Since he gets ribbed here alot, I thought I would mention that the new issue of Bass Player with BX3 on the cover, has a feature story on mark Hoppus and his new band.

The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:
Justin Chancellor
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
They gave a 1 page blurb for Tony Levin!
Juan Alderete
And never give props to so many deserving players. In the meanwhile; Vic Wooten, Mark Hoppus, Les Claypool, and the same 7 or 8 guys keep getting the cover features. Although it was great to see Pino get a cover story...he's deserved it for a very long time!!

I was dissapointed that he didn't give insights into his amazing technique.


:D :hiding:

[QUOTE=vegas532;3753596]The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:
Justin Chancellor
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
They gave a 1 page blurb for Tony Levin!
Juan Alderete
And never give props to so many deserving players. In the meanwhile; Vic Wooten, Mark Hoppus, Les Claypool, and the same 7 or 8 guys keep getting the cover features. Although it was great to see Pino get a cover story.

:cool:
I agree.
As great as Geddy, Les, Vic, and Flea, are.
No more for a few months??????

I was dissapointed that he didn't give insights into his amazing technique.


:D :hiding:Yeah, we never got the real inside story. Maybe there wasn't an "inside".

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:
Justin Chancellor
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
They gave a 1 page blurb for Tony Levin!
Juan Alderete
And never give props to so many deserving players. In the meanwhile; Vic Wooten, Mark Hoppus, Les Claypool, and the same 7 or 8 guys keep getting the cover features. Although it was great to see Pino get a cover story...he's deserved it for a very long time!!

Justin Chancellor was on the cover when Lateralus came out.
Tony Levin was on the cover in 1995.

Justin Chancellor was on the cover when Lateralus came out.
Tony Levin was on the cover in 1995.
New albums, but no new articles...they only care about Flea, Vic, Les, and Geddy as was mentioned before.

The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:
Justin Chancellor
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
They gave a 1 page blurb for Tony Levin!
Juan Alderete
And never give props to so many deserving players. In the meanwhile; Vic Wooten, Mark Hoppus, Les Claypool, and the same 7 or 8 guys keep getting the cover features. Although it was great to see Pino get a cover story...he's deserved it for a very long time!!


I don't think you have been reading Bass Player long enough. I don't have my collection in front of me, but that was the second time Pino was in the covers, and like the 4th article. Tony Levin has had plenty of coverage, Justin Chancellor and Juan Alderete too. . .


Agree with Les Claypool, though, he's been featured WAY to many times. . .

I for one was glad to see a story about Mark H. I can't stop listening to the +44 album. There I said it.
Flame away.
I also found the rest of the BP mag an interesting read.

I saw Justin C on the cover of a bassplayer/bassist whatever it was called Magazine about 6 months ago towards the end of summer over here in London....

The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:

Juan Alderete


If you did pick it up, you would see a "Master Class" feature by Bryan Beller on two of Juan's songs from this past year in the latest issue...

I for one was glad to see a story about Mark H. I can't stop listening to the +44 album. There I said it.
Flame away.
I also found the rest of the BP mag an interesting read.

Nice story on James Genus and a very entertaining read on BX3 from Jude Gold, GP editor who is the guitarist on the tour.

I for one was glad to see a story about Mark H. I can't stop listening to the +44 album. There I said it.
Flame away.
I also found the rest of the BP mag an interesting read.
same here.

whether you guys like him or not, he can write a catchy song.

Nice story on James Genus and a very entertaining read on BX3 from Jude Gold, GP editor who is the guitarist on the tour.

I'm glad they did did a piece on James Genus. I didn't even know who he was. Every time I watch SNL I see him back there and think what a cool gig that must be. I always wondered who he was.
And yes the BX3 story was cool. I think it would be really cool to see that live.

