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lefty007 05-04-2007, 01:53 PM Does anynody here play regular bass guitar sitting down when playing live, at clubs or bars, or even outdoor stages?
I'm always fighting with a bass' weight and always trying to find a light and ergonomic bass, but it never occurred to me that I can play Anthony-Jackson style: sitting down.
I play in a 10-piece latin funk band, which is all groove/dance oriented, but I always stand back by the drummer, just laying it down. I'm not jumping around on stage or anything. I do take the sporadic solo, but I'm not suspended on air like Michael Anthony, or spitting fire like Gene Simmons.
I'm just wondering if I would get people asking what's wrong with me . . . .
It just seems like such a good idea to concentrate in my playing instead of my sore feet or shoulders/back.
I'm just getting older and fat. :(
ntimkovich 05-04-2007, 02:08 PM i sit down for coffee shop gigs. i wouldn't sweat it if you need to rest your haunches, especially if there are 9 other people on stage!
nick
Gadolinium 05-04-2007, 02:16 PM It would make you look more sophisticated :)
Phalex 05-04-2007, 02:31 PM Only when I play the cardboard box bass.
4lPh4n0m3g4 05-04-2007, 03:51 PM I'm just wondering if I would get people asking what's wrong with me . . . .
Don't worry about it, your the bass player; they don't know your there anyway. :D
Seriously, get yourself a comfy stool and concentrate on your playing. IMO, if your not required to exhibit major stage presence then there really isn't any reason why you couldnt choose to sit.
When I used to play out I would alternate between sitting and standing depending on the song.
Jeff Moote 05-04-2007, 04:12 PM hmm, for the style you describe I'd be surprised if the bassist wasn't sitting! I sit all the time for my big band - usually a medium height stool is my preference.
Rattman 05-04-2007, 04:20 PM Don't worry about it, your the bass player; they don't know your there anyway. :D
Seriously, get yourself a comfy stool and concentrate on your playing. IMO, if your not required to exhibit major stage presence then there really isn't any reason why you couldnt choose to sit.
When I used to play out I would alternate between sitting and standing depending on the song.
I've been sitting while playing for several years now. Not to be kool but due to chronic pain. No one has complained about it yet. I sit as a bassist and lead guitarist both.
Foamy 05-04-2007, 04:23 PM I will sit at coffee house gigs for the smoother or jazzier stuff, but stand for the rocking parts of the sets. I sit at rehearsal because I am still fighting plantar fasciitis, but for a few outdoor shows coming up, I'll stand. Another TBer recommended foam anti-fatigue mats, so I have set of those I'll be using.
iamlowsound 05-05-2007, 08:22 PM I sit when I play at church, I am right at the back by the drummer. I use a piano seat and I cross my legs to get my bass into the right spot. When I jam I usually sit as well, I sit on my amp then and again cross my legs to get the bass to the right height.
lowsound
62Walnut 05-06-2007, 07:48 AM Any time I've ever seen pics of James Jamerson, he was sitting. Albeit on a high stool and one foot on the ground, but it offers more support. And it doesn't come much cooler than Jamerson.
Also considering the fact that it's a 12 piece Latin band you're in, you're not going to be noticed as much.
Walnut
Depth_Charge 05-06-2007, 08:48 AM I play in a Top40 covers band and have future goals to hopefully realise.
I always bring a chair or two to gigs. Chuck em on top of my cab, my bag'o'stuff on top again, wheel to stage. :)
I usually choose appropriate moments, such as ballads or slower songs, but if I feel like sitting, I do.
As previously mentioned, well known players do too.
rhythmchanges 05-07-2007, 10:04 AM I play in a duo and the guitar player/singer recently decided he'd rather sit. I did one gig standing with him sitting and felt like a tool, so I had to acquiesce. It's really a different beast when sitting down. The one thing I like about it is that the bass sits naturally high, which I prefer, in this sad world in which everyone on the pop scene wears their bass at the knees...lol.
Smallmouth_Bass 05-07-2007, 10:10 AM When I play live I stand, but I always sit on a stool during jams.
Pilgrim 05-07-2007, 10:44 AM I have a tall stool with padded seat; it's just the right height to park about half my butt on and keep one foot on the floor. Not bad when the dogs are barking. I don't use it often, but I sure will when it's called for.
Joe P 05-07-2007, 12:44 PM My problem with sitting is that the the bass seems neck-heavy - I'm always holding the neck up with my thumb then!
Sitting also puts the frets in a different spot, with everything comparably 'shifted to the right'. Also - even disregarding the neck-heaviness, when I'm stting, I can't angle the neck UP as far as I like ('up' like 'headstock pointing up').
I'm thinking of trying one of those Barkers or something - zero weight on my shoulder (half the reason it's tiring to stand, right?), and a nice, vertical fretboard!
Joe
Bean Bunny 05-10-2007, 10:07 AM I sit when I play (I play in a jazz band, if that makes a difference to you). My bass' neck is angled up ever so slightly when I play, too.
