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Transcription seems to be a method mentioned a lot when it comes to questions about learning to hear and learning songs.
I've done a lot of music analysis when studying songs and have found that very useful in hearing and writing. But I have never actually sat down and transcribed a bass line. What do you feel is the importance of this exercise?
Enlighten me. If I understood its usefulness, I would be more motivated to trying it.
sk8terguy316 08-27-2007, 01:12 AM Transcribing works several skills at once.
Writing,Reading,Ear Training,Vocabulary, Lesson in theory (How harmony works and player's noe choice etc)
DocBop 08-27-2007, 10:31 AM Transcribing works several skills at once.
Writing,Reading,Ear Training,Vocabulary, Lesson in theory (How harmony works and player's noe choice etc)
+1 also if there is a player you like you can analyze their style and starting understanding their approach. After you have transcribed a few players it blends together to become you own style. As Herbie Hancock said you copy everyone you can then forget it all and play.
chicagodoubler 08-28-2007, 12:19 AM Not transcribing is like learning English from a book.
Music is a language. Learn it the way we learn language naturally. Listen. Repeat.
In music, one of the best ways to do this is transcribing. I know of no other method that yields superior results.
figuredbass 08-28-2007, 09:24 PM I'll add to the other excellent replies that when you transcribe something it also reinforces your memory of what you're working on. I find that I learn my parts faster and memorize them more quickly and thoroughly. Nice fringe benefit.
Depth_Charge 08-29-2007, 06:31 AM If I understand my music theory terminology, transcribing is a great tool to have if you have a singer who needs to sing in a different key to the original recording.
It teaches you to learn the same song in different places on the fretboard, often using different fingerings.
Hope this helps, and more importantly for my own ego, is correct, I'm a theory noob mahself! :D
stealth51 08-29-2007, 09:21 AM Back in the day when DJs were only heard on the radio and musicians were constantly gigging, transcribing was the only way to remember a large number of songs in a short span of time. I can remember transcribing brass and reed parts just to save time time in rehearsals. I learned a lot about chord structures doing this. Slowing down that 45 (I'm dating myself here :) ) to 33 1/3 to catch those licks. At that time I didn't realize the valuable music lesson I was getting. I think transcribing is great learning tool. :bassist:
Audiophage 08-29-2007, 10:00 AM If I understand my music theory terminology, transcribing is a great tool to have if you have a singer who needs to sing in a different key to the original recording.
You're talking about transposing there.
DocBop 08-29-2007, 10:33 AM Back in the day when DJs were only heard on the radio and musicians were constantly gigging, transcribing was the only way to remember a large number of songs in a short span of time. I can remember transcribing brass and reed parts just to save time time in rehearsals. I learned a lot about chord structures doing this. Slowing down that 45 (I'm dating myself here :) ) to 33 1/3 to catch those licks. At that time I didn't realize the valuable music lesson I was getting. I think transcribing is great learning tool. :bassist:
Also when fake books started showing up. I remember in high school a friend showed us his dad fake book from the 40's. Playing along with radio or TV is good ear training.
I remember destroying many records transcribing them and how great it was when the Sony Superscope cassette recorders came out with the speed control. They not only would change speed up or down by about 30%, but they were great for recording practice and sneaking into clubs. :D
kipsus 08-29-2007, 11:10 AM I have a question. Which part of transcribing brings most benefits? Listening, identifying and repeating, or writing it down? I mean, if I do all those things but instead of writing notes on paper I just play them on a midi keyboard or something, am I really missing anything? (except practicing standard notation)
DocBop 08-29-2007, 11:34 AM I have a question. Which part of transcribing brings most benefits? Listening, identifying and repeating, or writing it down? I mean, if I do all those things but instead of writing notes on paper I just play them on a midi keyboard or something, am I really missing anything? (except practicing standard notation)
Writing it down yourself helps with sightreading. When you have to figure out the rhythms then notate it you will remember what that written notation sounds and looks like. When you come across that same figure sightreading you will instantly know it. That is what learning to sight read is all about learning to recognize notation the way you read the whole words in this message.
LeonLivingston 08-29-2007, 12:44 PM Transcribing often is a great help in ear training and if you choose to write it down it can help with sight reading and increase how comfortable you are with comparing how something sounds and how it looks on paper. The better you get at transcribing the faster you can do it. If you practice regularly you can figure out those tricky parts in no time at all. This helps allot when you are gigging and find yourself playing a song you haven't heard before. If you are good at transposing you can listen to it once and get the jist of the bass line pretty easy.
cowsgomoo 08-29-2007, 03:21 PM so how many of us regularly transcribe then? and how many of us just say it's a good thing to do (like eating your greens)?
Scottgun 08-29-2007, 03:37 PM so how many of us regularly transcribe then? and how many of us just say it's a good thing to do (like eating your greens)?
Not regularly. If I am learning a simple 3-minute pop song, I'm not going to bother. If it is something challenging I transcribe so if I stop practicing a song and come back to it, I don't have to relearn it.
DocBop 08-29-2007, 04:07 PM so how many of us regularly transcribe then? and how many of us just say it's a good thing to do (like eating your greens)?
Not as much as I'd like, but do some daily even if just a couple lines or cool motifs I hear. I also try to sing solos to CD's and if I like something I sing I transcribe it. I should be doing more complete things, but sadly don't.
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