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Smallmouth_Bass 04-23-2007, 10:29 AM I was talking to my wife mentioning a nice Sadowsky I saw in the TB classifieds.
So, she asks me: "Why do you need a Sadowsky?"
My answer: "Because everyone else on TB has one!" :D
She wasn't quite convinced. :bawl:
So, how do you justify your Sads or any other higher end basses to your significant other?
Tony G 04-23-2007, 10:32 AM Hmmm....I don't think I can justify any of the high end purchases I've made. Sometimes I go overboard when I get a bit enthusiastic about a hobby, and bass is no exception. I've got some nice gear that needs paying off, but when I do, I will have my MTD 635 forever, and that is a nice feeling. Even though I currently love Epifani gear, amps kind of come and go for me. I don't get nearly as attached to amps and cabs as I do my basses.
If anything, I tell my wife it is an "investment" :D
Tony G 04-23-2007, 10:35 AM Also, just looking at your profile, you own a lot of very nice mid to high priced basses, where as I only one three basses, one of them being high end. If you were to sell off some gear that doesn't get used much, you could have yourself a nice Sadowsky easily.
Smallmouth_Bass 04-23-2007, 10:41 AM Yeah, I can't really justify it and never really do anymore. My justification now is I want it and it makes me happy. My problem is that I rarely unload equipment, I just accumulate it! In fact, I have no reason to get a new bass because I am completely satisfied with what I have, but you know how GAS works...
Barisaxman 04-23-2007, 10:42 AM Easy answer...you don't NEED one, you WANT one ;). I've played a couple high end bassed, but they just don't seem to be worth the extra money to me. I gig my basses, in bars, clubs, etc. They will get worn over time, and carrying around a $2000 bass doesn't make sense in my situation. If it works for you....buy it....toys are good. Just make sure you take the wife out and spoil her a little and she won't care so much.
rushfan73 04-23-2007, 10:47 AM If that new shiny Sadowsky box arrived at the same time a whole bunch of shoe boxes arrived for the mrs, she might not notice the bass!
bassplaynmatt 04-23-2007, 10:52 AM Make enough dough playing the basses you have now to pay for the Sadowsky. Even if its just one gig every two months eventually you'll make at least enough to grab a used one:) It's a little different for me I really don't have to justify the gear to my wife since we are both professional musicians. In fact, my basses are a tax write off:smug:
davidmurphy 04-23-2007, 10:57 AM Greed, delicious, greed.
MAJOR METAL 04-23-2007, 11:01 AM Well I have no other half to account to but I sell it to myself with the realization they help me rock that much better ! ;) :bassist:
dabassr 04-23-2007, 11:06 AM Rushfan73 has it right! $300 shoes, $1200 handbags, $30,000 pick-up trucks, $2,000 bass. If it's about what you need, well, I guess I could still be playing the old '76 FJ I started on, but I really enjoy my Sadowsky's. I appreciate them every time I hook them up. Would the old FJ pay the bills, perhaps, but if you appreciate the quality of a well made instrument you owe it to yourself to at least try a Sadowsky.
Smallmouth_Bass 04-23-2007, 11:40 AM My wife is not a shoes and handbag type of person! :eek:
Actually, she's been very good about my bass obsessions. She never gives me a hard time about it. If I bought another bass, I think she'd be surprised, but she'd be okay with it if it made me happy.
I don't have a sadowsky, but I have a Bongo. And it was worth every penny. It sounds so damn good. Best darned guitar I ever owned.
you often DO get what you paid for.
Seattle_BassMan 04-23-2007, 09:28 PM I never knew exactly why I had to have a Sadowsky, until I finally got one. Now, if it were stolen or damaged I would not hesitate to replace it the next day. I've also done everything in my power to make my MIA Jazz as close to a Sadowsky as possible.
Luckily my wife is really good about these purchases because they're really tools of the trade. Sure, I could use something cheaper, but that Sadowsky tone can give you the edge sometimes and I know it's gonna sound good every night. When you have random sound guys coming up after the show and giving you unsolicited compliments on the sound of the bass that makes it all worth while.
