Hi guys just wanted to know if any of you have a favorite rythym section bass & drum duo. Reason being I was listening to Livin Color's Vivid and Muzz Skillings and William Calhoun are locked in at the hip they are one of the tightest units ever, does anybody know what Muzz is doing now?

A very partial list of favorites-

Jamerson & Benny Benjamin
Rocco Prestia & David Garibaldi
Jaco & Peter Erskine
Bootsy & Clyde Stubblefield
George Porter & Zigaboo Modeliste
Paul Jackson & Mike Clark(super funky!)
Will Lee & Steve Gadd
Chuck Rainey & Jeff Porcaro

Gary Willis & Dennis Chambers
Anthony Jackson & Dennis Chambers
Alain Caron & ...yep, Dennis Chambers

...some "Latin" guys
Andy Gonzalez & Steve Berrios
Andy Gonzalez & Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez
Lincoln Goines & Robbie Ammeen
Eddie Gomez & Steve Gadd

...couple fill in the "blanks"-
____________ & Tony Williams
____________ & Elvin Jones

...some "local" guys-
Oteil Burbridge & Billy Drummond
Keith Horne & Carter Beauford

...couple of my very current favorites-
Dave Holland & Billy Kilson
William Parker & Hamid Drake

Well, I don't have as impressive a list as JimK, but here goes:
Tony Levin and Bill Bruford
Tony Franklin and Chris Slade
Bill Church (?) and Denny Carmassi
the guys from Powerman 5000 (hey, any bass player who used to play funk drums is ok with me)
John Paul Jones and John Bonham
Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker
Jack Bruce and Tony Williams
Jack Bruce and Jim Marshall....you get the idea!
Roger Glover and Ian Paice

.......for now

MARCUS MILLER& OMAR HAKIM

.....ill be back with more....

Gweimer-
Didn't Bill Church & Denny Carmassi play in Ronnie Montrose's first band(Montrose)? Wasn't Sammy Hagar the vocalist in that band, too?


...one more-
Robbie Shakespeare & Sly Dunbar

Give that man (JimK) a kewpie doll!

>Jamerson & Benny Benjamin
Rocco Prestia & David Garibaldi
Jaco & Peter Erskine
Bootsy & Clyde Stubblefield

Ditto for me JimK. You took the words right out of my mouth. I will add ~

Jerry Jemmott and Bernard Purdie
Jack Bruce and anybody

I think best ROCK rhytm section is (in no order):John Paul Jones-John Bonham,John Deacon-Roger Taylor,John Entwistle-Keith Moon.Bye!

Seems like we did this topic just about a month ago, but what the heck. http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/smile.gif

Paul Chambers, Philly Jo Jones, Red Garland (jazz rythym sections often include the pianist)
Paul Chambers, Jimmy Cobb, Bill Evans
Ray Brown, Ed Thigpen, Oscar Peterson
Victor Gaskin, Roy McCurdy, Joe Zawinul
Eugene Wright, Joe Morello
John Patitucci, Dave Weckel
Ron Carter, Tony Williams
Roscoe Beck, Tom Brechtlein
Tommy Shannon, Chris "Whipper" Layton
Duck Dunn, Al Jackson Jr.

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Ciao
Mike

p-nut is one of my favorites- but put him together with chad sexton and you have modern rock's best rhythm section, for my money.

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we hope you are ok.

Well, they seem all about covered, but here are two I like:

Carol Kaye and Hal Blaine (Beach Boys)
Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce (The Smiths)


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-BW

A few more:

Sting & Stewart Copeland
Sting & Manu Katche
Sting & Vinnie Colaiuta

Say what you will about Sting; the man knows how to pick a drummer.

well i noticed many duo's that i haven't even heard of. mine would be
Tom Hamilton & Joey Kramer
Jason Newsted & Lars Ulrich
sorry, i can't think of any more.

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PHISH: Mike Gordan, Jon Fishman, Paige McConelly, and Tre Anastasio.

Listen to the jam on any recording from any album live or studio and you'll see how tight they are. Anyone could be playing lead or ryhthm.

Also; Stephan Lessard and Carter Beuford

dudes those are some lame responses, sorry, anyway i gotta tell you, if you want to hear a real rythm section, you gotta check out the minutemn, george hurley (drums) and mike watt (bass) are freakin amazing, they outdo anybody on any day, check out the minutemens double nickels on the dime to hear some sweet drum and bass combos, i also gotta credit husker du, the meat puppets (those kirkwoods are amazing) also take a check at the bad brains, hey, did everybody forget about pushmonkey, though relatively new they kick some real butt

...yeah, you know what-
I'd like to recant my choices; they are pretty lame.

Nathan East and Harvey Mason?

