What players have had a big influence on your playing?

What new/current bands or players are you currently digging?

What players have had a big influence on your playing?

What new/current bands or players are you currently digging?

Bass wise? Tina Weymouth, Peter Hook, McCartney, Family Man, Robbie Shakespeare, Jamerson, David J, Trevor Boulder, Graham Lewis, Chuck Rainey, Joe Osborne, Carol Kaye, JJ Burnell, Dave Allen, Bridget Cross, Prince, Klaus Flouride, Herbie Flowers, Daryl Jennifer, Holger Czukay, Tom Peterson, Michael Anthony, Paul Simonon, Sting, Adam Clayton, Gerald Casale, Bruce Thomas, John McVie, Jah Wobble, JPJ, John Dalton, Kim Deal, Andy Rourke, Kim Gordon, Arnaldo Baptista, Joe Lally, Tony Visconti, John Taylor, etc. etc.

I mostly dig all those players because they contribute to music that means a lot to me.

Bands? LCD, Stars, Bloc Party, Arcade Fire, TV on the Radio, Ruby Suns, Sea Wolf, M.I.A., Justice, Fischerspooner, Autechre, Sigur Ros, Dappled Cities, Oliver Future, Tegan & Sara, Amnion, Grizzly Bear, Robert Francis, Daniel Moore, Peaches, etc etc ad nauseum. I rock emusic.com and iTunes, as well as Amoeba, the raddest record store in the universe.

But I don't really seek out bass players to listen to, that bores me to tears, sorry. That's why the NAMM show has me screaming bloody murder after a couple of hours. I want to light some fretless nine-string basses on fire. :D

JMJ

Bass wise? Tina Weymouth, Peter Hook, McCartney, Family Man, Robbie Shakespeare, Jamerson, David J, Trevor Boulder, Graham Lewis, Chuck Rainey, Joe Osborne, Carol Kaye, JJ Burnell, Dave Allen, Bridget Cross, Prince, Klaus Flouride, Herbie Flowers, Daryl Jennifer, Holger Czukay, Tom Peterson, Michael Anthony, Paul Simonon, Sting, Adam Clayton, Gerald Casale, Bruce Thomas, John McVie, Jah Wobble, JPJ, John Dalton, Kim Deal, Andy Rourke, Kim Gordon, Arnaldo Baptista, Joe Lally, Tony Visconti, John Taylor, etc. etc.
I always thought you sound a little like them ;)

Bass wise? Tina Weymouth, Peter Hook, McCartney, Family Man, Robbie Shakespeare, Jamerson, David J, Trevor Boulder, Graham Lewis, Chuck Rainey, Joe Osborne, Carol Kaye, JJ Burnell, Dave Allen, Bridget Cross, Prince, Klaus Flouride, Herbie Flowers, Daryl Jennifer, Holger Czukay, Tom Peterson, Michael Anthony, Paul Simonon, Sting, Adam Clayton, Gerald Casale, Bruce Thomas, John McVie, Jah Wobble, JPJ, John Dalton, Kim Deal, Andy Rourke, Kim Gordon, Arnaldo Baptista, Joe Lally, Tony Visconti, John Taylor, etc. etc.

Nice list. A lot of bass players I also like in there. Two that stick out to me are Tina Weymouth and Paul Simonon, primarily because neither could even play their instrument when they were asked to join their bands but wound up being (IMO) very solid players. Bruce Thomas is one of my favorite underrated players.

I rock emusic.com and iTunes, as well as Amoeba, the raddest record store in the universe.

Love Amoeba. Love. I spent way too much of my time at the Berkeley store when I was in college.

But I don't really seek out bass players to listen to, that bores me to tears, sorry. That's why the NAMM show has me screaming bloody murder after a couple of hours. I want to light some fretless nine-string basses on fire. :D

I'm pretty much the same way. I can certainly appreciate virtuosity (on any instrument), but I'd much rather hear a great band/great songs than a great player. Even with a guy like Victor Wooten, I find I really only enjoy him with the Flecktones or when he sits in with other people. For the most part I can't get into fusion for the same reason - too much wankery for my tastes.

One exception (for me at least) is Jeff Schmidt who is a member here. I think his stuff is fantastic. Here's one of his songs from solo bass night a couple years ago: Apotheosis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4sJHBIYEo).

Dude, that video is sick. What a talent. Respect.

Even if I would never buy or go out of my way to listen to that kind of music, I can certainly respect the adventure and virtuosity. Fun to watch him do his thing.

