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Boplicity
01-20-2002, 09:57 AM
I just saw this on a TV peice honoring the tenth anniversary of Miles Davis' death. His album, "Kind of Blue" still sells over 4000 units A WEEK ten years after his death!!! In fact, K of B is the best selling jazz record of all time.

"KInd of Blue" is one of the few albums I own that I just NEVER tire of hearing or playing.

There was a thread here a few weeks ago about bands or musicians that will "stand the test of time." Well, Miles Davis would certainly fit that category.

JimK
01-20-2002, 11:07 AM
Hey JO-
Another "classic" you should check out-
Andrew Hill's Point Of Departure. Though it's considered a '60s Avant Garde album, it's more 'in' than 'out'. Hill is a great, great composer/arranger.
The line-up reads like a "Who's Who of Modern jazz"-
Andrew Hill-piano
Richard Davis-bass
Tony Williams-drums
Eric Dolphy-alto
Joe Henderson-tenor
Kenny Dorham-trumpet


BTW, way back when, Kind Of Blue was the ONE record even a non-Jazz buyer owned(so I've read). ;)

SuperDuck
01-20-2002, 11:38 AM
Kind of Blue was the FIRST Jazz album I bought, and it opened the door for everything. Great album. Everyone should own it. (Although with those numbers, eventually everyone probably will!)

Boplicity
01-20-2002, 05:20 PM
JimK, thanks for the heads up on "Point of Departure." I get scared when I hear "avant garde" attached to a record. I just don't care for the style much, but as you say, the record is more "in" than "out", so maybe I could stomach it.

The show about Davis this morning mentioned some of his other albums I think I might enjoy. Once I get moved and have time to concentrate on such things, I'm going to acquire those Davis albums and check out "Point of Departure" too.

Oh, last, I still am indebted to you for turning me on to "Kind of Blue." That album has brought me hours and hours of enjoyment since I bought it at your suggestion. Davis was a genius. As an aside, the show said he was one of the few jazz musicians of his time to overcome a heroin addiction.

JimK
01-20-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Boplicity
JimK, thanks for the heads up on "Point of Departure." I get scared when I hear "avant garde" attached to a record. I just don't care for the style much, but as you say, the record is more "in" than "out", so maybe I could stomach it.

JO-
"Avant Garde" means a lotta things...
At one time, Louis Armstrong was Avant Garde.
Ditto for Prez, Ellington, Bird, Monk, Mingus, Miles, Coltrane, The Beatles, Hendrix...!
'60s Avant Garde(like this Hill album)is more composed & has more structure than the '60s Free/New Thingers(late period Coltrane, Shepp, Ayler, Pharoah Sanders, etc).
That's the crowd you're probably 'scared' of. ;)

gruffpuppy
01-20-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by JimK


JO-
"Avant Garde" means a lotta things...


Funny, I saw the movie "The Buddy Holly story" today and they refered to him as BeBop.
The labels truly change thru the years.

Point Of Departure is a great disk, in my eyes "Avant Garde" doens't come to mind with this disk. That is the label I have always used for a disk like Coltranes "SunShip" or any disk that takes 10 listens to like. :D

I am a big Eric Dolphy fan so Point is a good disk with Eric. I love the way he can play "outside" but is still melodic.
Another recomend for POD