>...yeah, you know what-
I'd like to recant my choices; they are pretty lame.

Jim, me too.

>And if anyone mentions that lame a$$ Jamerson again... I'll scream

ditto.

And if anybody brings up that Jaco/Erskin combination I think I'll puke.

RAOGLMAO!!

You two are too much.

Lame.

And if anyone mentions that lame a$$ Jamerson again... I'll scream http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Munjibunga:
Nathan East and Harvey Mason?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about Paul Jackson and Harvey Mason
Louis Johnson and Harvey Mason
Will Lee and Harvey Mason
Anthony Jackson and Harvey Mason
Anthony Jackson and Steve Gadd
Anthony Jackson and Steve Ferrone
Anthony Jackson and Dave Weckl

BTW can you imagine being a teenager and playing with Dave Garibaldi or Clyde Stubblefield?

not hearing of the minutemen is only showing me your lack of interest in listening to other bands besides the garbage im sure youve been listening to for, what, 15, 20 years, take your oldie garbage somewhere else, you should buy all the minutemen cds you can, theyre the only band with a real rythym section. i mentioned them because no one else did, im tired of seeing 30 or 40 people post the same damn names up and say how great the same people are over and over and at the same time never recognize people that played in the late 70s early 80s underground punk, yes punk, before it got all stale and messed up, scene. thats real music, not doing it for money or some other commercial reason.

Sly & Robbie
Flabba Holt & Style Scott (Roots Radics)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimK:
...yeah, you know what-
I'd like to recant my choices; they are pretty lame.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah Jim I was gettin' ready to flame you for those lame choices but the Qintar beat me to it. http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/wink.gif Now that I think of it, my choices are really lame, just a bunch of lame jazzers and blues men. I'm gonna run out and buy every "minutemn" [sic] CD I can find so I can hear what a real rythym section sounds like. I must be especially lame because I've never even heard of the "minutemn".

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Ciao
Mike

I was worried about that (East/Mason, lame). However, I still think East is a pretty good bass player.

Qintar, calm down there man.. telling people to "take their oldie garbage somewhere else" isn't going to win you any converts.
That said, Watt and Hurley were as dynamic as ANY jazz rhythm section. If, like MM back there, you've never listened to the Minutemen, you should.. "Double Nickels on the Dime" is all you need. Those guys were punk, funk, jazz and rock all rolled into one, and the interplay between the instruments rivals the best jazz combos.. take it from me, I've listened to both sides.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the Qintar:
not hearing of the minutemen is only showing me your lack of interest in listening to other bands besides the garbage im sure youve been listening to for, what, 15, 20 years, take your oldie garbage somewhere else, you should buy all the minutemen cds you can, theyre the only band with a real rythym section. i mentioned them because no one else did, im tired of seeing 30 or 40 people post the same damn names up and say how great the same people are over and over and at the same time never recognize people that played in the late 70s early 80s underground punk, yes punk, before it got all stale and messed up, scene. thats real music, not doing it for money or some other commercial reason.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Being the curious type I have to ask: do you remember the original question?

Hi guys just wanted to know if any of you have a favorite rythym section bass & drum duo

I think the "you" in the post refers to anyone who answers. If someone has a personal favorite why would that put a bug up your a$$? http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Just curious. I wouldn't call your choices lame, they're just your choices. Did we miss something?

BTW the only reason I didn't list any 70's/80's punk rhythm sections was because I hadn't heard any that truly moved me. Go figure http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I also wouldn't call Powerman 5000 a lack of willingness to listen to anything new. Even the guys in Minutemen ( I may have to check them out someday) would list "their favorites" as people they grew up admiring, so lighten up. Chances are, Qintar, when you reach middle-age, you'll be ranting at young whelps like yourself that The Minutemen were far better than the "new junk kids listen to today". No need to get emotional on a personal preference thread.

I has nothing to do with "middle age"
...the thing is-
I wasn't into any(?)of the guys I mentioned back when I was 16. As you continue to play & learn, hopefully, some "growth" will be a by-product. After all, none of us still read Mother Goose, right?
Back then, I loved John Paul Jones...I still do; IMO, he was jamming/improv-ing those lines. Thirty years later, one can still hear JPJ playing with an edge.
I've done a little listening & studying...so as I played & learned, I went back & investigated who the "masters" might be. Take, for example, Jimmy Blanton; damn, he played(albeit briefly)in '39-'41...I ain't that damn old! http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
The point is, & Brad had a nice post about lineage(somewhere),...trace BACK into time to "discover" who influenced the guys you dig TODAY. There's a wealth of education/music along the way. A lotta guys at this site talk about being "in a box"; S***, they're putting themselves in there! http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/wink.gif

Qintar-
If you're into Punk, good...find the "best" & asks yourself what makes that someone the "best". That's cool.
Personally, Punk never floated my boat; rhythmically, it never moved me to search into it. So what! By the same token, I don't really expect you to like all the Free/Avant garde S*** I'm into, either. It's no biggie.

