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JOME77 10-25-2006, 06:19 AM Well I finally succumbed to the GAS attacks (thanks Basso!) and ordered another Roscoe SKB 3005. The specs are as follows:
SKB 3005 body style
Swamp Ash body with enhanced grain
Mac Ebony Finger board
Aguilar OBP-3 pre with coil tap for pickups
Nordstrand pickups
Exhibition myrtle burl (flame)
Diamondwood nut
Black Hardware
It’s currently scheduled for completion sometime in November. I’ll post some pics when they’re available.
I'm really looking forward to hearing the Nords in a Roscoe!:bassist:
poptart 10-25-2006, 06:26 AM Joe - sounds like a cool bass, looking forward to seeing this one. With that set up it's gonna have a bit of bite in the sound I reckon.:cool:
You did well get a slot for November:hiding: :D
Basso Gruvitas 10-25-2006, 08:33 AM Hey man, don't blame me for your GAS! I think you got that all on your own! ;)
Looking forward to seeing this baby come into the world.
...and I think you'll probably like it a little.....;)
the_home 10-25-2006, 08:40 AM Joe - Just let me know when you tire of this one. I'm ready for another. :D
JOME77 10-25-2006, 10:50 AM Basso,
You know it's your fault!:p
Home,
If this one's anything like the last one, you'll have to look else where for your next one!;)
Ryan L. 10-25-2006, 08:00 PM Someone else just may be posting a thread similar to this one soon.:hiding:
JOME77 10-25-2006, 08:58 PM Someone else just may be posting a thread similar to this one soon.:hiding:
I've been expecting a post from you on the subject of a new Roscoe!
We can form a support group!:help:
JOME77 10-25-2006, 09:04 PM Joe - sounds like a cool bass, looking forward to seeing this one. With that set up it's gonna have a bit of bite in the sound I reckon.:cool:
That's what I'm hoping for!
My current Roscoe with the Demeter pre is everything I could possibly want in a traditional Roscoe sound. This one needs to be a bit more aggressive sounding and hopefully able to cop some J bass sounds (but Roscoe style; i.e. thicker sounding).
JOME77 10-26-2006, 05:53 AM Here's a pic of the Mac ebony for the finger board......
Bassmanbob 10-26-2006, 07:23 AM Someone else just may be posting a thread similar to this one soon.:hiding:
Wish I could say the same. But eventually.
Ryan L. 10-26-2006, 08:48 AM I've been expecting a post from you on the subject of a new Roscoe!
We can form a support group!:help:
:D
Ryan L. 11-04-2006, 05:09 PM I've been expecting a post from you on the subject of a new Roscoe!
We can form a support group!:help:
My thread will be posted very soon. I believe mine will be scheduled for a February delivery, which worked out PERFECT for me. I was allowed to go a little more overboard with my specs than I had originally planned to do, as it is after Christmas, and tax return time, and I have become really, really good at convincing the wife that I really do need things like a wenge wedge neck.:D
JOME77 11-04-2006, 08:24 PM My thread will be posted very soon. I believe mine will be scheduled for a February delivery, which worked out PERFECT for me. I was allowed to go a little more overboard with my specs than I had originally planned to do, as it is after Christmas, and tax return time, and I have become really, really good at convincing the wife that I really do need things like a wenge wedge neck.:D
Very nice! I considered the wenge wedge neck but had to stop some where.......
You'll have to post all of the spec's for the new Roscoe
Ryan L. 11-10-2006, 08:29 PM Very nice! I considered the wenge wedge neck but had to stop some where.......
You'll have to post all of the spec's for the new Roscoe
I will be posting, in the very near future, I think. Details are just getting finalized so the order can be placed.:)
JOME77 11-10-2006, 10:42 PM I will be posting, in the very near future, I think. Details are just getting finalized so the order can be placed.:)
Cool!
Lot's of choices that's for sure! Post those spec's when you tie them down.
Jeff Moote 11-11-2006, 04:18 PM I'm going to be joining this club in the next couple of weeks. As soon as I get my deposit in and finalize some specs, you can expect a thread from me as well :)
That's looking to be a sweet bass JOME! I can't wait to see progress pics. Specs are very similar to the plan that I originally had for my new bass, though a few things have since changed.
JOME77 11-12-2006, 03:35 PM I'm going to be joining this club in the next couple of weeks. As soon as I get my deposit in and finalize some specs, you can expect a thread from me as well :)
That's looking to be a sweet bass JOME! I can't wait to see progress pics. Specs are very similar to the plan that I originally had for my new bass, though a few things have since changed.
Thanks Jeff!
Those changes wouldn't include going with an Audere pre would it?:D
I figure one major departure from the norm are enough for me at one time. I'm blindly going with the Nord's bassed on other TB'ers comments. I loved the sound of the Aggie OBP-3 w/Bart p/u's in a couple of previous Roscoe's so I figured worse case I can always drops some Bart's in if I totaly don't dig the sound.
Ryan L. 11-12-2006, 05:38 PM Thanks Jeff!
Those changes wouldn't include going with an Audere pre would it?:D
I figure one major departure from the norm are enough for me at one time. I'm blindly going with the Nord's bassed on other TB'ers comments. I loved the sound of the Aggie OBP-3 w/Bart p/u's in a couple of previous Roscoe's so I figured worse case I can always drops some Bart's in if I totaly don't dig the sound.
That is exactly my line of thinking on going with the Nord/Aggie combo in my upcoming bass as well.
Jeff Moote 11-12-2006, 06:06 PM Thanks Jeff!
Those changes wouldn't include going with an Audere pre would it?:D
It's starting to look that way! I had the OBP-3 with Bart pups in my Roscoe (which I'm shipping out tomorrow to its new owner) and was considering dropping an Audere in that before I decided to sell it and just order a new bass :p The Bart/Ag combo sounded killer, but there were certain things I thought could be done better with another pre, and the Nordstrand pups are just something I want to try like many others here.
When I said similar, I mean right down to the wood choices, but like I said... still a couple decisions to be made. Thread to come next week probably :D
JOME77 11-13-2006, 05:21 PM It's starting to look that way! I had the OBP-3 with Bart pups in my Roscoe (which I'm shipping out tomorrow to its new owner) and was considering dropping an Audere in that before I decided to sell it and just order a new bass :p The Bart/Ag combo sounded killer, but there were certain things I thought could be done better with another pre, and the Nordstrand pups are just something I want to try like many others here.
When I said similar, I mean right down to the wood choices, but like I said... still a couple decisions to be made. Thread to come next week probably :D
Very cool!:) I'm looking forward to hearing some feedback on the Audere pre in a fretted Roscoe.
I look forward to checking out the final spec's that you go with too. So many TB'ers with new Roscoe's in the works!
Hopefully I'll have some top pic's sometime this week to share.
Basso Gruvitas 11-21-2006, 03:48 PM Well Joe, it won't be long now......:hyper:
C'mon November arrival bass!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
:D
JOME77 11-21-2006, 05:10 PM Well Joe, it won't be long now......:hyper:
C'mon November arrival bass!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
:D
LOL:D
Oh ye' of little faith!:p
Man Basso! You're making your rounds! You hit 4 Roscoe Threads in 15 minutes!!!:hyper:
Well Joe, you musta hit 'em too, cuz you counted 'em!
:)
...and I know John is bein' sarcastic, which is somewhat justified - especially since you and I already know it's going to be early December, not November, when the bass is done!
:hmm:
JOME77 11-21-2006, 06:08 PM Well Joe, you musta hit 'em too, cuz you counted 'em!