Even if I wanted to learn how to play like that, most of my basses have heavy gauge strings and high action making it totally unrealistic. I did bust out my only fretless the other day for this movie though! ;)

Re: Victor Wooten, I respect the s*$t out of him, 'cuz I saw him live at NAMM and once again: he had the fire, and he was playing an emotive piece. Good MUSIC always rises to the surface. Fingers moving across a fretboard does not. Hence wankery vs. communication.

JMJ

Big ups to Joe Lally. What a rock solid player. Fugazi would have turned into a noisy mess without him.

Brendan Canty had his back.

Nice to see punk bassists on that list. And Sigur Ros! Great band. I just bought the Heima-dvd. Still haven't seen the live portion of the packet.

Oh yeah, I'm glad you joined us. I saw the AIR eating sleeping playing dvd and your personality made that film. Those guys make great music but they are not very interesting to watch if they are not playing.

Bands? LCD, Stars, Bloc Party, Arcade Fire, TV on the Radio, Ruby Suns, Sea Wolf, M.I.A., Justice, Fischerspooner, Autechre, Sigur Ros, Dappled Cities, Oliver Future, Tegan & Sara, Amnion, Grizzly Bear, Robert Francis, Daniel Moore, Peaches, etc etc ad nauseum. I rock emusic.com and iTunes, as well as Amoeba, the raddest record store in the universe.
:bassist:

But I don't really seek out bass players to listen to, that bores me to tears, sorry. That's why the NAMM show has me screaming bloody murder after a couple of hours. I want to light some fretless nine-string basses on fire. :D

JMJ

amen. and again i say, amen

it's great to see arnaldo batista in your list.
I also dig liminha's bass playing in os mutantes.
best regards from your biggest fan in brazil,
daniel

it's great to see arnaldo batista in your list.
I also love liminha's work in os mutantes (he joined the band as a bassist in 1970).
best regards from your biggest fan in brazil,
daniel

I love Liminha too! Brilliant! Viva Brazil.

Best,
JMJ

Bass wise? Tina Weymouth, Peter Hook, McCartney, Family Man, Robbie Shakespeare, Jamerson, David J, Trevor Boulder, Graham Lewis, Chuck Rainey, Joe Osborne, Carol Kaye, JJ Burnell, Dave Allen, Bridget Cross, Prince, Klaus Flouride, Herbie Flowers, Daryl Jennifer, Holger Czukay, Tom Peterson, Michael Anthony, Paul Simonon, Sting, Adam Clayton, Gerald Casale, Bruce Thomas, John McVie, Jah Wobble, JPJ, John Dalton, Kim Deal, Andy Rourke, Kim Gordon, Arnaldo Baptista, Joe Lally, Tony Visconti, John Taylor, etc. etc.

I mostly dig all those players because they contribute to music that means a lot to me.

JMJ

i also have a long list of players i dig and want to learn - although, its seems a lot easier to have one or two players whos style your after, then just study em...

with that said:
-how did you come to know all the different styles of your influences? -did you take one at a time and study 'em til you felt like you knew their style?
-or did it just happen over time?

Thanks, jk

I didn't really study any styles, I just listen a lot. In other words, I don't take apart the styles of individual guys. I probably should actually play along to records more, haven't done that in a while.

JMJ

TV on the Radio, Whoo!!!! :bassist:

Bass wise? Holger Czukay etc. etc.
JMJ

+1
You have impeccable taste sir - Can did some amazing stuff.

You've reminded me that I've got this 1982 collaboration of Czukay,Wobble,Liebezeit & The Edge with Francois Kevorkian on vinyl ('Snakecharmer'). Will have to dig it out when I get home tonight, & have a revisit - thanks.

Was also wondering if or how you rate Derek Forbes' of early Simple Minds, Barry Adamson & (IMHO Bowie's best bassist) George Murray?

Thanks again for the inspiration :)
Nick

Thanks, Nick. And now I have to return the complement, because I forgot about that Snakecharmer stuff! I need to hear that!! Never owned it, always heard about it, but I must find.

Derek Forbes? VERY good. Tasty. Economical. Good tones.

Barry Adamson? I like, for sure.

George Murray? He's the SHiznit. I think he was Bowie's best bassist too! Most definitely!

Hats off to you, I'm down with your taste, man!

JMJ

Thanks, Nick. And now I have to return the complement, because I forgot about that Snakecharmer stuff! I need to hear that!! Never owned it, always heard about it, but I must find.

