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tjclem 03-16-2007, 09:33 AM I did a jazz body with Natural Watco Danish Oil and it turned a light brown. A fellow tb'r suggested that the oil had gotten old. This is possible. The problem is now what do I do. I will be able to work on it again Saturday..I did the oiling on it Tuesday.....It soaked a lot in so I won't be able to just light sand it and put on new oil. What ideas do you guys have? I don't have the ability to spray color I would spray it a solid color. Just for info the neck is birdseye with a birdseye fingerboard and it it getting a clear gloss poly treatment. Thanks for any ideas. I don't want to just toss the body on the burn pie....t
wilser 03-16-2007, 10:31 AM I did a jazz body with Natural Watco Danish Oil and it turned a light brown. A fellow tb'r suggested that the oil had gotten old. This is possible. The problem is now what do I do. I will be able to work on it again Saturday..I did the oiling on it Tuesday.....It soaked a lot in so I won't be able to just light sand it and put on new oil. What ideas do you guys have? I don't have the ability to spray color I would spray it a solid color. Just for info the neck is birdseye with a birdseye fingerboard and it it getting a clear gloss poly treatment. Thanks for any ideas. I don't want to just toss the body on the burn pie....t
why don't you post a pic of your resulting 'light brown' stain? do you have the ability to spray tinted finishes? An idea that comes to mind is maybe doing a burst. Spray a couple of clear coats over the oil (after about a month of it drying) and then some deep black tinted finish, on the edges, then some more clear coats.
if I remember correctly watco danish oil is not a true oil finish, but an oil based varnish, so some shellac between it and the burst coats should minimize compatibility issues.
Bryan316 03-16-2007, 12:19 PM Lesson learned: Always test your finishes on a scrap piece of your wood.
That sucks, man. This ain't paint, it's soaked all the way in. You'd have no guarantee, either, that sanding it back will remove the oil and coloring.
tjclem 03-16-2007, 12:22 PM "Lesson learned: Always test your finishes on a scrap piece of your wood."
I bought the body.......There was no scrap to try it on..t
Rodent 03-16-2007, 12:23 PM hmmmm ... if the old brown Watco will actually dry, you can always sand back lightly and apply fresh for a two toned oil finish. it may not be what you set out to achieve, but it could turn out to be something totally cool
all the best,
R
tjclem 03-16-2007, 12:29 PM hmmmm ... if the old brown Watco will actually dry, you can always sand back lightly and apply fresh for a two toned oil finish. it may not be what you set out to achieve, but it could turn out to be something totally cool
all the best,
R
Thanks that is exactly what I am hoping for. It lived in my greenhouse for afew days and I brought it into the house today. I will check it out tomorrow and see how dry it is. I hate to scratch the body all up and start over but it may look cool in the end. Not sure how heavy a grit to start with.
Bryan316 03-16-2007, 12:59 PM I bought the body.......There was no scrap to try it on..t
AWW! Crap.... then... well nothing more to say than it's a learning experience, I guess. Damn. :scowl:
Bryan316 03-16-2007, 01:02 PM Thanks that is exactly what I am hoping for. It lived in my greenhouse for afew days and I brought it into the house today. I will check it out tomorrow and see how dry it is. I hate to scratch the body all up and start over but it may look cool in the end. Not sure how heavy a grit to start with.
Somebody gave the best sanding method a few days ago. Start with 80-grit, then work your way up. 120, 150, 180, 220, and finalize with an autobody grade like 800 or 1000.
Cut very slowly with the 80-grit on the back of the body, until you see the color come away. If you have to remove too much wood, then you know it won't work. definitely start on the back so you can hide it.
tjclem 03-16-2007, 01:05 PM 80 sounds a bit too nasty. I was thinking about starting with 120 and starting in the neck plate area on the back so it will be covered..t
Bryan316 03-16-2007, 01:36 PM Okay, 120 will be gentler and slower, so it'll be easier to work without cutting in too quickly. You'll have to keep that paper clean from dust, so remember to brush/wipe away often.
tjclem 03-22-2007, 07:17 PM Here is the body now. I haven't started sanding on it yet.
In that photo, it looks just like natural swamp ash with no colouring. Maybe its the pic, but I don't think its that bad as is...
Musiclogic 03-22-2007, 11:37 PM Hey Tom, how did it go on this one?
tjclem 03-23-2007, 05:06 AM Hey Tom, how did it go on this one?
Sort of letting it sit while I decide what to do. I did wash it down with the paint thinner but haven't sanded on it yet. It will be an e-bay bass so I have been spending more time on the custom orders than on this one. I am on the way to N.C. to pick up my fathers tools, he passed away in July andhad a beautiful workshop he barely had started to use. Jet vaccume and air cleaning system bench dog router table etc.etc.etc. My new workshop is almost done so the tools are coming down. I am considering having it bursted or painted black. This is the neck. The whole neck and fingerboard are this heavily birdseyed.
Rodent 03-23-2007, 05:21 AM you're going to paint that neck black :eek:
:hiding:
I actually dig the darker color of the Ash body
all the best,
R
tjclem 03-23-2007, 05:36 AM you're going to paint that neck black :eek:
:hiding:
I actually dig the darker color of the Ash body
all the best,
R
No not the neck. :rollno: The 70's were tough onme but not that tough. ;)
Musiclogic 03-23-2007, 07:30 AM LMAO....the 70's......WOW...you're old enough to remember the 70's, or should I say lucid enough???LMAO and here I thought I was the only geezer on here.
That neck is pretty.
FBB Custom 03-23-2007, 09:56 AM The body doesn't look that bad to me.
tjclem 03-24-2007, 07:52 AM Yup I am an antique :p "The body doesn't look that bad to me."
That is the problem "Not looking that bad" just doesn't go with that neck.t
JSPguitars 03-24-2007, 03:21 PM Yup I am an antique :p "The body doesn't look that bad to me."
That is the problem "Not looking that bad" just doesn't go with that neck.t
2-words: TOBACCO BURST
tjclem 03-24-2007, 04:40 PM that is what I am thinking..t
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