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maybass77
11-29-2006, 08:15 PM
6 string, pale moon ebony top (thanks again todd), flame maple/ebony neck, ebony fretboard, chinese "6" inlay. should be fun!

spudmaster34
11-29-2006, 08:37 PM
wow, sounds heavy and expensive, yet amazingly cool

stpvoodoo1
11-29-2006, 10:06 PM
I'll bet whoever is buying that is one bad ass player (and super cool guy)....

eleonn
11-30-2006, 07:56 AM
This is gonna be a great looking bass!!!

I want two of them, some french fries and a coke please. For delivery!!! :smug:

mkrtu9
12-01-2006, 12:14 AM
And I want you to feed me. Key is under the mat.

nice bass

andvari7
12-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Where, oh where can one find this elusive pale moon ebony?

Thonk
12-08-2006, 08:02 PM
Where, oh where can one find this elusive pale moon ebony?

Well exoticwoodbrokers (http://www.exoticwoodbrokers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=520) has some but it ani't cheap!

pilotjones
12-08-2006, 08:40 PM
Most other vendors call it mun ebony, which is probably a more proper name. You can search on that, too.

Angus
12-08-2006, 11:46 PM
Just FYI, that "Chinese 6" is written incorrectly (or sloppily, at best)- 2 of the 4 strokes are incorrect, and 1 of the remaining is marginal.

It'll look really, really bad to have that inlayed like that.

FBB Custom
12-09-2006, 10:19 AM
I have heard it called "black and white" ebony as well. It's relatively new to the US retail market, hard to get wide and clear. The wide stuff I have seen has been around $100/bf.

stpvoodoo1
12-09-2006, 11:19 AM
the balck and white ebony is actually from Africa. This stuff is from Asia and is much rarer (and very hard to get a big piece, esp with a book match)....Only prob is it cost me mega bucks, but what the hell...

tribal3140
12-09-2006, 01:15 PM
the " pale moon ebony" can be called black and white ebony but the moniker "pale moon ebony" is more common.
it is a variety close to the mun ebony family but not mun ebony.
doisyrus .spp or diosyprus mun are different genuses.

when one refers to black and white ebony they can be referring to either but more commonly refering to african black and white
which is gaboon ebony and its juxaposed cream sapwood, which also can have a marbleing effect on the heart too, hence the black and white ebony.

when I say pale moon ebony I mean
diospyrus embryopteris
which is from LAOS and thailand
(asia minor).
a very different breed than the african black and white which is the common referral.

the "pale moon ebony" is very rare for several reasons.
one, it dries very very poorly! so the largest average pieces you see in the worlds market are pen and small spindle blanks.
finding it in large instrument sizes is about the rarest occurance in the timber trades!
its about 100x easier to find pink ivory and skakewood in larger sizes!

I cant go into prices here but matts right, because of those factors it is among the most expensive timbers in the world!

hey I do know something after all!:eek:
T

andvari7
12-09-2006, 01:31 PM
While I am absolutely grateful for that straight-forward answer, I am (understandably) disappointed. And here I was hoping a fingerboard would come under $150. Oh, well.

Having settled that, are there are other similar-looking, hard (for FBs) woods that are significantly cheaper and easier to come by?

FBB Custom
12-11-2006, 12:15 PM
My experience has been that fingerboards are easier to find than wide tops for the pale moon/pale mun. I was able to get a fingerboard blank for well < $150 at a lumberyard. Even at $100/bf, a fingerboard sized blank should come in at 1bf or less. What the eventual price you get from a luthier/lumber seller may come in higher depending on how much searching/processing/minimum order they have to do to find a piece that meets your requirements.... Alembic gets $300 for a macassar ebony...

Maybe marblewood will suit you just as well, though. It's very tough and much less expensive.

tribal3140
12-11-2006, 04:37 PM
alembic charges $1500 for a buckeye top and another $700 for a full top!
now thats insanity.
that macc fingerboard sounds good comparitvely!

andvari7
12-11-2006, 05:22 PM
But that's just Alembic. They overcharge for everything, even Alembic t-shirts.

Kran Banger
12-11-2006, 06:33 PM
if you dont mind me asking how much did you spend on this bass?, its kickin by the way

stpvoodoo1
12-11-2006, 07:09 PM
New pic


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/tophorncut.jpg



Here's what the finished product will look like. (minus chinese inly and maple border around black swirl)


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/pme-21000.jpg

tribal3140
12-11-2006, 07:23 PM
damn! shawns cooking on this already!
lookin Good!

stpvoodoo1
12-11-2006, 07:29 PM
Hey Todd, he just sent me this


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/horncarvesetail.jpg

wallstreet
12-12-2006, 08:01 AM
New pic


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/tophorncut.jpg






That's hotter than a virgin moose knuckle. :D

tribal3140
12-12-2006, 10:49 AM
:ROFL
!

stpvoodoo1
12-14-2006, 03:47 AM
ok this is pretty much the FINAL design...

