I believe whole heartedly that the man who created the 13 string "bass" on youtube, is a fraud, and a lutherie criminal. All he did was glue and duct tape pieces of lumber together, sand it, paint it, and put some strings on it. It has a 26" scale, and to me.... that seems a weeeeee bit short, about 4 inches or so, lol. Now he's working on a 14 string Bass/baritone/guitar. sorry if i seem hostile, this guy just really boils my eggs lol.

What's everyone elses feelings on this man and his "bass".


PS, I love Extended Range Basses

PPS, noone has ever heard this bass played, and he claims that he "screwed up the wiring".

yea i have to agree with you there...

It's an interesting claim. He claims to have built the first 13 string bass, but:

1. The bass isn't tuned.

2. It doesn't work.

3. It is made of pine that was glued up with duct tape.

I don't think that it could possibly be the world's first 13 string bass any more than someone who had a bass with 4 strings and tied 9 pieces of string to it. In fact, at least that bass would be 4/13s functional.

The comments are ridiculous too. I can't believe the number of people that think this guy has some kind of talent and is thinking outside the box. I sure didn't see any of that. I saw a person with no talent who simply added 1 to 12 and went with the next logical number of strings.

Agreed. Plus, the design is hideous.

I know your all very impressed, but hold it right there fellas! This "Superbass" is old hat at this point. I'm gonna totally out-do this guy!!

Here are the specs:

35 string 26" scale super-duper-bass
1 piece quarter-sawn, air dried, balsa wood neck.
Fretless 96 fret pine fingerboard w/o fret markers
Mdf body with fixed intonated mdf bridge.
35 strings! Tune to your own custom specifications!(not included)
ready for your own 35 string pu! (ni)
ready to paint! Personalize your new bass!

Own the world's first 35 string bass!!! Be the envy of your friends and remember, I made the world's first 35 string bass!

thanks.... I hoped people thought the same..... he's building a 14 string, this man needs to be stopped. I think Chris Stambaugh, Bill Conklin, Ken Lawrence, Jerzy, and Jens Ritter all need to form a Voltron type force, and fight this evil Zarkon type evil doer (13 strings)

wooh.... Voltron metaphor!

Who agrees with me!

Well you can't stop him, but you can certainly laugh at him and make fun of him until he goes home and cries!

Well you can't stop him, but you can certainly laugh at him and make fun of him until he goes home and cries!

In his latest video right before the video is over, he mentiones something to the effect of not having any friends outside of youtube and myspace. So I would assume he wouldn't have to go home and cry, because he's most likely already there.

He doesn't know when to stop, but it's just a waste of his money. If he wants to then why not?

I do agree with most everyone else though, his designs are horrid and have no practical use.

To each their own though.

Peace

-Benny

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! What a joke..... And a peice of S!@#

yeah... i guess operation Luthier Voltron wouldn't quite work, but, it sure would be fun!

I indeed would have called him a criminal if he had suceeded in selling his construction grade Pine "Superbass" for the $800 he wanted.

I think that cannot exist such a stupid human being to pay 800$ for an "electric bass" built in that way.

What a monstrosity.

That is funny, I had numerous requests from him to be a "friend" on Youtube. I wrote him once asking why we have never heard it and he claimed wiring it wrong, so I said why don't you take it to a local tech for help, wiring isn't rocket science. He said he didn't have the time. LOL

My guess is the pickups are not real and there are no electronics at all. And am I the only one that thinks most of the 13 are all the same string? :)

I asked him why using pine and he says he likes it, I suggested several other woods but no luck. He said that's all he can find.

And the comments on Youtube are always hilarious, it just goes to show Zappa was right, there is an element more plentiful than Hydrogen, it's stupidity.
He wanted his 15 seconds of fame and got it, he's got this thread. :)
Dirk

The best thing about all this is that he's presenting himself as a true visionary! The first man to ever dare to embark on such a journey!

It's kind of like the "Bad guy" professional wrestler, doing the arrogant rants on the microphone about how he's the big new thing etc. etc, and eventually embarassing himself.

I love this guy! He's completely delusional! I can't wait for his new video for the 14 string thing he's making.

