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Nomad98 04-20-2007, 01:53 PM Time for build number two.
semi-hollow fretless 6
spanish cedar body
maple top
maple/purpleheart neck
black hardware
piezo pickups under bridge saddles
one soapbar
The design is a modification of my first build (http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255031). A little tweaking with the lines and of course the semihollow body with sound holes.
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-1.jpg
I have the body routed out. I stained the inside of the body holes black which makes it look like the routes are bad along the edges but really they are not. Spanish cedar is nice to work with... I also routed out wiring channels for the soapbar and piezo, I am not sure about the placement of the soapbar so, the channel goes far enough that I could place the pickup anywhere or use two soapbars if I want?
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-2.jpg
I made two neck blanks and will have to decide which to use now and later in "build 3." I want to try using NO carbon fiber rods and one 2 way truss rod?? The neck is not wide at the nut, (2 inches) and I'm hoping that the purpleheart will stiffen things enough to keep the neck stable. Any thoughts on this strategy will be welcome.
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-3.jpg
Body with maple top not glued...
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-4.jpg
Top glued and routed. This weekend I am hoping to put a radius on the body edges and contour the back. When I routed out the semi-hollow cavities I varied the depth to allow for a belly contour.
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-5.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-6.jpg
Thanks for looking...
Greenman 04-20-2007, 02:00 PM Nice top. I like the figure at the end of the neck. Good idea doing all the routes before gluing the top on.
Geoff St. Germaine 04-20-2007, 02:27 PM Nice! Love the design.
britrit 04-20-2007, 03:34 PM Just for future referencing, could you tell me how thick your cedar core is? It looks really nice.
Sterling_Bass 04-20-2007, 03:44 PM Great design. Can't wait to see this one finish.
Nomad98 04-20-2007, 03:47 PM Just for future referencing, could you tell me how thick your cedar core is? It looks really nice.
The cedar core is about 1 1/2 inches (35mm) and the top is a 1/4 inch (6mm) give or take?
Nomad98 05-01-2007, 10:35 AM I have the neck cut to shape and the body contoured... Next step is to cut the lines for the fingerboard and contour the back of the body where the neck pocket/neck meet.
I am going to glue the FB on, then shape the back of the neck... My first build I did it the other way around and ran into clamping issues. Do most builders glue the FB then shape the back of the neck??
Anyway... take a look. Phil (Nomad98)
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-10.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-7.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-8.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-9.jpg
Maurits 05-01-2007, 10:40 AM Looks very good, really like that fingerboard.
For the bass I'm building at the moment I'm also glueing on the board first, then shape the neck.
Fishbrain 05-01-2007, 10:47 AM +1 on the board. love it
wilser 05-01-2007, 11:08 AM amazing looking bass. Love that fingerboard. Many of the purists would scuff at the flatsawn board ...not me, though, I'm a recent graduate of the university of ADDON-GIVASHT.
seems like you had some issues there with the neck taper and the laminates.
Ray Holt 05-01-2007, 11:12 AM Many of the purists would scuff at the flatsawn board ...not me, though, I'm a recent graduate of the university of ADDON-GIVASHT.
:D That's sig quality material right there!
The bass is looking good... that's a beautiful top. And yeah, it does look like you had a little trouble with those neck lams.... have a picture of the back of the neck?
Nomad98 05-01-2007, 11:32 AM amazing looking bass. Love that fingerboard. Many of the purists would scuff at the flatsawn board ...not me, though, I'm a recent graduate of the university of ADDON-GIVASHT.
seems like you had some issues there with the neck taper and the laminates.
Well... the neck tapers to 2 inches, I knew that the purpleheart would show at that point but I am going to dye the back of the neck black so it won't be so noticable. My intent is to use some hefty purpleheart stringers (3/4 inch) to compensate for not using carbon fiber rods and only one 2-way truss rod!? Am I crazy?...
:D That's sig quality material right there!
The bass is looking good... that's a beautiful top. And yeah, it does look like you had a little trouble with those neck lams.... have a picture of the back of the neck?
The neck is pictured in the original post (look up) it is the maple/purpleheart/maple/purpleheart/maple on the left.
I am really hoping that the neck will be stable and not look too bad with the purpleheart showing through!?
