There was a lot of uproar in the bass community during cause by the Bass Player interview of Feildy of Korn when he said he didn't practice.

Do you still practice?

Not really. A little before a tour, I'll make sure my playing becomes more regular, just to build up strength.

Justin Chancellor in July 2007 Bass Player Magazine

I think it is interesting that he didn't receive the same response from the community that Feildy did.

I'm not saying that this is my opinion, but a reason may be because Justin has actually proven his skill and legitimacy as a player. And Fieldy (I suppose) hasn't.

i dont really like either of them. BUT, theres always a BUT, Fieldy killed a Pink Floyd song, so i like Justin more.

There's also a difference in being Justin Chancellor and being Fieldy. Justin Chancellor is a genious. I'm not saying that Fieldy is bad, but I'm not saying he's good either. I will say however that he never impressed me. Justin Chancellor on the other hand has never not impressed me. Justin Chancellor said that whenever he plays something he is writing something new and that he only practices to build up his strength and stamina for the song. IMO the things that he writes are magical and if all he needs to do is practice it a few times after he writes it to get it down, so be it. I doubt Fieldy writes anything other than "clackity clack thud" when he plays and I don't know how he is about his practice methods. Now to clear things up, I never said Fieldy sucked or that I didn't like Korn, I personally do like Korn and I think that Fieldy's playing fits in with the band, all I said was that he has never impressed me as a bass player (or as a rapper.) Also comparing Fieldy to Justin Chancellor IMO is blasphemous. Fieldy does not compare to Justin Chancellor.

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

I'm not saying that this is my opinion, but a reason may be because Justin has actually proven his skill and legitimacy as a player. And Fieldy (I suppose) hasn't.

justin c... fieldys tone and style doesent impress me... when they did a cover of metallica's one and he slapped it with that signature korn tone it sounded so weird..

i dont really like either of them. BUT, theres always a BUT, Fieldy killed a Pink Floyd song, so i like Justin more.

Naw- Monkey and Head killed that song. Neither of them could begin to approach the left hand of David Gilmour.

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

having a great music career does not reflect musicianship.

That Korn cover wasn't bad, Fieldy certainly didn't kill it. I actually don't think it's a great song to begin with...


Only reason there was an uproar is because Fieldy pretty much has no respect in the bass, hell, he's got none form other musicians and non musicians as well. While Justin is always praised and has loads of respect from musicians and non musician's alike.

I think it's sad how bassist don't have respect for Fieldy, seeing as though we seem to be the friendliest of all musicians.He plays what goes best with the music and his tone, whether you like it or not, fits perfect for the music. Korn has been seriously lacking these past 6 or so years. But they, took music in another direction and opened doors for other bands. If people can't accept that, they need to get their heads out of their asses.


Same goes for Tool, opened doors, broke barriers, etc etc. Justin just happens to get more respect because he is a well rounded player who is very creative, with tone that kills.

Tool and Korn are pretty similar, actually. They sound like no one else, they opened doors. Just so happens that one bassist is respected and the other isn't.

Meh.


These threads are retarded, and it should be closed before it goes any further. People can't possibly express how they feel about either player more than they have already.

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

To play someone who knows people. 3/4 of the world is plumb-slap ate up with the dumbass. Being on countless hit albums means nothing if people are stupid. Just because you have a hit album doesn't means you have skill. Lindsay Lohan had a hit album, Justin Timberlake had a hit album, the Backstreet Boys had countless hit albums. Does that mean they have skill or talent. Hits are about marketing, talent is about talent. There's a sucker born every minute and anyone will buy something.

having a great music career does not reflect musicianship.

Why should musicianship have to do anything with how much a respect a musician gets?

You had an excellent response, until this:


Meh.

These threads are retarded, and it should be closed before it goes any further. People can't possibly express how they feel about either player more than they have already.

You miss the gist of the thread. It isn't about these two players as so much it is about us.

EDIT:

To expand upon this, I believe we can have a discussion maturely, can't we? if not, isn't that a horrible commentary on us as it is?

Lindsay Lohan had a hit album, Justin Timberlake had a hit album, the Backstreet Boys had countless hit albums. Does that mean they have skill or talent.

Yes, it does at least to some extent.