Victor Wooten: "I really like to leave people do what ever they want".
just get over it, he wants a 14 string, let him have a 14 string guitar (why should i call it a bass?)
If he thinks that making a 13 (and now a 14) string instrument will make him feel better and more self confident, i wish him good luck. :)

So, does that mean that the guy was actually serious? I saw this some months ago and I was convinced it was supposed to be a joke.

ya he really boils my eggs too......i love that saying!!!

So, does that mean that the guy was actually serious? I saw this some months ago and I was convinced it was supposed to be a joke.

It couldn't be a joke. If he was joking, there's no way he could have kept a straight face in those videos. You simply can't be that funny and such a great actor at the same time!

What if he is around here somewhere:hiding:

i dont know why...but i love this thread :confused: :smug:

What if he is around here somewhere:hiding:

only REAL bass players, hang out on TB :smug:

My question is, does he even own a production model bass? Everyone has a picture of themselves with their bass, and he doesn't seem to have one.

In either case, I had been waiting an entire year since I caught wind of 13Strings project...and a year later, the laugh was totally worth the wait, to say the least:D

only REAL bass players, hang out on TB :smug:

Hey I dont play bass. I just build them. and I totally agree with Waseok, let him build whatever he wants, if it makes him feel any better about himself (outside of myspace and youtube) well then good for him. I have to admit its pretty funny though, if my dad saw me gluing pine together with duct tape, he'd most likely throw half a dozen clamps at the back of my head.

I have to admit its pretty funny though, if my dad saw me gluing pine together with duct tape, he'd most likely throw half a dozen clamps at the back of my head.

he'd be hoping that you're building a pile of fire wood:smug:

HAHHAHAHAHA

Hey I dont play bass. I just build them. and I totally agree with Waseok, let him build whatever he wants, if it makes him feel any better about himself (outside of myspace and youtube) well then good for him. I have to admit its pretty funny though, if my dad saw me gluing pine together with duct tape, he'd most likely throw half a dozen clamps at the back of my head.

I disagree a hundred percent! Where is this guy? let's get a team together and go beat him up! :hiding:

lol, he's in the UK.

Just out of novelty, I added him to my myspace friend's list.

the caption under one of his pictures is MY BEST BASS, MY BEST COAT & MY BEST BOOT'S! IS THERE ANYMORE TO LIFE?

best bass huh? it seems to be the only one he owns, although I'm not surprised, after spending a lot of money on pine.

and what's with ALL CAPS?

I'm sorry, but with that accent, it's like the Monty Python of bass building...completely rediculus. :rolleyes: And I think the "pickup" is probably just a block of wood glued in place...don't know why he even bothered with the output jack. The "control cavity" cover's put on with flat-head screws, too...

I don't think it would be so bad if he claimed it was a work of art and hung it on his wall (even though it still looks like crap). But no...he claims it's functional and is even attempting to sell it. What a looney...

-Josh

if you ever visit his freewebs.com site, it's clear that he's a little batty.

thanks.... I hoped people thought the same..... he's building a 14 string, this man needs to be stopped. I think Chris Stambaugh, Bill Conklin, Ken Lawrence, Jerzy, and Jens Ritter all need to form a Voltron type force, and fight this evil Zarkon type evil doer (13 strings)

wooh.... Voltron metaphor!

Who agrees with me!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/grommit/voltron.jpg

ahhh man Im so sorry Wilser, im booking flights for both of us, im running after this guy with a pitchfork.

"SO WHAT DID YOU DO WITH YOUR LIFE?" THEY'LL ASK ME IN YEAR'S TO COME, AND I'LL REPLY WITH "I GOT UP OFF MY ARSE AND CHANGED THE WORLD OF THE BASS!"

Thats it, I mean im bustin my ass tryin to build decent basses, and this guy claims to change the world with knotty pine and duct tape? this is sad, very sad.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S BRAGGING ABOU!

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I ASTONISHED THE WORLD WITH MY CREATIVITY WHEN I WON A NOBEL PRIZE FOR MY REVOLUTIONARY 16 STRING SUPER-DUPER BASS

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/ThatOneGuy1334/16string.jpg




....asshole
just bring him back over here, i think we all should get a chance to kick him in the face

****** bass aside, the shear arrogance is just ridiculous

not to mention his comment about how imprecise homemade instruments are ("show me your homemade instruments")........