But I lean over a bit, put my hair in my eyes, and pretend I look dangerous.
lowerclef 05-10-2007, 12:39 PM Sitting rules! I do stand and move around a lot for some gigs, but always sit for the rest, and for rehearsals and practicing. Don't worry about the presence - you can still be sophisticated and animated sitting down!
A swivel bar stool is perfect - you're not QUITE sitting all the way down, but it looks cool, and you'll be more comfortable for sure!
DocBop 05-10-2007, 01:29 PM I perfer to sit, I just tell 'em I'm into Anthony Jackson. Some groups don't like it, but can usually compromise with a bar stool. If back is a issue I've seen a harness like strap this guy uses that helps him. It looks kinda like a vest, but its straps and it connects to the back of his bass. I have no idea where he got it.
Back in the 70's I ran into a bass player with back problems and had this thing that looked like a belt, and connected to the back of his Fender. He claimed Fender made it. But that was a long time ago.
Johnny Crab 05-10-2007, 06:25 PM My problem with sitting is that the the bass seems neck-heavy - I'm always holding the neck up with my thumb then!Must be an un-fixed T-Bird.
Sitting also puts the frets in a different spot, with everything comparably 'shifted to the right'. Nope, can't be a T-Bird.
In your band, sitting would be acceptable.
Since the band I'm in requires standing, most all of my basses are heavy, and I'm not growing younger...a 4-1/2" strap helped a lot. If it was worse, a lightweight(yes, they are) 80's Steinberger with the pivot could be used.
For now I only sit to work on tunes. For practicing(home or at work at lunch) "on-the-list" material, I stand up unless I'm really tired.
BillMason 05-10-2007, 06:55 PM I perfer to sit, I just tell 'em I'm into Anthony Jackson. Some groups don't like it, but can usually compromise with a bar stool. If back is a issue I've seen a harness like strap this guy uses that helps him. It looks kinda like a vest, but its straps and it connects to the back of his bass. I have no idea where he got it.
Back in the 70's I ran into a bass player with back problems and had this thing that looked like a belt, and connected to the back of his Fender. He claimed Fender made it. But that was a long time ago.
I saw a guy once playing for the Judds when they opened for Neil Young back in the 80s, and he had some kind of a stand for his bass that he just walked up to and played. He could also twirl it around on the stand, like a pin wheel. He seemed kinda dorky to be honest, but it was more him than the stand.
I use a Bass Brace belt. After years of pain and shoulder tendonitis I found the belt. It's basically a weightlifter's belt with a Dunlop straplock mounted to a tongue of leather where the buckle would be-this attaches to a recessed Dunlop strap hole on the lower body edge of the instrument. Basically, 90% of the bass weight is borne by the hips. I still wear a regular strap to keep the instrument in position. It does involve this minimal mod to the bass, but it's $%^&*amazing! The balance is always perfect, because you can choose the spot for the straplock by finding with your finger where it balances best. I used to have pain after 20 minutes and had spent tons of cash on the lightest basses I could find. Now I don't care it the axe weighs 12 lbs :-))))) The Bass Brace is no longer in production, but you can easily make one with a weightlifter's belt, a piece of leather and a Dunlop straplock.
higgi 05-16-2007, 03:15 PM oh pictures of the bass belt please! That's what I need I think.
I bought one of those slider straps, but it moves the bass to an uncomfortable position. Then I put my head through the straps that join together at the strap button. From the front it looks like a 2" thick saxophone strap, with a double strap hanging from the back. Sure does center the weight up, but I look very dorky and have not tried it on stage. I play with the bass on my right hip in a vertical position, not centered as is normal. I can't play with standard positioning because of loss of motion of my left arm from innumerable breaks and reconstructive surgery.
iamoldschool 05-16-2007, 03:57 PM I've had back surgery, so I know your pain brother! I use a padded bar stool that's perfect for leaning my butt on with one foot on the floor. I still get off the stool and move around a little when my butt goes to sleep (+1 for us old guys). Also, I found a great strap at GC. It's a Franklin strap, 3" wide and glove-soft leather. It does not move around, i.e. slide on your shoulder, so the bass stays where you put it. Zero neck dive, even on my Jazz V.
Andy V. 05-16-2007, 04:34 PM The main problem for me is the left shoulder pain.
I play with my bass in a confortable position (stingray 5, the upper horn touches my chest), but after every long set my left shoulder hurts...
I will sit at coffee house gigs for the smoother or jazzier stuff, but stand for the rocking parts of the sets. I sit at rehearsal because I am still fighting plantar fasciitis, but for a few outdoor shows coming up, I'll stand. Another TBer recommended foam anti-fatigue mats, so I have set of those I'll be using.
Does it work with shoes on?
higgi 05-18-2007, 11:52 AM My problem is that I tilt my shoulders after playing for a while. Then I get pains from bad playing posture. I don't have much problem with a point load on the shoulder, it's the curve in my lower back from offsetting the bass weight.
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