I'm simply glad that it's not akin to "Guitar Player", where months alternate between Clapton and Hendrix. ;)

Josh is absolutely correct about generalizations, as a large deal can go into coverage or not. I don't believe Geddy has had a cover since his solo album in 2000 (perhaps an article about "Rush In Rio" or "R:30" but I don't recall one), Flea's last was shared along with the article along with Charlie Haden, as stated Juan has a major piece recently, and I'd lay money that Justin Chancellor might fall into "Tim Commerford Syndrome", given Tool's fairly hush-hush policy with press. Pino's also had multiple covers as well as articles as well over the years.

And let's be honest, there's an economic issues to this topic: well-known bassists will move more copies of non-subscription newsstand issues. BP itself addressed this issue when Rhonda Smith was featured with Prince (a killer bassist in his own right) on the cover: when a player that falls into "Sideman" status is given a cover, it's less recognizable to people leafing through a Borders than a "legend" or a player from a hit band and less likely to be a impulse buy. Despite Prince's wishes, BP chose a shot of both of them to have Rhonda more recognizable and sell more copies. It's one of these reasons like this in '89 when the publisher launched several new titles - after a few years, BP was the only one still in publication... and growing from a quarterly to a "quarterly plus" (8 a year), to a bi-monthly, and finally to a monthly. As well as consistently increasing their non-ad page count each year.

Despite both the illegitimate and legitimate gripes we might have with BP, I for one feel it's one of the most balanced in terms of styles as well as well-written "genre" music magazines on the stands today. Just compare it to "Guitar World's Bass Guitar", which was very much the bass version of "Guitar World" - covering the "Bassist of the Moment", articles written to and seemingly *by* 13-year-olds (I have hope that Ed Friedland, who took over as Editor will "class it up"). And to echo lefty007 and KPJ, perhaps you should purchase one as opposed to glancing at the cover or leafing through it - there's much more behind that shiny, glossy thing.

I'm not much off a jazz guy and I'm not much into classical music but after I have read the equipment reviews, the repair column, the rock player interviews, and the letters and such I go back and read the stuff I was the least interested in and there is always something to learn. I do feel it is a good magazine and it is pretty balanced IMO.

Even if you are not into jazz, you should read John Goldsby's woodshed columns, very informative. I think he' has the longest running instructor column. I have learned a lot from his column, and I do not play jazz at all.

+1 to Ian's post, also.

If a band is tight and writes good songs and puts on a good show then he should be on the cover or in an article. I'm 30 and to this day i have yet to hear Stanly Clark, Marcus Miller or Jeff Berlin but who cares when i can hear the spastic rubbery lines i love so much

If a band is tight and writes good songs and puts on a good show then he should be on the cover or in an article. I'm 30 and to this day i have yet to hear Stanly Clark, Marcus Miller or Jeff Berlin but who cares when i can hear the spastic rubbery lines i love so much

:confused: :eyebrow: :rollno: Whatever... i still think Dave LaRue deserves a cover instead of someone like...Sam Rivers (limp bizkit)

music is 10% music Like, whoa.

In my opion not to be rude but its the editors chioce on who they put in the mag. And really comparing bassist saying that one is better then another is really right. They are all good and obiously good at what they do to sell records.

and also, mark hoppus is the sorta guy a beginner bassist would listen to, perhaps theyre trying to claim the readership group of all the people who just got a bass for christmas.

That's a hefty generalization, and I've been a subscriber since the beginning.

Agreed with the generalization part. I think they've actually improved a bit over the past year or so. They seem to at least provide more bassist features, even if they are only a page long.

I dunno. We, as humans, will never be completely satisfied with anything in total. You take the perceived good with the perceived bad and you go with it.

If you did pick it up, you would see a "Master Class" feature by Bryan Beller on two of Juan's songs from this past year in the latest issue...

I'm glad someone else noticed this.

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

Well perhaps in regards to the music INDUSTRY. But music predates being bastardized by any form of industry.

