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beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 11:07 AM
a few months back i hooked up with this singer who had a manager and she had some songs recorded and even had a cd recorded. so we spent a month or two learning the songs and practicing them. and on the night of our first gig she gets sick... AND DRUNK

dont know which came first... but she showed up to the gig an hour and a half late on top of being drunk and sick, and was stuborn as hell on top of it, wouldnt listen to us telling her to not perform. but... she did anyway, well, the gig was being taped.

and upuntil now i respected her enough to not show the tape, but shes been a complete flake and doesnt deserve that much respect when she didnt respect the band enough. (i know two wrongs dont make a right, but she has it coming to her heh. and ontop of the stories i could tell, she completely dissapeared on the band like 5 months back)

so.... she shows up late, and then decides the first song she wants to do is this trance type song she had recorded and was just going to sing over it while we did some back up garbage,

so at that point we had been set up and warmed up for 2 hours and now we arent even really playing... after she bombed on that she left the stage to take another drink... the DJ put on some chilli peppers and the club owner guy told us to just jam around to it. then she got back on the stage and we went into the second song which is an actual song where we all play, and she completely bombs again, and its probably too dark in the video but later on you see her grab onto my arm to keep herself up....


and here we go with the videos....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=554-HV3rhrY her singing to the back up track while we garbage around...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CHPFy9Vjdis us screwing around to chilli peppers then her coming back on for our song


but anyway... have you guys got any disasters taped you are willing to share?

lamarjones
11-13-2007, 11:17 AM
SUBSCRIBED

Not NEARLY as self inflicted, one of my earliest gigs in high school, guitar string breaks, he goes on, drum stool breaks, trumpet case is used, kick pedal breaks, just kick the freakin bass drum, something on the guitar breaks, and tuneability is WAY out of what, and I am playing punk in a button up shirt tucked in. Morons, all of us.

I have no idea where that tape was, but man it was tough to watch.

bluestarbass
11-13-2007, 11:28 AM
Oh man i really really wanna see this. I find that female singer, and hold on cuz im gonna generalize, are either super cool or head cases. I play with my roomate alot who is an incredible singer, and couldnt be more down to earth. Ive also played with female artists who couldnt tune their own guitar and were super demandy. Your situation is an unfortunate one. Look at it this way, youll have a great story to tell forever.

beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 11:32 AM
ok links up

EddieN
11-13-2007, 11:38 AM
I have no idea where that tape was, but man it was tough to watch.

Heh, just today I got an email from a pal saying he obtained a gig video from 1984 of a punk band I was in. Asked me if I wanted a copy & I say sure, I'd never seen it. I then realized it was the show where I accidentally ripped the crotch outta my pants & I was, er-uh, going commando. I'm sure nothing went floppin' out or whatever but still, don't think I wanna see it afterall.

beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 11:41 AM
lol, watch it, censor it, and post it :)

lamarjones
11-13-2007, 11:47 AM
you know......

she doesn't sound so bad in the first track. She is STRUGGLING on the chorus of the second track, other than that might be just my in my office listening, but not as bad as could have been. Not sure that band was completely tight in the second one either.

Personally, I am not to sure I'd be posting that vid with that title, a little vindicitive imo. I'd just move on if it wasn't my thing.

That said, that is a SWEET stage!

Eric618
11-13-2007, 11:55 AM
you know......

she doesn't sound so bad in the first track. She is STRUGGLING on the chorus of the second track, other than that might be just my in my office listening, but not as bad as could have been. Not sure that band was completely tight in the second one either.

Personally, I am not to sure I'd be posting that vid with that title, a little vindicitive imo. I'd just move on if it wasn't my thing.

That said, that is a SWEET stage!I'd agree with all of the above.

EddieN
11-13-2007, 11:55 AM
lol, watch it, censor it, and post it :)

Hahaha! HELL naw! Always wear your underpants, kids.

Smallmouth_Bass
11-13-2007, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I have to say the whole band was pretty bad. There's still no excuse for getting drunk before a gig.

lamarjones
11-13-2007, 12:02 PM
I did a gig with a guy who lost his voice, earlier that day we did a gig outside and it was COLD and he was a smoker, and I don't think that worked very well together.