:)
Well you got me there! :o I admit I have a bit of an addiction to Roscoe threads!:help:
...and I know John is bein' sarcastic, which is somewhat justified - especially since you and I already know it's going to be early December, not November, when the bass is done!
:hmm:
.........in the words of George W. - "It's a tough job but we're making progress"
Basso Gruvitas 11-22-2006, 08:02 AM ...and I know John is bein' sarcastic, which is somewhat justified - especially since you and I already know it's going to be early December, not November, when the bass is done!
:hmm:
Gard, you know I'm only doing it in fun! Just giving you and Joe a little poke!:)
What Joe is going to get will be worth the wait.
Bassmanbob 11-22-2006, 04:40 PM Gard, you know I'm only doing it in fun! Just giving you and Joe a little poke!:)
What Joe is going to get will be worth the wait.
You know, John. None of us want to know about your sexual preferences. Get a room.:eek:
JOME77 11-28-2006, 04:28 PM Gard sent me a picture of the top today. It's been glued to the ash body and is scheduled to be cut, routed and shaped tomorrow. The necks being shaped too so things are moving along....two more weeks!;)
I'm looking forward to visiting Roscoeville!:cool:
Basso Gruvitas 11-28-2006, 04:31 PM Yeah!!
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!!!! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
Joe, you are in for some serious eye AND ear candy!!:D
....and it all happens...."in two weeks"!
Tony G 11-28-2006, 04:44 PM Oh wow! That top looks hot!
poptart 11-28-2006, 04:45 PM Oh my - that's impossible. Where do they get this stuff from:eek: :eek: :cool:
Jeff Moote 11-28-2006, 05:01 PM Gard sent me a picture of the top today.
All I can say is :eek: :eek: :eek: :D
JOME77 11-28-2006, 05:04 PM Thanks guys!
It's actually the mirrored image of the myrtle top that inspired this project. Keith remembered having some wood left over from that bass and fortunately there was enough for my top!
Very cool!:cool:
The excitement builds....................
bassthumpa 11-28-2006, 05:08 PM Man, that top is off the chain!
emjazz 11-28-2006, 05:22 PM Wow Joe, that's stunning! I've known for a long time that Myrtle will be the top for my next custom. I really love the stuff. That's a good one for sure.
Joel B 11-28-2006, 05:42 PM :eek: Whewwwww!!!! Schnikeeeess. :eek:
Man that makes me almost want to drop out of high school and live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVERRRRRRRRR. :D :D
Bassmanbob 11-29-2006, 04:29 PM Real nice. It's going to be a beauty!
Shawnost 11-29-2006, 10:57 PM Joe,
That top is sweet. That is a killer bass you've got there. And just think only two more weeks....:hiding:
Shawn
JOME77 11-30-2006, 06:24 AM Joe,
That top is sweet. That is a killer bass you've got there. And just think only two more weeks....:hiding:
Shawn
Thanks Shawn! I'm just glad to have progressed to the "two more weeks" mode!:)
poptart 11-30-2006, 06:32 AM Yeah - but each day is gonna seem reallllly long:eek: ...only kidding:D
Bassmanbob 11-30-2006, 04:06 PM Thanks Shawn! I'm just glad to have progressed to the "two more weeks" mode!:)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The last two weeks of a custom bass build is like saying there are only two more minutes left in the football game.:eyebrow:
But we all know that you will have won.
JOME77 11-30-2006, 04:06 PM Oh ye' of little faith!:p
Here's a pic of the bass shaped. It been through the rough shaping since the pic was taken. Gard also just let me know that the neck is now cut to shape too!
Starting to picture it with that Mac Ebony finger board............:hyper:
Diego 11-30-2006, 04:07 PM WOW! :eek: , NICE!
Strokey 11-30-2006, 04:46 PM That sure is a great top with very distinctive markings. I can't wait to see it when the fingerboard and neck have been attached.
Joel B 11-30-2006, 05:11 PM Joe, that is awesome! Congrats.
Jerry Ziarko 11-30-2006, 07:22 PM What an amazing piece of wood. A great find to be sure......
Bassmanbob 11-30-2006, 07:59 PM It's beautiful, but my wife thought it looked like a lady's most intimate of areas. :hiding: No wonder we all love it so much. :D
JOME77 11-30-2006, 08:05 PM It's beautiful, but my wife thought it looked like a lady's most intimate of areas. :hiding: No wonder we all love it so much. :D
LOL:D
Leave it to Bob!:help:
I think it's a bit like the shrink and their ink spot............what you see might be a reflection of the inside of your mind!:eek:
Some how I've got to purge that idea out of my head before I play it at church!:eek:
Halftooth 11-30-2006, 10:29 PM Wow! The figure popped more than I had imagined.
I'm glad it's on the infamous 2 more weeks mode. ;)
Basso Gruvitas 12-01-2006, 08:10 AM Joe,
Your top is looking awesome! Once it gets all sanded and glossed down....:eek:
...and with that mac ebony board....:eek: :eek: :eek:
After playing my black Roscoe this morning, I think you are going to love how it sounds.
...so are we now at "1.5 weeks?":D
bassthumpa 12-01-2006, 02:13 PM It's beautiful, but my wife thought it looked like a lady's most intimate of areas. :hiding: No wonder we all love it so much. :D
Would that make it a Roscoe "P-bass"? LOL!!!
DrMWP 12-01-2006, 02:43 PM Would that make it a Roscoe "P-bass"? LOL!!!
:rollno:
Joel B 12-01-2006, 03:30 PM :scowl:
:eek:
:rollno:
This is such a gorgeous bass. I keep looking at it whenever I pull up this site.
I can't wait to hear some sound clips of it. It is definantly a keeper. :bassist:
JOME77 12-01-2006, 03:42 PM Joe,
Your top is looking awesome! Once it gets all sanded and glossed down....:eek:
...and with that mac ebony board....:eek: :eek: :eek:
After playing my black Roscoe this morning, I think you are going to love how it sounds.
Thanks John! I'm sure looking forward to hearing this bass!
...so are we now at "1.5 weeks?":D
Well, maybe! Soon though........
...But I am packed and ready for a rode trip to Greensboro N.C.!:hyper:
bassthumpa 12-01-2006, 03:55 PM :rollno:
I'm sorry, I tried to resist, really I did!
DrMWP 12-02-2006, 08:42 AM :D :hiding:
Really dig your my space site too!!!!!!
Joel B 12-02-2006, 11:03 AM Bassthumpa, Andrew Gouche is one of the greatest gospel bass players around, I have played with some of the guys he uses, and it's always a little intimidating to know that you are standing where Andrew was just standing. :D
Andrew and Wayman Tisdale have a recording together on youtube, and they sound killer together. I have played with Wayman a couple of times, and he is just amazing.
I was wondering if you might be P.A.W. ?
I have played for some of their conferences out here in Cali, and had a great time.
bassthumpa 12-02-2006, 11:58 AM Thanks Doc!
Bassthumpa, Andrew Gouche is one of the greatest gospel bass players around, I have played with some of the guys he uses, and it's always a little intimidating to know that you are standing where Andrew was just standing. :D
Andrew and Wayman Tisdale have a recording together on youtube, and they sound killer together. I have played with Wayman a couple of times, and he is just amazing.
You got that right, those two are amazing, along with Terrance Palmer, David Dyson, and a slew of others. In a way, Myspace has been a blessing for me because it lets me see not only the well known cats, but some people I've never heard of befoe that have amazing talent. It really drives me to work hard toward a fraction of their talent.
I was wondering if you might be P.A.W. ?
I have played for some of their conferences out here in Cali, and had a great time.
Yep, my church is First Pentecostal Church of Austin. I'm usually at our state conference, but I haven't had a chance to attend any of the national conferences yet.
