Ok just a curiosity question. I have a Roscoe SKB 3005 (5316), a markbass LMII, and currently two aguilar GS112s. I am looking for new portable cab(s) to replace the GS112s, but I want them to handle the Roscoe low b. The low b is so strong, and others have commented that they have to adjust playing style on the low B (on Roscoe) so they don't fart out or tweak there cabs. I am not talking with the bass boosted either, I am talking flat EQ. Anyway the GS112 sound great, but are a little to midscooped for me. So what other cabs have Roscoe five string users had success with?

I use an EA 210NL. GREAT B, not farty at all.

Bergantino. They were made for the Roscoe B IMO.

I'm using an Eden WT-550 pushing an Eden D-210MBX (monitor wedge style XLT cab) and for projection off stage an Epifani UL-310 Series II.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE my Epi cab, and eventually will be replacing my Eden 210 with another one.

:)

Kinda what I thought so far. Epi or Berg is where I think I am headed. The GS 112s have alot of booty, but mid scooped (can be addressed with a little eq) and don't have the punch of the UL310. Another TBer (Vic) and I A/B'd the aggies with both a SeriesI and series II UL310. Really gassin for the SI UL310 to go with my Roscoe 5 and soon to be here Skjold CS4.

I am using a AMPEG SVT4 Pro pushing 2-GS112 Aggie cabs and 1-HT210 Berg.

2x Berg 112 is my rig of choice. I love those cabs, and they handle the Roscoes very well. If you find the Aguilars too scooped, I think you'll appreciate the mids from the Bergs too.

I have an assortment of SWR, Accugroove, and Epifani cabs for customes to play through at Blueberry Hill. They're all slightly different, but are all quality cabs.

If portability with good sound are what you're after then I second Jeff's recommendation of the the Berg HT-112's. I also highly favor the Epi UL-112's. The Epi's have more lows and cleaner highs while the Bergs are med frequency monsters. Both really pump out some nice loud, clean and tight volume though.

If portability isn't an issue, then go with Gard's recommendation. The Epi UL-310 and 410 cabinets are just plain awesome!:bassist:

I was really surprised when I picked up Gard's Epiphani. Has to be the lighest cabinet. I use the GS112 cabs because I like the mid-scoop. I have always liked my tone on the clean side. The aggie cabs pair up well with my svt4. Get this, for a typical gig I can put one of the 12s in the trunk of my Mustang along with my amp, the second 12 can sit in the passenger seat, my accessory bag and Roscoe in the back seat. I will swap out one of the 12s and take my Berg 2-10 instead and yes, the berg fits on my front seat as well. :bassist:

I would still consider the Epi UL310 pretty portable. I was really more concerned with weight than size. Don't really care for lugging a 100lb 4X10 cab around. Did that with a bag end for awhile and don't care to agian, if I can get something that can handle the Roscoe low end at less weight. I'm sure the bergs would be great, but they are heavy. I think I am going to pick up a UL310 or Ul410.

If portability isn't an issue, then go with Gard's recommendation. The Epi UL-310 and 410 cabinets are just plain awesome!:bassist:

Man, portability with the UL 310 is not an issue at all, it's lighter than any standard 210 I've ever seen/lifted, and probably not much different than any standard 112 cab! It's just amazingly light....

I'm running an SWR Bass 350 through a Dr. Bass BL115. Kiiiiillin' tone.

Man, portability with the UL 310 is not an issue at all, it's lighter than any standard 210 I've ever seen/lifted, and probably not much different than any standard 112 cab! It's just amazingly light....

Good point. I forget sometimes that those bad boys only weigh 47lbs.

I don't know what portable means to most of you, but I think more of traveling to gigs on public transit, etc.

The UL310 is plenty portable if you're speaking of easy to lift in and out of your car at the door of the venue, but if walking any distance is in order it doesn't really fit the bill. Even my Berg 112s are too much for me to consider them really portable, but the nearest substitute for some weight savings (Epi UL112) doesn't deliver the same tone. The Epi is nice, but a different flavour that keeps the Bergs safe with me.

I don't know what portable means to most of you, but I think more of traveling to gigs on public transit, etc.

The UL310 is plenty portable if you're speaking of easy to lift in and out of your car at the door of the venue, but if walking any distance is in order it doesn't really fit the bill. Even my Berg 112s are too much for me to consider them really portable, but the nearest substitute for some weight savings (Epi UL112) doesn't deliver the same tone. The Epi is nice, but a different flavour that keeps the Bergs safe with me.

Good point Jeff. If I had to travel to gigs via public transit I couldn't lug around a 47lb. cabinet.