So here I am thinking that we might have to cover for him a little bit, but halfway through first set, he tells us to sit out and he does a solo rendition of Springsteen's Thunder Road. i could have sworn this guy was singing it...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/77/222px-Squeaky_Voiced_Teen.png

Blake Bass
11-13-2007, 12:19 PM
Veronica isn't the only one who needs help!

beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 12:23 PM
heh yea, i know im calling the kettle black, but after the way she treated us before we went on and in the past weeks, we didnt care too much about being there, the crowed wasnt even that interested in us anyway, they were a bunch of 12 year old "gangstas" who cam to teh club for the money drop. it was a teen night heh.


but its like, she would hit these high and intense notes and then at the gig she would dumb things down and then when she stumbeled around it kinda turned all of us from being there....

thesteve
11-13-2007, 12:28 PM
I checked out her website...hard to tell she was a vocalist...looked more like a fashion tramp.

morf
11-13-2007, 12:29 PM
a few months back i hooked up with this singer who had a manager and she had some songs recorded and even had a cd recorded. so we spent a month or two learning the songs and practicing them. and on the night of our first gig she gets sick... AND DRUNK

dont know which came first... but she showed up to the gig an hour and a half late on top of being drunk and sick, and was stuborn as hell on top of it, wouldnt listen to us telling her to not perform. but... she did anyway, well, the gig was being taped.

and upuntil now i respected her enough to not show the tape, but shes been a complete flake and doesnt deserve that much respect when she didnt respect the band enough. (i know two wrongs dont make a right, but she has it coming to her heh. and ontop of the stories i could tell, she completely dissapeared on the band like 5 months back)

so.... she shows up late, and then decides the first song she wants to do is this trance type song she had recorded and was just going to sing over it while we did some back up garbage,

so at that point we had been set up and warmed up for 2 hours and now we arent even really playing... after she bombed on that she left the stage to take another drink... the DJ put on some chilli peppers and the club owner guy told us to just jam around to it. then she got back on the stage and we went into the second song which is an actual song where we all play, and she completely bombs again, and its probably too dark in the video but later on you see her grab onto my arm to keep herself up....


and here we go with the videos....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=554-HV3rhrY her singing to the back up track while we garbage around...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CHPFy9Vjdis us screwing around to chilli peppers then her coming back on for our song


but anyway... have you guys got any disasters taped you are willing to share?

What she did might have been uncool, but she's far from being the worst performer on that stage imo...

Craig Garfinkel
11-13-2007, 12:46 PM
Yes she was drunk, and yes she was bad. But what excuse do the rest of you cats have?

I'm sorry to be so harsh, but hopefully you'll take this as constructively harsh from someone with quite a bit of professional experience, some of that experience (thankfully very little) playing with people who had no business being on any stage at any place or at any time.

It was immature of you to post that video on YouTube. Immature and unprofessional. You haven't done yourself or your bandmates any favors by posting that crap either, although you conveniently afforded yourself complete anonymity while naming the singer. It is the personal responsibility of any musician to show up for any gig prepared, rehearsed and ready to bring their "A" game. If you guys had it together what should have happened was a tight performance by the band behind a drunk who couldn't sing in tune, instead of a complete and total train wreck.

Everybody screws up. Nobody deserves to have their screw-ups displayed where they were not intended to be seen.

Again I am sorry to be so harsh with you, but it disturbs me that you posted that for the world to see.

jomahu
11-13-2007, 12:52 PM
^^ hear hear.

being a musican is one thing. being a professional is another. and there have been two people here on TB who have gotten fired for posting stuff about their band on the internet.

poor taste, dood.

basswave
11-13-2007, 12:59 PM
Show her the vids and ask her is this acceptable and is this an acceptable level of performance of where she expects the band to be.

Put the judgment level on her.

NoobBassist
11-13-2007, 01:11 PM
well whateva... shes quite HOT... hmmm

KeithPas
11-13-2007, 01:15 PM
I did a gig with a singer/songwriter, learned his material from a CD and he proceeded to do the entire gig literally making up tunes on the fly, words and all. I think I went through two sweat towels before that gig was over. Thank God it was'nt recorded.

higgi
11-13-2007, 01:46 PM
On the related links check out "Tribute to Veronica Zemanova"

Thanks for the link! I have never heard of her before but I am a fan now.

MichaelScott
11-13-2007, 01:49 PM
I only have 3 things to add to this thread.

1) She is pretty hawt. I like the chicks that look kinda slutty.
2) She definitely can't sing when she is drunk.
3) This thread is awesome.

need4mospd
11-13-2007, 02:02 PM
What she did might have been uncool, but she's far from being the worst performer on that stage imo...

+1

I'd also add, I've seen worse.

netbot
11-13-2007, 02:17 PM
sorry to say this but IMO the band is bad too...

newfuture
11-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Immature and unprofessional.

+1.

It's a small world, and this sort of nonsense ain't gonna help you in the long run; I'd take it down if I were you.