You can't see the body core from this rendering (it's purple heart) and there are a few small details missing, but if all goes well I'll have this bad boy in Jan or Feb!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/pme-31000.jpg

stpvoodoo1
12-18-2006, 07:50 PM
Got these shots today!

Thats with just two days in the shop (albeit long ones)


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/3.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/4.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/2.jpg

ehque
12-18-2006, 09:07 PM
that's one of the sickest basses ive ever seen.

kudos. who's building it?

tribal3140
12-18-2006, 09:40 PM
shawn may of may custom basses,
Novi MIchigan

stpvoodoo1
12-18-2006, 10:34 PM
Yeah, Shawn is the MF'in man!

www.maycustombasses.com

eleonn
12-19-2006, 08:18 AM
This is going to be great!!! Can't wait for more pics.

stpvoodoo1
12-23-2006, 02:28 PM
Should be getting more pics on Wednesday!

spudmaster34
12-23-2006, 02:45 PM
sweet

maybass77
12-24-2006, 01:44 PM
i'm back in Plymouth now, but still in MI. where people need to learn how to drive

TreeChild
12-25-2006, 10:10 PM
gosh that is amazing!

Greg Johnsen
12-27-2006, 10:53 PM
that is an incredible bass...

I'm sure just half the top is gonna cost more than all of the wood on my bass!

You are a very lucky man to be treating yourself like this, hopefully one day I can get a pale moon 6er...

Greg

stpvoodoo1
12-30-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's a pic of the new fingerboard next to the wings.

Shawn is gonna do an inlay similar to what's pictured in the rendering below, but the black swirl will be thicker so that it "flows" into the headstock


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/wingsandneck.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/pme-31000.jpg

Greg Johnsen
12-30-2006, 01:40 PM
incredible...

Greg

stpvoodoo1
12-30-2006, 01:51 PM
Thanks man!

I can't tell you how much fun I'm having with this. It's my first custom, and I'm incredibly lucky to have a buddy like Shawn to build it.

Scott over at Beav's graphics and Todd from Exotic Wood Brokers have been cool as hell too.

The whole process has been great. Even though I'm dying to get the bass, I'm afraid I might go through some "design withdrawal" once I don't have it to obsess about anymore!

Good thing I can't afford another one!

Greg Johnsen
12-30-2006, 01:57 PM
yah, I've been talkin to Todd about woods, and he is a great guy, very helpful with any questions I have for him.


Haha, enough money for another one...I'd never enough money to pay for one of the body sides! You're a very lucky guy, cause the guy makin this sure has some skill.

Greg

stpvoodoo1
12-30-2006, 02:30 PM
Shawn has been building basses for about 6 years I guess.

He's still just a PT builder, but IMHO he could play with the big boys any day. Hopefully he'll hit it big one day (and I'll have one of the first models!)

btw...the model name, "Lunar Eclipse"

:bassist:

Oh yeah here's more what the final inlay will look like (I think)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/pme-31000exswirlnlay.jpg

maybass77
12-31-2006, 07:52 AM
i heard he take's the customers deposits and buys star wars action figures off ebay.

maybass77
12-31-2006, 07:52 AM
...and LJS chicken planks...

msherman
12-31-2006, 10:19 AM
i heard he take's the customers deposits and buys star wars action figures off ebay.

The Force is with you;)

Greg Johnsen
12-31-2006, 11:28 AM
I used to not like pale moon that much, but this thread has definately changed my mind.

can't wait to see new pics.

Greg

stpvoodoo1
12-31-2006, 11:58 AM
Here's a rendering of the front and back of the bass...The neck will prob have slightly more purple and black in it though.

:hyper:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/frontback.jpg

Greg Johnsen
01-01-2007, 02:12 PM
That's just a sick lookin bass. I can't believe how well the purpleheart and PM ebony go together!

I think the neck would be sweet lookin if you made the center stripe purpleheart instead of what you have there now, but that's just my opinion.

Can't wait til I see some progress on this thing.

Greg

Jeronimofesto
01-01-2007, 02:28 PM
What program are you using to make those pictures? They look awesome, as well as the actual bass.

