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redangel
11-25-2007, 11:47 AM
I've got:
Tuner, Drive, EQ, Whammy, Preamp, Booster, Volume Pedal(with tuner out), Compressor, Chorus, Phaser, Envelop Filter

How would you connect them?

TheBigO
11-25-2007, 11:48 AM
I would connect them with short cables.

redangel
11-25-2007, 11:53 AM
I would connect them with short cables.

Oops... it should be sort them.

TheBigO
11-25-2007, 11:55 AM
Oops... it should be sort them.

I know, I was just being flippant. ;)

I've got:
Tuner, Drive, EQ, Whammy, Preamp, Booster, Volume Pedal(with tuner out), Compressor, Chorus, Phaser, Envelop Filter

How would you connect them?

Ok, the reality is that you just have to play with them until you find a configuration that you like. There really aren't any hard and fast rules.

But as a starting point, I would put the Whammy very close to the beginning if not first as it tracks much better at the beginning of the chain.

I'd put my booster, drive and envelope filter before the compressor. I like my OD/Distortion/Fuzz to feed into my filters, but some like the filter first. After the compressor I'd put the modulation, maybe phaser then chorus. I have my preamp last

You could put the Tuner & Volume Pedal anywhere though the beginning or end of the chain makes the most sense. I personally like the tuner and volume pedal at the end. I've never used an EQ pedal, so I'm not sure where I would put it.

Again, my preferences might be a good starting point, but you just need to experiment.

redangel
11-25-2007, 12:03 PM
Here is my setting, please comment...

Tuner-> EQ-> Whammy-> Compressor-> Drive-> Booster-> Chorus-> Phaser-> Envelop Filter-> Preamp-> Volume Pedal(with tuner out)

is there any problem?
*confused*
I dont know where should I put the compressor, eq and booster...

terrelli721
11-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I have a compression, chorus, envelope filter chorus and blowtorch, and I was told that you should always place the compression first because it will give the other effects a better signal to work with. I tried it first and last and I clearly think my effects sound better with it first. Do a search and you will find some great info on here on chaining your effects properly. Have fun!

TheBigO
11-25-2007, 12:08 PM
Again, there's no right or wrong, just what you like.

That said, while your order is different from how I'd arrange them, the only thing I'd recommend is putting your envelope filter before your compressor. The compressor is going to even out your dynamics, but those differences in attack are what give the filter it's flavor.

RickenBoogie
11-25-2007, 12:25 PM
I like preamp and/or boosts/drives first, then compressor, then eq, then modulation. But that's me, and as stated above, there's no right wrong, only what you hear and what you like.

Zappstorius
11-25-2007, 12:56 PM
Again, there's no right or wrong, just what you like.

That said, while your order is different from how I'd arrange them, the only thing I'd recommend is putting your envelope filter before your compressor. The compressor is going to even out your dynamics, but those differences in attack are what give the filter it's flavor.

+1

I would put the compressor last in the chain, or at least behind the filter & whammy.

bigchiefbc
11-25-2007, 04:55 PM
I've got:
Tuner, Drive, EQ, Whammy, Preamp, Booster, Volume Pedal(with tuner out), Compressor, Chorus, Phaser, Envelop Filter

How would you connect them?

Keep in mind that this is not necessarily a recommendation, just how I (would) arrange them, knowing my tastes:

Bass -> EQ -> Whammy -> Booster -> Drive -> Chorus -> Envelope Filter -> Phaser -> Preamp -> Compressor -> Volume Pedal -> Tuner

redangel
11-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Keep in mind that this is not necessarily a recommendation, just how I (would) arrange them, knowing my tastes:

Bass -> EQ -> Whammy -> Booster -> Drive -> Chorus -> Envelope Filter -> Phaser -> Preamp -> Compressor -> Volume Pedal -> Tuner

thanks for your advise

but can anyone tell me how about this?

tuner-> whammy -> filter -> drive -> compressor -> booster-> EQ -> chorus -> phaser -> preamp -> vol pedal

I really confused because I dont know where should I put the compressor, booster and EQ at...

because someone said that the compressor should follow the drive to embellish the driver, also someone said that the booster should follow the driver

if the compressor follow the driver, where should I put the booster at?

also, if the booster following the driver, where should I put the compressor at?

Thanks..

MysticBoo
11-27-2007, 11:03 AM
I think you'll find better answers by trying it out yourself, IMHO.

There's advantages and disadvantages to every possible order.

Some people will tell you to put the booster before the drive pedal to boost the gain on the drive pedal and make it more distorted, and some will tell you to put it after the drive pedal to make it louder.

As for the compressor... pedal compressors are generally preferred either after pedals that produce large volume spikes (like some envelope filters do) or at the very beginning of the chain to provide a more steady input to pedals after it. Where you place the compressor will affect dynamics differently for each pedal. You really need to experiment.

What's worse is that you're asking us to provide a hypothetical order. It's a completely different ball game when you actually have pedals to work with, because not all pedals are created equal, and the rules that you thought worked for other pedals may not work so well for the pedals you decide to buy.

Keep an open mind, don't worry about order, and experiment!

Racermech
11-27-2007, 12:10 PM
I played with placedment for a few hours before finally settling on the chain of my own effects, and some things got placed where I wouldn't have thought they would sound good.

This is what I ended up doing...