Bassmanbob 12-02-2006, 12:44 PM LOL:D
Leave it to Bob!:help:
I think it's a bit like the shrink and their ink spot............what you see might be a reflection of the inside of your mind!:eek:
Some how I've got to purge that idea out of my head before I play it at church!:eek:
Sorry Joe. I have to be serious at work all the time. I just let loose when I come here.
But seriously Joe. It is going to be a beautiful instrument.
bassthumpa 12-02-2006, 03:00 PM The cool thing about that top is that he could have cut it from the other side from the far end of the top sample, to have a sort of reversed pattern to it.
JOME77 12-05-2006, 04:51 PM Here's the latest and greatest from Gard!:bassist:
I'm pleased to say the least!;)
JOME77 12-05-2006, 04:52 PM ...and the neck!:)
emjazz 12-05-2006, 04:53 PM Wow Joe....just wow.
HELLonWheels187 12-05-2006, 05:05 PM Jeez, thats some bass you got going there.
Jeff Moote 12-05-2006, 05:37 PM Uh, :crying: :crying:
Just amazing. I love the way the figure on the top fits with the contours of the bass. The headstock lam is cool too...
Keep 'em coming :D
Joel B 12-05-2006, 07:05 PM Joe, that is Smoochielicious. You lucky dog. :p
bassthumpa 12-05-2006, 08:17 PM Man, that's crazy!
JOME77 12-05-2006, 08:55 PM Thanks guys! I think the fingerboard is going to blend very nicely with the body top! The enhancement really brought the ash body to life too.
It's looking like it's going to be ready for pickup next week. Definitely getting excited! Really looking forward to meeting Keith, Gard and the guys and touring the shop....and of course playing the completed bass!;)
Basso Gruvitas 12-06-2006, 08:10 AM It looks like the top was MADE for the Roscoe contours. Like a custom job!
That should be an exquisite bass.....er....crazy....er....smoochelicious!
;)
JOME77 12-06-2006, 08:12 PM It looks like the top was MADE for the Roscoe contours. Like a custom job!
That should be an exquisite bass.....er....crazy....er....smoochelicious!
;)
Joe, that is Smoochielicious. You lucky dog.:p
Joel/John,
Does "smoochelicious" mean that you guys want to kiss my bass?:eek::D
Bassmanbob 12-06-2006, 08:34 PM Joel/John,
Does "smoochelicious" mean that you guys want to kiss my bass?:eek::D
Well. Considering what it looks like... OK... I never grew up... I'll behave... I mean it this time... Really.
But really. It's going to be one of the classiest exotic topped basses I've ever seen. The top does look like it was made for the contour of the bass, just like John said. And that chocolicious fret board... Yum. Yum.
Oh baby...thats gonna be sweet.
JOME77 12-06-2006, 08:39 PM Well. Considering what it looks like... OK... I never grew up... I'll behave... I mean it this time... Really.
But really. It's going to be one of the classiest exotic topped basses I've ever seen. The top does look like it was made for the contour of the bass, just like John said. And that chocolicious fret board... Yum. Yum.
Thanks Bob!
I'll have to admit that I've had quite a few laughs over your comment!
You've probably been told this a few times before but in Georgia we'd say "you ain't right"!:p
JOME77 12-06-2006, 08:41 PM Oh baby...thats gonna be sweet.
Thanks Dave!
Did you try the 3-M tape between the bridge saddles?
I did, and I meant to tell you it worked great. Thanks for the tip!
Basso Gruvitas 12-07-2006, 08:08 AM ......that you're now down to......
"ONE WEEK???"
JOME77 12-07-2006, 08:18 AM ......that you're now down to......
"ONE WEEK???"
I've been told to plan the trip to Greensboro next Thursday!
I'm getting pumped!:hyper:
Jeff Moote 12-07-2006, 08:28 AM That's coming up soon! I'm excited and it's not even my bass :D
poptart 12-07-2006, 08:35 AM Me too! - it is going to look terrific when completed:bassist: :hyper:
I've been told to plan the trip to Greensboro next Thursday!
I'm getting pumped!:hyper:
Try to get here by lunchtime, I'll treat you to lunch at Natty's, and even buy the first round of beers!
:hyper:
By the way, the photos do this one no justice, the first time I saw it with finish on it, I nearly CRIED....
JOME77 12-07-2006, 03:44 PM Try to get here by lunchtime, I'll treat you to lunch at Natty's, and even buy the first round of beers!
:hyper:
By the way, the photos do this one no justice, the first time I saw it with finish on it, I nearly CRIED....
GAS is definitely accelerating..................:hyper:
Joel B 12-07-2006, 04:45 PM :D :D Joe, Smoochieliciious is the emotion that makes you willing to run up to a stranger ( prefferably a girl) and just plant one on her lips for the joy of doing it. :)
Like after you've just won the lottery, or found out you don't have to wear a colostomy bag after eating the mystery meat special at aunt Mildreds house on christmas. ;)
By the way, I was raised in South Carolina and Oklahoma. So you are correct my friend. I ain't right. Or spelled phonically, Ah aint Raht.
You just ship that new bass to me, and I will be happy to kiss it. :D
JOME77 12-07-2006, 05:03 PM :D :D Joe, Smoochieliciious is the emotion that makes you willing to run up to a stranger ( prefferably a girl) and just plant one on her lips for the joy of doing it. :)
Like after you've just won the lottery, or found out you don't have to wear a colostomy bag after eating the mystery meat special at aunt Mildreds house on christmas. ;)
By the way, I was raised in South Carolina and Oklahoma. So you are correct my friend. I ain't right. Or spelled phonically, Ah aint Raht.
You just ship that new bass to me, and I will be happy to kiss it. :D
LOL!!!:D
I don't have an Aunt Mildred but my wife has an Aunt Vonneda (they pronounce it "Varr-needa") and an emergency pit stop on the way home is almost always required!:eek:
I'll definitely have to add "Smoochieliciious" to my vocabulary!:cool:
JOME77 12-11-2006, 06:49 PM Getting oh so very close now.........:hyper: :help: :hyper:
Jeff Moote 12-11-2006, 09:28 PM Getting oh so very close now.........:hyper: :help: :hyper:
How close? Still thursday? :eek:
JOME77 12-12-2006, 06:13 AM How close? Still thursday? :eek:
Jeff,
Yeah, I'm going to confirm things with Gard this evening to make sure but as of yesterday afternoon he thought that they would have it ready COB Wednesday.
Getting a bit pumped!:bassist:
GrooveWarrior 12-12-2006, 07:12 AM I'm looking forward to seeing it all put together. You guys are making the GAS pains hurt real bad. I just ponied up for a Warrior a year ago. I shouldn't be thinking about another high end custom!!!
JOME77 12-12-2006, 08:41 PM I'm looking forward to seeing it all put together. You guys are making the GAS pains hurt real bad. I just ponied up for a Warrior a year ago. I shouldn't be thinking about another high end custom!!!
:D
I hear you! I took delivery of a new Roscoe last November and here I am again.....:help:
Sweet looking Warrior!:)
I toured their plant a several years ago. Very nice factory!
Jerry Ziarko 12-12-2006, 08:57 PM And Joe, while you're there, if you see a Demeter pre in the "closeout" bin, grab it for me, would ya? :D
Hah, I dont recall seeing a bin of preamps in the shop. :D
Maybe ones hiding in a cabinet, just waiting for you.
