Ok. I thought I was done with effects for a while :eyebrow: :help: but there seems to be one more avenue of exploration.

Thanks in advance for all information.

I use my Demeter Compulator [ my prize effect thanks again Bongo !!] and a Maxon AD999 to enhance/fatten my fretless sound. That is it. The effects are not to change the sound in any dramatic way what so ever.

Once I got the Compulator I knew I was done searching for a compressor unless I moved into rackmount which ain't gonna happen.

I tried a s**t load of delay pedals, mostly boutique, digital and analog before settling on the Maxon. I have the delay time at 9:00, the feedback at 0 and the mix at 12:00. That's it. It just sits there doing its little thing.

So...what got me thinking was trying the " room " setting of the reverb in the effects section of my Acoustic Image amp. The AI builder in his words " cherry picked " the effects settings from the Alesis system. This reverb also gave me some fatness.

Here is the question:

Would a high quality reverb unit give me a better " fatness " effect that my delay pedal ?

And if so, any suggestions ?

Thanks. Here is the AI amp:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t120/digitt/DSC01304.jpg

I'm not Bongomania, but... :D

IMO, reverb is better than delay for fattening your sound. Delay can produce some deep reverb-like tones, but a dedicated reverb unit specializes in that deep ambiance you're looking for.

Personally, though... reverb can often get too muddy on the lower notes of a bass. You might feel differently, but it's the reason why I've never purchased a reverb pedal, and why most bassists don't use reverb.

But realistically speaking... why not just stick to what's in your amp? There's not a lot of dramatic improvement if you go to a dedicated unit, IMO.

I'm not Bongomania, but... :D

IMO, reverb is better than delay for fattening your sound. Delay can produce some deep reverb-like tones, but a dedicated reverb unit specializes in that deep ambiance you're looking for.

Personally, though... reverb can often get too muddy on the lower notes of a bass. You might feel differently, but it's the reason why I've never purchased a reverb pedal, and why most bassists don't use reverb.

But realistically speaking... why not just stick to what's in your amp? There's not a lot of dramatic improvement if you go to a dedicated unit, IMO.

Thanks. I think you are right. I forgot to mention that I want to get a pedal so that I can use the flanger or chorus [ effects I rarely use ] if needed. Also, I want to be able to tweak my main pedals if needed for different basses.

I'm not Bongomania, but...

...You play him on TV? :p

I think both delay and reverb can equally (a) provide fat lushness and (b) muddy up everything into a mushy mess. The key to their use IMO is fading them in and out in exactly the same manner as using the sustain pedal on a piano. You don't hold the sustain pedal down while playing, you only engage it momentarily to fill empty spaces. The most ideal ways to do that with a delay/reverb are to (1) use a volume pedal, or (2) the Toadworks Enveloope, at the input of the delay; and a blender to mix the delay and clean signals. Or perhaps the new Barge expression-pedal controllable blender loop.

Thanks as always.

I have been experimenting more this evening and I think the delay still wins out over reverb.

So I am done with my effects search :hyper::D

Now I can just focus on the more exspensive aspect: buying and selling more basses [ usualy at a loss :bawl: ] But at least it makes me happy.