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RRuud
11-10-2007, 05:28 AM
Hello all,
I'm back again to use your wisdom;)...
Last saturday I went looking for a nice wah pedal to gone with my dieseldawg.. I tried a few but the one that really stood out in terms of sound was the Dunlop 105Q Bass Wah..

Now the problem is: the way the 105Q works... I dont like the fact that is doesn't have a switch to turn it on and as a result of the system their using having to wait for the wah to turn off and the 2nd problem is a smaller one, the spring that brings the pedal heel down automaticly...

So my question is:
Does anyone know a wah that has some of the same sounds as the 105Q but features a switch and unspringed "footcontroller"?

Thanks alot:)

eyvindwa
11-10-2007, 05:53 AM
I haven't heard the 105Q, but my Ibanez Weeping Demon has lots of tweakability sound-wise, and you can turn the auto-engage on or off, and the spring as well. I like mine a lot, perhaps you should try one out.

assboglin
11-10-2007, 01:27 PM
There are other wahs you could try, like the EBS Wah One if you haven't already, but if you want the sound of a 105Q I think it would be possible to modify the pedal for switch operation.

selfblessed
11-10-2007, 01:40 PM
I thought about modifying my once. Not sure how to approach it though. I have just learned to deal with the spring the way it is.
I have heard that there is a way to adjust the shut off switch. There is a small adjustable trim pot that you can adjust to make it shut off faster. I do not know the specifics of where it is though. Hopefully someone can shed some light on that.

assboglin
11-10-2007, 02:56 PM
You need to pull off the bottom plate and it should be below where the battery is held if I remember correctly. Turn it counter clockwise to set it off, ie: no delay in pedal shut off time. You may need a small screwdriver to do this depending on what model you have, and the oldest ones don't have a trimpot so you have to pull out a set resistor value.

Swimming Bird
11-11-2007, 08:47 AM
If you put the shut-off time at zero and remove the spring, you should be more or less golden. Of course it'll engage if it gets accidentally touched.

Geddyfleaharris
11-11-2007, 10:21 AM
I haven't heard the 105Q, but my Ibanez Weeping Demon has lots of tweakability sound-wise, and you can turn the auto-engage on or off, and the spring as well. I like mine a lot, perhaps you should try one out.

+1 to the Weeping Demon. I have the WD and the 105Q. The WD is the one that is on my pedal board. I found the 105Q "Q" setting to be useless IMO because there was only 1 setting that I really liked. The WD is very tweakable and very affordable.

selfblessed
11-11-2007, 01:07 PM
Would that "Q" setting be maxed out? :)
I am going to try that trimpot thing. I really like the 105q. I have gotten over the spring deal. I like the way it interacts with my dirty channel on my amp.

Sean S
11-12-2007, 03:23 AM
You need to pull off the bottom plate and it should be below where the battery is held if

Right. It's close to the heel of the pedal, just for clarification.

selfblessed
11-12-2007, 10:19 AM
Alright cool. I just made a mounting plate for my 105q and I saw that when I was using the bottom plate as a template.

RRuud
11-12-2007, 05:31 PM
Thanks for the help guys:)..
I was indeed thinking about modding the 105...

But is does sound like I might have to try that weeping demon.
Tweakability = Awesomeness:bassist:

Thanks again... I'll let you all know what i end up doing..

Sir Edward V
11-12-2007, 06:44 PM
Don't let the control system of the 105Q be a detriment if you like the sound of it. I know how to modify it so it is identical to any other wah.

I think I have written out the process before on here... I'll go look for it... but it really isn't very hard if you have any electrical experience. Or if you don't I could do the modifications for you for a small fee... or even better for you (money wise) is you could get someone you know to do it for you.

Here you go:

Yeah, I was examining my 105Q a few weeks ago and it seams it really isn't switchless (go figure, it has to turn on somehow right?). Turns out there is a tiny momentary switch on the heel that gets pressed by a little rubber knubby thing. So the switch is connected when the heel is down making it in bypass mode, then when you start moving it, the switch is released and that circuit is left open so the effect turns on.

So to change it to a stomp-style switch on the toe, all you have to do is get a SPST switch and attach a pole in place of the poles on the momentary switch. I don't know about everyone else's 105Q, but mine even has the hole drilled out for me... it is filled in with some black plastic piece.

you can even make it true bypass with a 3PDT, one pole is used to turn the effect on/off, then the other two used for the TB. or you could make it TB with a DPDT then make it so the effect is always on

Then you can get rid of the pieces that make the toe automatically go up as well. How that works is there is just a piece of curved metal going from the heel to halfway up the toe, you can take it out with a socket wrench and a screwdriver.

so yeah, not too complicated, and no drilling! If I didn't love the "switchless" feature, I would do it myself!

Its not really the best explanation in the world, but I can explain it better if you are interested.