I cant stand the music industry and grew up heavily immersed in music without the dollar sign = motivation element. (a grew up on DIY ethics/ music scenes where people played shows for cheap/ free and where the playing / enjoying the love of music completely transcended any other )

Not that I feel it is wrong or to make money playing muisc. It just should not be done in an exploitative manner (major and some indie record labels/ clubs) or by the bands themselves charging absurd amounts of money to play for 45min -2 hours.

People originally beat on drums to communicate with spirit entities or for communication during hunts / wars/ danger/ celebration. Later on, the motivation was to swoon lovers/ tell stories/ keep the king happy so your head wouldn't be chopped off. (aka- traveling troubadours- who did make or try to make a living from music but it was first and foremost for the love of music- not much $$$ to be made).

Music to me is 50% expression, 25% an outlet, 25% an esoteric ritual. Or sometimes those numbers are completely flipped around. Regardless, the entertaiment factor is the mere natural byproduct that is formed from the other elements.

Oh and no-- "expression" is not always an outlet.

Here's another vote for Mark Hoppus!:bassist:

He rocks..plain and simple guys. Don't hate the player,hate the game!

p.s. I'd love to get his sig model in either the dap. blue or rock'n pink. Yep, pink!:D

Kev

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

You're seriously putting Les Claypool and Flea in the same group with Mark Hoppus?

Claypool and Flea are revolutionary bass players, they changed the way people play bass.

You're seriously putting Les Claypool and Flea in the same group with Mark Hoppus?

Claypool and Flea are revolutionary bass players, they changed the way people play bass.

I hate to say it but Mark Hoppus made a lot of people notice bass.

I hate to say it but Mark Hoppus made a lot of people notice bass.

I'm sure he did. When you are in one of the most popular bands at the time (Blink 182), you are bound to have people emulate you. But to link those three guys together is a disservice to Les and Flea.

I agree "maybe" Mark Hoppus shouldn't be in that grouping...but he is the newer version of what the younger generation listen to. I'm old enough to like all three but Mark Hoppus hit mainstream music ealier than the other two. Take that and the technology we have now and you can see why he's ranked.

Kev

:confused: :eyebrow: :rollno: Whatever... i still think Dave LaRue deserves a cover instead of someone like...Sam Rivers (limp bizkit)

He was part of the "Bassists of G3" cover with the last year or so, far more recently than Sam Rivers... who is a damn good bassist in his own right.

Since he gets ribbed here alot, I thought I would mention that the new issue of Bass Player with BX3 on the cover, has a feature story on mark Hoppus and his new band.

Yeah hes awesome.
Its like,Victor Wooten may be better technically.
But Hoppus sounds better.

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

QFT. I don't want to go to shows where the bass/guitar players aren't rocking out or look like they're not having fun. And yep, that includes Justin C., as I discovered at tool's woeful Melbourne Myer Music Bowl gig.

Guys Guys, Mark Hoppus puts on his pants just like you and me, one leg at a time, except when his pants are on he makes gold records.:D

Seriously, it is OK to like Mark Hoppus. You can admit it, we're all friends here.

Drove my butt down to my local shop and ordered a D. Blue Hoppus today for a very good price of $548... OUT THE DOOR!
Should be here in two weeks. I'm excited.

They told me, that Fender told them... the D. Blue were gonna be discotinued very soon. Any word on the street about this? I don't think I'd pay $599-699 for this bass but at that price it's a no brainer.
DAMN, 4 basses bought in four months...
Wife is goona be mad:help:


p.s. Hoppus is the reason I got "back" into bass. And the lok on the tween teens face that was there watch me order it was awesome too. The kid said he wants to play like Hoppus too. i'm not a dad yet but seeing the look on that kids face makes me feel good to see the future bass players will be strong. And up front, instead back in the corner of the stage.

BASS on my friends!

Sadly I must say... He is an ok bass player... There I said it... He's ok...

