explore. The config you heard was a simple split-band compressor with very little else programmed in. It's OK for a start, but there's a ton of work ahead of me. For my upright, I typically have been turning the DSP off so far. On Saturday I arrived at the gig only to find that I'd accidentally programmed the compressed "rock-oriented" setup into both presets. That made for some interesting lounge jazz, but I got by.:ninja: Thanks again for coming out and showing us your wares, and for helping make our first go-round a success. BTW, I placed an order on your website yesterday.:cool: -----------Charlie BartmanPDX 10-24-2006, 02:19 PM Charlie: I'm not sure how it would work, because I'm above my level of expertise here, but I have an interesting idea for the DSP that comes from my background in my other hobby, home theater. Currently, the DSP in my Berg IP is programmed to flatten out the frequency response of the cabinet. That's good (for me, anyway), but as you know, the speaker box is only one of two "boxes" that impact sound, the other being the room. Hence the IP may sound great in some rooms as designed, but horrible in other rooms -- you can't escape the need for EQ completely. In the field of home theater, the way that this second box (i.e. the room) is taken into account is by a system which utilizes a microphone, then sends out preprogrammed sample signals through the speakers, and having generated a kind of internal frequency-response curve for the speakers+room, applies the reverse EQ to the signal, effectively doing for the room and speaker combo what the IP series does for just the cabinet. Now there are several OBVIOUS, major problems with doing this: 1) It's enormously complex. I don't know of any off-the-shelf solutions; every unit I've seen is designed specifically for bass in home theater applications, and most, if not all of them are proprietary. I could look around, but usually it's integrated into the home theater processor. I doubt any engineer would want to sign up for the exercise in acoustic/engineering masochism that would be required to produce such a unit unless they had a LOT of time, resources, and funding at a pretty high level. 2) It's very dependent on where you position the mike. At the sweet spot, where the mike is positioned, frequency response might be made perfectly flat (assuming that's what you want), and the resulting EQ could make the rig sound godawful in other spots around the room (different mode locations). 3) You have to drag out the mike for each different room you set up in, and listen to some noise while it sets up. Also, it doesn't account for the crowd that arrives later, potentially changing the acoustics of the room. Anyway, sorry about the derailment. It's just an idea (probably a really bad one, at that) which has been floating around in my twisted noggin for some time. :p Passinwind 10-24-2006, 02:39 PM Anyway, sorry about the derailment. It's just an idea (probably a really bad one, at that) which has been floating around in my twisted noggin for some time. :p Bart, Interestingly enough, there was a box that does just that sitting idle at the GTG: the DBX Driverack in the FOH stack behind your rig! Anyhow, you're onto my personal agenda for DSP usage. "Flat" is a moving playing field, and maybe only an intellectually interesting one at that. At the club we still have and use a dedicated FOH EQ even though we shoot the room in a variety of spots and we could theoretically average the response curves if we chose to. In practice, we found a sweet spot for the mike that gives workable results, and we chase room changes during shows by adjusting the EQ at the board. I'm actually pretty Old School, having worked on thousands of tube amps. The old adage the if it sounds good, it is good is what keeps it interesting for me. I really enjoyed playing through your IP cab and trying to suss what Jim B has done with his programming approach. I'm not really interested in trying to go head to head with that, and there are doubtless plenty of other guys who will come up with other cool approaches to using DSP. For now, I just want to dial in my basses to the room and the stage you were in on Sunday. I play there a ton, and it's an