I disagree a hundred percent! Where is this guy? let's get a team together and go beat him up! :hiding:

yea, assassination

well you gotta give him some points for taking the time to shape this frankenstine.

Must be a lot like Mexican Fender factory, oops I did it again:rollno:

This is truly a guilty pleasure. Did he really say:
"SO WHAT DID YOU DO WITH YOUR LIFE?" THEY'LL ASK ME IN YEAR'S TO COME, AND I'LL REPLY WITH "I GOT UP OFF MY ARSE AND CHANGED THE WORLD OF THE BASS!"

Looks like someone's got a new signature!

If we keep this up, we're gonna make this guy the new "Leave Britney alone!" guy!

If we keep this up, we're gonna make this guy the new "Leave Britney alone!" guy!

whoa, you totally read my mind :cool:

:cool:

13Strings is a riot.

I didn't like this guy when I saw him. I've never built a bass, but I'm going to soon (famous last words) And the amount of thought I've put into it is crazy...I've gone through three or four different designs, and finally I think I'm happy with The woods, finish, PU configuration, etc.

So the thought of some random guy thinkin "how can I make myself look good, I know! make a completely impractical and unplayable bass!" sort of makes me angry.

I'm in the UK, so if anyone knows his address, I could go and have words.:scowl:

If we keep this up, we're gonna make this guy the new "Leave Britney alone!" guy!

Hey, be nice... I know that guy! :D

really?.... wow.

i just think its cool that he is trying to do something big. give the guy some credit for working on the bass and documenting it...

posting his progress and telling the truth...

if he had done anything different you would have asked for proof etc...

i think he's paying attention

and for the judgmental nature the majority of responses to this thread...

if you are commenting negatively and have scripture quoted in your signature?

CHECK YOURSELF

13strings himself doesnt really piss me off, its all the comments he gets with people saying how cool his bass is and how he shows what hard work and dedication can lead to, DUCT TAPE OMFG

I'm not too upset about it either. At least he's not putting a bunch of parts together from Squires and trying to sell it as a vintage Fender or Sadowsky on ebay. Those guys are the ones who need roughed up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/grommit/voltron.jpg

I seriously couldn't stop giggling when I saw that. But being as its part Ritter, there's not enough gold on there.

So the guy built a bass and blew his own horn, big deal. Anyone who knows anything about instrument building can tell right off that the bass is probably un-playable at the most. The only person he's fooling is himself and maybe a few people that lack the knowledge of how an instrument should be built. My point is I don’t think no one really takes him serious and those who do are for the most part just ignorant to the fact. I really don’t see the point in further bashing the guy, for the most part he's done that to himself already.......

i just think its cool that he is trying to do something big. give the guy some credit for working on the bass and documenting it...

posting his progress and telling the truth...

if he had done anything different you would have asked for proof etc...

i think he's paying attention

and for the judgmental nature the majority of responses to this thread...

if you are commenting negatively and have scripture quoted in your signature?

CHECK YOURSELF

I'm aware that some of this palaver may seem judgemental, and I happen to be a follower of Christ.

But actually, Gregory, he's not paying much attention, and being completely dishonest. He's openly lied from his videos to his answers to questions to his ebay thing. So, consider this comedy, and not anti scripture. After all, several of us have already emailed this guy offering honest help! As a brother in Christ, I love him, or else I wouldn't have offered him a hand. And as a brother, I will tease him unrelentingly as well!!

Love,
Dusty

13Strings won't reply to my myspace comments concerning his 14 string bass.

now I feel unloved, lol :D

I asked him about his "Company" and He said he'd make a 9-string for $1,200. Dead serious.



I almost died laughing.



and wasn't his "Superbass" frighteningly overpriced at one point as well?

was this US dollars, pounds sterling or euros? :cool:

I asked him about his "Company" and He said he'd make a 9-string for $1,200. Dead serious.



I almost died laughing.



and wasn't his "Superbass" frighteningly overpriced at one point as well?

832.80 dollars, i believe...was the price, the last time I checked.