Derek Forbes? VERY good. Tasty. Economical. Good tones.

Barry Adamson? I like, for sure.

George Murray? He's the SHiznit. I think he was Bowie's best bassist too! Most definitely!

Hats off to you, I'm down with your taste, man!

JMJ

Thankyou Justin - humbled :D

Just getting back to George Murray, recall an interview with Andy Rourke whereby he said he learnt to play bass by listening to & copping Murray's lines. So there you go...

Very underrated I think - not much on web about him, seemed to have disappeared after Bowie period. Would love to know what he's doing now or since.

Best
Nick

Gawd, so would I!! Would LOVE to get more detail on his life and career.

JMJ

Dude I just saw Tegan and Sara on your list. Their new record is one of my favorite purchases this year.

not sure if he's been mentioned on this forum, but i caught a radiohead show a few nights ago and was absolutely floored by the deep, gorgeous tone and rock solid, yet richly nuanced lines eminating from Colin Greenwood's mighty precision.

Yeah, Tegan & Sara are doing great things.

Colin Greenwood? Gawd what a sound and feel. He's a buddy, and always wants to hide when I mention this to him after a gig. He's too modest. But great nonetheless. Live, he runs an SVT 8 x 10 rig with classic head, but also a powered PA subwoofer right next to it. Very rich.

JMJ

Yeah, Tegan & Sara are doing great things.

Colin Greenwood? Gawd what a sound and feel. He's a buddy, and always wants to hide when I mention this to him after a gig. He's too modest. But great nonetheless. Live, he runs an SVT 8 x 10 rig with classic head, but also a powered PA subwoofer right next to it. Very rich.

JMJ
Have you ever done the PA-style bass rig? I keep thinking I want to try it, but then I think how I dig what I'm hearing with the stuff I have now, and it'll just be a fad and more crap I have to carry and set up myself. Still, when I hear my bass coming through a well-tuned line array + sub system on a gig, I want to poop myself, and as much as I dig my B-15's, and my little Markbass combo for when I'm especially lazy, they never achieve the brown note.

I have indeed done that. That's what I'm doing now, though the only part of the rig with me on stage is a very intense subwoofer. Everything above 180Hz is coming through the ears. Sounds like heaven, particularly because I seem to play better when the bass level is much more "mixed in", rather than over and above everything else. I listen more carefully to drums and vocals nowadays.

STILL: I'll take two 8 x 10's behind me any day of the week, my friend.

In 2000 on tour with Beck on the Midnite Vultures tour, there was a time I used a 1 x 18" Meyers sub and a 2 x 12" box on top of that with a horn. It was meaty and definitely did the brown note, but after that, I went right back to two 8 x 10's.

And I STILL might do that!

Best,
JMJ

Yeah, Tegan & Sara are doing great things.

Colin Greenwood? Gawd what a sound and feel. He's a buddy, and always wants to hide when I mention this to him after a gig. He's too modest. But great nonetheless. Live, he runs an SVT 8 x 10 rig with classic head, but also a powered PA subwoofer right next to it. Very rich.

JMJ


nice! thanks for the info. that's so cool that you guys are friends. and with the two of you out on tour right now, what's all this nonsense about there not being any good music these days?!?!?

Re: your bass influence list, big ups on putting Tina in there first! That's how I think of it too! she is the queen/king of it all, at least in my brain. Second big up- Bridget Cross!!!!!!! 'Perfect Teeth'!!! Holla!!!!!

Can I just say that Bridget Cross is a serious hero of mine? Both in Unrest and Air Miami. For REALZ!!!!

JMJ

I have indeed done that. That's what I'm doing now, though the only part of the rig with me on stage is a very intense subwoofer. Everything above 180Hz is coming through the ears. Sounds like heaven, particularly because I seem to play better when the bass level is much more "mixed in", rather than over and above everything else. I listen more carefully to drums and vocals nowadays.

STILL: I'll take two 8 x 10's behind me any day of the week, my friend.

In 2000 on tour with Beck on the Midnite Vultures tour, there was a time I used a 1 x 18" Meyers sub and a 2 x 12" box on top of that with a horn. It was meaty and definitely did the brown note, but after that, I went right back to two 8 x 10's.

And I STILL might do that!