Thanks,
Phil (Nomad98)
wilser 05-01-2007, 12:34 PM IMHO and limited experience, what you're doing is good, but definetely not necessary. My most recent bass is a 6 string with a 35" scale. The neck is carved pretty thin out of QS padauk (thanks Larry!) and it's very, very stiff. It's got a single dual action truss rod and no carbon fiber.
But hey! that's just me!
It's a great looking instrument, nevertheless.
I see you also use the dining table as a 'workbench' :D I did my last wiring job on the dining table and have been given an ultimatum by the boss (wife), do not attempt to get your tools near that table ever again.
Nomad98 05-01-2007, 12:45 PM IMHO and limited experience, what you're doing is good, but definetely not necessary.
I see you also use the dining table as a 'workbench' :D I did my last wiring job on the dining table and have been given an ultimatum by the boss (wife), do not attempt to get your tools near that table ever again.
Just to clarify, is the "not necessary" the thick PH stringers?
P.S.
My "Boss" allows the dining table for display/planning only. Although I have also soldered at it. Why press my luck.
Linkert 05-01-2007, 02:29 PM Wow! Going big at the first two builds :D Like that. She looks like something i would buy :D
wilser 05-01-2007, 03:45 PM Just to clarify, is the "not necessary" the thick PH stringers?
P.S.
My "Boss" allows the dining table for display/planning only. Although I have also soldered at it. Why press my luck.
Let me clarify what I'm trying to say. In my limited experience, most of the time, a multi laminate is overkill. Sure, it looks good and customers love them, but as far as being absolutely necessary for a neck to be strong enough, I don't think so.
I hope I didn't just unite the masses against me with that one there. :(
Nomad98 05-01-2007, 07:56 PM I hope I didn't just unite the masses against me with that one there. :(
Seems like the masses don't care today! Just as well...
Chandler Bing 05-16-2007, 06:48 PM This is looking great so far. I'm bookmarking this one. Cant wait for updates!
Nomad98 05-22-2007, 12:58 PM Well a slight bit of progress...
I cut my first fingerboard and added maple and mahogany lines on the fretless F.B. The maple is for the fretmarker lines and mahogany is for the others. I was after something that was a little less offensive then maple lines for each fret. It's a little hard to see in the picts but when the F.B. is finished the lines will pop a little more. I will have to see how I like it after it's done.
I also got the neck fit to the pocket.
Thanks for looking.
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-11.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-12a.jpg
wilser 05-22-2007, 01:29 PM top job! Can't wait to see it finished. Are you going to spray a burst on it like on the first?
Thonk 05-22-2007, 01:37 PM Very Sexy nice a clean cant wait to see that top pop!
Cheers
thonk
Nomad98 05-22-2007, 01:44 PM top job! Can't wait to see it finished. Are you going to spray a burst on it like on the first?
I think I will put a burst on it but I'm leaning towards a traditional "Fender" sunburst (yellow/red/black) but the black will be a little transparrent. I guess I like that old school look! What do you think?
wilser 05-22-2007, 02:14 PM I think I will put a burst on it but I'm leaning towards a traditional "Fender" sunburst (yellow/red/black) but the black will be a little transparrent. I guess I like that old school look! What do you think?
I think it would look fantastic! I'm also planning a vintage 3 tone burst for my personal 5 string. Keep in mind that it's actually honey amber/reddish brown/black.
Nomad98 05-22-2007, 02:23 PM I think it would look fantastic! I'm also planning a vintage 3 tone burst for my personal 5 string. Keep in mind that it's actually honey amber/reddish brown/black.
YES! Thanks... I bought honey amber, bright red (which I was thinking I would tone with the brown that I have from my first build) and of course the black. I was unsure which red to get so I thought I could run a test to see how the colors blend. If that failed I would buy the reddish brown...
-Sam- 05-22-2007, 06:38 PM This one is awesome plus the design is alot nicer for my eyes
Chandler Bing 05-26-2007, 08:17 PM top job! Can't wait to see it finished. Are you going to spray a burst on it like on the first?
ditto.
Nomad98 10-08-2007, 11:22 AM After a long hiatus I am back. I have been lurking all summer watching a lot of great basses being built on T.B. It is time to finish off this thing.
I decided to scrap the piezo bridge... I was going to have that be my only pickup, just decided that since I had a 6er bridge and an extra pickup I would default to the easy way out.