My point is I don’t think no one really takes him serious and those who do are for the most part just ignorant to the fact. I really don’t see the point in further bashing the guy, for the most part he's done that to himself already.......
agree, plus, the only ones that take him serious are the ones that get angry coz of his words ;)

I keep on checking his site, I think is funny, I think we should entice him to go over 14 now that dusty is already building one (a real one).
and it wouldn't kill us to leave nice comments to him just for the sake of comedy, I wouldn't like this guy dissapearing from youtube. :)

I admit, if it wasn't for him, I probably wouldn't be building my 14 string. If he's going to make a complete mockery of the craft we all love, why not try and do it right? Regardless, I hope he continues. When I watch that video I'm so embarassed for him that I want to hug him!

I told 13Strings about Dusty's 14 string bass....he never did respond, although, myspace said he opened my message.

hahhah, the poor fellow. But seriously, I don't even think the fellow plays bass...or anything, for that matter.

I am sure he cares less about Dusty's Aircraft =)
No offence

When I watch that video I'm so embarassed for him that I want to hug him!


HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA, oh damn, my lungs hurt like mad, awwww wow that is hilarious. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA a aaaaaahhhhh AAAAH hhh

This is the design of the Goliath, it appears at the end of the final video of the 13 string, I can't help admiring the lines and the not so oversized headstock:D
I honestly want this artwork to be build, maybe he can "change the world of bass" again.

This is the design of the Goliath, it appears at the end of the final video of the 13 string, I can't help admiring the lines and the not so oversized headstock:D
I honestly want this artwork to be build, maybe he can "change the world of bass" again.

Wow...what an ingenious fret position marker system... And I love the three bridge, three pick-up, three-ton headstock motif. Very nice. :rolleyes:

-Josh

here is a larger, and clearer image of the "Goliath"; taken from his freewebs site.

http://www.freewebs.com/13stringsmusic/GOLIATH.jpg

What if he is around here somewhere:hiding:

Now im scared

So the guy built a bass and blew his own horn, big deal. Anyone who knows anything about instrument building can tell right off that the bass is probably un-playable at the most. The only person he's fooling is himself and maybe a few people that lack the knowledge of how an instrument should be built. My point is I don’t think no one really takes him serious and those who do are for the most part just ignorant to the fact. I really don’t see the point in further bashing the guy, for the most part he's done that to himself already.......

Personally I think the more people that publically humiliate this clown the better. He seems to be trying to extort money from people for these ridiculous monstrosities. The more people that see how ridiculous the way he made that "bass" is the better. It will save some poor sucker out there a lot of trouble.

mind you if a poor sucker out there decides to learn how to play bass with 14 strings, he deserves to be called a poor sucker, and if someone who already plays bass decides to buy this piece of crap, he also deserves to be called a poor sucker, perhaps something a bit more vulgar. Anyone in their right mind would never consider buying these things after seeing a video of how they were built. Just look at the video editing.... the guy is definitely a poor sucker.

mind you if a poor sucker out there decides to learn how to play bass with 14 strings.

what irks me the most is that I'm getting the impression that he doesn't play any musical instrument, whatsoever.

I was checking this guys vids out on youtube yesterday.

I don't know anything about building instruments, but the lad seems a few sandwiches short of a picnic if you ask me...

I think he probably has some kind of clinical psychosis.

I think he probably has some kind of clinical psychosis.

maybe we should cut him some slack then :confused:

maybe we should cut him some slack then :confused:

Yeah... apperently hes got an alter ego called St-Jimmy.... go figure. My cousin is 29, never had a girlfriend, and tried to build a time machine for his TV, basically getting tv shows before they are even created... yea maybe we should cut him some slack.

Maybe we should just call the wagon to go get him.

BUMP ON THIS :) I've tried "reasoning" with him on his final video, but he keeps evading and running. How do you all feel about his new Goliath-project coming up soon?

Who cares? Don't give the troll any attention. Crooks do not deserve publicity.

Who cares? Don't give the troll any attention. Crooks do not deserve publicity.

Beautifully said. +1

Did anybody else notice all the misplaced apostrophes on that guy's website content? It's like every time he says something in plural he puts an apostrophe on it!

