I just wanted those of you interested in wooden end pins to know that we now have our tilt plate for Rabath style end pins and our pegleg wooden end pins on our web site www.kcstrings.com under the "bass stuff" button.

I have also developed two other products soon to be appearing on our web page: hybrid wooden end pins in two length ranges, trimmable from about three inches to about eight inches below the bottom of your standard taper socket, and from seven to thirteen inches. Eight, ten, and twelve millmeter shaft diameters are availbale. A full double taper socket and end pin are also available

Our initial findings are there is an audible improvement in the sound of all basses tried so far over the stock metal end pin with no other changes made to the bass.

http://www.kcstrings.com/bass-machines.html

arrr!!!!! peg leg I'll be bound... how 'propriate fer Talk-like-a-Pirate day...

I like the combined stool/stand idea...

http://www.kcstrings.com/bass-machines.html

arrr!!!!! peg leg I'll be bound... how 'propriate fer Talk-like-a-Pirate day...

I like the combined stool/stand idea...


Aye Matey... That be the whole idea.. we got the rest o' the peg legs posted on the web sight over night.

And as to the Bass stand stool, we be maken a few improovments to them as well, but they'll not get posted as quick. we sell a fair number o' those to the schools as it keeps the instruments off the floor, there by reducin' the number o' neck replacements and plank walkins required.

Hi and thanks for this wooden endpin development which i have been waiting for for years! Any advice on which design actually makes more of a difference? I am interested in installing a simple one like the originals but on the other hand if its easy to install the one with carb fibre 10mm stick to an existing design for standard metal pin that would be less hassle to install? Or does the plain wooden old fashioned one have any sound advantage in your opinion? David:confused:

the least hastle is the hybrid. all you do is pull out the metal end pin and slip in the wooden one. the only potential difficulty is that when you switch pins , some devices have different set screw types some of which want to fall out. I used the carbon fiber rod because I wanted to have a very strong shaft up in the taper and was concerned that wood could break in smaller diameters, and the set screws tend to damage wood pins, potentially causing dificulty removing the pin. the double taper model requires the installation of the wood taper and then limits you to the wooden pin exclusively. the hybred does not. it is the most flexible of the bunch.

if you have a pin style that has a set screw assembly which falls out, a small dowell plastic rod or your metal end pin can work to hold the assembly in place for transport. other wise all you have to do is lay your bass down, slip in the pin snugg the set screw. it takes ten seconds to switch from one to another.

you can contact me directly at rick@kcstrings.com if you want further information

i bet you'd get more business if you posted a price...

i bet you'd get more business if you posted a price...

There is pricing if you go to the kcstrings site through the link provided.

There is pricing if you go to the kcstrings site through the link provided.

ummm - That's not the point. but ok...

there are pics and prices on the web page and as soon as we get it put together, there will be an add on the left hand column, of talk bass. since there are three distinct types of peglegs, and a fourth under developement, not to mention that some of the cellists are getting pirate envy, it's just easier to point you guys to the web page.

Richard,
One more thing. My current endpin is a hollow 5/8" rod. If I wanted to just replace the pin and keep the housing, would one of yours fit? The carbon fiber/ wood short one looks nice, but it's too small.
Greg

Richard,
One more thing. My current endpin is a hollow 5/8" rod. If I wanted to just replace the pin and keep the housing, would one of yours fit? The carbon fiber/ wood short one looks nice, but it's too small.
Greg

16mm solid carbon fiber is really pricey, but I can do hollo carbon fiber tube, and I can fill it with a dowell if neccessary. that way it iw less crushable by the set screw. let me know what length you need

Wouldn't it be practical to just use a wooden pin of 5/8 inch diameter in this case? Or is it not expected that this would be strong enough?

I have tried a short piece of 5/8 birch dowel with a crutch tip, noticing a louder, warmer and deeper tone. Slight, but real. The issue is that I am curious about the angled idea, putting the pin in a more vertical position, and also the option of having a metal tip would be nice. At present, I don't see KC Strings offering the option.
My preference for a 24" stool and having the bass at a steep angle causes it to slide across smooth floors. That's a problem.

Labravajazz:
I am prone to over engeneering, I don't like the notion of someones instrument being damaged because I thought something would be strong enough, so I prefer to do the stronges possible. the other thing about wood is if you are using a set screw, and it displaces the surface of the wood, it might lead to difficulty getting the end pin back out at some point.

Clink:
I can set you up with a threaded metal pin at the bttom and can do either a steel point or I can braise in a carbide tip as you , and you wallet should choose. the same treatment will work for the tilted end pin block and assembly.

there is a second type of tilt block which may be in the offing, the prototype is hopefully now in the hands of its owner. once tested and any required refinements made it is a tilt with a twist, and may work for those "Rabath style " who want an angle of rotation on their bass while they play.