Greg Johnsen
01-01-2007, 03:57 PM
I believe the talk bass member beav2k2 made them. He has his own website and charges $7 per rendering I believe. To me, it would be worth th 7 bucks.

Greg

maybass77
01-01-2007, 06:04 PM
we've decided to use more purple in the neck, basically flipping the maple and the purpleheart. this is definately going to break the back (bank?)...

stpvoodoo1
01-01-2007, 07:12 PM
Yeah this bad boy has cost me a few pennies so far, but here's the way I look at it:..........Actually don't remind me..


:bawl: :bawl:

Greg Johnsen
01-01-2007, 07:40 PM
heh, try a few thousand pennies ;)

Any progress?

Greg

stpvoodoo1
01-01-2007, 09:27 PM
No progress today. We have decided to go with more ebony in the neck so I had to order another board. When it comes in (hopefully by Thurs/Fri) all the pieces will be in place. From there on out it should be smooth sailing.

maybass77
01-02-2007, 03:27 PM
im not making any promises, but if i have enough time i would like to get the fretboard(s) glued up and possibly slotted.

wallstreet
01-05-2007, 08:29 AM
i heard he take's the customers deposits and buys star wars action figures off ebay.

i heard one of his customers WAS gonna buy him a laptop.... but if its just for his sick star wars and animal pr0n fetishes... i dunno man! :D

maybass77
01-05-2007, 03:07 PM
can you believe i've never seen any of the star wars movies??? no joke...

wallstreet
01-05-2007, 08:56 PM
can you believe i've never seen any of the star wars movies??? no joke...

BLASPHEMY!

Bryan316
01-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Damnit Shawn, I'm kidnapping you and Force-feeding those movies! HAH! FORCE-feeding! Get it? I made a funny! Get it? The Force? HAHAHA! Hahaha! Haha.. ha..... heh...

Baaah, you're no fun...



;)

stpvoodoo1
01-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Ok, so Shawn worked up the fingerboard today..

I'm filled with glee!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/fingerboardcut.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/gluedboard.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/slottedfingerboard.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/slottedfingerboardwithwings.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/bodyneckcloseup.jpg

DigthemLows
01-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Wow, this is going to be an amazing bass........

tbone0813
01-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Subscribed. This is sick.

JSPguitars
01-09-2007, 02:24 AM
Somebody neeeds to send him a better camera :smug:

stpvoodoo1
01-09-2007, 09:20 AM
Yea. The phone ca pics are lame. He does have a dig cam, just no way to upload the pics (yet).

DigthemLows
01-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Email them to me and I'll host em...........Email's in my profile.

wallstreet
01-09-2007, 02:52 PM
mmmmmm.. that's turning out real nice!

Greg Johnsen
01-16-2007, 07:56 PM
progress...?

stpvoodoo1
01-16-2007, 10:11 PM
Shawn is taking a vacation this week man. Should get the neck boards cut/glued up next Mon/Tues. Hopefully I'll have it by thebeginning of Feb or so.

maybass77
01-17-2007, 12:29 PM
it's not so much a vacation (c'mon, who really goes to cleveland for vacation). it's more of a preparation to start cutting that ebony. why don't you just get a stone bass? Todd, you have any nice marble tops available?

stpvoodoo1
01-17-2007, 04:50 PM
Hmm...maybe make a bass out of lead??

NEW PICS from a real camera!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/403137cf-a630-4067-8bf9-d.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/dfb9513d-ffa6-4670-a530-1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/31a319bc-a88b-4d4b-92c6-0.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/00b5bcfb-df01-4583-bbbf-7.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/cc546746-d544-4e2c-a6e3-3.jpg

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

spudmaster34
01-17-2007, 05:12 PM
wow, it looks even beter with a real camera

pilotjones
01-17-2007, 06:12 PM
v nice!

JSPguitars
01-17-2007, 09:11 PM
now that's my kinda art!
Schweet!

Big Mike Ipp
01-17-2007, 09:51 PM
I'm dreading the final outcome of this bass cause I won't be able to stand the G.A.S. pains for a custom anylonger...there goes my savings :bawl:

TreeChild
01-17-2007, 10:24 PM
this is turning out to be one of the most beautiful basses i have ever seen!

Ray Holt
01-18-2007, 12:06 AM
That's a fine display of craftsmanship!!! I really like the black "swirl" going down the fingerboard. Must have taken a good amount of work to make that fit together nice and snug.

Can't wait to see some more progress :)

msherman
01-18-2007, 09:29 AM
Nice work Shawn!