Did anybody else notice all the misplaced apostrophes on that guy's website content? It's like every time he says something in plural he puts an apostrophe on it!

more apostrophies - better tone!

:hiding:


R

Did anybody else notice all the misplaced apostrophes on that guy's website content? It's like every time he says something in plural he puts an apostrophe on it!

YES I HAVE ALSO OBSERVED THE GRATUITOUS USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS!!!

CHEERS MATE ROCK ON SLIPKNOT FOREVER

OH YES AND NO PUNCTUATION NECESSARY I'M BREAKING ALL THE RULES FTW!!!11

HHHHHHHHHA HHA HAHHA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!

Anyone check his myspace lately?

-no longer calls himself 13 strings
-no longer has pictures of his "super-bass"
-apparently, he's "Jim the Airbrush artist" now. He has pictures of airbrushed graphics, and pictures of him with a snare drum with flame graphics.

EPIC FAIL

Anyone check his myspace lately?



Could you please let me know what he calls himself on myspace - I've searched, but've come up with nothing. I need cheap entertainment!

Could you please let me know what he calls himself on myspace - I've searched, but've come up with nothing. I need cheap entertainment!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=204178133

I've since deleted him from my friends list, he was no longer amusing to me :smug:

Well at least I feel a bit better about his airbrushin than his bass building. His bass was totally horrible. Its crazy how some people like to 'create a false image' of themselves on the web. Its sick, insane.

I hear you on that one.

Too long and divergent, maybe I'll save my story for OT.

OT?

OT?

off topic area of talkbass. a most fun place.

Nope i have this guy beat. I photoshopped a 60th anniversary fender jazz bass

It is also available in lefthanded for an additional $60k

Nope i have this guy beat. I photoshopped a 60th anniversary fender jazz bass

It is also available in lefthanded for an additional $60k

I'd have to take out a loan, just to restring that monstrosity.

Just use the same string multiple times, like our friend Jimmy does. The monotone monstrosity!

Nope i have this guy beat. I photoshopped a 60th anniversary fender jazz bass

It is also available in lefthanded for an additional $60k

I'll take six!:hyper:







Seriously, this should be in off topic, nothing to do with lutherie or basses.

Just use the same string multiple times, like our friend Jimmy does. The monotone monstrosity!

lol correction, Jimmy's bass uses the gauges from B to G, and every intermediate string :smug:

Tuned in seconds, the last time I checked, lol! :hyper:

AIRBRUSH-JIM, The Airbrushinator

"I AM ALSO CURRENTLY LEARNING TO AIRBRUSH. I AM IN THE VERY BEGINING OF THIS VENTURE, BUT I'M DOING O.K. "

I don't know about you guys but I would expect an "airbrushinator" to not be a newbie. :confused:

Let's all watch him botch his way through another hobby. :rollno:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/philmailloux/AJ4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/philmailloux/AJ4.jpg

I'm willing to bet my subscription that this was made with office-max tape, and a Crayola "my first airbush kit" :p

I'm willing to bet my subscription that this was made with office-max tape, and a Crayola "my first airbush kit" :p

I just love the way his mask was cut so smoothly. Shows his attention to detail... just like when he built that wonderful bass :rolleyes:

HAHAHAHHAA The lack of respect we have is horrible, but its sooooo funny !!

HAHAHAHHAA The lack of respect we have is horrible, but its sooooo funny !!

When the guy tries to build a 13 string bass, lie about it, doesn't even use string gauges that make sense, and then goes to playing with an airbrush kit, I have a hard time finding anything left to respect :rolleyes:

The only thing funnier than this douche's bass is the person dumb enough to buy it.

/thread?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA come to think about, you guys are totally right. HAHAHAHHAAH yea well.... suddenly I feel good about myself.

HAHAHAHHAA The lack of respect we have is horrible, but its sooooo funny !!

Lol!! :hiding:

The only thing funnier than this douche's bass is the person dumb enough to buy it.

/thread?

And thats probably why nobody has bought the damn thing !! HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!