Filter (BSW) > Fuzz (LBM) > Drive (PD7) > Chorus (CE-5) > Flanger (BF-2) > Phaser (PH-3) > Volume with tuner out to PW Tuner > Delay (DD-5) > Compressor (Multi-comp)

I got a much better "talking" effect with the filter before the drives. The Distortion after the fuzz gave me a super heavy low end distortion and the ability to eq the fuzz if I wanted to (if anyone has a PD7 and a LBM, you really should try this out). The modulation sounded really cool in that chain, in any combination. And finally, using the compressor at the very end (subtle compression) made everything clearer and a bit more prevalent. I was a bit scared that it would make the delay sound really odd, but it actually just clarified the repeats.

So, as most people mention...take a peak at suggested placements to get a starting point, but then experiement and move things around.

MikeBass
11-27-2007, 12:31 PM
Here's my set-up:
Tuner(Strobo stomp)>Octive(Boss OC-2)>Chorus (Boss Super Chorus CH-1)>EQ(Demeter BEQ-PB)>Envelope Follower(MXR M-188 Bass Auto-Q)>Compressor(Demeter Compulator)>Boost(Fulltone FatBoost)

I found that my envelope follower likes it better when I have it after my compressor. hat way you have total control over the dynamics hitting the thing.

I noticed you have your phaser after your chorus. Does it cause anything weird hitting it and then hit your phaser? Or do you seldom use them together?

OT- On my short list is replacing the Boss Chorus with a TC Electronics Chorus/Flanger.

I have a photo of my board someplace...

Sir Edward V
11-27-2007, 12:55 PM
only thing I think you should do: use the tuner out of the volume pedal to go to the tuner... its what it is there for, and takes your tuner out of the signal path

try booster before the drive and the compressor... I dont like it this way, but a lot of people to. putting it before the drive lets you get more distortion than just the drive pedal alone

also putting it before the compressor might give you some drive from the compressor, it could be good, could not. I say try it!

syciprider
11-27-2007, 12:59 PM
I use Chiclets and string.

MikeBass
11-27-2007, 01:05 PM
only thing I think you should do: use the tuner out of the volume pedal to go to the tuner... its what it is there for, and takes your tuner out of the signal path

try booster before the drive and the compressor... I dont like it this way, but a lot of people to. putting it before the drive lets you get more distortion than just the drive pedal alone

also putting it before the compressor might give you some drive from the compressor, it could be good, could not. I say try it!

A compressor is made to tame you signal and releave transiant peaks- basically make thing level volume wise.
If it's set right, you shouldn't really hear it (subjective here, some guys like to squash the signal) but overall it's supposed to keep the crazy dynamics (ie. volume peeks) under control.

If you put the boost before it, your going to smack it and all it will do, actually should do, is bring that signal down the the level you have it set to. And no louder really.
Hit a compressor too hard and it acts like a limiter to a point.

By setting the compressor so it works smoothly and not squashing your boost, when you don't have the boost engaged, the threshold will be so high, I don't think you'll even get you signal to hit it.

You shouldn't be able to get you compressor to break up.
But I imagine if you hit anything hard enough it will, they're really not built to do that though.

Just IMO/IME naturally! :D

MikeBass
11-27-2007, 01:09 PM
I use Chiclets and string.

Yeah, but Tic-Tacs and fishing line are all the rage these days!!

meev992
11-27-2007, 01:13 PM
I use Chiclets and string.

Best post I've ever read ;)

andvari7
11-27-2007, 01:37 PM
Blue Morley -> Black Morley (Pro Wah) -> Q-Tron -> Bassballs -> Bass Micro Synthesizer -> Small Stone ->Big Muff

I have a sneaky feeling something is wrong with this setup. Like I'm not getting everything out of my effects.

MysticBoo
11-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Blue Morley -> Black Morley (Pro Wah) -> Q-Tron -> Bassballs -> Bass Micro Synthesizer -> Small Stone ->Big Muff

I have a sneaky feeling something is wrong with this setup. Like I'm not getting everything out of my effects.

Personally, I'd move the Big Muff to the very front. Then, wah as you please with the Muff on... it's a HUGE difference. :bassist:

I think the rest is fine as it is. I'd suggest experimenting more with the placement of the Small Stone, just for fun. You could also try moving the BMS before the Q-Tron and Bassballs, but I'd only do that if I were using just the octave section.

No matter how you order those filters (BMS, Bassballs, Q-Tron), it's going to be unruly. :D

meev992
11-27-2007, 02:44 PM
Blue Morley -> Black Morley (Pro Wah) -> Q-Tron -> Bassballs -> Bass Micro Synthesizer -> Small Stone ->Big Muff

I have a sneaky feeling something is wrong with this setup. Like I'm not getting everything out of my effects.

Multiple effects loops, perhaps?

I blend my signal with dry; turns out, that was what I needed.

Other than that, write down every permutation of your chain and see which one works best.

Sir Edward V
11-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Just IMO/IME naturally! :D

yeah, its not what they are meant for, but some will do it, and it sounds good, lol

MikeBass
11-27-2007, 10:11 PM
Found that pic of my board:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/mikeamanda/PedalBoard11-9.jpg

Niff
11-27-2007, 10:12 PM
i would go

compressor -> tuner -> whammy -> volume -> chorus -> phaser -> envelope filter -> EQ -> booster -> drive -> preamp

compressor gives a nice easy signal for the tuner and whammy to track. chorus and phaser don't really matter where they are, but before the drive gives a nice tone IMO, but it's up to you whether you like a driven modulation or a modulated driven signal. otherwise put them after the drive and before the preamp.
i like the envelope filter before the drive, i think it sounds a lot better when it gets a clean signal into it then goes into dirt.
the EQ and booster going into the drive create stages of distortion, which are nice. or you could have the booster before to make the drive louder, and the EQ after to shape the tone of the driven signal. whatever.

this is all just what i'd do, though. it's up to you.