...meanwhile, I think I'm gonna go back & re-read the Mike Watt(cover)of BASS PLAYER mag.
Hasta...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the Qintar:
not hearing of the minutemen is only showing me your lack of interest in listening to other bands besides the garbage im sure youve been listening to for, what, 15, 20 years, take your oldie garbage somewhere else, you should buy all the minutemen cds you can, theyre the only band with a real rythym section. i mentioned them because no one else did, im tired of seeing 30 or 40 people post the same damn names up and say how great the same people are over and over and at the same time never recognize people that played in the late 70s early 80s underground punk, yes punk, before it got all stale and messed up, scene. thats real music, not doing it for money or some other commercial reason.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So the Minutemen are from the late '70's-early '80's? Since this is 2000 doesn't that make them 20 years old. So aren't you listening to oldies? So what's your point?

[This message has been edited by MM (edited July 27, 2000).]

Just some "misplaced anger", MM http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/wink.gif I heard that on the "Bob Newhart Show", an "old" TV show from the 70's http://www.talkbass.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Have fun

Three that come to mind,without thinking too deeply,and in no paticular order."Pops"Popwell and Stix Hooper(Crusaders Images),Chuck Rainey,Steve Gadd and Ralph McDonald(percussion)This"section" was together for Ralph McDonalds solo album.What a show-Richard Tee and the whole "stuff" gang.Pino Paladino and Terry Bozio(live backing Jeff Beck!)

I'd have to go with Tony Levin and Bill Bruford/Jerry Marotta, with King Crimson and Peter Gabriel respectively. TLev is one of the best bass players out there because he can play comparatively simple yet completely non-obvious lines that complement the music perfectly. In the dense mixes that characterized '80s Crimson and pretty much everything Gabriel's ever done, his tone and his style are perfect. Bill Bruford and Jerry Marotta are also the only two drummers I can think of who can get your butt moving in an odd time signature.

...other "odd" drummers that'll move ya-
Tony Williams, Elvin Jones, Vinnie Coliauta, Terry Bozzio, William Kennedy, Billy Kilson, Jo Jo Mayer, Dennis Chambers,...etc

I registered on this forum just to post a reply to this thread.Ain't Mike Watt around 46 yrs. old?Didn't the Sex Pistols try to tour a few years ago?For the money?
Anyway,I'd like to add Kenny Gradney and Ritchie Hayward of Little Feat to the list.And Berry Oakley and Butch Trucks and Jaimo.I'm not talking ancient history,am I?

I opened for Little Feat a couple of years ago. Richie was the coolest guy!! Him and Kenny rocked the place in the pouring rain. Great band and great rhythm section.

Chris A.:rolleyes:

Unfortunately the timeline on this thread is completely skewed.


Man, you shoulda been there, what a time we had:D

What about Victor Bailey & Omar Hakim
or Victor Bailey & Dennis Chambers?

Great Job Guy's! This thread really took off Im glad to see about 98% of us are really open minded about the music we listen to. Theres alot of awesome choices, some I have heard of others I have not but Im not going to bash anyones choices, if anything Im going to go out and get some of this music I never heard of after all aint the discovery of something new or old part of the enjoyment. Hell im 37 yrs young and whats in my cd changer right now is Johnny Cash American Recordings, Best of Atlanta Rythym Section, Chilipeppers Califoniacation, Sevendust, Stanley Clark School days, Devo greatest hits. Point being give everything a good listen not everything old is outdated and lame i find that something I wasn't into 15 yrs ago is new and refreshing today. Thanx for all the responce.....
Funkster

I'm sure its been said a thousand times
but i dont care becasue it rhymes
my favourite drum and bass pair
is from the red hot chili peppairs

An immensly tight drum and bass thing going on, and pretty unique sounding I think.

I like Bruford and Levin. They get into some great rythyms
with King Crimson.

Chris A,
What a treat it must have been to hang with the Feat.I met Lowell in a place called The Calderone Concert Hall here in NY around 1977 and he was pretty nuts.I always loved they're music and especially the rhythm section.Liberty DeVitto is a friend of mine(and an excellent drummer)and he said that Ritchie is a real nice guy.

GK--
It was great hanging with them. My drummer got a picture taken with Ritchie and my guitar player( who works at a camera store) got it blown up for him for an Xmas present. The gig was a couple of years ago and to this day it was one of the best experiences of my musical career. For 2 nights in a row we got to watch some serious jamming. The first night from right behind Ritchie's kit and the second night from the mixing booth.