Best,
JMJ
It's a winning formula since 1969. I'm about to bust out my Iron Butterfly 69 SVT with the 6146B's and brand new recones again after it sat dormant for 10 years. I know what you mean. That's why I never did the PA rig. Well, that and it was even more gigantic than an SVT at the time. But now you can get nice tiny stuff that does it. Still, nobody lets me turn up loud enough to hit the brown note anymore, so why am I even sweating it? ;)

Viva Bridget!!! Saw Unrest once (opening for fugazi?!?! D.C. representing I guess!) and Air Miami only once as well, but those records still get the spin around my house all the time. And that bubbling 16th note picking stuff she owned still pops out in my playing quite often. She had the right ideas. A toast to the Cross.....wherever she may be....

...and the would be Juneau, Alaska!!! Ok, got inspired and googled Bridget and was happy to find out she recently put out a new album, called "Maybe it's Reno", that includes the other 2 Unrest guys as well! Zounds! Gotta check it out!

Got me to thinking about what else I was crazy about around the time I was into Unrest...how bout Babe The Blue Ox, featuring the astonishing-on-many-levels Rose Thomson on bass? Anyone? Anyone?

Anne Eickelberg and the incredible Thinking Fellers Union 282....any recollections out there?

Or, gosh, this brings back fond memories of when I saw my favorite band at the time, Medicine, play at the Bottleneck in Lawrence, Kansas......anyone remember THAT????? ;)

Hi Pops,

COol info on Bridget, I'm gonna get that "Maybe It's Reno" record!

I'm not super familiar with Babe The Blue Ox, but I used to go see Thinking Fellers Union, I thought they were great...Anne was awesome.

You were at the Bottleneck in Lawrence? God, what a distant memory...but I do remember it! The most insane tour ever. That's funny.

JMJ

Wow, Medicine was the most insane tour ever? Was it the tour that did that band in? It was a great show. There are things on that 'Buried Life' album that still gives me the chills...'Never Click', fr'instance. As for you in that era, if memory serves, I recall a shaven head and stingray???? Am i close?

Shaven head and a stingray indeed. That was the business. That was indeed the tour that ended the band. On stage in Denver, I might add.

JMJ

Wow! So if your routing made sense, it's entirely possible I might have seen that band's last full show!!!!!! Incredible!

Derek Forbes? VERY good. Tasty. Economical. Good tones.
JMJ

Hi Mr. J

You've probably heard this before, but Mr. Forbes sounds like he's playing for his life here! Think Simple Minds declined after he was booted out.
For your delectation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDx-1L3V9U

Also (in your learned knowledge), don't suppose you know who Roxy's bass player was on 'Same Old Scene'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmZeBsr49o
Top video, don't make 'em like that anymore do they?:D

Got to get head out of the 80's:crying:

God bless!
Nick

I love Liminha too! Brilliant! Viva Brazil.

Best,
JMJ

Arnaldo Baptista surprised me enough, but seeing you also like Liminha is just...wow. I think the respect you've earned from me is almost hitting the roof right now.

If you need someone to hook you up with Arnaldo's records, I'll gladly help!

Hi Mr. J

You've probably heard this before, but Mr. Forbes sounds like he's playing for his life here! Think Simple Minds declined after he was booted out.
For your delectation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDx-1L3V9U

Also (in your learned knowledge), don't suppose you know who Roxy's bass player was on 'Same Old Scene'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmZeBsr49o
Top video, don't make 'em like that anymore do they?:D

Got to get head out of the 80's:crying:

God bless!
Nick

Dude, that Simple Minds early period stuff is for REAL. Forbes is playing the hell out of the bass on ALL those songs.

As far as the bassist on Roxy's "Same Old Scene", that was the late, great Alan Spenner. An influence on me for sure.

http://moo.vivaroxymusic.com/2241

Best,
JMJ

Arnaldo Baptista surprised me enough, but seeing you also like Liminha is just...wow. I think the respect you've earned from me is almost hitting the roof right now.

If you need someone to hook you up with Arnaldo's records, I'll gladly help!

Nice, even just give me some tips on what I should go check out.

JMJ

As far as the bassist on Roxy's "Same Old Scene", that was the late, great Alan Spenner. An influence on me for sure.

http://moo.vivaroxymusic.com/2241

Best,
JMJ

Hi Justin,
Many thanks for the link, very interesting - much appreciated.

Alan Spenner certainly got around. Didn't he?
I also didn't realise he played on 1973 'Jesus Christ Superstar' soundtrack too. Some good grooves there....:cool:

Cheers
Nick

Nice, even just give me some tips on what I should go check out.