On the subject of the Berg, While I really miss having a Berg HT112, I really like the fuller sound of the Epi UL-112. It has much more open & full lows and a little sweeter highs (certainly more sizzle). The Berg's lows can be a bit compressed sounding and the highs a bit bland. On the plus side though the more compressed lows cetainly keep the sound tight and focused. Both great cabinets!

Bergs! EA Cxl112 can handle the lows even with the low button pushed on the iAMP800. That's a lot of lows. You will appreciate how much more mid info and top on the lows you will experience when you switch from the GS112s. IMHO they have a sweet motown old school rock sound built in but are kinda stuck there. They would allow me to play a Fender bass with little eq on any head and the thickness would be there. Great for that niche. Your Roscoe however can sound like heaven. It has sounds you haven't heard yet:)

Well, I agree on the whole aggie thing. It sounds good, but mid scooped. I have heard my roscoe thru other cabs just not that many. I A/B'd the epifani S1 and S2 with the aggies with help of TBer Vic. We used his LMII and My roscoe along with about 10 other high end basses. Where the Roscoe really shines is at church thru the subs. We play DI with in-ears, but have a great system (wish they would really turn the bass up). Anyway the subs can really handle the low b and hence the reason for the post. TO ask other roscoe users what cabs can handle the lows, but not as midscooped as the aggies.

Hello,
I'm using a Eden WT550 with a 410XLT. Aside the weight (!) I'm super happy with the sound!

M

+1 on the NL210, I'm loving that cab.

I'm kinda surprised to hear people keep mentioning the Berg mini stack (ht112 & ex112), only because if you're talking about "especially the low B", IME, and from what I've heard from BMS owners, that setup, while sounding phenomenal, doesn't seem to really excel with the low B. I know some other Berg cabs do, but I thought that setup was a little weak in the low B dept. I hope you all don't jump on my for this opinion, but after all, this was what I heard, and feedback continue to hear from other BMS owners that I know.

For good lightweight cabs that really handle the Low B well, IMO, I would vote for the Epi 112, Accugroove tri112, EA NL210. Oh, and Gards rig really does sound pretty dope, the Eden 550 with a UL310S2. I was pretty impressed, especially with the low B!

+1 on the NL210, I'm loving that cab.

I'm kinda surprised to hear people keep mentioning the Berg mini stack (ht112 & ex112), only because if you're talking about "especially the low B", IME, and from what I've heard from BMS owners, that setup, while sounding phenomenal, doesn't seem to really excel with the low B. I know some other Berg cabs do, but I thought that setup was a little weak in the low B dept. I hope you all don't jump on my for this opinion, but after all, this was what I heard, and feedback continue to hear from other BMS owners that I know.


I'm in no way trying to "jump on your opinion" Jake :) but some players I suppose really lilke the huge open sounding low B and may find the Berg HT112 somewhat lacking in lows (which is actually the reason I switched from the Berg to the Epi UL-112).
However, for those that prefer a more even sounding low B (as compared to the "E" and "A" strings) the slightly compressed lows characteristic of the Berg HT-112 actually helps even out the sound of the Roscoe low "B". It really produces a nice tight and punchy low end tone.

....of course this too is just my opinion.;)

Another +1 for the EA NL210. I've got mine stacked on top of a CXL 112L and have been very happy with the sound. :)

The B response from the BMS is excellent by my standards. They do have a tight low end, but in my books that's a good thing. Massive sounding cabs get out of hand very quickly in a mix.

Just scored a brand new UL310 S2 for $779 plus shipping. The music store offered the wrong price to me, but stood behind the quote. Should have been in the $879 range.

Score:cool::bassist::D

Just scored a brand new UL310 S2 for $779 plus shipping. The music store offered the wrong price to me, but stood behind the quote. Should have been in the $879 range.

Score:cool::bassist::D

Awesome cabinet and price! I bet that you're going to really love it!

Roscoe SKB 3005 > Markbass LMII > Epifani UL310 :D. I am moving my family in a week or two so this means new church. I would like to use this as onstage monitors for awhile:bassist:

Hello,

For my cab, it is a Glockenklang Quatro 4x10" and it realy handles the low B with ease and autority. It goes down to 36hz and you can truely feel it.
:)

Only drawback, its weight. 37kg is not so heavy for a 4x10" but it is more than I can carry in the stairs.

Regards

Any experience with the Aggie DB112 stack?

Haven't tried the DB112 stack, but the GS112 could handle the low B, but it was mid shy. Hopefully, for me, the Epi UL310 is the answer.

Another happy NL210 user here.
I never get tired of that solid sound.

using a Shro 210212L. You would think that if anything could handle it well a large cab like this would, but I find it to be a little farty/floppy sounding esp compared to the E string.