Chris A.:rolleyes:

Geddy, and Neil.....What, are there other ones out there????

Did anybody say Tim Commerford and Brad Wilk of Rage Against The Machine? If anybody thinks this band is just loud rappy noise, think again. Check out the tightness in the rythm section, good guitar player, and lyrical intellect.

I like this. Everyone always seems to hate what I like. And coincedentaly, they always express their feelings in the last post before mine. I like the rythm of Reggie and David. And if you wanna talk REAL RYTHM, then listen to SLIPKNOT. A drummer, two percussion players, and a bassist. That is some hear pounding rythm... eh? eh?

well my favirote would have to be
1. brad and tim from rage
2. chad and flea from RHCP
3. the dude's from slipknot
4. reggie and dave from korn are cool too

Hey bro (mega). I like Kitty too man. But you ar right about the drummer being the best part of the band. The bass player sux! I understand the wanna-be-drummer thing. He's even admitted that he is more like a drummer on his bass. That's his style. It's all good. laterz...

PS. I just got the new Warwick catalog today. Damn. Sweet. Good lord. Sweet :) again!!!

edited by cassanova for rules and regulations violations

ooooh....so manly! I like that.

John McVie and Mick Fleetwood. They've been solid for a long time now.

Originally posted by toycopbassist
"...but hey he is making more money than your punk a$$ so shut the hell up.
tim and brad are still the best"



If you wanna talk ECONOMICS(ie $$$), then let's include Hansen, The Spice Girls, 'N Sync, blahblah yaddayadda. Those "bands" & their sidemen are making more cake than PLAYERS like William Parker, Ben Allison, Torsos, Flecktones, etc. Music, not product, should be(IMO)merited on something else other than $$$; it's supposed to be an art, right?

...congrats, Brad; you have a fan! :D

Originally posted by GK38
Liberty DeVitto is a friend of mine(and an excellent drummer)and he said that Ritchie is a real nice guy.

You mean Liberty DeVitto, the guy that played on all those
classic Billy Joel albums? Man, that's pretty cool.

Originally posted by frost13
John McVie and Mick Fleetwood. They've been solid for a long time now.

And don't forget, their multi-multi-platinum band that
has been going for 30+ years with different frontmen/
women was named after THE RHYTHM SECTION! I think
that's something we all need to reflect on!

I can't believe only one other person mentioned Geddy Lee and Neil Peart (Rush)...they make up probably the most powerful rhythm section in rock music. A close second would have to be John Myung and Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater)though.

Here's another vote for Neil and Geddy.

Also, Doug Pinnick and Jerry Gaskill of King's X. They lay grooves that are a mile deep!

How about the rythm section for Beck? That's some under-rated funk.

Chris Squire and Bill Bruford
Chris Squire and Alan White
John Myung and Mike Portnoy
John Deacon and Roger Taylor
Cliff Burton and Lars Ulrich

Tony Levin & Manu Katche
Jimmy Garrison & Elvin Jones
Habib Faye & ? (Youssou n' Dour band)
SLY AND ROBBIE !!!!!!!!
Fuzbot Wanamaker & Dr. Math Waxman

hands down Mike Clarke and Paul Jackson
next is the Meters (whole rythm section band)
and Rocco Prestia and David Giribaldi

how about the Buddy Miles-Billy Cox combo from the Band of Gypsies (I don't think I've seen that one yet)

I agree with a bunch of the others too that have already been said too:
Flea-Chad Smith (and Flea with Jack Irons too!)
Tim C. and Brad from RATM
Eric and Bud from Sublime and Long Beach Dub Allstars
John Entwhistle-Keith Moon
John Paul Jones-John Bonham
Les Claypool and Tim or Brain (I don't know if I saw that one yet)
Geddy Lee and Neil Peart
John Myung-Mike Portnoy
Jaco + anyone

Oh yeah I just thought of another (I'm pretty sure hasn't been mentioned yet)
Charles Mingus and Danny Richmond. Oh Yeah!

BeefCake and Jizmak
Scott Tunes and Chad Wakerman
Tony Levin and Bill Bruford

Such and Torres from Bon Jovi

well, I like...
Sam Rivers and John Otto(LB)
Slipknot
and Godsmack

But you guys probably already knew that so go ahead and make fun.

hey guys, download the song "do nothing" by Slipknot. you will never look at Slipknot the same way. Funky slap bass and solos combined with metal and huge Funk interludes! talk about mood swings...

yea well prozac will do that

Living: Micky Dolen & Peter Tork

Dead: Anthony Williams, Jaco Pastorius, Thelonious Monk

Black Sabbath hands down.It just has this incredably evil sound to it

Since I can only remember The Meters getting one vote (thanks JimK!) I'll throw in another vote for them. They were/are tighter than tight.