Bash Hoppus all you want, but he's out there doing what he loves and gets to make a lot of dough at it too....meanwhile those who bash him are doing what now?????? Sitting here bashing others....

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

Music is 100% music.

Unless it's made to sell shell pink and surf green basses with no tone knobs to children. Then it's less than 5% music.

Some of you people are gonna have one huge laugh at yourselves when you turn 20 or so.

I still don't get all the bashing that occurs because the Hoppus sig bass only has a volume knob. Other more "respected" bassists also have signature or custom shop basses with only a volume knob, or no knobs at all with the pickup wired directly to the jack (i.e. the Anthony Jackson sig model). Sounds a bit hypocritical to me that Hoppus gets bashed for something that more "respected" bassists do too. Reeks of elitist B.S.

One thing I like about Bass Player is that they cover such a wide spectrum, from luminaries such as Steve Swallow (one of the best BP articles I've read in a long time) to blurbs on HxC or punk bassists who perhaps can't read music or have fancy chops, but respect the bass and respect their role in the band. I feel there is insight to be gained from everything. You can learn much from both fools and sages. And if you take cultural variation into account, a fool in one context is a sage in another.

While I personally think it's downright stupid to be a musician who can't read music, that's just my opinion. And regardless, I still respect guys like Peter "Hooky" Hook and their contributions to music, even though they can't read music. I recall that one recent article about Mick Karn who did things backwards- he had found his voice before learning the technicalities of music.

Music shouldn't be a pissing contest. The whole "Wooten is better than Hoppus" is like the whole 2nd grade playground banter of "my dad's smarter than your dad!" Both musicians know and respect their roles in their various musical situations and have a ton of respect for bass and for music as a whole.

...and I wish the Hoppus bass still came in pink. I'd get one.

I still don't get all the bashing that occurs because the Hoppus sig bass only has a volume knob. Other more "respected" bassists also have signature or custom shop basses with only a volume knob, or no knobs at all with the pickup wired directly to the jack (i.e. the Anthony Jackson sig model). Sounds a bit hypocritical to me that Hoppus gets bashed for something that more "respected" bassists do too. Reeks of elitist B.S.

One thing I like about Bass Player is that they cover such a wide spectrum, from luminaries such as Steve Swallow (one of the best BP articles I've read in a long time) to blurbs on HxC or punk bassists who perhaps can't read music or have fancy chops, but respect the bass and respect their role in the band. I feel there is insight to be gained from everything. You can learn much from both fools and sages. And if you take cultural variation into account, a fool in one context is a sage in another.

While I personally think it's downright stupid to be a musician who can't read music, that's just my opinion. And regardless, I still respect guys like Peter "Hooky" Hook and their contributions to music, even though they can't read music. I recall that one recent article about Mick Karn who did things backwards- he had found his voice before learning the technicalities of music.

Music shouldn't be a pissing contest. The whole "Wooten is better than Hoppus" is like the whole 2nd grade playground banter of "my dad's smarter than your dad!" Both musicians know and respect their roles in their various musical situations and have a ton of respect for bass and for music as a whole.

...and I wish the Hoppus bass still came in pink. I'd get one.

WELL SAID!

He now plays a new one with ash body and reversed P right?

did it ever come in pink?, it looks aewsome in pink but i dont like the other colours :(

Music is 100% music.

Unless it's made to sell shell pink and surf green basses with no tone knobs to children. Then it's less than 5% music.

Some of you people are gonna have one huge laugh at yourselves when you turn 20 or so.

I'll have a huge laugh at you while I'm enjoying my Blink 182 and +44. I recognize good music when I hear it.

Bass Players that don't have hits in the top 40 don't sell magazines. Advertisers pay the fact the mag sells. I don't buy those advertisments with an occasional article.

Bash Hoppus all you want, but he's out there doing what he loves and gets to make a lot of dough at it too....meanwhile those who bash him are doing what now?????? Sitting here bashing others....