...and he got ya'll talking about him here on talkbass...;)

... but it's so funny ! here on talkbass, most of us seem to have a 'professional approach' to building basses, so when we see a guy building something with knotty pine and duct tape, it creates a riot ! hehehheh

honestly, if he sold it for as much as its worth (MAYBE $50-100, on the incredibly generous side) i'd like to take it, put cheap pups in it just to show why we dont make our basses out of duct-tape and pine, then burn it.

or if i did this it may wind up like the PMB 1000 and sound miraculous!

What if he is around here somewhere:hiding:

if he is then he will wake up one morning with his kneecap attached to his forhead and have a finger poking out his back

while i agree with the illegitimacy of the bass itself, people laughed at Anthony Jackson

now all of you funky bastards have 6 bangers

I remember this guy posting up a thing on youtube when he first started building his "bass". He had asked people to post up videos of their own homemade instruments up on youtube. A lot of people responded with a lot of interesting things. And I think that was a very cool thing that he brought to youTube... So I give him credit for that despite the silliness of whatever he claimed to have build (and refused to play for us and show that it might actually do anything other than nothing).

I just wish he would admit that the thing was unplayable.

while i agree with the illegitimacy of the bass itself, people laughed at Anthony Jackson

now all of you funky bastards have 6 bangers

You sayin maybe someday in the future, luthiers will have abondoned their clamps and use duct tape instead? pffffffff...hahahaha. Ill stay with Maple and clamps thank you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXS_84WCxAI

the 13 string super ass.

thats not a typo.

i mean ass.

not bass.

Seriously, giving this guy any credit at all is an insult to serious lutheirs like Jerzy Drodz or Bill Conklin even DustyG on here who are making real instruments that can be played and used. This guy is really making a mockery of luthiery all for the sake of a bit of attention. Which I guess he got. But please don't give him any credit for trying, he never tried to do anything other than get his online 15 minutes of fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXS_84WCxAI

the 13 string super ass.

thats not a typo.

i mean ass.

not bass.

As much as I agree with this video, it's annoying if not more annoying then the guy himself.

just check this, the guy is definitely multiskilled
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=245861392

I gotta see this bass

ok, I saw it
it's horrible

Yeesh. Looks like a 2X4 carved into a bass like looking object and spray painted with rattle can paint.

And he is proud of this? What's with the Alvin and the chipmunks voice?

Greg N

I think that's a satire of the original video...

Victor Wooten: "I really like to leave people do what ever they want".
just get over it, he wants a 14 string, let him have a 14 string guitar (why should i call it a bass?)
If he thinks that making a 13 (and now a 14) string instrument will make him feel better and more self confident, i wish him good luck. :)

What note would a 14 string add, a 13 already reaches all the notes of a grand piano and needs a subwoofer to hear the lowest note. It would prolly make all the dogs on the street go crazy when he played. lstm, it would be sweet to own a 13 string, but an 11 string seems like all anyone could wish for, they are cool.

Read the past page or so - he isn't tuning perfect fourths. This will let you get more strings on the instrument.

I think that's a satire of the original video...

OK. So I searched out the original. I think I like the satire one better.

Greg N

Read the past page or so - he isn't tuning perfect fourths. This will let you get more strings on the instrument.
He's not tuning at all. "Looks like an instrument" doesn't make it an instrument :)

O......k. So he went from building a piece of s*** with knotty pine and duct tape, then he was airbrushing, calling himself the 'Airbrushinator', and now he's cross stitching? I mean..... really? Cross stitching? This is definitely gonna be a weird day, probably some kind of message from the gods high above telling me not to drive or use a power tool. I really think we should close this thread and stop talking about this bloke, I do believe he is absolutely no threat to us luthiers who know better.

I'm sure that it's part if his parole mandate to keep busy, so I'd rather see him doing this than murdering and cannibalizing innocent children :eek:

I'm sure that it's part if his parole mandate to keep busy, so I'd rather see him doing this than murdering and cannibalizing innocent children :eek:

If he makes another bass, I'd rather see him cannibalizing children.

I really hate playing devil's advocate, and especially for such an ill conceived instrument receiving so much attention and being touted as something amazing and original, but...