The flip side is that I can't make any comments about how much my wife's shoes, purses, clothes, jewelry or hair care cost. And I'm quite sure they all add up to a lot more than my one Sadowsky ;-)
AxtoOx 04-23-2007, 11:02 PM Well, I'm single and do as I please.
Why did I get a Sadowsky? I've played a lot of Fender Jazz basses and they never quite did it for me. Walked in w/ money in hand and walked out without one. I'm narrowing down now after owning many basses. Decided to definitly keep the MTD, keep a Warwick around, but I needed something to fill that Jazz niche. The Sadowsky did it for me in spades.
The short of it is, I never found a Jazz I liked till I got a Sadowsky. Gas pains relieved, unless I get another MTD or Sadowsky modern 24.:D
11Bravo 04-23-2007, 11:05 PM Why did I get one?
cause I wanted to try one and now............
BEST BASS I HAVE OWNED/PLAYED..EVER
I even hated jazz basses till this one.
I say pick one up!
Munjibunga 04-23-2007, 11:10 PM Just tell her Munjibunga will lose all respect for you if you don't buy this one:
http://www.sadowsky.com/stock/stock_images/nyc/full/4782_full.jpg
It's on special sale ($350 off), and you'd be a fool to pass on it.
AxtoOx 04-23-2007, 11:24 PM Just tell her Munjibunga will lose all respect for you if you don't buy this one:
http://www.sadowsky.com/stock/stock_images/nyc/full/4782_full.jpg
It's on special sale ($350 off), and you'd be a fool to pass on it.The vintage burst one just like it has me checking my finances, doesn't look good, but I'm still working on it.
Smallmouth_Bass 04-23-2007, 11:53 PM I'm generally not a fan of spalted tops.
Munjibunga 04-24-2007, 12:08 AM I'm generally not a fan of spalted tops.
Bizarre.
Todd Stanley 04-24-2007, 12:15 AM You need to do it like asking for a raise at work. You want it, you might deserve it, but before you get it, you have to fight tooth and nail for it and tell them why you deserve it. If you don't believe yourself that you deserve it, it wont work. Arguments such as....
My gigs bring in just enough money to justify a purchase like this once or twice a year, and I haven't bought any gear in two.
We spent _____ on your hobby recently (make sure you say WE, and not YOU, you don't want to make it into a "you did so I can" thing, so much as "we did that as a team, let's do this as well")
My current gear isn't suitable for what I need right now. (Maybe it's not high enough quality, maybe it doesn't suit the band or style you are playing now, maybe you have to lie about this one haha)
Steve 04-29-2007, 12:22 PM Under ideal conditions, Sads sound amazing but not necessarily what I would call a marquis tone. Thre are other basses that will do better.
There are other reasons like support and flawless construction but you can find that elsewhere as well.
But, under less than ideal conditions and downright crummy conditions where the room sucks, the PA sucks, the sound guy sucks, a Sadowsky will keep going when all the rest are long since mud, woof and boom.
Marquis cut and clarity. THAT is why you pay what you pay.
IMO.
MazeMouse 04-29-2007, 02:29 PM I worked for it, I have the money for it, it's my hobby, it's what makes me happy. That should be reason enough for my girlfriend.
Otherwise, next time start complaining if she buy's anything you view as useless and be SURE to bring this up as a leverage "if YOU buy that <insert useless thing> I can have my sadowsky"
McCalister999 04-29-2007, 02:37 PM my SO actually prefers that I get higher-end stuff rather than a bunch of cheaper basses. (lucky me!) :)
bikeplate 04-29-2007, 03:08 PM HI
Simply put, best tool for the job
Rob
s1l3nc3r 04-29-2007, 07:04 PM If that new shiny Sadowsky box arrived at the same time a whole bunch of shoe boxes arrived for the mrs, she might not notice the bass!nice one :p :D ;) :) :smug: :bassist: also i cant really answer im not married :ninja: :hiding:
jazzbo58 04-29-2007, 10:37 PM Play one and you'll know why you need it. My Wife is very cool when it comes to my equipment. I save up my overtime money to feed my disease. So nothing is taken away from the house money.