JOME77 12-12-2006, 09:08 PM And Joe, while you're there, if you see a Demeter pre in the "closeout" bin, grab it for me, would ya? :D
Hey, maybe the Demeter pre that Gard took out of his 3006 is just kind of laying around on a table some where!:hmm: :hiding:
GrooveWarrior 12-12-2006, 09:24 PM :D
I hear you! I took delivery of a new Roscoe last November and here I am again.....:help:
Sweet looking Warrior!:)
I toured their plant a several years ago. Very nice factory!
That would be a hoot. I know there are some mixed feelings about Warrior around here, but I gotta tell you, mine is as nice a bass as I have ever played.
I'm tellin' you, I can't wait to see this thing finished. And sound clips to follow, of course.
Jeff Moote 12-12-2006, 09:52 PM ...Gard took out of his 3006...
Uhh... wouldn't that be VI? :hiding:
JOME77 12-13-2006, 06:21 AM Uhh... wouldn't that be VI? :hiding:
Oh yeah!:o
I guess it would! :D
Jeff Moote 12-13-2006, 07:02 AM On a more serious note, I'm really interested to see how the Roscoe tuned Audere compares with the Demeter once more folks have them in their hands. I do think they'll make a good replacement for the Demeter in the options list, but I wonder how different the base sound will be...
Of course you went with the Aguilar, otherwise your bass would be a good indication of what mine will sound like :p :D
JOME77 12-13-2006, 07:36 PM Well it looks like the trip to Greensboro is canceled.:bawl:
The bass isn't going to be ready until Monday so I'm just going to have Gard ship it. It should be here by next Wednesday. Just in time for Christmas!:hyper:
I'm a little disappointed but a couple more days will just add to the excitement when it arrives next week.
Gard promised some pics when it's final assembled so I'll post them when they arrive.
Jeff Moote 12-13-2006, 09:45 PM Well it looks like the trip to Greensboro is canceled.:bawl:
You'll survive... maybe.
:p
Hey, I was bummed too, but sometimes things just don't quite go EXACTLY as you want....
:hmm:
poptart 12-14-2006, 09:30 AM Hey, but you will still have it for Xmas:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
Tony G 12-14-2006, 09:33 AM I know it probably sucks now, but when you finally do get it, the time waited will be well worth it!
JOME77 12-14-2006, 03:29 PM On a more serious note, I'm really interested to see how the Roscoe tuned Audere compares with the Demeter once more folks have them in their hands. I do think they'll make a good replacement for the Demeter in the options list, but I wonder how different the base sound will be...
Of course you went with the Aguilar, otherwise your bass would be a good indication of what mine will sound like :p :D
I'm very curious concerning the Audere pre. From what I'm hearing they don't have the HiFi glassy highs typical of the Demeter pre. That along with the smooth lows are what makes a Demeter pre so nice IMO. Gard and others really rave about the mid control. It certainly sounds like an excellent choice for a fretless.
Jury's still out for a fretted though....:hmm:
I suspect we'll be getting some feedback soon though. Just a matter of time.
JOME77 12-14-2006, 03:33 PM Hey, I was bummed too, but sometimes things just don't quite go EXACTLY as you want....
:hmm:
Hey, I'm cool Gard! You can't control everything that happens in a manufacturing facility.
I'll make the trip to the shop in spring and maybe even catch a ball game!
I'm reloading with excitment for the big day of arrival next week!:hyper:
Joe, yeah, we'll make the best of it! Maybe we can do a spring time Roscoe/NC GTG early in baseball season...
:)
Bassmanbob 12-14-2006, 04:49 PM Gard:
Joe was busy today so he asked me to confirm his address so you ship it to the correct location:
691 SW Port St. Lucie Blvd.
Port St. Lucie, FL 34953
He said to send it overnight and he'll pay for the extra charge.
You have my phone number if you have any questions.
JOME77 12-14-2006, 05:10 PM Joe, yeah, we'll make the best of it! Maybe we can do a spring time Roscoe/NC GTG early in baseball season...
:)
That would be a Roscoe/NC/GA GTG!;)
That sounds real cool!
TB'ers in Roscoe shop =/> Kid's in a candy store!
Gard:
Joe was busy today so he asked me to confirm his address so you ship it to the correct location:
691 SW Port St. Lucie Blvd.
Port St. Lucie, FL 34953
He said to send it overnight and he'll pay for the extra charge.
You have my phone number if you have any questions.
Yeah I do, and I'm givin' it to Joe...
...Joe, you already have the address, so you know where to go to deal with this, right?
:D
JOME77 12-14-2006, 05:15 PM Yeah I do, and I'm givin' it to Joe...
...Joe, you already have the address, so you know where to go to deal with this, right?
:D
The Fed's will be there any minute!;)
...along with 35 large pizza's, 6 dozen hot wings and 6 Family deal meals from Sonny's..........
....hope you brought your check book Bob!
Shawnost 12-14-2006, 10:59 PM Joe, yeah, we'll make the best of it! Maybe we can do a spring time Roscoe/NC GTG early in baseball season...
:)
mmmm.... Natty's Buckshot :cool:
Shawn
Bassmanbob 12-15-2006, 08:58 AM The Fed's will be there any minute!;)
...along with 35 large pizza's, 6 dozen hot wings and 6 Family deal meals from Sonny's..........
....hope you brought your check book Bob!
LOL Pretty good Joe. I didn't see that one coming! I guess that would qualify for the holiday office party. Ho, ho, ho!
mmmm.... Natty's Buckshot :cool:
Shawn
....sippin' it down while sittin' in a great seat watchin' some good baseball...right after spending a couple hours playing everyone else's bass and tourin' the Roscoe shop.
It don't get no better.
:cool:
Jeff Moote 12-15-2006, 09:22 PM As I've been reading the last page of this thread I was thinking how great it would be if I could join you all for this GTG in the spring - all this talk about tossing back some beers, watching the game, all after a Roscoe shop tour...
...then it occurred to me that I'm not even legal there! :p It's so strange after having already turned "of age" here.
That said, the likelihood of me making it to NC is slim anyway since I'll be in school :hmm: Be sure to have a round in my honour :D
JOME77 12-19-2006, 05:35 PM Well it's on it's way to Georgia!:hyper:
Here's a few low res pic's that Gard snapped prior to boxing it up.....
JOME77 12-19-2006, 05:36 PM and a couple more.......
poptart 12-19-2006, 06:00 PM Just amazing - love the headstock too:cool:
Jerry Ziarko 12-19-2006, 06:59 PM Joe that really is a great looking bass. Keep me in mind when you sell it. :hiding: :D
rayzak 12-19-2006, 07:01 PM Wow!!! Incredible looking Roscoe:bassist:
Congrats!!!
Jeff Moote 12-19-2006, 07:17 PM Awesome! You've really got me excited about seeing my fingerboard on a finished neck now; that mac looks AMAZING :D
JOME77 12-19-2006, 07:31 PM Thanks Guys!
Jerry,
I learned to never say never but hopefully this will be a keeper! I am looking forward to hearing the Aggie OBP-3 with the Nordstrand p/u's.
Jeff,
I agree with you on the Mac Ebony! Gard actually had to talk me out of the birdseye maple board. That's the 2nd time in a row that he's done that! I'll have to say though I don't regret the 1st and don't think that I'm going to regret the 2nd!;)
I'm looking forward to seeing the top you select!
JOME77 12-19-2006, 07:35 PM Just amazing - love the headstock too:cool:
Thanks poptart!
I really like the way that the flame comes through on the headstock. The headstock woods been hit and miss on the many Roscoe's that I've owned. IMO this one is definitely a hit!