Never a truer word spoken, besides that Fender have given him his own signature bass how cool is that.

music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

How about, music CAN BE a form of entertainment?

The new +44 material is actually really good. I generally despise music in that vein, but the new album is a guilty pleasure of mine ;)

He was part of the "Bassists of G3" cover with the last year or so, far more recently than Sam Rivers... who is a damn good bassist in his own right.

Ian, i don't think you understood what i said.
I said "Dave Larue deserves a cover more than somebody like Sam Rivers".
Dave has never been on the cover and he's been playing as a pro (with Steve Morse, Dixie Dregs, Joe Satriani) for a lot more time than Sam which BTW i think is a good bassist but... where is he now?
The cover you are refering to was Nov. 2001 and on the cover was Robert Deleo.

the reason a lot of the godlike players get overlooked is a good one. music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

I'm thinking it's a lot closer to 5% showmanship. I'm frankly tired of seeing hacks jumping off of amps and pretending to be the new bass god...it was old in the 80's, and is worse now.

First of all, I wanna say that I've met Tony Levin and I love Vic Wooten's songs(Still learning "Amazing Grace") and I love Paul McCartney and Jaco's music and they're great players and I wanna see more articles in Bass Player, so I know great bass players. On the other hand, I love Mark Hoppus' bass playing and he too is a great player. Most of the older Blink songs had more notes and riffs. "Carousel" is a great example. The song isn't super technical but it sounds great. And even some of the new stuff is great. I love the bassline to "Always". But you have to remember, Blink wasn't a technical group. They played fast and hard with simple chords, but they added great riffs. So taken the genre they play and how tastefully they made songs, they did really well. I personally love the Enema of the State album cause his bass sounded so freakin' cool. I wanna know how he eq'ed his Stingrays.So no, he's no Jaco or Wooten or McCartney, but they weren't each other either. They all had different styles and used what they could. Go ahead, blast me cause I'm a Hoppus fan.

When I was young (much younger than toda-ay...), I used to listen to Blink. In fact, I dropped that stuff about the time I picked up bass. I vividly remember that the first day I got my bass, I've learnt 'Carousell', which is probably the pinnacle of Hoppus' musicanship. The following day I went through the rest of their well-known songs, and I thought to myself "Err is it all that takes to be that famous?" I have to say I played classic guitar before bass for a brief period of time, so I had some skills, but still, is tat all that takes to be that famous? The only real musician in Blink was their drummer, who's got skills without doubt.
I don't mean this to be a Hoppus-hate post, I just think that many good musicians/bands are overlooked while those lacking musical talent attract the teen crowds with hands-down brillaint lyrics like "Piss sh** f*** cu** cocksucker mother****er". :rolleyes: You know who should get inerviews? The bassist from the original line-up of Catch-22. I ran across their stuff by accident, and it proved to be one of the few examples where punk (granted, it is ska-punk) has non-trivial basslines.

The new +44 material is actually really good. I generally despise music in that vein, but the new album is a guilty pleasure of mine ;)

dude i can listen to that album just for the drums alone. travis is a sick drummer. he's better than most drummers with one hand... look up their letterman show.

nothing wrong with hoppus. theres always better players out there. but he's solid, and he sounds good. i'll listen to hoppus over wooten or jaco any day. i couldn't call either of those dudes better musicians... because they aren't making me wanna listen to them. they aren't writing catchy lyrics, or writing catchy songs. and to me they don't sound good, in fact they're downright annoying.

I'm thinking it's a lot closer to 5% showmanship. I'm frankly tired of seeing hacks jumping off of amps and pretending to be the new bass god...it was old in the 80's, and is worse now.

yes its far more entertaining watching bass players rooted to the spot staring at their fretboard like a cardboard cutout than someone who gets the crowd going and fools around jumping off amps etc
c'mon imagine going to a gig where all the band do is stand motionless and tap there feet *yawn* boring show me bruce dickinson climbing the rafters show me victor wooten tossing his bass about show me steve harris with his foot on a monitor speaker i paid to see a show not to watch a set of statues:bassist:

people who bash Hoppus are just plain immature and diden't realize his position and what he did and was capable of doing..