How many people still have their first project when they knew nothing about building, had no equipment, and no reference material? I do, and my first attempt at guitar building turned out even worse than this bass. It's still hanging in my garage and it serves a pleasant reminder of where I started and just how far I've come with my building. Give this guy a router, an accurate ruler, and a good set of plans and I'll bet he could come up with something playable. At least he mostly completed the thing.

Of course, this 13-string object does deserve lots of ridicule. Making such claims when you have no experience and no credentials is just absurd. I say good job on the attempt, and boo on the self promotion.

If he makes another bass, I'd rather see him cannibalizing children.:p

:p

Seriously, that way, we don't have to hear about his cross-stitching either.

Wait till the nubcake cross-stitches a bass!

Hey, If he enjoys it and it makes him happy (some freakishly way), then by god, that's his happiness (BTW, i didn't see anything about him marketing it, at least that I've seen). I enjoyed making my PVC eub and took alot of pride in it, alot of people outside of TB heard about it, some of them said the same thing (I even had some TB'ers joke about doubling it as a potato gun:p, but i'm cool with that). Now, I'm not saying any diy is perfect or "luthier" quality either, however, No actual "Luthier" is born with their skills either (no matter how much of a "joke his build is), comes from a series of "success and failures" May be the on next one, he'll make a playable version. Funny thing is, maybe in 10 years or so, the same TB'ers that "look down their nose at it", may unknowingly buy an instrument from this guy;)

I do think he needs to quit skipping his meds though.

If you present your stuff with bravado and fan fare and/or claim to be the first to have done something, get ready to take some shots. If there had been an ounce of humility about this build the thread would have died off early if even started at all.

Imagine the encouragement the folks here would have given if the approach was "I really don't know much about instrument building but I am proud of having done this without any help."

I present again William Cumpiano's "A pedagog's lament." http://www.cumpiano.com/Home/Articles/Articles/pedagog.htm
A great read for anyone who aspires to anything worthy in life.

Greg N

Hey, If he enjoys it and it makes him happy (some freakishly way), then by god, that's his happiness (BTW, i didn't see anything about him marketing it, at least that I've seen). I enjoyed making my PVC eub and took alot of pride in it, alot of people outside of TB heard about it, some of them said the same thing (I even had some TB'ers joke about doubling it as a potato gun:p, but i'm cool with that). Now, I'm not saying any diy is perfect or "luthier" quality either, however, No actual "Luthier" is born with their skills either (no matter how much of a "joke his build is), comes from a series of "success and failures" May be the on next one, he'll make a playable version. Funny thing is, maybe in 10 years or so, the same TB'ers that "look down their nose at it", may unknowingly buy an instrument from this guy;)

I do think he needs to quit skipping his meds though.

IIRC, he did try to sell it, for £1000.

If you present your stuff with bravado and fan fare and/or claim to be the first to have done something, get ready to take some shots. If there had been an ounce of humility about this build the thread would have died off early if even started at all.

Yes, I agree, I stand corrected in that aspect.

Imagine the encouragement the folks here would have given if the approach was "I really don't know much about instrument building but I am proud of having done this without any help."

yes this too. Although i'm guilty of not stating in the beginning of my build thread that, "I really don't know much about instrument building", but fortunately the title started with "Attempting".

I present again William Cumpiano's "A pedagog's lament." http://www.cumpiano.com/Home/Articles/Articles/pedagog.htm
A great read for anyone who aspires to anything worthy in life.

HA HA, I love it! Very true.

IIRC, he did try to sell it, for £1000.

Ok, I stand corrected sir. 1000 euros, What!???

I remember the price being 400. And no, it did not sell.

Not 100% here, but I remember it being £1000, and would guess its GBP as he's in England.

"Update" on the "Goliath" project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrydTbpNPpY

Be strong, the news isn't that bad.:crying:

"Update" on the "Goliath" project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrydTbpNPpY

Update? You mean him talking about nothing for minutes.

Yeah, no pics no bass.

Is anybody hunting him?

Is anybody hunting him?

http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/cheney_gun.jpg

If you present your stuff with bravado and fan fare and/or claim to be the first to have done something, get ready to take some shots. If there had been an ounce of humility about this build the thread would have died off early if even started at all.