My Picks:

*The Motown rhythm section (aka The Funk Brothers)
*The Stax rhythm section (aka Booker T. and the MGs)
*The Jimi Hendrix Experience (Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding)
*Band of Gypsys (Billy Cox and Buddy Miles)
*Miles Davis's section on Kind of Blue (Paul Chambers, Jimmy Cobb, Bill Evans)
*Queen (John Deacon, Roger Taylor)

[Edited by Bassline1414 on 12-07-2000 at 10:20 PM]

Anybody listened to Faith no More?
They certainly know what to leave out.

Sebastian Steinberg and Yuval Gabay from the now defunct Soul Coughing. Never was there a fatter groove than the loop that propels "Screenwriter's Blues."

Melvin Gibbs and Ronald Shannon Jackson. Was there ever a stranger conceptualist on drums than RSJ? Musical and odd. Oddly musical. Their work in the incarnation of The Decoding Society that featured a second bassist, Reverend Bruce Johnson, and a pre-Living Color Vernon Reid on guitar was amazing, but their free jazz meets rock power trio ensemble Power Tools was for me the apex.

Chris Squire and Bruford of Yes. "Heart of the Sunrise" particularly.

The cats in Red Snapper, whose names escape me at the moment. "Suckerpunch" on Making Bones just slams.

Marcus Miller and Al Foster on Miles' The Man with the Horn. "Fat Time" is one of the slinkiest, most insinuous tunes ever. It builds and builds.

As does the long tune that opens the Weather Report LP where Victor Bailey and Omar Hakim made their debut (Initiation? Is that the title? It's one of the only WR titles I can't seem to find on CD). Such a different sounding rhythm section from Jaco/Erskine--less lean and clean, more loose and muscular--but such worthy successors.

Michael Walden and Ralphe Armstrong from the much maligned Visions of the Emerald Beyond era of Mahavishnu Orchestra. Narada Michael Walden created one of the most distinctive acoustic drum sounds I've ever heard.

Personally my current faves are:

Melvin Gibbs/Sim Cain (I would love to hear earlier/later Gibbs stuff if I could find it)
Helmet (one of the few metal bands who GROOVE- check out Meantime and hopefully you'll understand even if the intensity isn't to your liking)
RHCP
James Brown's rhythm sections - all of 'em
Tori Amos' live band (no names to hand at the moment)
Rocco Prestia/David Garibaldi

RHCP
RATM
Incubus
Mudvayne

Gorge Porter and Ziggaboo Modleste:D

By they way I hope its crap but Ive heard Muzz Skillings is a disfuntional substance abusing schmuck these days.

:(

AJ

Lee and Peart
Harris and McBrain

John Wetton and Bill Bruford
Billy Sheehan and Pat Torpey

Paul McCartney and Joe English :D

tim cummerford & brad wilk justin chancellor & danny carey gezer butler & i cant remember the drummers name the guys from At-The-Drive-In the guys from system of a down too

sly and robbie

Best rythym section would have to be Brad Wilk and Tim Commerford for Rage Against the Machine. Not only does Tim lay down some of the most powerful and hard bass lines but hes got the main man Brad just beating the Sh*t out of the set. These guys used to really rock together.:cool:

Ron Carter & Tony Williams
Paul & Ringo
Me & Me (on my own recordings :D)

Geddy and Neil.

Honorable mentions go to Harris & McBrain, Chancellor & Carey, and Malone & Reinert.

sting and stewart copeland,dave holland and tony williams,mike clark and paul jackson,mac mcneilly and david w simms of jesuslizard fame.

Originally posted by pharroh
mike clark and paul jackson

Damn, I forgot that one, that's a great one too. Thrust is one of my favourite albums.

Mike & Jeff Porcaro
http://www.totosite.net/images/mike.jpg
http://www.stevelukather.net/images/jeff.jpg

As for muzz funkster, from what I remember he is a nyc firefighter. but don't qoute me on that.

Originally posted by the Qintar
dudes those are some lame responses, sorry, anyway i gotta tell you, if you want to hear a real rythm section, you gotta check out the minutemn, george hurley (drums) and mike watt (bass) are freakin amazing, they outdo anybody on any day, check out the minutemens double nickels on the dime to hear some sweet drum and bass combos, i also gotta credit husker du, the meat puppets (those kirkwoods are amazing) also take a check at the bad brains, hey, did everybody forget about pushmonkey, though relatively new they kick some real butt


DUDE!! Great choices,, but dont forget about Charles Manson and Helen Keller!:rolleyes:

did anyone mention Mick Shrimpton and Derek Smalls???