Jerry Ziarko 12-19-2006, 09:14 PM Actully Joe, That was just jealousy (mine) rearing it's ugly head. I am simply amazed at some of the figured tops that come out of that place. Just when I think I've seen the best looking bass ever, another one in the works pops up. I do have a soft spot for natural though, and yours easily ranks with the best of them. $10 says you tear up :bawl: when you open the case. :hyper:
Basso Gruvitas 12-19-2006, 09:31 PM Joe....that bass looks simply beautiful!:eek:
Very classy. Gard, how would you compare the tone of Joe's to others coming outta there?
And Jerry.....:scowl:
You got NOTHIN' to be jealous over! Many a mortal would LOVE to have your Roscoe, man! Play it with pride...(after you put in the Aggie preamp!):D
:eek:
:hiding:
JOME77 12-20-2006, 05:47 AM Actully Joe, That was just jealousy (mine) rearing it's ugly head. I am simply amazed at some of the figured tops that come out of that place. Just when I think I've seen the best looking bass ever, another one in the works pops up. I do have a soft spot for natural though, and yours easily ranks with the best of them. $10 says you tear up :bawl: when you open the case. :hyper:
LOL! I'll try to be a man about it!:D
I hear what you're saying though. It's hard to believe that some of the tops actually came from trees!
JOME77 12-20-2006, 05:49 AM Joe....that bass looks simply beautiful!:eek:
Very classy. Gard, how would you compare the tone of Joe's to others coming outta there?
Thanks John! Your ash Roscoe is the inspiration for this one for sure!
I'm looking forward to Thursday. Can't wait to check out the sound of the Aggie/Nord combo!:hyper:
DrMWP 12-20-2006, 09:20 AM Very nice Joe!!!!!
I think Gard's photography skills are improving :hiding: :D
Doc, I'm workin' on 'em, I'm workin' on 'em!
Jerry, you got nothing to feel bad about, your bass blew me away so much it inspired MY bass! (see 5585)
John/Basso, man, it's just killin', I think it will be precisely what Joe was looking for, kinda snarly/honky, but still very much a Roscoe. It plays every bit as good as it sounds and looks!
rayzak....did you buy that Purpleheart LG 3000?!?!? Dude, GREAT bass....:)
Joe, trust me, you didn't want bird's eye maple with this one...this is definitely the correct choice, in every way. :cool: I'm very excited to hear your reaction to the bass when it gets there!
Basso Gruvitas 12-21-2006, 08:37 AM Hey Joe,
Today's the day! I'm sure you completely forgot, so I thought I would remind you....:smug:
We'll expect a full report when it arrives.
Thanks for the critique Gard. I figured it would have the same snarl as mine, but a bit more sutdued, due to the ebony.
I think you'll have another satisfied customer on your hands.;)
JOME77 12-21-2006, 08:45 AM Hey Joe,
Today's the day! I'm sure you completely forgot, so I thought I would remind you....:smug:
We'll expect a full report when it arrives.
:D
I took off from work today to make sure someone was here when it came. Could be a l-o-n-g day!
tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock...:help:
DrMWP 12-21-2006, 10:45 AM Is it there yet??????
:D
JOME77 12-21-2006, 01:02 PM Is it there yet??????
:D
:D
Not yet but we've got to be inching closer by the minute!
poptart 12-21-2006, 01:19 PM Man - the suspense is killing me too!!!!! And it's not even my bass:eyebrow:
maurilio 12-21-2006, 03:14 PM Is it there yet??????
:smug:
M
doctorjazz 12-21-2006, 03:32 PM It's 4:30. Do you know where your bass is?
Basso Gruvitas 12-21-2006, 04:24 PM I'm getting worried. It NEVER takes them this long.
I wonder if Brown got in an accident....stuck in the snow....pulled into a club with an open mic so he could try out this incredible Roscoe for himself........:hmm:
;)
maurilio 12-21-2006, 04:33 PM I'm getting worried. It NEVER takes them this long.
I wonder if Brown got in an accident....stuck in the snow....pulled into a club with an open mic so he could try out this incredible Roscoe for himself........:hmm:
;)
:eek:
man, you are a mean person!
:D
M
I'm getting worried. It NEVER takes them this long.
I wonder if Brown got in an accident....stuck in the snow....pulled into a club with an open mic so he could try out this incredible Roscoe for himself........:hmm:
;)
Well, according to the UPS website, it's been "Out For Delivery" for 13 hours now...
:hmm:
:eek:
...maybe John's onto something...
;)
(This time of the year, UPS drivers are still dropping stuff off at 10-11 pm, according to our local guy - who rocks.)
JOME77 12-21-2006, 05:17 PM I'm getting worried. It NEVER takes them this long.
I wonder if Brown got in an accident....stuck in the snow....pulled into a club with an open mic so he could try out this incredible Roscoe for himself........:hmm:
;)
I am sure glad that I didn't read this 15 minutes ago!:eek:
I'll have to remember this next TIME Basso is expecting delivery of a new one!:p
AFTER WAITING ALL STINKING DAY, IT FINALLY ARRIVED AT 6:00 PM!!!
Yahoo!:hyper::bassist: :hyper: :bassist: :hyper: :bassist:
All that I'm going to say for now is:
It's all that Folks! It's all that!!!
Review after some intimate time!;)
.....Door shuts, lights dim as amp powers up,..........back at you later guys!:)
Joe, you just let me know if I can help you exact retribution on Basso, you know I'm good for it.
:ninja:
;)
...and man, this is us here in the shop after talkin' to Joe on the phone:
:D :hyper:
JOME77 12-21-2006, 06:28 PM Joe, you just let me know if I can help you exact retribution on Basso, you know I'm good for it.
:ninja:
;)
...and man, this is us here in the shop after talkin' to Joe on the phone:
:D :hyper:
Gard,
I'll definitely take you up on the retribution on ole' Basso!:D
His time will eventually come!;)
As for the new Roscoe, It's everything that Gard said it was and more! The workmanship is as good as I've ever seen and the tone is simply killing!:bassist:
The sound of the Aggie/Nord combo is everything that I hoped it would be and the single coil switch get's as close to a jazz slap sound as I've heard on a Roscoe! I'm talking very close! It definitely appears to be the way to go with the Nords!
It's hard to separate the contribution of the ash body, Mac ebony FB, Aggie pre & Nord p/u's. It's by far the most unique sounding Roscoe that I've played yet it still retains the famous Roscoe sound.
Much more attack but still capable of that phat growling tone that makes you want to just close your eyes, jam and get lost in the zone!:bassist:
I'll post a few pic's to prove that I'm not just making this stuff up........more later!
JOME77 12-21-2006, 06:29 PM and more......
monier 12-21-2006, 06:41 PM Joe you have some seriously killer basses there!!! I haven't seen pics of that other one of yours before - I love the fretboard and body combo on that thing.
I think i'm getting a little teary :crying:
DrMWP 12-21-2006, 07:01 PM Review after some intimate time!;)
.....Door shuts, lights dim as amp powers up,..........back at you later guys!:)
Anybody else hear Barry White music?;)
rayzak 12-21-2006, 08:38 PM Wow, Joe!!!:hyper: Congratulations. That bass is stunning.:bassist: Both of your basses are stunning.
It's been a blessed day for the two of us. I got mine too!!!:hyper:
monier 12-21-2006, 09:56 PM Wow, Joe!!!:hyper: Congratulations. That bass is stunning.:bassist: Both of your basses are stunning.
It's been a blessed day for the two of us. I got mine too!!!:hyper:
Mine was maybe going to arrive today but judging by the UPS tracking report it looks like it's sitting in the depot across town awaiting customs clearance or something so will probably sit there over christmas now.