Imagine the encouragement the folks here would have given if the approach was "I really don't know much about instrument building but I am proud of having done this without any help."

I present again William Cumpiano's "A pedagog's lament." http://www.cumpiano.com/Home/Articles/Articles/pedagog.htm
A great read for anyone who aspires to anything worthy in life.

Greg N

I think you are missing the point. This guy's only motivation is to gain attention for himself and to attempt to extort money. He isn't trying to do anything maverick or innovative. The question of humility is null since the only motivation is to indulge himself in his Warholian 15 minutes of fame. Please don't lump this incompetent attention seeker in with people that are really working hard to do something of worth.

"Update" on the "Goliath" project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrydTbpNPpY



Looks like he's not going to build it. Phew! Dusty is safe once again

:D

Looks like he's not going to build it. Phew! Dusty is safe once again

:D

Dusty is safe from what? The satisfaction of knowing he made an actual instrument that works when it is done rather than making all kinds of idiotic claims about how he was the first to stick 14 strings to a piece of wood that you can't even play?

Really, don't even compare Dusty to that sad little man.

Do Keys boards in the UK not come with a "caps off button"? I'm not a fan of this guy. well no one is.

So has anyone considered the possibility that he is actually mentally handicapped?

while i agree with the illegitimacy of the bass itself, people laughed at Anthony Jackson

now all of you funky bastards have 6 bangers


The joke isn't the concept of a 13 string bass itself. It's the particular pos this guy created and how the way he tries to come off as some "innovative builder", when in reality he's made nothing but firewood to date.

So has anyone considered the possibility that he is actually mentally handicapped?

He is, he's got an alter-ego called St-Jimmy. Now im starting to believe that maybe im handicapped too, as I dont know why im aware of this Jimmy thing. As mentioned before, I think we should cut him some slack.

Really, don't even compare Dusty to that sad little man.

Ok I promise, as long as you put more effort into recognising when people are just goofing around, ie me

I don't know who his girlfriend is, but I would totally leave the guy. I wouldn't stick around and wait to get chopped up by 13string's alter ego.

The man is going to paint someone's car, I can't wait to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m86gyMD8TI

"Update" on the "Goliath" project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrydTbpNPpY

I think the comment about mental instability is likely spot on. What was all that babbling about anyway? And then he wants to show the world his appendectomy scar?

Greg N

You know, I haven't seen this video that you guys have been talking about, but I have seen a real 13 strings bass before... being played and everything. I just did a search and I can't find it any more though... however, I'm sure anyone can find that guy who plays mario and zelda on his 11 strings bass. So I guess it is not impossible to build a 13 strings bass, or 14 for that matter.
Whatever, why don't they just go play a piano?:eek:

Why does everybody get so inflamed about this guy? He made a claim; it's obvious BS; all this complaining has put more energy behind his claim than he did.

You know, I haven't seen this video that you guys have been talking about, but I have seen a real 13 strings bass before... being played and everything. I just did a search and I can't find it any more though... however, I'm sure anyone can find that guy who plays mario and zelda on his 11 strings bass. So I guess it is not impossible to build a 13 strings bass, or 14 for that matter.
Whatever, why don't they just go play a piano?:eek:

That would be Jean Baudin, a gentleman and scholar. He also a TB'er too.

When people get hight, they do a lot of stupid things: a 13 string bass, a 14 string bass, a XX string bass. Who cares? Let him play this ugly useless oar. :P

I was thinking of making a video compilation of his "errr"'s. Any suggestions as to what software to use?

If it's an .avi format file you can use Windos Movie Maker. Fast & easy! ;)

Yeah thanks but I can't find it (or anything else) in my new Vista :)

So, does that mean that the guy was actually serious? I saw this some months ago and I was convinced it was supposed to be a joke.

hahahahah! i was going to suggest that we all pool money to coax wilser into building a 40" 20 string. he could put legs on the back and it could double as a coffee table.

i tried to give this kid the benefit of the doubt at first, but i dont think that a pickup ever existed. i think he just poked some wires from an old remote control car into the cavity. and the duct tape was hillarious.:help:

well, how much do Jackson pollock's paintings go for?

maybe it would make a good piece of wall art...


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