JMJ

Well, you should check out the entire Os Mutantes discography, since Arnaldo played bass on the first three albums, and Liminha played on the next three:

1968: Os Mutantes
1969: Mutantes
1970: A Divina Comédia ou Ando Meio Desligado
1971: Jardim Elétrico
1972: Mutantes e Seus Cometas no País do Baurets
1973: O A e o Z

The most memorable bass playing on those albums is the bass intro to their third record, on the song "Ando Meio Desligado". They also re-recorded some of their songs in English and released them on an album called "Tecnicolor". All this stuff should be easily accessible to you, since Os Mutantes is a popular band. Well, maybe you already have all this stuff, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

What should be hard to get is Arnaldo's solo stuff. There's three notable solo albums: Lóki, Singin' Alone and Let It Bed. Unlike the Mutantes albums, I don't think these were ever released abroad. I can find them in Brazil, though. I remember seeing a nice Lóki vinyl on a store some time ago.

Well, I'll gladly help out on getting any of these.

Who got me to want to play the bass:

Simon Gallup, Steve Severin, Steve Kilbey, Robin Guthrie, Paul McCartney, Peter Hook, David J, Andy Rourke, Sting, Dave Allen, Mick Karn, Mike Mills, Les Pattinson, Tim Butler, James Jamerson, Tony Levin, Joe Allen, Doyle Holly.

Can anyone guess what decade I was a teen-ager? :)

Who got me to want to play the bass:

Simon Gallup, Steve Severin, Steve Kilbey, Robin Guthrie, Paul McCartney, Peter Hook, David J, Andy Rourke, Sting, Dave Allen, Mick Karn, Mike Mills, Les Pattinson, Tim Butler, James Jamerson, Tony Levin, Joe Allen, Doyle Holly.

Can anyone guess what decade I was a teen-ager? :)

I'll have a shot in the dark: 80's? ;)

Well, you should check out the entire Os Mutantes discography, since Arnaldo played bass on the first three albums, and Liminha played on the next three:

1968: Os Mutantes
1969: Mutantes
1970: A Divina Comédia ou Ando Meio Desligado
1971: Jardim Elétrico
1972: Mutantes e Seus Cometas no País do Baurets
1973: O A e o Z

The most memorable bass playing on those albums is the bass intro to their third record, on the song "Ando Meio Desligado". They also re-recorded some of their songs in English and released them on an album called "Tecnicolor". All this stuff should be easily accessible to you, since Os Mutantes is a popular band. Well, maybe you already have all this stuff, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

What should be hard to get is Arnaldo's solo stuff. There's three notable solo albums: Lóki, Singin' Alone and Let It Bed. Unlike the Mutantes albums, I don't think these were ever released abroad. I can find them in Brazil, though. I remember seeing a nice Lóki vinyl on a store some time ago.

Well, I'll gladly help out on getting any of these.

This is a cracking thread on an already brilliant forum (respect JMJ) - turning out to be a bassist connoisseur's music club!

Great Saturday night, going through Os Mutantes tracks on web. Never heard of them before, but liking what I hear!

Thanks for for turning me onto them Fernando!

Nick

Well, you should check out the entire Os Mutantes discography, since Arnaldo played bass on the first three albums, and Liminha played on the next three:

1968: Os Mutantes
1969: Mutantes
1970: A Divina Comédia ou Ando Meio Desligado
1971: Jardim Elétrico
1972: Mutantes e Seus Cometas no País do Baurets
1973: O A e o Z

The most memorable bass playing on those albums is the bass intro to their third record, on the song "Ando Meio Desligado". They also re-recorded some of their songs in English and released them on an album called "Tecnicolor". All this stuff should be easily accessible to you, since Os Mutantes is a popular band. Well, maybe you already have all this stuff, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

What should be hard to get is Arnaldo's solo stuff. There's three notable solo albums: Lóki, Singin' Alone and Let It Bed. Unlike the Mutantes albums, I don't think these were ever released abroad. I can find them in Brazil, though. I remember seeing a nice Lóki vinyl on a store some time ago.

Well, I'll gladly help out on getting any of these.

Ahh, Fernando: thank you so much! This is a great way for me to complete my collection. Brilliant summary.

Best,
JMJ

I'll have a shot in the dark: 80's? ;)

LOL.. Great guess! :)

This is a cracking thread on an already brilliant forum (respect JMJ) - turning out to be a bassist connoisseur's music club!