I am so used to the idea of no magnetic pickup in the body it is hard to look at the bass with that black bar stuck in the middle. I may try to make a pickup cover as a compromise. There have been some great tutorials here on doing that and this bass may be a good candidate for that venture? I am concerned about the semi hollow cavities being too close to the pickup route but I think I will try to make the cover then commit to routing the pickup cavity out a bit more. I am just not sure how thin I can get the cover sides?
Other than the above... I just need to sand, drill the knob/jack holes and make a control cover for the back! Then apply the finish! (That seems like a lot left to be done.)
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14a.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14c.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14b.jpg
waseok 10-08-2007, 11:47 AM will you accentuate the hollow cavities somehow?
Nomad98 10-08-2007, 11:55 AM Like put lights in them... :D
Seriously, I plan on finishing the bass in a 3 tone sunburst yellow/red/black. The black will be mostly on the sides of the bass so the holes will be set into the red/yellow area. There is black stain in the cavities (they are very dusty in the pics) and I hope that will make them pop a little since there will be semigloss finish on the body and no finish (flat) in the holes.
eleonn 10-08-2007, 12:01 PM I read the whole thread again to see if I can find which wood that fretboard is from but you didn't mention that. What wood is that?
Nomad98 10-08-2007, 12:07 PM I believe the board is Bolivian Rosewood!? I had seen it at Rockler and couldn't get it out of my mind... It was there for about a month and then I bought it (that was a while ago)!
The board should look nice after I finish sanding it and add some CA.
bassksun 10-08-2007, 03:57 PM Nice lookin' bass. That core is primo! What's the weight on this one?
Suburban 10-09-2007, 08:34 AM Very good looking stuff!
Nomad98 10-09-2007, 10:33 AM Nice lookin' bass. That core is primo! What's the weight on this one?
The body weights in at just under 4 lbs (bathroom scale estimate).
I really like spanish cedar... weight, workability, and smell. I hope it finishes nicely?
waseok 10-09-2007, 03:52 PM Like put lights in them... :D
Actually i though of gluing binding on the inner part of the hollow holes =)
Nomad98 10-09-2007, 03:59 PM Actually i though of gluing binding on the inner part of the hollow holes =)
YES! I have thought of that?
I usually think of it in the context of "the next semi hollow I do in this style will have binding around the body edges and the F (teardrop) holes."
So do you think it would look good with binding just in the holes?
waseok 10-10-2007, 11:58 AM I think that teardrop holes look very nice and they should be accentuated somehow because the sunburst will make them less noticeable..imho..
Well the binding around the bass will look also very sexy, but dunno i just like how you round the edges, very very beautyfull..so id go with binding just for holes =)
Nomad98 10-10-2007, 01:11 PM This is sort of what I'm thinking with the burst... not too much black on the top, just on the sides, with the red and yellow on the top. I am hoping this will set off the holes. (Keep in mind that this is a quick Photoshop burst)
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14d.jpg
gre107 10-10-2007, 01:18 PM Noooo! Don't do it! Leave it natural looking! Maybe a slight stain but just a matte or gloss finish!
The picture above with just the natural wood looks soooo much better!
Peace!
Nomad98 10-10-2007, 01:32 PM Noooo! Don't do it! Leave it natural looking! Maybe a slight stain but just a matte or gloss finish!
The picture above with just the natural wood looks soooo much better!
Peace!
But doesn't every boutique bass go the natural route? The purest wood thing gets so boring sometimes... not that I have anything against that but since it's my second build I am interested in seeing what color can do?
Look at what Brubaker does with color... Just plain old "awesome!" Not that I am comparing myself to his talents but rather it is an inspiration to see someone really let loose in a way that makes his craft stand apart from the others.
Of course natural is nice too! ;)
waseok 10-10-2007, 05:21 PM Im with gre107
Natural looks waay better
i just love that top
Afterall, u can paint it anytime if you get bored of the natural finish, right? ;)
theshadow2001 10-10-2007, 05:29 PM Natural does look great. But I must say that sunburst a finish that I really don't like anyway
Nomad98 10-11-2007, 06:59 AM Hmmmmm!
All down on the burst?
I will consider this... But I will have to do some tests with the burst to see what the REAL colors will be. Mine were random PSD colors and I'm sure the real thing will look differently.