extremely tough room acoustically. I basically just threw in a wild guess to the DSP, and I thought it actually worked fairly well that night with guitar and drums. I envision some of us carrying laptops into gig venues, pulling up presets for the room given the number of people in the room and so on, then eventually getting to self-contained, interactive, truly "intelligent" systems. I've heard that Jim B has thought about it and mentioned this to other folks on TB. If I can help push things along just a little bit, I'll be happy. This is all at a pretty advanced state in the sound reinforcement world, and I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more of it in bass rigs yet. In any case, I'm addicted to DIY rigs at this point, and I have a lot of scary stuff in the works currently.;) Audere 10-24-2006, 04:30 PM ...It's enormously complex. I don't know of any off-the-shelf solutions... Actually this is fairly simple - same algorithm (adaptive filters) was state of the art in phone system in 1980ish (you might not be old enough to remember how much better the phone system got about then). ...This is all at a pretty advanced state in the sound reinforcement world, and I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more of it in bass rigs yet... +1 BTW, I placed an order on your website yesterday... I did notice that... Thanks... You preamp has been: Built tested - next up potting... then it will be retested and shipped About 98% on making the mail tomorrow... Thanks David needmoney 10-24-2006, 07:13 PM So noone with pics? :confused: fish slapper 10-24-2006, 08:33 PM okay, Bartman, Charlie, and 4Mal; I was down to understanding every other word, and now I'm down to every 5th. :eek: :help::bawl: All I know is I heard some good sounding stuff. I'm probably jumping on the Audere bandwagon next week, (fire up the test bench, David), and still thinking I might need a head with a little more umph than the Clarus. BTW, I got an idea from the dark side today about an AI SA power amp and some sort of pre. :confused: Downside: not rackable so a bunch of little parts to keep track of and set up.:rollno: Back to the thread: Charlie, I did like the sound of your DIY head that we tried with my Schro. If you want a guinne pig (or potential customer on custom build), PM me.:hiding: But in the mean time, how about that Eb modulation on the turn around of "All Blues". ;) :bassist: :bassist: Passinwind 10-24-2006, 11:08 PM So noone with pics? :confused: Mine didn't come out at all, but at least two other guys shot some. Mal? BartmanPDX 10-24-2006, 11:50 PM Actually this is fairly simple - same algorithm (adaptive filters) was state of the art in phone system in 1980ish (you might not be old enough to remember how much better the phone system got about then). David, I'm not only old enough to remember having a telephone with a dial, I'm old enough to remember having a party line! :eek: (My mom was really cheap -- always saving money whenever possible for my fancy-shancy education -- we had the last party line in town in the 70s). I've heard the technology used in PA/house systems, but I've never seen it incorporated into a bass rig. It's probably not worth the trouble, but as the technology (as I understand it) works best for lower frequencies (which interact with the room dimensions in a more pronounced fashion??), one might think it would have worked its way into bass rigs before now. Of course, I'm way over my head here. Mostly, I hope to have another opportunity to play like a kid with amps and such with you folks again. It was truly a blast. And Charlie, your DIY head killed given its size and weight. I'd be willing to bet it has amazing bang-for-the buck, as well. I was blown away when you guys were switching out cabs with it -- one good tone after another. If I weren't infatuated right now with the sound of my IP310, I'd probably be trying to talk you into building me some similar kind of custom unit. 4Mal 10-25-2006, 06:17 PM Photo's 'fish slappin fishslapper and one bad mutha' funka ... 