Great Saturday night, going through Os Mutantes tracks on web. Never heard of them before, but liking what I hear!

Thanks for for turning me onto them Fernando!

Nick

Ahh, Fernando: thank you so much! This is a great way for me to complete my collection. Brilliant summary.

Best,
JMJ
Always good to hear someone's appreciation for a recommendation. Cheers!

Hi Justin,

Hope the tour's going well.

Was wondering do like the Monks?
Bunch of GI's stationed in Germany who formed a band - big influence on the Fall.

Mega cool haircuts :cool: & I think you must admit mate, a sweet bass sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c

Salut!
Nick

p.s. See you like Chameleons....bloody hell!:D

Hi Justin,

Hope the tour's going well.

Was wondering do like the Monks?
Bunch of GI's stationed in Germany who formed a band - big influence on the Fall.

Mega cool haircuts :cool: & I think you must admit mate, a sweet bass sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iI0__9S1c

Salut!
Nick

p.s. See you like Chameleons....bloody hell!:D


Yeah, Monks are a great recommendation, I've been on top of that for many a year; anything in the '60's pre-punk/garage variety is worth finding out about: MC5, Electric Prunes, Sonics, Monks, The Seeds, Standells, etc. All good!

Yes, the Chameleons were a big discovery for me when I was about 16-17...I didn't understand why they weren't huge, with an album as profound as "Strange Times".

JMJ

Yes, the Chameleons were a big discovery for me when I was about 16-17...I didn't understand why they weren't huge, with an album as profound as "Strange Times".

JMJ

Chameleons were a bit of a rite of passage band for me too, that awkward adolescence to adult period. Though my wife, often remarks I've yet to still make this transition!:D
I always get bit nostalgic when I listen to them :crying:
They probably would have got bigger if they'd just held it together long enough. Unfortunately after the death of their friend/manager who apparently stopped some of them at times from killing each other; internal issues took hold & they imploded.
They did reform in 2001 but quickly fell out again year later - shame.
'Swamp Thing' was/still is a colossal tune.

Another great call Mr J. - my respect for you is going through the roof!

Chameleons were a bit of a rite of passage band for me too, that awkward adolescence to adult period. Though my wife, often remarks I've yet to still make this transition!:D
I always get bit nostalgic when I listen to them :crying:
They probably would have got bigger if they'd just held it together long enough. Unfortunately after the death of their friend/manager who apparently stopped some of them at times from killing each other; internal issues took hold & they imploded.
They did reform in 2001 but quickly fell out again year later - shame.
'Swamp Thing' was/still is a colossal tune.

Another great call Mr J. - my respect for you is going through the roof!

Thanks, man...yeah Chameleons - nostalgia is definitely the feeling one gets. Swamp Thing is stupendous; what an epic achievement, as is that whole record it's on. And yes, after their man Tony Fletcher died, it seems so did they. I did see two of the reunion shows in '01, and they were great. Not sure, even if they reformed again, if they can re-create the same magic as their three amazing records from back in the day.

Yes, the Chameleons were a big discovery for me when I was about 16-17...I didn't understand why they weren't huge, with an album as profound as "Strange Times".

The Chameleons were quite the amazing band! Unique and intense. Saw them in '87 and about 6 years ago.

Vern Rumsey from Unwound anyone? I love that band.

Mega cool haircuts :cool: & I think you must admit mate, a sweet bass sound

I know people who have that "haircut" involuntarily :)

Thanks, man...yeah Chameleons - nostalgia is definitely the feeling one gets.


The Chameleons were a great band. Later on for some reason their releases were labeled under "The Chameleons UK". Wow, that was a while back.

i'll throw in for the 60's mods -

you guys dig The Action, The Creation, The Artwoods or The Attack??

The Action also has very cool gritty bass tones, i.e.; "Really Doesnt Matter" marshall amp i would guess...

I LOOOOOOVE The Creation! Heard a little bit of The Action, gotta get some more.

JMJ

I LOOOOOOVE The Creation! Heard a little bit of The Action, gotta get some more.

JMJ

Justin,

"Making Time" is one of the greatest songs ever, imo.

Also, i believe you said you use eMusic

The Action's album "Rolled Gold" is on eMusic - i recommend the whole thing...

Getting it...

You've reminded me that I've got this 1982 collaboration of Czukay,Wobble,Liebezeit & The Edge with Francois Kevorkian on vinyl ('Snakecharmer'). Will have to dig it out when I get home tonight, & have a revisit - thanks.