That F/B is similar to this one.

pilotjones
01-18-2007, 09:59 AM
I think Conklin is king of that kind of thing.

maybass77
01-18-2007, 10:02 AM
Yeah, my first attempt at anything like that. I definately have a lot to learn, but Steve is keeping me busy at it.

stpvoodoo1
01-18-2007, 08:11 PM
I think it came out awesome. Excellent work on the FB. I think it invokes a grain line in the board which is cool...

LOVE the contrasts on this bass

It's so fun to look at!!!..(Yea I'm biased)

stpvoodoo1
01-24-2007, 09:37 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/100_2265.jpg

we're getting closer and closer...

Greg Johnsen
01-24-2007, 09:44 PM
that looks like it's gonna be very wide.... are you starting the taper from the back of the bass? Or is the neck gonna be thinner than that...

lookin great, hopefully I'll get mine up an running soon

Greg

stpvoodoo1
01-24-2007, 09:51 PM
yeah it'll definitely be thinner and tapered

maybass77
01-25-2007, 07:12 PM
oops!...i thought we were doing a 17 1/2 string!!!

Greg Johnsen
01-25-2007, 09:38 PM
oops!...i thought we were doing a 17 1/2 string!!!

that would be quite interesting, please explain the 1/2 string part ;)

can't wait to see some more progress

Greg

pilotjones
01-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Ever seen Jack Read's four and two-halves - stringer made for Vic Wooten?
http://web.archive.org/web/20050403143030/www.readcustom.com/vw1.jpg

stroy05
01-26-2007, 08:31 AM
i have actually played this bass. it is quite interesting. its a cool idea but it can take a little getting used to as far as your left hand getting around.

stpvoodoo1
01-26-2007, 01:43 PM
yeah...

Vic's "step-neck" bass is kinda odd...i dunno though..I mean, other than the novelty what real advantage is there?

I've never seen him play it but I think he might've put a bass track on some tune with it

pilotjones
01-26-2007, 03:10 PM
yeah...

Vic's "step-neck" bass is kinda odd...i dunno though..I mean, other than the novelty what real advantage is there?I would guess that the main idea is that you have something that feels exactly like a normal 4 when you're playing bass lines in the "money" area of the first frets, together with extended range available for soloing up high.

Greg Johnsen
01-26-2007, 03:39 PM
or tapping...

Greg

stroy05
01-26-2007, 05:47 PM
this bass sits in a closet with about 75 other basses

stpvoodoo1
01-27-2007, 03:55 PM
exactly

DigthemLows
02-08-2007, 02:51 PM
howz this badboy/girl coming?

GoatGruff
02-08-2007, 03:28 PM
wow, so the body is purpleheart and the neck is ebony/purpleheart?

stpvoodoo1
02-08-2007, 04:00 PM
yeah..this thing will weigh a ton

GoatGruff
02-08-2007, 05:20 PM
Yeah it will very heavy. but thats awsome. I bet it will sustain for days!

GoatGruff
02-12-2007, 02:30 PM
I did not see any post telling us what kind of pups/electronics were going into her. I'm curious.

stpvoodoo1
02-12-2007, 02:36 PM
I'm going with Bart soaps and an Aguilar OBP-3 Preamp!

Kinda worried about neck situation though...We MIGHT have to scrap the all ebony idea..

Will update when more develops

maybass77
02-12-2007, 08:14 PM
i'll let y'all know after i stop hackin up black snot and buy some new blades.

GoatGruff
02-12-2007, 11:29 PM
Yeah i could see ebony being difficult to work with. but it would be a shame to have to change the design now, the all ebony thing was a cool idea. i dont think ive ever seen a bass with so much ebony hah.

stpvoodoo1
02-13-2007, 09:42 AM
Well, I'm feeling good about the situation overall. Shawn really loves working with the ebony, so I'd hate to deprive him of that.

mikeyswood
03-11-2008, 08:56 PM
Any progress?

stpvoodoo1
03-11-2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah it's all done!!! And, as you can see..it's sick


http://maycustombasses.com/photos/large/b67c35b1-1f83-4286-8047-9.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/bassrezized.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/stpvoodoo1/eaf0970f-1f7f-49c4-a7f7-a-1.jpg

unclejam
03-11-2008, 09:35 PM
Damn

FrizzleFry
03-11-2008, 09:39 PM
Holy smokes!

Marcury
03-11-2008, 10:20 PM
Wow that is yummy. How's it sound?

fretlessspence
03-11-2008, 10:57 PM
more pics, sound files, anything!

Gabe.
03-12-2008, 12:27 AM
Speechless.