I just wanted to say that I think your endpin (Rabath) is very elegant and a great solution to the problem. The idea of drilling another hole in the bass has always turned me off. I think you have come up with the best solution I've seen. I bought your mushroom shaped stopper a while back and it is the tops (well...)

so you're saying that you have an attachment that will work instead of drilling the hole in the bass for the rabbath style? with this allow the bass to stay in position with no hands on the bass without falling? i currently sit for this reason, but if i can find a way to do it while standing i'll try it. (believe me, i've tried all different ways of standing with my conventional end pin already.)

I developed what we call the tilt block as a method for installing the cantalieverd end pin used in the Rabath method with out drilling the bass. I cannot attest to wheather it will give you andy kins of stability hands free. As I understand it the use of the cantalievered end pin is used to take the weight off the thumb and make movement of the left hand easier and quicker among other things. the down side of the cantalievered or bent end pin is that it will allow th ebass to rock back and forth side to side, and the player must make adjustments for that.

The orriginal intent of the tilt block was to keep from splitting the lower blocks in student basses as we were experiencing that problem. I am a bit from the don't make holes you don't have to school of thought so we prefer to use the tilt block any way. the full installation proceedure is detailed on opur web sight. http://www.kcstrings.com/bass-machines.html

all the rest of the wooden end pin stuff was a spin off from there.

and did your post above say that there is another tilt block in production with a different angle, or did i misread that.

I developed what we call the tilt block as a method for installing the cantalieverd end pin used in the Rabath method with out drilling the bass. I cannot attest to wheather it will give you andy kins of stability hands free. As I understand it the use of the cantalievered end pin is used to take the weight off the thumb and make movement of the left hand easier and quicker among other things. the down side of the cantalievered or bent end pin is that it will allow th ebass to rock back and forth side to side, and the player must make adjustments for that.

The orriginal intent of the tilt block was to keep from splitting the lower blocks in student basses as we were experiencing that problem. I am a bit from the don't make holes you don't have to school of thought so we prefer to use the tilt block any way. the full installation proceedure is detailed on opur web sight. http://www.kcstrings.com/bass-machines.html

all the rest of the wooden end pin stuff was a spin off from there.

and did your post above say that there is another tilt block in production with a different angle, or did i misread that.

the model you refer to is in developement. it is hope fully in the hands of the player it was designed for and it has (currently) a lean back angle of 41 deg instead of 44 and a rotational angle of 22 deg. the player is a jazz man, and I haven't gotten any feed back from him yet. If it works out well it wil be made available. I am not opposed to the idea of custom work either but it can take a lot longer and costs are higher. if you have a specific requirements, contact me directly at rick@kcstrings.com, and I'll can see what we can do for you.

keep me posted on the new model. i'm looking for something that will give me "hands free" but i have no ideas about how to go about getting it, therefore no "custom" orders..

the model you refer to is in developement. it is hope fully in the hands of the player it was designed for and it has (currently) a lean back angle of 41 deg instead of 44 and a rotational angle of 22 deg. the player is a jazz man, and I haven't gotten any feed back from him yet. If it works out well it wil be made available. I am not opposed to the idea of custom work either but it can take a lot longer and costs are higher. if you have a specific requirements, contact me directly at rick@kcstrings.com, and I'll can see what we can do for you.

I have a slightly unrelated question, I'm very interested in getting one of those heavy duty rubber plugs to go over my existing Gotz 10mm endpin. Are they for sale?

http://kcstrings.com/eshop/product_info.php?cPath=51&products_id=82


Looks like someone's been improving their website.;)

If you see it on our web sight, even if it hasn't made it to our commerce sight, it is available. just e-mail or call, toll free 888-635-5225.

I want to buy the Peg Leg, do you guys ever plan on getting your website running?

Thanks.

we are working on our e-commerce sight. but all things which are on our regular sight can be ordered by email, mine is rick@kcstrings.com, or you can use anton@kcstrings.com
fortunatly for me I gave up on keeping up on doing web stuff when it became apparent my partner would drive me insane if I continued to do it, and I'm sure someone will fix all of our web stuff some day, in the mean time we have a toll free number listed a couple of posts ago, and the email.

in the mean time, if there are any of you out there who are the type who simply must have the odd thing when it is available, we have 3 and only three blue bodied dblBass Buggies they are kind of a powder blue not quite as dark as royal blue.

we are switching to an upholstered seat on our bass stand stools, and have added a t-mold bumper down the front edge of the bass stand part. there will be new pictures coming soon on the web sight as well... I hope.

I have just been informed our e-commerce sight is now functional for the pegleg endpins

Hi
This is alexhopes,I just wanted those of you interested in wooden end pins to know that we now have our tilt plate for Rabath style end pins and our pegleg wooden end pins on our web site www.kcstrings.com under the "bass stuff" button.

I have also developed two other products soon to be appearing on our web page: hybrid wooden end pins in two length ranges, trimmable from about three inches to about eight inches below the bottom of your standard taper socket, and from seven to thirteen inches. Eight, ten, and twelve millmeter shaft diameters are availbale. A full double taper socket and end pin are also available

Our initial findings are there is an audible improvement in the sound of all basses tried so far over the stock metal end pin with no other changes made to the bass.
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