I have the same recording:) I like it.

Justin,

You rockin' any Autolux 'Future Perfect'? Eugene's basslines are exactly what is called for and nothing more, but they complement Greg Edwards' guitar/noise work beautifully. I had the pleasure of seeing/meeting them a few years ago in Charlottesville, Virginia opening for The Secret Machines. Small club owned by Coran Capshaw (Musictoday, DMB) called Starr Hill. No one showed up for the openers (autolux and moving units) so the room had this very nice, but strange, ambient reverb. I had never heard of them and was totally blown away. Easily one of my top three shows...up there with Elliott Smith and Jeff Buckley.

Any idea who tracked bass for E. Smith or did he record the basslines himself?

I think Victor Wooten's greatness is only equaled by his humbleness. That man is a sheer joy in this business.

Looking forward to seeing you in OKC!

Cheers!

Hey Justin,
It's great to see that you enjoy Justice and Fischerspooner. Fischerspooner is simply epic, and I LOVE the heavier slapping in some of the Justice songs.

I was wondering if you ever listened to Muse, as Chris Wolstenholme is one of my favorite players. They have a really unique sound, although some say it is too close to that of Radiohead.

Autolux is super dope, and friends of mine. Euguene is great great great on bass.

I don't really listen to Muse, but when it's on the radio, I don't turn it off. Something about it seems a little overwrought to me, but I can tell those players in that band are uber talented.

JMJ

The Left Banke? Pretty Ballerina is a fairly dope track. I know you've been all over the Tori Amos records, and those basslines are sick. However, whoever her touring bassist was around the Scarlet's Walk era, can't remember his name & he played Lakland exclusively, definitely brought it live.

That bassist is John Evans - tremendous player.

Autolux is super dope, and friends of mine. Euguene is great great great on bass.

I don't really listen to Muse, but when it's on the radio, I don't turn it off. Something about it seems a little overwrought to me, but I can tell those players in that band are uber talented.

JMJ

I saw Muse live a couple of months ago, and it really is one of those bands you don't get to fully know until you see it live. Their singles are great, but their studio production is handled in the wrong way sometimes, making it sound exaggerated. A shame, really, because they're better than what they appear to be. Chris keeps the bass tight while Matt solos the hell out of his guitar.

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Any idea who tracked bass for E. Smith or did he record the basslines himself?[QUOTE]

Elliott did most of the bass work himself with the exception of a few tracks by Sam Coomes (Quasi, Heatmiser, Donner Party) who also was his touring bassist.

As a fan of what I categorize as fringe pop (def: bands that have a way with melody and harmony, but express it in a non-traditional way), I find myself looking outside for influence. One cd I stole for inspiration, well, borrowed from my Mum is a compilation of Camille Saint-Saëns. I have been listening to it for two weeks straight. I have only dabbled with an upright, and I am curious if you have any classical influences.

I wish I did. I enjoy Debussy, Ravel, Mahler, Cage, Glass, various things I've been turned on to. Otherwise, I'm not too savvy.

I wish I did. I enjoy Debussy, Ravel, Mahler, Cage, Glass, various things I've been turned on to. Otherwise, I'm not too savvy.

Hi there, JMJ.

I'm just gonna throw out Chopin, Stravinsky, Rachaimanov, Tchaikovsky and Bach (best bassist ever) in case you've not listened to any of them. They're amazing composers and in the case of Bach and Rachaimanov...excellent players themselves on organ and piano respectively.

Sounds good! I'm down!

Dude Justin i'm so glad you said Peter Hook. I never hear anyone talk about him on this site. He was like what made the joy division sound for me.

Arcade Fire. Dude no one ever gives them any credit either, but they have such an elaborate style. I think they are amazing IMO.

And Justin what do you think of this up and coming band Tokyo Police Club?

Thanks for your time
TA

Dude Justin i'm so glad you said Peter Hook. I never hear anyone talk about him on this site. He was like what made the joy division sound for me.

Arcade Fire. Dude no one ever gives them any credit either, but they have such an elaborate style. I think they are amazing IMO.

And Justin what do you think of this up and coming band Tokyo Police Club?

Thanks for your time
TA

I smell a fellow canuck...are you canadian as well, then? :hiding:

I'm down with Tokyo Police Club - pretty cool.

Arcade Fire I love love love.