Originally posted by pyrohr
As for muzz funkster, from what I remember he is a nyc firefighter. but don't qoute me on that.

I have heard the same thing pyrohr, Although I did hear that he plays with a few jazz cats on occasion. Love that first Living Colour disc!

No one has mentioned Aston "Family Man" Barrett and his brother Carley: Bob Marley's rhythm section.

Sly and Robbie, definitely.

Tina Weymouth and Chris Frantz.

I saw Omar Hakim and Victor Bailey in about 1982, and they blew me away.

Sade's rhythm section; Paul S. Denman and ?

Tony Levin and Manu Katche.

You gotta start somewhere, and these guys saw one hell of alot of crazy gigs and situations. Thru it all they continued to deliver for decades.

Not Flashy. Simple? Sure. But to the point, concise, and just enough to make tons of great Rock 'n' Roll.

You're gonna laugh, but they got ALL the money.

Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts. DUH!

i have to make an observation here

since all good music is built around the rhythm section (from j.s. bach to gangster rap)
it therefore follows that EVERY decent, popular band of ANY genre MUST have a good rhythm section, or it would not be popular and therefore included in this thread.
So this thread is basically another "whats your favourite band " thread

sorry, but it is

:confused: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm more of a jemmott/Purdy connection

Tony Levin / Bill Bruford
Chris Squire / Bill Bruford & Alan White
Rocco Prestia / David Garibaldi
JPJ / John Bonham

Oops... Forgot to add Stefan Lessard / Carter Beauford

I must add one that I have been listening to for the last few days.
Leon Wilkeson and Artimus Pyle from Skynyrd

I think

Henry James & __________ anyone he plays with!

:bassist: I am sure I will here it for a few of these, but the top 5 that have influenced me are:

1. Les Claypool and Tim Alexander. They're dead on with each other even when they are just jamming around.
2. Alex Katunich and Jose Pasillas 3rd. They were the most technical funk rock rythm section I have ever heard.
3. Sam Rivers and John Otto. They matched each others intensity on their instruments very well.
4. Geddy Lee and Neil Peart. They inspired more "Greats" then i think any other rythm section has. Ever.
5. John Paul Jones and John Bonham. Except for these guys.

Now, I know I will most likely be attacked by the "Bass by the Book" snobs for mentioning Claypool, and be shredded by the close minded old school thumpers for mentioning Limp Bizkit. So, in a premtaure response, I will say this: Shut up. If you were to strip everything away from Primus and Limp Bizkit and just listen to the bass and drums you would understand that the amount of writing, organizing, and technical mastery that is involved with what they do could rival ANY of the greats that came before them. And don't say its because of my generation that I don't know any better because I have Rush and Zepplin on my list as well. :bassist:

John Gustafson - Paul Thompson (Roxy Music)
Tom Petersson - Bun E.Carlos (Cheap Trick)
Doug Rauch - Michael Shrieve (Santana)

John Entwhistle & Keith Moon
John Paul Jones & John Bonham
Les Claypool & Herb or Brain
Geddy Lee & Neil Peart
Steve Harris & Nicko McBrain or Clive Burr
Billy Sheehan & Dennis Chambers
Then again, Dennis Chambers + any bass player that can lock in with him. That man can grooooooove.

Shrieve. Yeah. What the heck ever happened to that guy?

IINM, didn't Family Man's brother play guitar?
All of my faves have been mentioned, but I gotta add these:
Chuck Rainey and Dennis Chambers. In fact, any rhythym section that played for Steely Dan!
Larry Graham and Greg Errico - Sly and the Family Stone
Stu Zender and Nick Van Gelder - Very early Jamiroquai
Marshall and Diamond - Ohio Players
Andrew Levy and the drummer whose name escapes me - Brand New Heavies.

Shrieve. Yeah. What the heck ever happened to that guy?

Alive and well. (http://www.michaelshrieve.com/)

Great thread!

John Paul Jones and John Bonham

Jaco Pastorius and Peter Erskine

Stanley Clarke and Lenny White

John Entwistle and Keith Moon

Charles Mingus and Max Roach

Jimmy Garrison and Elvin Jones

Paul Chambers and Philly Joe Jones

Phil Lesh and Billy Kreutzmann

Oteil Burbridge and Butch Trucks

Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr

Very interesting info. The guy has lead a very
interesting life to say the least.

Kippis!

Neil peart and Geddy lee
Stuart Hamm and Steve Smith
Vail Johnson and Bruce Carter

Good ones right about now...

Avishai Cohen and Jeff Ballard
Yonrico Scott and Todd Smallie
AJ and El Negro
Adam Nussbaum and Bruce Gertz
John McKnight and John Schwenke
Rashid Ali and Jimmy Garrison

Kippis!