DanielM 10-11-2007, 09:38 AM that is one fine looking bass! not too keen on the burst myself, but that flatsawn board gets top markes.
Justin Tuskey 10-11-2007, 09:49 AM I have to agree with you Nomad, I like the burst, because its a different route from custom built basses. While natural is great (im a spalted maple guy) I think you should go with a burst. Have you thought of a green blue burst with black edge? That would look sweet. Only thing I definitely think you should do is get black knobs to match the rest of your harware. So far the design is really killer though, major props for building a bass.....one step ahead of me ;)
Nomad98 10-11-2007, 10:51 AM WOW... finally someone that likes a burst!
I have given the black/green burst a thought (really, I have!). There are some basses that I've seen that are killer with that finish! I am sure that finish is going to happen down the road.
Chrome knobs are not going on the bass! Just had them laying around for the pic.
Thanks for the positive comments from all!
I have to agree with you Nomad, I like the burst, because its a different route from custom built basses. While natural is great (im a spalted maple guy) I think you should go with a burst. Have you thought of a green blue burst with black edge? That would look sweet. Only thing I definitely think you should do is get black knobs to match the rest of your harware. So far the design is really killer though, major props for building a bass.....one step ahead of me ;)
callmeMrThumbs 10-11-2007, 11:43 AM Definitely do the vintage burst! It really makes it unique...in some kind of traditional way...:hiding: Like you said, naturally finished botiques get pretty boring.
-Josh
Billy Low 10-11-2007, 12:49 PM BURST!!!!!!
Nomad98 10-12-2007, 08:09 AM Yesteday I fit the electronics cover... Went easier than the last bass I made! (It will be attached with countersunk screws)
I decided to match it with spanish cedar.
I am very close to starting the finish (WOO WHOOO!)
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14e.jpg
theshadow2001 10-12-2007, 01:20 PM Hmm looking at that picture gave me the idea that it would be cool to make push fit plugs for where the bolts go to cover them over. Although it might not work too well with wood. Maybe you could use a rubber material with a wood veneer glued on. I dunno really I'm just thinking out loud. Maybe it's been done before. Maybe it's been tried and discredited. Maybe Im just a nut and a dreamer. Still though I think it would add a nice touch. Probably wouldn't work on that bass though. The holes would probably need to be deeper.
Billy Low 10-12-2007, 03:26 PM Have you decided on the finish yet? I hope that you decide something other than natural. Even though I like natural finishes, they just seems so 'last decade' IMHO. Unless you have a wood that is truely unique, I say FREAK IT OUT!
Nomad98 10-12-2007, 03:41 PM YES... I will do a burst on the lines of honey/red/black. I just can't see this as a natural finish. I do have some tops that I am going to use in future builds that will be natural but not this one.
Hopefully in the next week I will be able to finish sanding and start with the burst.
Mark Wilson 10-12-2007, 03:45 PM This is sort of what I'm thinking with the burst... not too much black on the top, just on the sides, with the red and yellow on the top. I am hoping this will set off the holes. (Keep in mind that this is a quick Photoshop burst)
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-14d.jpg
mmm...Do that!
Nomad98 10-12-2007, 03:47 PM Hmm looking at that picture gave me the idea that it would be cool to make push fit plugs for where the bolts go to cover them over. Although it might not work too well with wood. Maybe you could use a rubber material with a wood veneer glued on. I dunno really I'm just thinking out loud. Maybe it's been done before. Maybe it's been tried and discredited. Maybe Im just a nut and a dreamer. Still though I think it would add a nice touch. Probably wouldn't work on that bass though. The holes would probably need to be deeper.
The plugs are an interesting idea but if I was going to all that trouble I would just scrap the bolt on and go with a neck thru body construction. Plus I really couldn't go any deeper with the holes at this point!
Dream On!
Billy Low 10-13-2007, 01:20 AM YES... I will do a burst on the lines of honey/red/black. I just can't see this as a natural finish. I do have some tops that I am going to use in future builds that will be natural but not this one.
Hopefully in the next week I will be able to finish sanding and start with the burst.
:hyper::hyper::hyper::D:D:D
Yea Burst is cool, I agree. Is this the first time you use Cedro? leaves a great taste in the mouth doesnt it? :smug:
Nomad98 10-13-2007, 07:38 AM Yea Burst is cool, I agree. Is this the first time you use Cedro? leaves a great taste in the mouth doesnt it? :smug:
Yes it is my first time using Cedar, love everything about it but they need to put a disclaimer on the boards... "Smells GREAT, Tastes BAD!"