4Mal 10-25-2006, 06:19 PM Moer Photo's 4Mal 10-25-2006, 06:21 PM Playin' and gear whoring is way more fun than picture taking so 5's my limit. Next time around I'll do better, just remind me I said that... These are all way scaled down for hte upload. If anybody want's somthing hi-res PM me and I'll get it to ya. fish slapper 10-25-2006, 06:48 PM Photo's 'fish slappin fishslapper and one bad mutha' funka ... Hey, how come your camera made me look so fat. :ninja: :crying: ;) Hey, 5 is more photos than I took, and my day job is ... commercial photography. :rollno: Oh well, the cobler's children have no shoes.:eek: 4Mal 10-26-2006, 12:28 PM Hey, how come your camera made me look so fat. :ninja: :crying: ;) Hey, 5 is more photos than I took, and my day job is ... commercial photography. :rollno: Oh well, the cobler's children have no shoes.:eek: oh goody, now I know who to bug with photo questions. I'll bring the slimming lens for my D70 next time. umm, other than PW, and you know I've never actually seen that guy eat anything ... I've seen him fill a plate but ... hmmm, diclonius ? ... there wasn't anyone that showed that couldn't skip a lunch ... now and again. Yes, I'm built for comfort baby ... I ain't built for speed ... but I got everything, that a little woman like you needs! arbitrary 10-31-2006, 02:04 AM Hey to anyone who's interested in my gig spam; I'll be playing this Friday and Sat. night @ the usual 9pm-1am bar band times. This will be my first shows with this group and I think wed. will be my 4th practice with them. It'll be the usual cover/bar band songs, but should be a fun time. And who knows, if you show up you can come onstage and play mustang sally or something. Hwy 26 Sports Bar 31300 SE Compton Road, Boring, Oregon 97009 Passinwind 10-31-2006, 02:15 AM Hey to anyone who's interested in my gig spam; I'll be playing this Friday and Sat. night @ the usual 9pm-1am bar band times. This will be my first shows with this group and I think wed. will be my 4th practice with them. It'll be the usual cover/bar band songs, but should be a fun time. And who knows, if you show up you can come onstage and play mustang sally or something. Hwy 26 Sports Bar 31300 SE Compton Road, Boring, Oregon 97009 Cool, I was gonna ask when you were gigging with the new band. Hope you have a blast! I got a last minute call for a Sat. gig in Hood River meself, subbing with the jazz sextet w/horns I play with from time to time. Just when I thought things were finally slowing down too... 4Mal 10-31-2006, 05:24 PM Cool, I was gonna ask when you were gigging with the new band. Hope you have a blast! I got a last minute call for a Sat. gig in Hood River meself, subbing with the jazz sextet w/horns I play with from time to time. Just when I thought things were finally slowing down too... You and Pat doing the Trillium ? Passinwind 10-31-2006, 05:36 PM You and Pat doing the Trillium ? Jah mon! 7:30-10:30 this Saturday night. 2nd and Oak, Hood River OR. First round's on me.:bassist: fish slapper 10-31-2006, 11:21 PM I'm heading into the friendly skies tomorrow for a trip to NYC. If I have time, I might divert for some "unauthorized gear shopping".:ninja: But definately will try to catch you guys live in the future.:bassist: :bassist: :bassist: 4Mal 11-02-2006, 09:54 PM Jah mon! 7:30-10:30 this Saturday night. 2nd and Oak, Hood River OR. First round's on me.:bassist: I think my busy social schedule can accomodate a round or two ... Maybe I can pry Mr Ed and his lovely wife out for the evening ... I'll try for Suzy Mack as well... Passinwind 11-09-2006, 03:21 PM Mini-GTG this Sunday at 4Mal's place, right across the river from Hood River. Probably mid-afternoon -- details to follow. Open mike at the River City in Hood River afterwards. 4Mal 11-10-2006, 12:48 PM Starting off about 1:00 pm. I'm 10 minutes from the River City where we met last time. There's plenty of room. I'm a dog friendly zone with 2 Goldens though. Anybody with pet hair issues should think twice and or bring your asthma relief! I'm a bachelor this weekend so volume isn't an issue - not like it is normally as my wife is pretty tolerant. mapquest deets: 42 Weather Rock Road Underwood, WA 98651 509.493.3091 (home) Passinwind 11-10-2006, 12:56 PM Starting off about 1:00 pm. I'm 10 minutes from the River City where we met last time. Hey Mal, We don't pay no bridge toll... LOL :bassist: BartmanPDX 11-10-2006, 01:39 PM