Be my guest.

:cool:
Jaco- Kenward Dennard.
Jonas Helborg- Jeff Spipes
Pino- Steve Jordan
Jamerson-Anybody?
Berry Oakley- Jamio- Butch Trucks.
George Porter Jr.- Zigaboo.
Duck Dunn- Al Jackson.
Danko- Helm.

JPJ - John Bonham

Adam Clayton - Larry Mullen

Geddy Lee - drummer from Rush (sorry, forgot his name)

Prince and... himself.
(Exhibit A: "Lady Cab Driver" from "1999")

Jeff Ament and Matt Cameron do a quite solid job

Hutch and Ricky Fatar

Jamerson & Benny Benjamin
Rocco Prestia & David Garibaldi
Jaco & Peter Erskine
Bootsy & Clyde Stubblefield
Paul Jackson & Mike Clark
Gary Willis & Dennis Chambers
Anthony Jackson & Steve Jordan
John Patitucci & Dave Weckl
Jimmy Johnson and Bill Berg
Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker
Janick Top/Bernard Paganotti and Christian Vander
Percy Jones and Mike Clark
John Wetton and Bill Bruford
Chris Squire and Allan White
Stanley Clarke and just about anyone
Colin Hodgkinson and Tony Hicks
Victor Wooten and Futureman
Tony Levin and Bill Bruford
Eddie Gomez and Steve Gadd
Carlos Benevant and Tom Brechtlin
Jonas Hellborg and just about anyone
Klaus Flouride and DH Pelligro
Geezer Butler and Bill Ward
Al and Joe Bouchard
Steuart Liebig and Alex Cline

I'll think of more later--------

How come no ones mentioned...

Juan Alderte and Jon Teodore from the Mars Volta. These guys are like, connected at the spine.



Justin Chancellor and Danny Carey of Tool. Its hard enough locking in when your both in the same time signature, they do it while theyre both in different ones.

Prince and... himself.
(Exhibit A: "Lady Cab Driver" from "1999")

And the Time's "777-9311"!

Some all-time favorites:

Chuck Rainey and Bernard Purdie
Tim Drummond and Jim Keltner
Willie Weeks and Andy Newmark
Lee Sklar and Russ Kunkel
Rick Danko and Levon Helm
Bernard Edwards and Tony Thompson
Orejon and Ed Marimba
Hub and ?uestlove

WOW!!! :eek: This is a blast from the past! I was a newbie when I wrote this thread. I have so many great rythm sections in my head it's hard to try and think of any that are not mentioned!
I been listening to a recent bootleg of a Funky Meters show and George Porter jr and Russel Baptiste are an incredibly funky section!

weather report the Jaco years

Paul Jackson & Mike Clark
Percy Heath & Kenny Clarke
WILTON FELDER & JIM KELTNER

Sly Dunbar & Robbie Shakespeare aka Sly & Robbie.

If you havent heard 'em check out Bob Dylan's Infidels album.
Or...any Black Uhuru album, lotsa Grace Jones, Joe Cocker's Sheffield Steel and many of their own recordings.

These guys are it, in my opinion, humble as it may be...or not :D

Mingus & Roach, Ya, now we are talkin !
How about Chico Hamilton with Kenny Gradney

Gary Willis & Dennis Chambers

Mingus & Roach, Ya, now we are talkin !
How about Chico Hamilton with Kenny Gradney

yeah!
:bassist:

Abe Laboriel and Vinnie Colaiuta- Abe Laboriel & Friends

PS- i don't think it's possible to see more talented musicians on one stage then Abe and Friends- Abe Laboriel, Vinnie Colaiuta, Paul Jackson Jr. and Tom Brooks. Except maybe when i saw them in redmond, WA and they brought out Phil Keaggy for a final jam session

:D

Rocco Prestia & David Garibaldi

Lopez and Mendez from Opeth.