And having checked out her site, I'd venture to guess her actual singing ability is irrelevant to her eventual professional successes / failures.

xxpigxx
11-13-2007, 03:26 PM
+1

I'd also add, I've seen worse.

+1

Those who said she was hot . . . I can't see her. The screen is too dark

:(

thesteve
11-13-2007, 03:31 PM
+1

Those who said she was hot . . . I can't see her. The screen is too dark

:(http://veronicavoss.com/

she's attractive in a fake and plastic sort of way.

gdawg27
11-13-2007, 03:33 PM
sorry to say this but IMO the band is bad too...

+1

Yes they are. A complete train wreck.

need4mospd
11-13-2007, 03:57 PM
http://veronicavoss.com/

she's attractive in a fake and plastic sort of way.

She's attractive in a "I'm pretty sure I'm gonna catch something if I hit this" sort of way. A level of slutty that lies between Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, with a touch of Jenna Jameson.

So yeah, I'd totally do stuff to her. :D

seventhson
11-13-2007, 03:58 PM
man she's hot. i'd stay in that gig just for the remote possibility of hitting it.

infamousxtopher
11-13-2007, 03:58 PM
no offense but her singing is acutally one of the best parts of that video, you should really take that down. not cool to dis musicians you play with on a public forum, but professional and be the bigger man.

thesteve
11-13-2007, 04:03 PM
She's attractive in a "I'm pretty sure I'm gonna catch something if I hit this" sort of way.isn't that pretty much the same thing?

gkbass13
11-13-2007, 04:25 PM
her page isnt opening for me....either way, those clips were terrible and if i were you i would take it down.

i think its a bad sign when a club owner turns on some chilli peppers and tells you to noodle around to it as if you are incapable or producing naythign listenable on your own...

lowendgenerator
11-13-2007, 04:30 PM
LOL 6 minutes of a band jerking off on stage to an RHCP song and you post it on youtube complaining about the singer? Not very professional. Also, the band kinda sucked, just a little.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb316/Snaileb/fail.jpg

Eric618
11-13-2007, 04:35 PM
http://veronicavoss.com/

she's attractive in a fake and plastic sort of way.Yeowza! I hit that silly!!! ;)

roflol
11-13-2007, 04:36 PM
haha you guys sucked was it you or the guitarist whos out of tune? the singers fairly decent considering shes smashed tbh also jeez the drummer sucks lol at him not being able to keep a steady tempo and going out of time with the recording of the chilli peppers

prattguy
11-13-2007, 04:40 PM
Bashing on the singer, the thread starter opened a Pandoraīs Box and the crapstorm is ON the band TOO....that "SLAP" thing....Cīmon, TERRIBLE!!!

lowendgenerator
11-13-2007, 04:42 PM
Oooh the site is responding now. I would let her get up on my stage and caterwaul her drunk little heart out. You probably just blew whatever chance you had of riding her coattails. GG.

dvh
11-13-2007, 04:52 PM
Agree with all that's been said. The whole thing is very lame.

Surely not the same band behind her on the clips on her web site. Still not really my cup of tea but at least listenable.

csala
11-13-2007, 04:53 PM
Veronica Voss has quite a few new fans.

Thangfish
11-13-2007, 04:54 PM
[snip]- the DJ put on some chilli peppers and the club owner guy told us to just jam around to it. -[snip]

Wow... what are you, 12 years old?

She's hot... and sucks.

You guys just suck.

She wins.

need4mospd
11-13-2007, 04:57 PM
isn't that pretty much the same thing?

Just a clarification. :D

Stein
11-13-2007, 05:11 PM
Wow... what are you, 12 years old?

She's hot... and sucks.

You guys just suck.

She wins.
Word!
I would take the vids down ASAP! First of, the band sucked way more than her. (Sorry, but I think you need to hear it)
Second, posting videos of her on youtube is NOT the way to handle this. You're just making a fool of yourself. And third, a professional band would have played so tight that NO ONE would care if she sang out of tune!

PS: She's hot! A drunk-ass rock star wannabe, HOT!!! ;)

BigOleBoogie
11-13-2007, 05:15 PM
As soon as you stopped trying to play to the trance and crossed your arms in the first vid I moved on to the second. As soon as I couldn't hear you actually attempt a wank at Californiacation I fast forwarded to when the band was actually playing. I then, was disappointed at what I heard.

Something I'm working on myself with my current band with my mouthing off (it will eventually cost me my position.....I'm working on finding a job so I can leave but want to on my own terms) it shows bad character in those of us that do things like this more than what we say to show in the faults of others.