A little disapointed in the super hyped Roscoe B string.

but maybe its the player....

Groove, I've played Roscoes through several different amps over the years, here is a list of cabs that have handled the B string without breaking a sweat:

Epifani 210, 310, 410
Bergantino 210, 310, 322
Eden 210XLT & XST, 410XLT, & XST
Aguilar DB210, DB212, DB410
Phil Jones Bass Briefcase (the "test rig" here at the shop!)

Sorry to hear your Schroder isn't holding up...:hmm:

My list:
SWR BBII studio and live large and small gigs.
SWR GIII w/ Bass 750 1 or 2 cabs inside and out.
SWR GJr.
SWR Goliath II Jr.
SWR LA-8 :)
Aguilar GS112 not my fave but could do it up to the highend of mediim volume situations.
EA Cxl112 great combination. 1 or 2.
IP 310 !
IP 212 !
IP 153 !
Some large, beat, Peavey 1x15 combo took a lickin' and came back tickin'. Actually sounded good in that setting.
Roscoe with Ag pres. Big Earth moving bottom. My conclusion? The greatest B there is. Dial back the lows on the head. Don't blame the bass and probably not the cab unless it's been way stessed.

I use either a Bergantino HT322 or an Epifani UL2-410 with my SKB3005. Both are fantastic but have different voicing. The Berg is slightly more open and even; with an almost studio monitor accuracy but not at all sterile. The Epifani has a slightly thicker, darker sound with a little more punch. Both cabs are very articulate with solid lows (great low B) and seamless musical highs. They work best with amps having a good amount of headroom (500W+). My favorite Roscoe sound is:
SKB3005 => Demeter HBP-1 => Crest CA9 => Berg HT322 (2)
My lighter rig which is much more portable is:
SKB3005 => Eden WT800B => Epifani UL2-410
The Berg is rated at 800W but weighs 95 pounds. The Epi UL2-410 only weighs 57 pounds but handles 1000W! With castors and a head on top this is a light single trip load. There are lots of good choices but these two are my personal favorites. :p

To groovejam regarding the Shro 210212L - this cab can handle huge amounts of power and should be able to handle extended lows with ease. I would bet that the amp you were using was not up to the task. A high powered amp with the pre not overdriven and available headroom should provide very solid lows with no fart out.

Groove, I've played Roscoes through several different amps over the years, here is a list of cabs that have handled the B string without breaking a sweat:
Aguilar DB210, DB212, DB410


Are you refering to a DB112 stack? If so, how did it compare to the others listed?

+1 on the NL210, I'm loving that cab.

I'm kinda surprised to hear people keep mentioning the Berg mini stack (ht112 & ex112), only because if you're talking about "especially the low B", IME, and from what I've heard from BMS owners, that setup, while sounding phenomenal, doesn't seem to really excel with the low B. I know some other Berg cabs do, but I thought that setup was a little weak in the low B dept. I hope you all don't jump on my for this opinion, but after all, this was what I heard, and feedback continue to hear from other BMS owners that I know.

For good lightweight cabs that really handle the Low B well, IMO, I would vote for the Epi 112, Accugroove tri112, EA NL210. Oh, and Gards rig really does sound pretty dope, the Eden 550 with a UL310S2. I was pretty impressed, especially with the low B!

It's interesting that you say this. My experience with the Berg IP112 seems to be solely mine. I love and use the large IPs. I have tried the IP112 w/EX112 numerous times with a Roscoe and I can make it fart til the cows come home. I've tried different Pres and cords and different Roscoes and it can't to me, handle the B. I heard another bassist do this with a Lakland into a PBJ bass buddy. Same thing at quiet volumes. When folks say they use these live and loud I'm really surprised unless they are getting some kind of Jack Bruce sound. In that case there are a lot cheaper choices for that.
My 2 cents. Again I love the IP series in their larger iterations. I'll play anything that can handle and do justice to the LG3005. The amps need to handle it not vice versa.:)

It's interesting that you say this. My experience with the Berg IP112 seems to be solely mine. I love and use the large IPs. I have tried the IP112 w/EX112 numerous times with a Roscoe and I can make it fart til the cows come home. I've tried different Pres and cords and different Roscoes and it can't to me, handle the B. I heard another bassist do this with a Lakland into a PBJ bass buddy. Same thing at quiet volumes. When folks say they use these live and loud I'm really surprised unless they are getting some kind of Jack Bruce sound. In that case there are a lot cheaper choices for that.
My 2 cents. Again I love the IP series in their larger iterations. I'll play anything that can handle and do justice to the LG3005. The amps need to handle it not vice versa.:)

Big +1

I think we all forget here on talkbass that the "ideal" tone we are going for may not be the same to everyone. I think you and I have similar tastes Chadds... We own nearly identical rigs in one form or another. I got a similar feel from the IP112's. Great little cabs but not really made for the Roscoe B at full volume. However I think other guys go for a much more guitar like tone IMO. Works for them, but not my style.