Maybe people are suggesting that Fieldy should go practice more because of his lack of skill. Justin gets away with not practicing because he has proven his skill. Or something.

Nah I didn't miss the jist. That was just a poke to the "gods" to make this thread disappear... :D

Maybe people are suggesting that Fieldy should go practice more because of his lack of skill. Justin gets away with not practicing because he has proven his skill. Or something.

A valid point.

Perhaps their skill sets are just different though.

Billy Sheehan once commented that Cliff Williams of AC/DC was one of his favorite players because even though his lines are simple, he is always "there" and never overplayed. This is a good example of two completely different skill sets, yet the one whose general perception is higher admires the one that is perceived as lower.

Yes, it does at least to some extent.

Not really, because most of their music (besides timberlake) wasn't written by themselves. So, therefore, they do not have talent.

as long as the bonfire has no endangered woods in it im all for it

i hate threads like this.

think of it like this, if feildy played in the same style justin chancellor does, korn's music wouldn't sound the same. sure he doesn't play all melodically, and why should he, what he plays fits the songs.

all i can say is who are we to judge others unless we lived a day in theyre shoes.

i hope to god i never see another thread like this again. we are all musicians who are supposed to respect eachother, not rap artists who diss eachother.

Naw- Monkey and Head killed that song. Neither of them could begin to approach the left hand of David Gilmour.

Uhhh, I think Head nailed the solo note for note.

Feidlildy

Not really, because most of their music (besides timberlake) wasn't written by themselves. So, therefore, they do not have talent.

This is a joke, right? You don't need to write songs to have talent.

I think if you are someone like Justin Chancellor where creativity is more important than technical ability there is no need to practice other than before or tour or before recording an album. I have heard similar things said by the Tool drummer Danny Carey. Not practicing before writing an ablum supposedly gives him a fresh approach and makes him forget muscle memory and some of the comfortable and common things we all play when we practice.

I for one don't practice as much as I should but I'm no Wooten or Jazz fusion maestro nor do I want to be. The main practice I get is jamming with drummer of my band a few times a week to keep tight.

So, only songwriters have talent?

How about the hundreds of masterful symphonies across the country that whose musucuans does nothing but play the classis- Mozart, etc..?

Not really, because most of their music (besides timberlake) wasn't written by themselves. So, therefore, they do not have talent.

Uhhh, I think Head nailed the solo note for note.


Not by a long shot.

iall i can say is who are we to judge others unless we lived a day in theyre shoes.


Well said.

You miss the gist of the thread. It isn't about these two players as so much it is about us.

EDIT:

To expand upon this, I believe we can have a discussion maturely, can't we? if not, isn't that a horrible commentary on us as it is?

Gists of threads hardly account for anything.

Theres a lot of canned responses to a lot of topics here.
1. If you mention Fieldy, you get x number of the hate posts.
2. If you mention an ERB, you get x number of might as well play
guitar posts.
3. If you mention bongo's, you get x number of toilet comparison
posts.
4. etc....

The list goes on and on. Your challenge is to wade through this and find the intelligent posts that actually add some insight to the thread. This particular post... not being one of those.

On the bass day DVD, Oteil Burbridge said that he really didn't practice much anymore either, most of it is just from playing these days.

But, this is compared to him practicing ALL day for days on end, so its a little about perspective I suppose. Bottom line, I wouldn't use these comments to gauge different people commitments to their instruments. I'd let their tracks speak for themselves.

There was a lot of uproar in the bass community during cause by the Bass Player interview of Feildy of Korn when he said he didn't practice.

Do you still practice?

Not really. A little before a tour, I'll make sure my playing becomes more regular, just to build up strength.

Justin Chancellor in July 2007 Bass Player Magazine

I think it is interesting that he didn't receive the same response from the community that Feildy did.

no contest, Fieldy can't hold a candle to Justin, and that's not a biased answer, it's just the plain and simply truth.