A bit of a bummer but probably a good thing - it'll save a few arguments over who / what I spend quality christmas time with... my gf or my Roscoe.... hmmmmm. :eyebrow:
JOME77 12-22-2006, 04:56 AM Wow, Joe!!!:hyper: Congratulations. That bass is stunning.:bassist: Both of your basses are stunning.
It's been a blessed day for the two of us. I got mine too!!!:hyper:
Thanks rayzak!
I'm sure that you're having a fun time exploring all of the sound options on yours too. How's the Demeter/Nord combination?
The Aggie/Nord combo on mine is excellent. I'll know more when I gig with it this weekend.
Make sure that you give us all a nice thorough review of yours!:)
Mine was maybe going to arrive today but judging by the UPS tracking report it looks like it's sitting in the depot across town awaiting customs clearance or something so will probably sit there over christmas now.
A bit of a bummer but probably a good thing - it'll save a few arguments over who / what I spend quality christmas time with... my gf or my Roscoe.... hmmmmm.
Bummer! I know I was freaking out when mine didn't arrive until 6:00 PM. Maybe they'll settle everything today and get it out to you this afternoon.
My daughter and son-in law arrived 1 hour after my Roscoe arrived so I feel your pain in the other area!:)
I kept sneaking upstairs to check it out for a few minutes all night! Every once and a while I'd hear my wife yell "Joe! Get back down here"!:D
Basso Gruvitas 12-22-2006, 08:08 AM Joe, you just let me know if I can help you exact retribution on Basso, you know I'm good for it.
:ninja:
;)
Hey! Where's the love, my fellow Roscoe bruthahs!!??:eek:
:) :) :)
Joe, I told ya!!!! That combination just takes it to a whole new level! Just wait until you start experimenting with the tones! It offers a TON of variety.
BTW, I categorize your collection as..."exquisite".
:D
Basso Gruvitas 12-22-2006, 08:08 AM Anybody else hear Barry White music?;)
LOL!!!
:p :p :p
Anybody else hear Barry White music?;)
(Barry voice: ON)
Sho' you rite, baby...
(Barry voice: OFF)
(....I actually do a passable impression of Barry saying that, the wife just loves it! :D )
Looks like a few of you guys got Christmas presents from Santa Keith this year, very nice.
monier, I hope it gets released soon! That is another killer bass!!!
JOME77 12-22-2006, 05:06 PM Looks like a few of you guys got Christmas presents from Santa Keith this year, very nice.
There were quite a few of us that received new Roscoe's within the last few weeks. I'd say that we are indeed blessed!:)
I've been able to spend the last couple of hours playing the new Roscoe while working out some Christmas Eve specials for this Sunday. I really don't know where to start first. In the area of tone, this bass is just flat out a tone machine! It's such a relief to hear with my own ears what Gard and Basso have been telling me for months concerning the ash/Nord/Aggie combo. The pallet of tones available are amazing!
I'm not exactly sure how the myrtle top and Mac Ebony FB figure into the equation but they certainly don't seem to have diminished any positive aspects of that combo. For those that selected Nords for up and coming Roscoe’s (Jeff!), the single coil switch for both pickups does indeed sound great. It really gives you a great variation to the traditional Roscoe slap tone. After playing with the controls/switches for the last couple of hours I can't imagine needing any other variables from a control standpoint.
I stated repeatedly when I received my spalted Roscoe last Nov. that it exceeded the overall quality and workmanship of any of my previous Roscoe's. Well this one is right on par with it! I'd say that Roscoe has clearly gotten their processes under control. Absolutely flawless!
Gard,
Tell Keith, Sanders, Tony.........(and everyone else) that the bass has now fully passed the fine detail inspection. It's one thing to be overcome with total lust when you first gaze upon the bass when initially opening the case. But it's whole different ballgame when you give two thumbs up after going over the bass with critical eyes and spend a few hours playing it. Awesome job!:)
Also a special thanks to Gene of Bay Area Basses (AKA halftooth) for everything that he did to make this happen too. I highly recommend Gene for any of you Roscoe Heads looking to order a new Roscoe! He totally Rocks!:bassist:
monier 12-22-2006, 06:37 PM (Barry voice: ON)
....
monier, I hope it gets released soon! That is another killer bass!!!
No luck on this one - latest UPS comment is "A QUARANTINE WAS REQUESTED BY A GOVERNMENT REGULATORY AGENCY". Australian govt does get very precious over quarantine sometimes!
Two thoughts:
1. They saw that lovely myrtle burl and got all suss on wood-borne diseases. Hard to imagine given the beautiful finish sitting over it!
2. Someone from customs is the gigging the thing over christmas :scowl:
most likely it'll just sit there until wed next week. Ahhh well - the wait is half the fun ;)
Jerry Ziarko 12-22-2006, 07:09 PM Two thoughts:
1. They saw that lovely myrtle burl and got all suss on wood-borne diseases. Hard to imagine given the beautiful finish sitting over it!
2. Someone from customs is the gigging the thing over christmas :scowl:
I vote #2 The thought of it is pretty damn funny though....
JOME77 12-24-2006, 03:43 PM Well I gigged out with the new Roscoe for the first time. I played through an Eden WT-400 and a SWR Goliath Jr. III cabinet. I was very impressed with the tones available but I’ve got to say it certainly is different than my Spanish Cedar\Bart\Demeter SKB 3005. This ash bass has much more attack than the Spanish Cedar. It sounded great on the rock finger style stuff. Every note was clear and punchy and sat in the mix nicely. I was impressed with the even sound of the notes up and down the fingerboard. The bass also sounded real nice when using a pick on one of the rocking numbers pounding out 1/8th notes. Really an “in your face” tone.
I didn’t bring my fretless and when I went to dial in a nice phat fretless like sound from the bridge p/u it just wasn’t there like it is on my Spanish Cedar Roscoe. It has a nice Jaco type tone but the notes weren’t as phat and furry (lacking growl). I’m not sure if this is due more to the ash body or the Nord p/u’s. The SWR/Eden combo probably wasn’t helping either but I’m able to still get this sound from my Spanish Cedar Roscoe with this rig. I have found though that when using the SWR cabinets it’s easier to get the sounds I like out of the TFunk amp than when using the Eden head (via that magical “Timbre” control!).
We did a funk style tune during sound check and the slap sound in single coil mode was awesome. It got big grins from our drummer and percussionist. As Gard and others have stated, the single coil mode does have less output but IMO not any less than you would find when using a Fender style bass. I cranked it up and it sounded great without any noticeable hum. Very nice!
Overall I’m extremely pleased. The bass really is pretty much exactly what Basso and Gard described. It has a very aggressive sound, lots of attack and the best traditional slap sound that I’ve heard from a Roscoe. It’s still a bit early to form absolute opinions (I still want to play it out with my main TFunk TFB-550b/Berg HT112’s rig) but I think that for the rocking gigs, the ash/Nord/Aggie Roscoe will be the bass of choice.:bassist:
For the gigs that require a bit more of a polite sound and for gigs that I don’t want to bring the fretless, the Spanish Cedar will get the call.
All in all a great one-two punch!:)
cuebill 12-24-2006, 04:33 PM Great live review Joe. Good to hear positive stuff about the single coil mode. Anxious to experience that firsthand as well. Sounds like you have quite a tone arsenal now! :bassist:
Bassmanbob 12-24-2006, 11:00 PM Joe. The bass came out absolutely perfect. It has always looked beautiful, but with it all together, it's just incredible. It's one of the nicest looking basses I've ever seen.
Enjoy it.
Jeff Moote 12-26-2006, 12:11 AM For those that selected Nords for up and coming Roscoe’s (Jeff!), the single coil switch for both pickups does indeed sound great.
