Hy Ray, can you please tell me how to play the extremely fast triplets riff of this song? I can't understand what technique Les Claypool uses, I've tried to watch the video of the song over and over, but without results...By the way, i found on the internet some tablatures of the song, the riff is tabbed like

A---------------7----------------------7--------
E-----------7------7---------------7------7----
B---0---5-------------5---0---5--------------5 etc....

Is this correct? I think there's some double thunbing, but I' don't understand....where :)

thanx a lot, best wishes!!:bassist:

Post's been sitting here awhile, had a couple secs, so figured I'd chime in.

If you're talking about the intro to the solo bit, been looking at it (been playing it my way for years, oops). I see and hear no open strings, and don't see or hear that 6th mute after the pop, but Youtube isn't exactly maximum clarity.

My suspicions look like this if double thumped:

...S S d u S
D --------5
A --------- Z (rest)
E ----5-7--
B 5-7------

d = double thump (down) dragging it over the E for the mute
u = double thump (up)

The left hand's not fretting (all ghost notes) other than the pop, btw. Not complex, just a tongue twister, as are most of these things. Yay slap!

Didn't know Les had double in his bag in '91. Looks it from the video, but hard angle to prove. I see the thumb waggling down there, so may just be. Oh. And the pops are (strings): D A D D.

That's at least closer...sorry I can't be definite :hmm:

All online tab should be considered suspect - for instance, notice how he goes from 5 4 3 on the E string during the whole verse riff (and modulations), and in all the tab I just looked at, nobody catches it.

...S P S S P S S P
D --5-----5-----5
A ----------------
E 5---4-4---3-3-- <-- something like that

Somebody pulled a "Hey, can you play Tommy the Cat?" on me last night for the first time in a decade, so maybe the universe wanted me to reply to this...:eek: ooweeooooo

Anyhoo, hope it helps some. Or at least gives you some wierd percussive technique that makes your drummer squeak.

-tap

(p.s. this is also online, so by nature, still suspect...)

Maybe this will help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn3uiLZY9Jg

MAN................

I can assure you all that Claypool doesn't double thump.

Yea, Claypools wrist is just really, really loose and is capable of supersonic speed.


He shows his thumb speed well in Hamburger Train and My Name Is Mud as well.

Was pretty sure that he didn't. But caught it coming back up and getting some vibration off a string he wasn't hitting otherwise, so. Looked like it for a sec :)

In the land of ghosties and mutes, it's a matter of the result rather than the technique. If you get the sound, and you can replicate the sound, hallelujah.

I can assure you all that Claypool doesn't double thump.

I've seen him live from about 10 feet away and I swear he does, at least in a few songs

My Name Is Mud for example. I don't see how anyone could possibly play that without DT.

The muted sounding riff in my name is mud, where it basically sounds percussive, is done by thumping on with his left hand too. In the "hallucinogenetics" dvd it can be seen clearly. perhaps youtube it?

:eyebrow:

No DT in My Name is Mud. Watch the video. It's like...right there! Not sure how it could be more right there. Sounds impressive, deceptively simple. But that's his superpower - which is what makes him a good bassist. Sneakiness.

Though really, pay attention to the slop factor, it's like a wet noodle throughout the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYGmX85sB4c

SHS (slap/left hammer/slap) ghosties. As I'd say are most of his moves that make people go "oooh". I still see no proof of DT.

-tap

The verse riff is played with slapped mutes and left hand slaps


S-LH-LH-S S-LH-LH-S


Slap - Left hand index - Left hand ring (or pinky)

:eyebrow:

No DT in My Name is Mud. Watch the video. It's like...right there! Not sure how it could be more right there.


The verse doesn't have any, but explain to me how you would play the intro without DT. I'd love to hear it

It is not double thumping of any kind. Just really fast slapping of his thumb. Like I said earlier in this thread, Claypool is just really fast. Watch this video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE8CLGIdet4

Thanx a lot, your reply is very useful, i'll try immediately...
p.s greetings from my drummer ahahahahahahaha
www.myspace.com/aenigmaband

Post's been sitting here awhile, had a couple secs, so figured I'd chime in.

If you're talking about the intro to the solo bit, been looking at it (been playing it my way for years, oops). I see and hear no open strings, and don't see or hear that 6th mute after the pop, but Youtube isn't exactly maximum clarity.

My suspicions look like this if double thumped:

...S S d u S
D --------5
A --------- Z (rest)
E ----5-7--
B 5-7------

d = double thump (down) dragging it over the E for the mute
u = double thump (up)

The left hand's not fretting (all ghost notes) other than the pop, btw. Not complex, just a tongue twister, as are most of these things. Yay slap!

Didn't know Les had double in his bag in '91. Looks it from the video, but hard angle to prove. I see the thumb waggling down there, so may just be. Oh. And the pops are (strings): D A D D.

That's at least closer...sorry I can't be definite :hmm:

All online tab should be considered suspect - for instance, notice how he goes from 5 4 3 on the E string during the whole verse riff (and modulations), and in all the tab I just looked at, nobody catches it.

...S P S S P S S P
D --5-----5-----5
A ----------------
E 5---4-4---3-3-- <-- something like that

Somebody pulled a "Hey, can you play Tommy the Cat?" on me last night for the first time in a decade, so maybe the universe wanted me to reply to this...:eek: ooweeooooo

Anyhoo, hope it helps some. Or at least gives you some wierd percussive technique that makes your drummer squeak.

-tap

(p.s. this is also online, so by nature, still suspect...)

Thanx a lot, your reply is very useful, i'll try immediately...
p.s greetings from my drummer ahahahahahahaha
www.myspace.com/aenigmaband