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Nami
11-30-2006, 08:04 AM
Hi guys,
I want to build a fretless fiver.
The twist is that i want it to sound kind of.... Brass-ish.
Closest to trumpet.
I thought about it and i think i need a REALLY solid wood.
A 5/3 Piece neck.
Neck through body.
But what electronics... pickups? passive/active? kind of preamp?
Maybe a fretless maple neck would help?
Maybe hollow body?
I don't know, I'm really puzzled now...:help:
maybe you have an idea what do i need to make it like that?

Thanks,
Gal :)

vintager
11-30-2006, 09:49 AM
i'm just curious about this thread.

interesting idea though..

Hambone
11-30-2006, 01:28 PM
My first build was an all flame maple body with a fretless maple/ebony neck. It surprised me to play it because it wasn't harshly bright like everyone expected. It's got a tight growly sound at any tone balance and when I solo the bridge pup with mids up it does indeed give you a brassy tone. This bass has a DeArmond preamp with twin soapbar pups. I think that active is definitely the way to go so you can really tweak the midrange.

Nami
11-30-2006, 03:24 PM
hmmmmm...
ebony fretboard VS all that maple....
Definetly LOTS of mid's....
good idea!
Tanx...
Do anyone think a wooden bridge would help?

Jazz Ad
11-30-2006, 03:31 PM
Metal fingerboards give this bright tone with even harmonics, without getting harsh.

eleonn
11-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Never heard about a fingerboard made from metal :eyebrow:

Wouldn't it be a little bit heavy?

spudmaster34
11-30-2006, 04:05 PM
not as bad as the ones made from stone

eleonn
11-30-2006, 04:15 PM
:eek: ...naahhhhhhhhhh

Nami
11-30-2006, 04:17 PM
metal fingerboard?!?!
any example?
maybe graphite.... but metal?!

Mark Perry
11-30-2006, 04:36 PM
Metal fingerboards give this bright tone with even harmonics, without getting harsh.

Brass fingerboard? Never knew metal fingerboards existed. Then again i have seen a youtube video of a guitarist playing a fretless guitar with a glass fingerboard.

eleonn
11-30-2006, 04:41 PM
Metal fretboards...

http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/images/185U/185U-297_fretboard.jpg
http://www.vigierguitars.com/gcatalog/GIcata/VE6FTouc.JPG

Yes yes ...I know ...those are g**t*rs ...but their fretboards are from metal!!!

spudmaster34
11-30-2006, 05:27 PM
stone! http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/spudmaster34/detail111.jpg http://www.nexus-guitars.com/bmmedusagranitezebrao.html

Mark Perry
11-30-2006, 05:34 PM
stone! http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/spudmaster34/detail111.jpg http://www.nexus-guitars.com/bmmedusagranitezebrao.html

:eek:

Mark Perry
11-30-2006, 05:38 PM
... And granite of all types of stone. How do the different materials the sound? (metal, stone, glass... uh Plastic?...)

eleonn
11-30-2006, 06:09 PM
stone! http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/spudmaster34/detail111.jpg

:eek: ....and it even looks nice!!! but it must weight like a ton!!!!!

keyboardguy
11-30-2006, 06:25 PM
"Trumpet-like sounding fretless?"

Try a Trombone.....



Sorry........ :D



Mike

ehque
11-30-2006, 08:48 PM
think its more of a EQ thing than anything. listen to micheal manring, that's about as brass-like as you can get, and he's still playing quite a normal bass (i play a zon, and i dont get that kind of sound).

gr8estbassist
11-30-2006, 08:54 PM
first thing that comes to mind is an all graphite neck.

Jazz Ad
12-01-2006, 05:28 AM
Never heard about a fingerboard made from metal :eyebrow:

Wouldn't it be a little bit heavy?No. It's so hard, it doesn't need to be thick.
Vigier Basses are offered with a metal board as an option.
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/img/produits/normal/2/1/21721.jpg

Hambone
12-01-2006, 05:35 AM
"Trumpet-like sounding fretless?"

Try a Trombone.....



Sorry........ :D



Mike

LOL!

...or is it a Trumpet sounding like a fretless? :confused:

Suburban
12-01-2006, 05:43 AM
LeFay has metal fingerboards, and so has Andreas. As option, of course. And its a thin sheet of stainless steel over a wooden core, so it's not very heavy.



And the trumpet is entirely free from frets, I'm sure of that.

eleonn
12-01-2006, 07:14 AM
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/img/produits/normal/2/1/21721.jpg

...nice bridge.

Nami
12-01-2006, 09:28 AM
God....
It's got to be awesome!!!
But the question is... How the hell can i build something like that?!
Or should i just order a neck from Vigier or LeFay?

PaleMelanesian
12-01-2006, 09:38 AM
For something more realistic - try a hard wood like ebony, and coat it with epoxy. Or use an acrylicized fretboard from Larry Davis at Gallery Hardwoods. Go listen to Basscast 27 (http://basscast.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=126654) to hear what an epoxy coated fretless can sound like. It's awesome!

edit: The hands of Mark Egan help a bit, as well.

eleonn
12-01-2006, 10:51 AM
edit: The hands of Mark Egan help a bit, as well.

...just a little tiny bit!!! :p