Good to hear! I hate to beat this to death, but you didn't specify and therefore got the Nordstrands wound with series in mind, correct? As discussed in another thread, that's what I'll likely end up with, so it's good to hear your thoughts on how the switch works with them.
Based on your post gig review, it sounds like you've got the bases (basses?) covered with the two SKBs :bassist:
Your thoughts on the nature of the ash/nord/ag combo as compared to spanish cedar make me feel really comfortable with my choice of cedar/nord/audere :D I'm finding a lot of the same things with my ash LG - great for pumping out the more rocking tunes, and a nice snappy slap tone.
Let us know when you've played it out with your rig :) House rigs aren't all bad, but nothing compares to your own rig, and especially in this case I think the TFunk/Berg combo is a lot better!
JOME77 12-26-2006, 07:31 AM Good to hear! I hate to beat this to death, but you didn't specify and therefore got the Nordstrands wound with series in mind, correct? As discussed in another thread, that's what I'll likely end up with, so it's good to hear your thoughts on how the switch works with them.
The Nords are wired in the standard mode that Roscoe purchases them in, which is series. I believe that you'll like them just fine!;)
Your thoughts on the nature of the ash/nord/ag combo as compared to spanish cedar make me feel really comfortable with my choice of cedar/nord/audere :D I'm finding a lot of the same things with my ash LG - great for pumping out the more rocking tunes, and a nice snappy slap tone.
If I had one Roscoe, it would have a Spanish Cedar body. IMO it's just a "do it all" bass. You may want to ask Gard to pick out a piece of wood on the heavier side though. The figured piece used on my 3005 is significantly heavier than others that I've owned and results in a much phatter sounding bass.
I'm sure that the Audere pre will be nice but I've got to say that I can sure vouch for the great sound of the Aggie with the Nord p/u's. Excellent tone control.
Basso Gruvitas 12-26-2006, 09:04 AM Joe,
Glad the new axe is working out so well. It really brings out more versatility from the instrument.
For a "fretless-type" tone, pan about 10-15% to the neck pickup, boost the bass about 5-10% and the LOW mids about 10%. Of course you'll have to tweak for the room, but I found that setting makes a nice warm fretless tone. Now, if it's too "dark" sounding, pull in the mids and boost the upper mid control the same 5-10%. Hope this helps.
I find that, in general, for all settings, I have to boost the bass about 5%. For slap, I boost the bass a good 40% in single coil mode - but you're right - the slap tone just cuts right through! Everyone hears your pocket!!:bassist:
Jeff Moote 12-26-2006, 01:20 PM You may want to ask Gard to pick out a piece of wood on the heavier side though. The figured piece used on my 3005 is significantly heavier than others that I've owned and results in a much phatter sounding bass.
Well... if I could just have that same piece of wood then I'd be set ;) I'm sure Gard and the boys will make something good happen.
It's good to hear you're enjoying the new bass Joe. You've got a great pair of SKBs to choose from :cool:
JOME77 01-17-2007, 08:25 PM Sorry guys but I've got to bring this to the top one more time to provide some additional comments. I've had the new ash Roscoe 4 weeks today and it's offically become a part of the family.
It has a unique voice to it and it took a bit of experimenting with different strings and EQ settings before I found all the magical settings that I like but after playing the last two gigs with it I'm all smiles!:)
I can't believe how nice the DR Black Beauties sound on this bass! Their mid-range voicing was a bit over kill on my Spanish cedar Roscoe but on this ash Roscoe it's pure magic!
They even brought the fretless sound I was looking for out of the bass. Such awesome definition and clarity to the notes up and down the finger board.
It's really strange because Basso stated that the DR BB's sounded much to aggressive and "in your face" on his solid ash Roscoe w/maple finger board but on this bass they actually seem to provide the low mids that I was missing. Maybe it's the Mac Ebony fingerboard and/or Myrtle top. Regardless it's sweet!
You guys that have the ash/Nord Roscoe's on order are going to be very happy!:smug:
I'd really like to hear the combo with the new Audere pre but I'm certainly happy for now with the sound of the Aguilar OBP-3.
I guess I need something to look forward to down the road!;)
emjazz 01-17-2007, 10:24 PM ......but on this bass they actually seem to provide the low mids that I was missing. Maybe it's the Mac Ebony fingerboard and/or Myrtle top.
I had an ash body/maccasser ebony fingerboard F Bass that was really lacking in the mids. I know every bass differs but I'll never have a bass with that combo again...........of coarse I hadn't tried other strings which could've helped. For me, it was just too apparant when I heard the same thing with the bass unplugged.....
Yada, yada....I was just making the comment because I saw your commment about missing the low mids with that combo. I had the same experience. Glad your diggin it with the different strings.
Basso Gruvitas 01-18-2007, 07:36 AM Cool Joe! It's a great sound that the Nordy/Ash/Aggie all bring. As you and I have commented over the phone - the spanish cedar/Bart/Demeter combo cuts through the MIDDLE of the mix, but the Nordy/ash/Aggie combo seems to cut through the TOP of the mix.
Lately I have been dialing in more lower mids into the mix and it seems to fill out nicely. Speaking of strings, I'm going to try some Skjold strings on the black Roscoe to see what it does. I've played those strings on Skjold basses and they are KILLER!
:D
JOME77 01-18-2007, 05:45 PM I had an ash body/maccasser ebony fingerboard F Bass that was really lacking in the mids. I know every bass differs but I'll never have a bass with that combo again...........of coarse I hadn't tried other strings which could've helped. For me, it was just too apparant when I heard the same thing with the bass unplugged.....
Yada, yada....I was just making the comment because I saw your commment about missing the low mids with that combo. I had the same experience. Glad your diggin it with the different strings.
I owned an ash F Bass with a maple finger board and it also lacked mids. That may just be a characteristic of the F Basses.
I guess the Mac Ebony fingerboard could be contributing to the lack of lower mids. It certainly seems to tame the upper mids quite a bit. That actually was the intent of choosing Mac Ebony as the fingerboard type (that and appearance :)). It really seems to compress the tone nicely.
I really suspect though that the missing low mids may be more a product of the Myrtle top. I owned a one piece myrtle burl Roscoe LG 3005 that really lacked low mids. I really had to boost the mids quite a bit on that bass. Thankfully it had the Bart 3-band pre which really has some mid boost capability. Maybe that's more proof that the thicker (1/2") Roscoe tops do indeed affect the tone.:hmm:
JOME77 01-18-2007, 05:56 PM Cool Joe! It's a great sound that the Nordy/Ash/Aggie all bring. As you and I have commented over the phone - the spanish cedar/Bart/Demeter combo cuts through the MIDDLE of the mix, but the Nordy/ash/Aggie combo seems to cut through the TOP of the mix.
That's exactly how I hear it. The notes of the Spanish cedar bass are phat and full while the notes of the ash bass are so clear and defined.
It's kind of like a hoover craft verses a tug boat or maybe a ski boat verses a submarine!:D
Lately I have been dialing in more lower mids into the mix and it seems to fill out nicely. Speaking of strings, I'm going to try some Skjold strings on the black Roscoe to see what it does. I've played those strings on Skjold basses and they are KILLER!
:D
Let me know how they sound! After my experience's with the DR BB's I have a renewed interest in checking out different strings.
Tony G 01-18-2007, 06:01 PM Let me know how they sound! After my experience's with the DR BB's I have a renewed interest in checking out different strings.
I just wish I tried black beauties on my Roscoe before I traded it away. I put them on my Skjold last weekend and I am really impressed! However, I've been hearing from a few members here that they actually don't last as long as DR's uncoated strings. Sounds weird to me, but that is what they said....