Cheers,
Jim
Munjibunga 04-30-2007, 12:06 AM Marquis cut and clarity. THAT is why you pay what you pay.
IMO.
http://www.thomasmichaels.com/ThomasMichaels/images/imagediamarquis.gif
SundanceChile 04-30-2007, 12:16 AM I'm generally not a fan of spalted tops.
Bizarre.
+1.
slugworth 04-30-2007, 01:50 AM I've done over 2500 paid gigs without a Sadowsky. The only bass you need is the one that gets the job done.
Slug
Blaspheming Talkbass Bastard.
Bass Viking 05-01-2007, 07:15 PM Have you played a Sadowsky? Are there any stores in Montreal that carry them?
Tell your wife they're comfortable and light and will help prevent back problems down the road. :)
SteveC 05-01-2007, 08:45 PM I don't. My cheap, discontinued Yamaha BB605 with Bartolini pups and preamp works just fine. I can't really justify an expensive bass to myself any more so I don't need to do it for my wife.
Now, preamps, DI's etc., that's a different story...
SundanceChile 05-01-2007, 09:37 PM I've done over 2500 paid gigs without a Sadowsky. The only bass you need is the one that gets the job done.
That's going in my profile. I totally agree, endorse, and am about ready to marry this statement. If you need/want a Sadowsky for the gig you do, awesome! If you don't, that's cool too. I have yet to play one, but from what I've heard of the Sadowsky sound on recordings/youtube/sound clips, they're not bag of tea.
Sugarfuzz 05-02-2007, 10:49 AM I wish there was a place near me that sold them. I want to play a Sadowsky so bad.
Maybe I could make it to the next GTG.....hmmmm
Eilif 05-02-2007, 10:52 AM I couldn't justify a Sadowsky to my wife, (we are not in that financial bracket yet) but...
When I started playing gospel music, she baught me a 55-01 for Christmas/Anniversary.
She has determined that sometime in the future, she wants to buy me a Skyline Hollowbody. (And I have determined that I will let her.)
Two weeks ago I was playing an Ibanez Artcore AGB140. She gasps at how beautiful it was, takes out her phone to check our bank account to see if the $ is there. It isn't, but a week later our paychecks clear, and you can guess what I baught!
pointbass 05-02-2007, 11:16 AM I don't buy any bass gear that can't be funded by my musical endeavors. If the music can't pay for it, I don't buy it.
Luckily, I gig a lot, do some buy/sell wheeling & dealing, record periodically .... so money hasn't been an issue for a very long time. And I never put my family finances at risk.
Sadowsky's aren't my thing, but there are plenty of other temptations out there ..... :D
atrapp 07-04-2007, 09:30 AM What a very odd place to find this thread... I guess this is where threads that question the cherished Sadowsky go to die…
To answer the OP. You don't, I bought one due to the overwhelming TB hysteria about Sadowsky's, only to find it the single biggest let down in any bass I have ever purchased. Nope there was nothing wrong with my Sadowsky, but it is just an average bass with average parts that has been marketed very well - Kudos to Sadowsky for that.
Look here are the results, why it is simply laughable.
Simply put, best tool for the job
needmoney 07-04-2007, 09:44 AM So, she asks me: "Why do you need a Sadowsky?"
My answer: "Because everyone else on TB has one!" :D
She wasn't quite convinced. :bawl:
Sounds like a smart lass to me ;)
Pilgrim 07-14-2007, 11:38 AM The answer is - you don't need one. You may WANT one, but if you're not making your living with the instrument you don't need one - and maybe not then. Plenty of pro musicians make a living without one.
OTOH, think about your car - a much more expensive purchase. NO ONE drives the car they "need". If they did, we'd mostly be driving Checkers or Minivans, with a very, very, few pickups mixed in. (90% of pickups are driven by people who have no business driving one, because they never use it to haul things.)
People drive the car they "want". They choose color, style, features, etc. that have no relation to their actual base needs. And then they spend many thousands of dollars extra to buy that car. SUV instead of minivan, sports car instead of sedan, pickup instead of passenger car.
So be honest - you don't need it, you want it. And if you have the money for it without going into debt, it becomes a purchase of choice, not need, just like many other things you buy every month.
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