I don't see what you guys are trying to get at here?
the fact of the matter is, Korn sounds the way it does thanks to fieldy, and TOOL sounds the way it does thanks to Justin.
those are the only important facts!
who's better?
who should practice more?
they don't even use the same approach nor do they play the same music.comparison here is just plain stupid.

comparison here is just plain stupid.

agreed.... that's why I was glad this thread only lasted a short bit and then fell out of circulation a month ago.

now as for Tool sounding like Tool because of Justin.... They sounded very much the same earlier with Paul D'Amour too me ;)

I think it is interesting that he didn't receive the same response from the community that Feildy did. I think that a professional musician of any genre who tours as extensively as these two bass players do, probably doesn't need to practice that material adnauseum (sp.). My band for instance has worked on creating ten original songs over the last year and a half. At this point we are ready to record, and after that is done, I don't think I'll practice this material as much anymore, because we'll be playing shows more, and these songs have become muscle memory (to a point). However, I will still practice because I am a weekend warrior, who clearly sucks and needs to learn a few things. The other positive aspect of not practicing, is pulling away from old, tired habits, and discovering new creativity within your abilities. Thinking outside the realm of what you normally do. I asked a great musician one time "I don't feel like playing, but I know I should practice. What should I do?" His answer surprised me. He said "Don't play. Put it down for a while, and when you want to play -play!" ...:D :bassist:

Ford.......NO.......CHEVY.

meh.

I like Fieldy's style
BUT...
I also dig Justin's work with Tool.

oh gosh, I thought this thread died. :rollno:

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?


Im sorry but it is very easy to say that he was carried by hte actual band lol.....Clackity clack thud is pefect LOLOLOL

agreed.... that's why I was glad this thread only lasted a short bit and then fell out of circulation a month ago.

now as for Tool sounding like Tool because of Justin.... They sounded very much the same earlier with Paul D'Amour too me ;)



Can you imagine what they would sound like now if Paul would have stuck around? My personal Opinion thinks they would have went to the gutter eventually......Altho Undertow is a great album.......JC really cut thru the glass with Aenima...and so on after that!.........

Le Carrot.....

Fieldy sounds like a kick drum. Period.

I don't mind if Justin doesn't practise as long as he continues playing fantastic bass! Going to see Tool on the 23rd!!!

Can you imagine what they would sound like now if Paul would have stuck around? My personal Opinion thinks they would have went to the gutter eventually......Altho Undertow is a great album.......JC really cut thru the glass with Aenima...and so on after that!.........


Paul wrote a good part of AEnima. Demos of AEnima, Stinkfist, Eulogy, and Pushit. They sound jsut like the ones Justin recorded with the exception of Pushit, but the bass isn't different, the whole song got reworked for the final version.

If you want to hear these, hit me up on AIM and I'll send them to you. Or I'll email them to you.

Im sorry but it is very easy to say that he was carried by hte actual band lol.....Clackity clack thud is pefect LOLOLOL

At least you can hear that he's playing something with the clicks...as opposed to most metal bassists where all that you can hear is the low frequencies of the guitars.

Justin Chancellor is an artist and Feildy is a guy who moves his fingers around a bass.

Justin knows when/what he needs to do in order to get the sound out of his head.

FIELDY vs. CHANCELLOR.......mmhmm

i know that JC is a MONSTER BASS PLAYER even though he

plays with a pick.....

but what in the heck is a FIELDY.....is it that thing that goes

clikiti clikiti clack without any logic or taste in the middle of

Korn music........what a shame, that band had a very good

drummer, i think that if they had a Bass Player around he

would have a field day locking in with that drummer.

HAHAHAHA Field day....Fieldy.....the irony.

[QUOTE=prattguy;4510508]FIELDY vs. CHANCELLOR.......mmhmm

even though he

plays with a pick.....

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Thats so damned ignorant.

At least you can hear that he's playing something with the clicks...as opposed to most metal bassists where all that you can hear is the low frequencies of the guitars.

Yea just repetative clicks is all you hear. Now return back to JC where you here the bass mojority of the time......wait,whats that.. an actual bassist :D


Oh Tbirdie I added you to my aim by the way!

Just to play devil's advocate, one could say the Feildy has appeared on countless hit albums and has had a very good career ober the last 10 years or so. Doesn't that qualify him as someone who has proven his skill and legitimacy as a bass player?

Ozzy had an exceptional career. He's the God of heavy metal. I still don't think he's qualified as a legitimate singer (like Dio)though.