JOME77 01-18-2007, 06:44 PM I just wish I tried black beauties on my Roscoe before I traded it away. I put them on my Skjold last weekend and I am really impressed! However, I've been hearing from a few members here that they actually don't last as long as DR's uncoated strings. Sounds weird to me, but that is what they said....
I think that you'll be pleasantly surprised at how long they last. The first set that I purchased were on my Spanish cedar Roscoe for 2 months and played approx. 3 gigs a week (2 hour gigs). When I took them off they still sounded fresh. I was very impressed. I sent them to halftooth and as I recall he thought they sounded great even after having been played for 2 months.
I'm sure the acid level of the player and the type gigs played would have to factor in though.
Tony G 01-18-2007, 06:46 PM That is good to hear Joe. I would only have to assume that a coated string would last a little bit longer than an uncoated string.....
Halftooth 01-20-2007, 04:07 PM I think that you'll be pleasantly surprised at how long they last. The first set that I purchased were on my Spanish cedar Roscoe for 2 months and played approx. 3 gigs a week (2 hour gigs). When I took them off they still sounded fresh. I was very impressed. I sent them to halftooth and as I recall he thought they sounded great even after having been played for 2 months.
I'm sure the acid level of the player and the type gigs played would have to factor in though.
They still sound great...it's unbelievable!
Jeff Moote 02-22-2007, 01:22 AM Well, it's time to dig this thread up again! :D
I really suspect though that the missing low mids may be more a product of the Myrtle top. I owned a one piece myrtle burl Roscoe LG 3005 that really lacked low mids. I really had to boost the mids quite a bit on that bass. Thankfully it had the Bart 3-band pre which really has some mid boost capability. Maybe that's more proof that the thicker (1/2") Roscoe tops do indeed affect the tone.:hmm:
This comment was in response to one about F-Basses and Mac. Ebony, but it relates directly to something I've been thinking about lately. As I await #5622 I'm second-guessing a couple of my decisions (ssh! don't tell Gard!). I'm notorious for changing orders along the way (though usually nothing major like wood selection, and luckily still early and before building starts).
I'm wondering about the tonal effect of the Myrtle, and if the lack of low mids you describe would be less present with a Spanish Cedar body than with the Ash (which I find in general not so much to be lacking in mids, but with the mids emphasized higher than other tonewoods).
JOME77 02-22-2007, 05:37 PM Well, it's time to dig this thread up again! :D
This comment was in response to one about F-Basses and Mac. Ebony, but it relates directly to something I've been thinking about lately. As I await #5622 I'm second-guessing a couple of my decisions (ssh! don't tell Gard!). I'm notorious for changing orders along the way (though usually nothing major like wood selection, and luckily still early and before building starts).
I'm wondering about the tonal effect of the Myrtle, and if the lack of low mids you describe would be less present with a Spanish Cedar body than with the Ash (which I find in general not so much to be lacking in mids, but with the mids emphasized higher than other tonewoods).
Jeff,
IMO I think that your choice of Spanish cedar/myrtle will sound excellent. The Spanish cedar has a good bit more low mids than the ash but the ash has a good bit more upper mids than the Spanish cedar. I guess it depends on which you prefer.
I really love the phat warm sound of the Spanish cedar but after playing out with the ash/myrtle Roscoe a few times I really liked how it sat on top of the mix. Very clear tone. It's nice to be able to choose.
I will say though that it seems to be a little easier to warm up the tone of the ash/myrtle bass than it is to tighten/clear up the tone of the Spanish cedar/spalted maple bass.
Over the last couple weeks Gard had a chance to A/B my bass (ash/myrtle/Nord pu's/Aggie OBP-3) with Basso's bass (solid ash/Nord pu's/Aggie OBP-3) and while they sounded similar, he thought that mine had a slightly warmer tone. Maybe due to the myrtle top verses Basso's solid ash or maybe due to my Mac Ebony FB verses Basso's birdseye FB.:hmm: .....hard to say which.
Jeff Moote 02-22-2007, 06:02 PM Over the last couple weeks Gard had a chance to A/B my bass (ash/myrtle/Nord pu's/Aggie OBP-3) with Basso's bass (solid ash/Nord pu's/Aggie OBP-3) and while they sounded similar, he thought that mine had a slightly warmer tone. Maybe due to the myrtle top verses Basso's solid ash or maybe due to my Mac Ebony FB verses Basso's birdseye FB.:hmm: .....hard to say which.
My guess is the mac ebony board, but the answer is probably a bit of both. I find maple boards to be a bit brighter as a rule, but ebony is not so much "warm" as compressed. It doesn't matter much anyway if we're all happy.
So, thanks for answering my questions and reassuring me on my wood choices. The spanish cedar tone really is my thing - to go back to something you and Basso said about the Roscoes before, the cedar cuts through the middle of the mix, while the ash cuts straight to the top. That sounds about right to me, and I think a low-mid emphasis is just what I look for when I try to find my place in the mix.
maurilio 02-23-2007, 02:11 AM Damn..... you know what?..... I've always wonder about Ash vs. Cedar and now I wish I had ordered a S.C. body for my Century..... I find myself boosting the low-mid/mid (250/500.... yes, I've change the upper mid frq from 800 to 500) every time!
...still, I like what I can get out of my Century!
M
Basso Gruvitas 02-23-2007, 03:06 PM So Joe.........
nice to have your baby back home?:D
;)
I hope to experience the same joy.....................someday.:bawl:
JOME77 02-23-2007, 03:38 PM So Joe.........
nice to have your baby back home?:D
;)
I hope to experience the same joy.....................someday.:bawl:
Oh yeah!:)
It sounds even sweeter than I remembered!:bassist:
Just for those that are wondering why it was gone......it had a minor issue with some raised grain on the neck purpleheart stringer and I sent it home for some quick sanding and neck refinishing work.
Keith and Gard fixed it right up though!
Did I mention that Roscoe has awesome customer service?
Oh yeah, many times!;)
Don't worry Basso, your homecoming is just around the corner!:)
Did I mention that Roscoe has awesome customer service?
Don't be fooled Joe...Gard did that on purpose just so he could get it back from you to play for a couple of hours! :p
JOME77 02-23-2007, 07:49 PM Don't be fooled Joe...Gard did that on purpose just so he could get it back from you to play for a couple of hours! :p
LOL!:D
Do you actually think that Gard would stoop that low?
.......well......better not answer that one Jay!:scowl: :)
Don't be fooled Joe...Gard did that on purpose just so he could get it back from you to play for a couple of hours! :p
:confused:
....who, me??? I'd never do such a thing....
:hiding:
;)
Joe, glad we were able to get it back to you for the weekend, hope all went well on the gigs.
John, you're next....;)
JOME77 02-25-2007, 10:39 AM Joe, glad we were able to get it back to you for the weekend, hope all went well on the gigs.
Gard,
The gigs went great! It's unanimous too (band and sound crew). The ash Roscoe had more clarity and still retained a nice thick tone as compared to my Spanish cedar 3005. It didn't matter whether it was lower or upper register stuff, every note was clean and even.
In some of the smaller rooms I really like the Spanish cedar Roscoe but in a hall the size of this one (40ft. ceilings) the ash Roscoe just does a better job.
Thanks for getting the bass out and to me prior to the weekend! The neck looks and feels awesome too!:hyper:
You guys totally rock!:bassist:
Good deal Joe, I really dig the look and sound, and the feel of that bass. Glad it works live as well.
For the record - thanking me for the work done is appreciated but not accurate, all I do is essentially clerical, just organize and schedule. Give all the credit to Keith on that one. :)
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