I really don't like his music and know nothing about his skills, but he's made quite a living doing what he does, and that's writing, singing and playing bass. That makes him professional at all those things and so he deserves to be in bass player mag.

But then maybe I'm wrong to comment because I, like a lot of other bozo's was influenced by Sid Vicious, who didn't play on anything and could barely hold the damn thing.

Plus let's remember, Paul McCartney played the most simple, derivative basslines for how many albums??... until he realized there was more to the instrument... jus sayin...

But Mark Hoppus isn't a bass player! ;)

But Mark Hoppus isn't a bass player! ;)

neither was Sid!!! But he knew how long a strap should be... :D

why all the hoppus bashing? i'm not a fan of blink 182 but do u expect him to start piddly widdlying on the bass during a pop punk song? that would sound out of place

music is a form of entertainment, and you have to know how to market it, and put on a good show. Flea, Les, and Hoppus all do this. music is 10% music, 20% marketing, and 70% showmanship.

Someone better tell John Patittucci. OH JOOOOHHHNNN! You're playing is only ten percent of what you doooooooo! :D

A litle off topic, but does anybody know how he eq'ed his Stingrays and Ampegs while recording Enema of the State??

Alright...
I just need to get my view out...
Mind you I have a bias...


The man goes out and makes quality music! (whether it's to your taste or not, it IS well made.) and just because he doesn't show off spectacular skill he still goes out and gets crowds going, all while playing catchy basslines and singing his heart out.
He's living a dream most of us here would kill to live...
AND!
He's gotten many kids, like myself, to pick up a bass. We all know we need more bass players out there!!
So is what he's doing bad, at all? I don't believe so.

Hoppus is a pretty good player. I dont bash him at all. Alot of original sounding stuff on blinks early albums.

i though he used his custom shop basses and ampeg ?
didnt he use the music man just on the very first album ?

anyone ever hear the bass intro from "Carousel"? It's kinda sweet.

Firstly, I would like to say that I am a HUGGE fan of Blink-182 and (+44) and to me, Hoppus is a god. Now, with that off my chest, I would just like to say, that he might not be wooten, but he is really good. If anyone has seen a vid of Blink, they would see that when Mark is playing, he is usually also singing and jumping around like his pants are on fire.

I would rather listen to him than wooten any day.

The reason why I don't even pick up Bass Player anymore. So far this year they've overlooked:
Justin Chancellor
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
They gave a 1 page blurb for Tony Levin!
Juan Alderete
And never give props to so many deserving players. In the meanwhile; Vic Wooten, Mark Hoppus, Les Claypool, and the same 7 or 8 guys keep getting the cover features. Although it was great to see Pino get a cover story...he's deserved it for a very long time!!

man there's you, me and maybe 3 or 4 other guys on this forum that know what is ISIS. I think this may be a goo reason.

I still don't get all the bashing that occurs because the Hoppus sig bass only has a volume knob. Other more "respected" bassists also have signature or custom shop basses with only a volume knob, or no knobs at all with the pickup wired directly to the jack (i.e. the Anthony Jackson sig model).
.

wishbass has only 1 volume control :hiding::ninja:

dude i can listen to that album just for the drums alone. travis is a sick drummer. he's better than most drummers with one hand... look up their letterman show.

nothing wrong with hoppus. theres always better players out there. but he's solid, and he sounds good. i'll listen to hoppus over wooten or jaco any day. i couldn't call either of those dudes better musicians... because they aren't making me wanna listen to them. they aren't writing catchy lyrics, or writing catchy songs. and to me they don't sound good, in fact they're downright annoying.

catchiness =/= good (musically speaking of course and by not considering opinions of anyone, not even mine)