SMASH 10-21-2007, 03:01 PM I was searching for info on finishes and found this thread.
You're very talented. This looks like a fantastic, unique, and sellable design to me.
The idea of lights in the holes is a good one. I know you were joking, and I think it's gimmicky in the same way as LED in fingerboards (I guess that fad is already over?) but if you plan to sell basses at some point it'd attract people to your site. Maybe you could just Photoshop lights in, in that case.
I like the burst.
Keep up the good work.
Wilser, I like what you're doing too.
Nomad98 10-24-2007, 11:04 AM Well... There may be nay sayers that say "Nay!" and yay sayers that say "Yay!" and probably a lot of people that don't really care... but here it is with a burst.
I have the back of the neck to spray with black dye and then I can seal the whole bass with some clear nitro!
The honey yellow was put on diluted with water to soak into the grain and then the red, and finished with black on the sides and back!
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15a.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15b.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15c.jpg
waseok 10-24-2007, 01:04 PM wooooooooooow!!! This becomes my favorite bass on luthiers corner (after wilsers 5 string with wenge inlay)
O_O !!
Fantastic work, man im so happy for you that it worked that good! :D
wilser 10-24-2007, 01:06 PM looks GREAT ...but why not make the burst edges darker? I think it would make a great bass even better!
Nomad98 10-24-2007, 01:18 PM wooooooooooow!!! This becomes my favorite bass on luthiers corner (after wilsers 5 string with wenge inlay)
O_O !!
Fantastic work, man im so happy for you that it worked that good! :D
Thanks... Wilsers 5er with wenge is Soooooo Cooooooool, isn't it!
Hey Waseok, weren't you a "Nay Sayer?" ;)
(I'm not keeping score.)
Nomad98 10-24-2007, 01:27 PM looks GREAT ...but why not make the burst edges darker? I think it would make a great bass even better!
Thanks, I think you are right!
It is one of those commitment issues... I had so much dye mixed and so much space to cover, I didn't want to run out before I hit all I needed too. I figure I can go back in and tweek the burst. I just wasn't sure how it was looking while I was spraying and I didn't want to commit to too much black. You know, it's like at that point you really can't screw up so error on the caution side (I have gotten conservative in my old age).
The colors are really much more saturated than the picts let you see. I used a flash that washed all the color out.
waseok 10-24-2007, 02:11 PM Hey Waseok, weren't you a "Nay Sayer?" ;)
(I'm not keeping score.)
What are you talking about? (makes a innocent face)
Ok ok i was just wrong, its just photoshop burst wasnt that cool =)
Good work, I especially like the proportions of the body.
Fishbrain 10-25-2007, 03:44 AM i like it a lot. I unfortunately, was a nay-sayer too
Billy Low 10-25-2007, 10:27 AM Yippeee for the burst!
Nomad98 10-25-2007, 12:10 PM AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!
A wise man once said (I think it was Mark Twain) "Leave well enough alone!"
I tryed to bring the black out over the top and my gun spit! THAT SUCK'S!!! So I had to bring the black out even more. I really don't like it but I will sit on it for the day and contemplate... Should I sand it back and redo or just finish it the way it is???
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15d2.jpg
rbrown13 10-25-2007, 12:22 PM I'd say hit it with a coat of clear to see more what it will look like in finished form. I think it looks pretty good, but it's hard to tell from a photo.
Nomad98 10-25-2007, 12:33 PM Thats a good idea!
It's one of those things where I had it visualized that it would be a certain way and now it is not that way? It could be great but it is not what I expected it to be (Yes, the lesson of life comes into play).
Then again... could be NOT great!
I will shoot some clear and if I don't like it... sand it back. It could be really cool sanded back and resprayed.
Hmmmmm?
Mark Wilson 10-25-2007, 01:10 PM If you don't like it like that, I'll take it!!!
FretFree 10-25-2007, 01:13 PM Beauty... even if you don't care for the change in the burst.
Personally, I'm glad you ditched the Piezo bridge. I so much prefer adjustable bridges. Just my opinion, really.
I love that the fretlines have differing colors, too.