Lookin' forward to it! I'm planning on bringing the Brunetti, and the Reverend Thumpy. Should I bring my IP310, also? It's not that much trouble . . . Passinwind 11-10-2006, 02:04 PM Lookin' forward to it! I'm planning on bringing the Brunetti, and the Reverend Thumpy. Should I bring my IP310, also? It's not that much trouble . . . Bart, You have to bring the IP! It's the best evah with that funky tangerine colored preamp, right? :cool: It's an easy, level load-in up there, seriously. BartmanPDX 11-10-2006, 02:29 PM Bart, You have to bring the IP! It's the best evah with that funky tangerine colored preamp, right? :cool: It's an easy, level load-in up there, seriously. Will do! :D BTW, the preamp is actually red. I gotta get a new digital camera so I can get some good pics of it. It just oozes quality, but in a no-frills old-school kind of way. I also discovered that all seven tubes are lighting up, but I couldn't see an obvious loose wire that is causing the second channel not to work. Hopefully, I'll have my Sadowsky back from surgery by then, it is getting single coil pickups put into it. :) Passinwind 11-10-2006, 03:12 PM Will do! :D BTW, the preamp is actually red. Forget it then, I'm no longer interested! I can bring a digicam, although I think Mal has a much better one. BartmanPDX 11-10-2006, 06:13 PM Forget it then, I'm no longer interested! I can bring a digicam, although I think Mal has a much better one. :D I'm probably going to buy one today or tomorrow anyway. My wife has her eye on one that's on a special sale. More importantly, can you bring any tools (soldering iron, multimeter, etc.) that might be useful in trying to get the second channel up and running? I'm afraid it's beyond my feeble repair skills, which are largely confined to resoldering the occasional obvious loose wire. If I have to leave the Brunetti with you in order to get it fixed/fully functional, I can do that, too. I like this preamp, and am prepared to do/spend whatever it takes to get it working as well as possible. HotRatz 11-12-2006, 03:08 PM Hey NW gear-heads, just poppin in to say hello... My name's Calen Uhlig, and I'm a bassist in the Portland area. Moved up from Astoria about two years ago. I've been lurking around Talkbass for a few years now....I've found it to be an invaluable knowledge base for the working musician. And great folks, too! I'm a full-time engineering student by day, and music work by night pays the bills (usually :rolleyes:). I take whatever freelance work comes my way, but I play regularly with Caravan Gogh (Troutdale), Everyday People (Oregon City), Bond Street Blues Band (Astoria), and Amy Keys Jazz (Portland/Gresham). I play a little bari sax on the side, too. Anyway, just wanted to shout out to my fellow NW Corner bass players! Hopefully I can make a GTG someday! Cheers mates :cool: PS I hear we're in for quite a storm tonight....60mph winds inland? Batten down the hatches... Andrew Jones 08-22-2007, 12:43 AM Hi I know that this thread is old. I resurected it to introduce my self. My name is Andrew and I'm moving to portland on 9/1 What's up guys? Anyway,looking to meet/greet,Hang, Jam. Andrew Jones arbitrary 08-22-2007, 12:50 AM Hi I know that this thread is old. I resurected it to introduce my self. My name is Andrew and I'm moving to portland on 9/1 What's up guys? Anyway,looking to meet/greet,Hang, Jam. Andrew Jones Dude! Welcome to PDX, if you need anything let me know (or if you want to kick it). I actually just got back from Boston. The new wifey and I got married out there at the end of this past July. She's from there actually. Rodent 08-22-2007, 07:51 AM hey Andrew - greetings from a fellow misplaced Bostonian (Framingham, actually) welcome to the PacNW all the best, R Passinwind 08-24-2007, 12:13 PM Hi I know that this thread is old. I resurrected it to introduce my self. My name is Andrew and I'm moving to portland on 9/1 What's up guys? Anyway,looking to meet/greet,Hang, Jam. Hi Andrew, I'm thinking of doing another GTG out here this fall. Hope to see you when it happens. BTW, I lived in Boston for a few years myself, great city. Jerry J 08-24-2007, 12:58 PM Hmmm! I couldn't talk you out of moving out here:eek: ? j/k! Welcome my TB brother!:bassist: |