I've been reading some stuff on Vic Wooten's site knowing his philosophies on life are just as wonderful and sometimes more useful as his playing as it applies to all areas in life. The most recent reading from his site was this:


The Test of Three

In ancient Greece, Socrates (469 - 399 BC) was widely lauded for his
wisdom.

One day the great philosopher came upon an acquaintance who ran up to
him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about
one of your students?"

"Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell me I'd like you to
pass a little test. It's called the Test of Three."

"Three?"

"That's right, Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my
student let's take a moment to test what you're going to say. The first
test is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to
tell me is true?"

No," the man said, "actually I just heard about it." "All right," said
Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or not.

Now let's try the second test, the test of Goodness. Is what you are
about to tell me about my student something good?"

"No, on the contrary..."

"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him
even though you're not certain it's true?"

The man shrugged, a little embarrassed.

Socrates continued. "You may still pass though, because there is a third
test - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me about my
student going to be useful to me?"

No, not really..."

"Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither True
nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me at all?"

The man was defeated and ashamed.



What you posted wasn't useful nor was it good.

manwiththedogs
11-13-2007, 05:23 PM
Maybe not the best singer I've heard...certainly not the worst, but sick and drunk combined with an obvious case of the nerves will do that to people.
Sorry, but this smells like sour grapes to me:hmm:

need4mospd
11-13-2007, 05:25 PM
What you posted wasn't useful...

Tell that to Veronica's new TB fans...

manwiththedogs
11-13-2007, 05:31 PM
Tell that to Veronica's new TB fans...
LMAO!!!
No such thing as bad publicity;)

BigOleBoogie
11-13-2007, 05:51 PM
Tell that to Veronica's new TB fans...

Well, to the OP, I bet her website has seen a spike ....wait, I bet the OP is her manager....:eyebrow:

I need to make some calls and buy a camera.....and a 5th of Jack

capnsandwich
11-13-2007, 05:54 PM
the singer wasn't the issue. the drummer was. a good drummer can make a bad band ok but a bad one can kill everything. by the way, tell the guitarist to get a tuner.

beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 06:13 PM
well after reading the first couple responses, i took the videos down. not because the rest of o us sucked too, but because the respect your fellow musician thing. guess i was just pissed cuz she flaked out on all of us and then completely ignored me in the street the other day.

Bass Mule
11-13-2007, 06:14 PM
Subscribed. I would agree with everyone who stated that the band wasn't very tight.

Bass Mule
11-13-2007, 06:17 PM
well after reading the first couple responses, i took the videos down. not because the rest of o us sucked too, but because the respect your fellow musician thing. guess i was just pissed cuz she flaked out on all of us and then completely ignored me in the street the other day.

You're young. Try to learn something positive from this experience (the botched gig as well as the reaction from your fello TBers after you chose to post the vids).

KeithPas
11-13-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeowza! I hit that silly!!! ;)


Your damn skippy!!! She fine!!!

phsycobass
11-13-2007, 08:24 PM
to the OP
- yes you made mistake posting this
- i'm sure you feel like a bit of an arse

to my fellow TBers
-We have all made mistakes haven't we?
-I think this fellow has learned a lesson
-I think What he did was wrong but now I think he deserves a word of forgiveness from us for our (nessecary at the time) harshness.

To the OP
- I hope you learn a lesson
- I think you owe your singer an apology
-Sorry for my fellow TBer's harshness but it was needed to get the point across(i'm sure you understand)


so lets end the negativeness of this thread right here;):hiding:




:bassist::bassist::bassist:

Prader Willi
11-13-2007, 08:26 PM
where are teh videos? i wannt to see thsi hot bassplayer

funkydanbass
11-13-2007, 09:27 PM
Damn vidoes have been removed....

I think someone might have taken a reality check in professionalism.

Don't know what OP was trying to achieve anyway...

NorCal Dog
11-13-2007, 09:53 PM
ya,,, i wanna see this hot drunk beeotch :hyper:

xshawnxearthx
11-13-2007, 10:03 PM
THREAD SENT!

NorCal Dog
11-13-2007, 10:31 PM
OMG,,,,, nevermind,,, delete it

beyondhairy
11-13-2007, 11:23 PM
THREAD SENT!

OMG,,,,, nevermind,,, delete it

sent where and delete what?

morf
11-14-2007, 02:11 AM
the singer wasn't the issue. the drummer was. a good drummer can make a bad band ok but a bad one can kill everything. by the way, tell the guitarist to get a tuner.

+1.