When do you start taking orders?
waseok 10-25-2007, 03:39 PM Damn it looks sooooo coool, i wouldnt sand the finish..it really looks very nice with the fretboard wood color :) Amber finish right?
I think you should make another one, with the honey burst :P
They both look very hot...:)
:) cheers
Nomad98 10-25-2007, 03:48 PM Ya, I am warming up to todays spray job...
Hopefully tonight I can spray some clear on it but it is getting cold around here. Can you spray Nitro when it's 60-65 degrees out?
Musiclogic 10-25-2007, 11:11 PM LMAo....yes you can spray Nitro in 60 degree weather, even 50 degrees. Most Nitros will adhere down to 45 degrees, but the drying times are based on 65 to 75 degrees. Remember for every 5 degrees below 65 add about 10 minutes to flash time. If possible, shoot, and then move to a warmer room to aide in curing.
Nomad98 10-26-2007, 07:04 AM Thanks Musiclogic, "Your calculations are correct sir!" Seems that it took about half an hour before it wasn't tacky.
I think I will keep the spray as it is, here is a pic with a very light coat of nitro... I think the darker tone of the body will really make the fingerboard pop. The board will have CA on it so it will also darken the color of the board and pop out the figure.
I was also having issues with the black pickup smack in the middle, like it needed to have a wooden cover to blend into the body... I don't feel that way now.
Anyway, thanks for looking and for all the comments (nay and yay!).
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15d3.jpg
Geezerman 10-26-2007, 07:26 AM Looking really nice
MonetBass 10-26-2007, 08:24 AM I know that's not the burst you originally wanted, but it looks really REALLY good. Can't wait to see it with the fingerboard finished.
Jimbow 10-26-2007, 08:42 AM I like the darker burst alot better actually.
Keep it up.
bassedsouth 10-26-2007, 08:57 AM the dark burst does look way better IMO / it gives the bass a more 'serious attitude' .
a lovely design !!
Musiclogic 10-26-2007, 10:06 AM Glad it worked out for you, and I might say, that is going to look Awsome, and unlike any common burst which makes it even better. Looks like a combination between a cherry and tobbacco.....sweet.
I have been spraying Nitro for over 20 years, and sometimes you find yourself in cooler than average weather, so I have sprayed as cool as 50 degrees, and as I said, most will remain decently viscous down to 45.
Thanks Musiclogic, "Your calculations are correct sir!" Seems that it took about half an hour before it wasn't tacky.
I think I will keep the spray as it is, here is a pic with a very light coat of nitro... I think the darker tone of the body will really make the fingerboard pop. The board will have CA on it so it will also darken the color of the board and pop out the figure.
I was also having issues with the black pickup smack in the middle, like it needed to have a wooden cover to blend into the body... I don't feel that way now.
Anyway, thanks for looking and for all the comments (nay and yay!).
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-15d3.jpg
DanielM 10-26-2007, 11:11 AM I admit I was nay-sayer at first, but this isn't at all bad. in fact it's looks pretty good. can't wait to see it with the finished board.
wilser 10-26-2007, 12:06 PM now, THAT's what I'm talking about! :eek:
SDB Guitars 10-27-2007, 06:54 PM That is pretty slick looking... I like it with the darker tone, looks smokey, aged a bit... and less like a factory finish and more like a custom.
Truly a beautiful instrument all around.
Billy Low 10-27-2007, 10:18 PM Me likes!
Nomad98 10-31-2007, 06:44 AM I have a bunch of coats of nitro on this... I didn't think the nitro would disolve the dye but it does (If I spray a little too much the dye lifts and will drip with the lacquer). I thankfully noticed this and have been on top of the whole issue.
My question, can I put poly over the nitro? My first bass was just poly and it never lifted the dye like the nitro. Not even sure if I would go this route but I am just wondering. If anyone knows it would be great to hear from someone who has done this!
A couple more picts (I am hopeing the next post has the bass strung and finished!).
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16a.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16b.jpg
DanielM 10-31-2007, 09:14 AM this bass is really nice. the body looks great, and the burst does set it apart. as for the finisihing question I have no idea. I suppose you could shoot Poly over NItro as long as the nitro is fully cured. but don't take my word on that I'd wait for someone more knowledgeable to chime in.
Nomad98 11-20-2007, 11:58 AM Finally here are picts of the finished bass (post #86... I overwrote some files :confused:).