Peter Hook is one of my top two or three bassists. Getting to hang out with him several years back was a huge highlight in my life. It shocks me too that he's not revered as a God sometimes. But on the other hand, it's not for everyone.

JMJ

I'm down with Tokyo Police Club - pretty cool.

Arcade Fire I love love love.

Peter Hook is one of my top two or three bassists. Getting to hang out with him several years back was a huge highlight in my life. It shocks me too that he's not revered as a God sometimes. But on the other hand, it's not for everyone.

JMJ

You need to find a video of Hooky playing with a band called the Wombats recently they played one of their songs and he just drissled lead bass all over it was just awesome and trust me in Manchester that man is a god ;)

I smell a fellow canuck...are you canadian as well, then? :hiding:

dude im actually not, but everyone asks me all the time.

dude Peter Hook is a god if your into his religion lol. Did Hook with the Wombats on Lets Dance To Joy Division sometime? I've got to youtube that. That song is actually how i first heard of Joy Division.

You need to find a video of Hooky playing with a band called the Wombats recently they played one of their songs and he just drissled lead bass all over it was just awesome and trust me in Manchester that man is a god ;)

Recall several times in my youth him walking through the Hacienda, almost revered by all - very much on a Viking lord vibe.

Apparently he now has a castle in Alderley Edge.

It's got to be said that with the exception of Justin, all the best modern bassplayers,Hooky,Rourke,Mani... have come from Manchester ;) :hiding:

I can't find the exact recording but here are 2 cool ones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFmep4bVHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIZHhtKdPb0

dude thats cool. Hook is the man.

Super cool. Yeah, I think I underestimate how highly regarded Hooky is...it just seems that among American bass players, I holler about him and they go: huh??

For that matter, if I say Andy Rourke is a bass God, some people might know of him being in the Smiths, but they won't understand why I say he's a bass God.

Well, here's why he's another one for me:

Because he gets away with maximum melody and innovation with his parts and approach, while all the while serving the song. JUST LIKE Hooky, only different.

JMJ

Super cool. Yeah, I think I underestimate how highly regarded Hooky is...it just seems that among American bass players, I holler about him and they go: huh??

For that matter, if I say Andy Rourke is a bass God, some people might know of him being in the Smiths, but they won't understand why I say he's a bass God.

Well, here's why he's another one for me:

Because he gets away with maximum melody and innovation with his parts and approach, while all the while serving the song. JUST LIKE Hooky, only different.

JMJ

I was once asked to replace Andy Rourke in a band....... you can imagine how that panned out :p but it was a nice compliment to be asked being only 22 at the time

Super cool. Yeah, I think I underestimate how highly regarded Hooky is...it just seems that among American bass players, I holler about him and they go: huh??

For that matter, if I say Andy Rourke is a bass God, some people might know of him being in the Smiths, but they won't understand why I say he's a bass God.

Well, here's why he's another one for me:

Because he gets away with maximum melody and innovation with his parts and approach, while all the while serving the song. JUST LIKE Hooky, only different.

JMJ

well i can see what you mean about Andy Rourke, but the smiths just never did it for me.

I noticed you stated you like Autolux. I was wondering if you were into the guitarist's(Greg Edwards) old band Failure in which he played bass and had an awesome Wal tone to boot.
I love the album Fantastic Planet. I never see Failure get any love.

:bassist:

Mike

Yeah, Failure and my old band Medicine came up together, and Greg is a friend, and a monstrous player. We used to share a rehearsal studio. Ken (the singer/guitarist) is a very close friend, and I co-produced his latest solo record.

JMJ

What about Gomez? Abandoned Shopping Trolley Hotline has some cool stuff on it, and most of their other records are quite good too.

Yeah, Failure and my old band Medicine came up together, and Greg is a friend, and a monstrous player. We used to share a rehearsal studio. Ken (the singer/guitarist) is a very close friend, and I co-produced his latest solo record.

JMJ

Failure was such a great band. I really dig Magnified and Fantastic Planet, not to mention bootlegs with Troy Van Leeuwen on guitar - IMO, he added a great depth to their live sound.

Yeah I actually just noticed JMJ was thanked on the Fantastic Planet thank yous........

after doing some studio work for them, i was wondering what your take on Juan Alderete w/ the mars volta was? for the record, i dig both of your work w/ them.

also throwing fred smith out there...

Juan is sick. He took over for me in the LA band "Pet" that I was in for a minute. Great player, great person. We've also interacted when I remixed his band Big Sir. Inspiring to me.