~ Richard Bona and Vinnie Colaiuta
Well, really Richard Bona and anyone...
~ Anthony Jackson and Steve Ferrone
~ Anthony Jackson and Steve Gadd
~ Anthony Jackson and Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez
~ Me'Shell and Gene Lake
~ Matthew Garrison and Gene Lake
~ Reggie Washington and Gene Lake
~ Gene Lake and Gene Lake
~ Will Lee and . . . . . . . anyone
~ I will also say Paul Jackson and Mike Clark (also Harvey Mason)
~ Chuck Rainey and Bernard Purdie -- actually, I think Bernard Purdie could make anyone sound funky.
~ John Paul Jones and John Bonham
~ Marcus Miller and Poogie Bell
~ Hubert Eaves IV and Poogie Bell (check out Erykah Badu's Live CD... :eek:
~ Pino Palladino and anyone, but especially with Ahmir Thompson on VooDoo
~ Pretty much anyone who played with James Brown between . . . well, ever
~ Gary Willis and Joey Heredia (spelling?)
~ David Dyson and ______ on Tim Hagan's Animation, Imagination studio and live.
~ Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Sipe
~ Every bassist and drummer I've heard playing with Kim Burrell, John P. Kee, Fred Hammond, Donnie McClurkin, Joe Pace, Kirk Franklin and a host of other gospel artists.
~ Andrew Gouche and anyone
~ Oh crap, how could I forget Stuart Zender and Derrick McKenzie (spelling?) of Jamiroquai!!!
~ Whoever the cats are playing with Jill Scott
~ Anyone and J.D. Blair
~ Paul Chambers/Jimmy Garrison and Elvin Jones/Tony Williams
~ Prince and Prince
~ Freakin Rhonda and John Blackwell!!!
~ Everyone playing on Roy Hargrove's Hard Groove
~ Rick James and Rick James
~ Stevie Wonder's band, any of them
~ SOULIVE!
~ Sting and Stewart Copeland
~ Victor Bailey and Dennis Chambers
~ Victor Bailey and Omar Hakim
~ John Pattitucci and Brian Blade
~ John Pattitucci and Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez
*** Good crap on a dog I left out Rocco and David Garibaldi! Oi. . . ***

These are in no particular order, I'm sure I've listed the same as other posters and the list is far from exhaustive.

Geezer Butler and Bill Ward

or

Flea and Chad Smith

Geezer Butler and Bill Ward

or

Flea and Chad Smith

+1 for Butler/Ward. Also Sly & Robbie and Bill Wyman/Charlie Watts during the Some Girls/Emotional Rescue era.

Jon Theodore and Juan Alderete

Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker

Dave Schools, Todd Nance, Domingo S. Ortiz

that'd be the world renowned Widespread Panic rhythm section for ya'

John Deacon & Roger Taylor. At least as far as *rawk* is concerned...

MM

Ive always liked
Robert deLeo and Eric Kretz
and
Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts

Tom Kennedy and Dave Weckl
Rocco and Dave Garibaldi
Jones and Bonham
Entwhistle and Moon
Clarke and White
Jaco and anybody
Stefan Lessard and Carter Beauford
Adam Nitti and Will Denton
Larry Graham and Greg Errico
John Pattitucci and Dave Weckl


The list is endless

Les and the various drummers that he has played with have put down some of the best rhythm i've ever heard. listen to how powerful the bass and drums are in Laquer Head and Bucket Head.

+1 for RAGE against the machine

I've seen Bill Bruford's name mentioned a lot, but I think my favorite bassist with him was Jeff Berlin...not to take anything away from Tony or John Wetton (that would be foolish) I saw Bill & Jeff together a few times and left thinking that I had seen the best.

Carl Radle & Jim Gordon or Jim Keltner was a fine matchup too...jeez there's so many great rythm sections, it's tough.

My favorite 3:
Jones and Bonham
Chuck Rainey and Bernard Purdie
Ron Carter and Tony Williams

also:
Duck Dunn and Al Jackson
Rocco and David Garibaldi
Tim LeFebvre and Zach Danzinger
Muzz Skillings and Will Calhoun
Fima Ephron and Gene Lake
Hub and ?uestlove
Paul Jackson and Mike Clark
Mingus and Danny Richmond
Jimmy Garrison and Elvin Jones
Ray Brown and Ed Thigpen
Lincoln Goines and Robby Ameen
Tommy Shannon and Chris Layton
Mike Watt and George Hurley

Flea & Chad Smith
Billy Cox & Buddy Miles
Rhonda Smith & John Blackwell
Noel Redding & Mitch Mitchell
Hub & ?uestlove
Meshell Ndegeochello
Tommy Shannon & Chris Layton
JJ Johnson & David Labrueyere
Les Claypool & Brain
Aaronn Comess & Mark White
JoJo & Ringo Garza
Larry Graham & Wille Sparks
Larry Graham & John Blackwell
Larry Graham, Prince (both on bass) & John Blackwell:D
Sheila E & Rhonda Smith
Anyone involved with James Brown and Bootsy

Dave Holland/Roy Haynes on the Pat Metheny record "Question and Answer".

Miroslav Vitous/Roy Haynes on the Chick Corea record "Now he sings, Now he sobs". (I love Roy Haynes :) )

Jaco Pastorius/Don Alias on Joni Mitchell live record "Shadows and Light". Listen to that groove!!! It's SO frekin' TIGHT!

How 'bout Neil and Geddy?
Verdine and anybody