Had a lot of issues trying to finish this one. something called witness lines and when I put CA on the fingerboard I pulled some finish off the neck when I removed the tape (D'OH!). All things that you read about but think will never happen to me! I can't say that anymore.
Chalk it up as, a test of patients, that which does not kill us makes us stronger, or plain old stupidity! Hmmmm... I'll let you be the judge.
Anyway, the bass plays really well and that is my goal so far. I have been having issues with strings not being machined properly (the round wounds vary in thickness which makes them buzz on the fretless board, I have been getting around this with half rounds!?)
Any who... this build is done! Thanks to all those that had something to say or took the time to have a look!
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16a.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16b.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16c.jpg
http://www.syntheticon.com/bass_build_2/Picture-16d.jpg
Greenman 11-20-2007, 03:38 PM Nice detail sinking the tuners in the headstock. It adds that extra reflective line.
Mr.Chucklebunny 11-20-2007, 04:44 PM Jinkies! Nice work, man. I completely dig the way that burst turned out. And as a longtime hater of singlecuts, I must say that your design really makes it work. Many kudos.
gabethedestroyr 11-20-2007, 05:18 PM Looks great! How visible are the markers from up close? I can only see the main ones well in the finished pics.
Nomad98 11-20-2007, 06:31 PM Looks great! How visible are the markers from up close? I can only see the main ones well in the finished pics.
They are very hard to see... I will not do them the same way next time. If I have two colors for fret-lines I will make sure they contrast with the fingerboard enough to be seen, or I will leave them off.
allenhumble 11-21-2007, 08:26 AM Job well done. I am very impressed.
bradjonesbass 11-21-2007, 08:40 AM I can't believe that's only your second build. Imagine how great your basses will be after you've got 40-50 under your belt. That is stunning. How's it play and sound?
DanielM 11-21-2007, 10:42 AM Wow! it really finished up nicely. looks fantastic! nothing else really I can say that others haven't already said.
Nomad98 11-21-2007, 09:44 PM I can't believe that's only your second build. Imagine how great your basses will be after you've got 40-50 under your belt. That is stunning. How's it play and sound?
It plays really well... I put CA on the fingerboard and like that feel! The action is low and smooth with half rounds on it! As for the sound, I wired a pickup that doesn't have a wide enough magnetic range to pick up the B (cheap pickup). This weekend I will be putting in an EMG DC-45. I think it will sound good. There is a Bart on the bay that I my bid on but that remains to be seen.
wilser 11-21-2007, 09:46 PM Nomad98, you were right! the burst looks amazing! I would love to hear a clip of this sexy beast.
Nomad98 11-21-2007, 09:55 PM Nomad98, you were right! the burst looks amazing! I would love to hear a clip of this sexy beast.
Hey, thanks Wilser! I will post a clip when I get the DC-45 wired in... I can hardly wait, but I'm away until the weekend, have to do some damage to the turkey population.
Fishbrain 11-22-2007, 03:51 AM niiiiiiice
waseok 11-22-2007, 09:53 AM the headstock is so great, but try to make it angled next time, it looks kinda little and fat lol :) awsome
eleonn 11-22-2007, 01:52 PM the headstock is so great, but try to make it angled next time, it looks kinda little and fat lol :) awsome
+1
It looks nice as it is write now but angled it would be much better!!!
wilser 11-22-2007, 02:05 PM the headstock is so great, but try to make it angled next time, it looks kinda little and fat lol :) awsome
I don't know ...I kinda like it like that! reminds me of linc luthier and I always liked his headstocks.
Nomad98 11-22-2007, 10:15 PM Angled as in scarf joint? Give me more to go on...
eleonn 11-23-2007, 06:21 AM Yep.
Nomad98 11-23-2007, 07:37 AM Yes, I'm feeling the urge to tackle that (scarf joint)... I will most likely be doing that on the next bass.
JonathanD 12-23-2007, 10:07 AM For some reasons, I feel like it must have been made in a shire :)
Absolutely beautiful.
Jonathan
Nomad98 12-25-2007, 07:21 AM For some reasons, I feel like it must have been made in a shire :)
AHHHHRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG...... Not the Shire :hmm:
allenhumble 12-25-2007, 10:35 AM Fro-to?:hiding:
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