I hear what many of you guys are saying about the BMS having enough oomph on the low B for your tastes, and I also agree with the concept that its a tighter low B sound and hence, easier to control in certain rooms. The more I think about it, for me, I'm not surprised that I came to that conclusion with a pair of berg 112's. I have been using accugroove cabs for the last couple years. They are very big and fat and wide down low (notably the whappo and the tri115), and I love that feel. I have gotten used to the bottomless pit of low end. Its not that its wildly out of control (especially if you know how to use a parametric), but those cabs do inspire the belief that you could just sit on that Roscoe low B at full volume all day long and it wouldn't even flinch. I have yet to bottom out an el whappo. My ears and internal organs have stopped me before the cab did.

I just wanted to respond to that thing about the berg mini stack. I didn't mean to poop in anyones cornflakes, Its a great setup, but just not enough of those wide yet solid lows for me.

I just traded for an NV215 here on TB, we'll see how that guy does! I'm really looking forward to hearing my roscoe fretless with the the LMII and that cab. the LMII is going to look like a matchbox on top of that thing

Any more Roscoe users out there using Dr. Bass cabs? Right now, Marc is working on a deeper, slant-front version of his 210 for me with neo speakers. I can't wait. If it lives up to my expectations, a deeper straight-front 210 from him will soon follow!

My first real rig is coming together (I can finally kick that ancient Peavy combo to the curb!). I received my GK 1001RB-II Friday, and I'll be running it through an Avatar B410 NEO that will be kept at the church, and for the road I'll have an Avatar B210 NEO. Both cabs should be here by Thursday.

I had to choose function over GAS this time. I was sorely tempted to get an Aguilar rig, but I had to stay within a certain budget and wanted to get the most out of it that I could, especially considering my occasional travels with it. From everything I've heard, this rig should serve quite well.

Once everything gets in, I'll report on how this setup works with my LG...and yeah, I'll give the B a workout to see how well it handles it during service on Sunday. ;):D

My first real rig is coming together (I can finally kick that ancient Peavy combo to the curb!). I received my GK 1001RB-II Friday, and I'll be running it through an Avatar B410 NEO that will be kept at the church, and for the road I'll have an Avatar B210 NEO. Both cabs should be here by Thursday.

I had to choose function over GAS this time. I was sorely tempted to get an Aguilar rig, but I had to stay within a certain budget and wanted to get the most out of it that I could, especially considering my occasional travels with it. From everything I've heard, this rig should serve quite well.

Once everything gets in, I'll report on how this setup works with my LG...and yeah, I'll give the B a workout to see how well it handles it during service on Sunday. ;):D

Cool. Let us know. I am really diggin' the UL310 and LMII. I think I would also like the UL410.

Trace 1X15"+4X10"

(1X15)+(4X10)=bliss

There's also a 1X400 in the mix: AH400SMX.
The black light is "just too cool".

Woohoo! My cabs just made it home today! I can't wait to get home, sit down, and flex them a bit.

EA CXL112'S

I'm using a Genz Benz setup. GBE750 amp and the NeoX212. Sounds great, and is versatile enough to work perfectly with my pop/singer/songwriter gigs, church, and my hard rock band (as is my roscoe).

I'm using a GK1001-rbII through a Mesa Boogie Diesel 4x10 and (for the bigger shows) a GK 1x15RBX with my Swamp Ash/Maple, Bart/Bart Roscoe. The Boogie has a tendency to really bring out the highs and mids (even without the tweeter) with decent lows, while the GK gives a more "scooped" sound and gives the B string super booty. It sounds pretty nice when it's all together :bassist:

T-Funk 550 B with Epifani 3x10 cabinet. It kills!!

T-Funk 550 B with Epifani 3x10 cabinet. It kills!!

I bet it does!

As good as my TFunk 550B sounds through the Epi UL-112's, I suspect that the 310 would just knock my socks off!:D

I forgot to update you guys. I'm completely diggin' this GK + Avatar + Roscoe matchup! The Roscoe B is pure thunder, especially with the 410. I think I drove the 210 too hard though, so I may have blown one or both 10s, I gotta test it out and find out for sure. But the guys at Avatar have me covered even though it's my fault... if they're both toast, they'll send me a 10 on them, and I can get the second at cost for around $50. Great service!