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Slaine01
03-12-2002, 06:35 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a chart for Sweet Georgia Brown?
Someone stole my Real Book yesterday grrrrrrrr

Bill Brasky
03-12-2002, 07:50 PM
There is a copy of the real book (http://www.chez.com/realbookonline/encadrememt%201.0.htm) online.

if the link above doesn't work, just type in www.realbookonline.com

You can also get chord changes here (http://www.ralphpatt.com/Song.html) but they're less accurate than the stuff in the Real book sometimes. I didn't see Sweet Georgia Brown on the real book site, but it is on this one.

nicklloyd
04-27-2002, 07:28 PM
someone stole your realbook? that's great....
John Clayton (LA dbassist) tells everyone to get rid of their chord books. they do, and they have to memorize the tune. apparently everyone (except one student) thanked him later for that advice. :cool:

wellspal
05-12-2002, 11:03 PM
Here is the overly simplified chart I used just last Friday to play Sweet Georgia Brown.

D l D l G l G
C l C l F l F
D l D l G l G
FE l FE l FED#D l GCFF

anonymous0726
05-13-2002, 01:17 AM
I hope they call you again ;)

Marcus Johnson
05-13-2002, 11:38 AM
FE, FE? As the local boys say, "Hah?":confused:

anonymous0726
05-13-2002, 12:03 PM
That would be:

D-/F and A7/E, I guess. But judging from the chart, he would have been there ahead of time enough not to cause any further trouble :)

anonymous0726
05-13-2002, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Ed Fuqua
well, if you play a 16 bar tune at half time, it becomes a 32 bar tune, right?


I hadn't looked at it like that, nor would I have played it like that (initially, anyhow) without some 'instructions for use'...

wellspal
05-14-2002, 11:23 AM
This is how it is done on Stephane Grappelli's live in San Francisco. The F and the E are there. I think the bass player on that album is Rob Wasserman. I thought it was kind of obvious that the bass line was in "half" time. If you have the melody in your head that is. As the locals say around here if you think it's wrong why don't you just write out how you would do it?

anonymous0726
05-14-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by wellspal
As the locals say around here if you think it's wrong why don't you just write out how you would do it?
A strange local saying.


Sweet Georgia Brown

D7 | | | |
G7 | | | |
C7 | | | |
F | | |F7 E7 Eb7 D7 |
-----------------
D7 | | | |
G7 | | | |
C7 | | | |
D- |A7 |D- |A7 |
F E7 |Eb7 D7 |G-7 C7 |F (E7 Eb7 D7) |

brianrost
05-14-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by nicklloyd
John Clayton (LA dbassist) tells everyone to get rid of their chord books. they do, and they have to memorize the tune.

Chicken and the egg problem there...how do you memorize a tune you have no music for?

anonymous0726
05-14-2002, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by brianrost


Chicken and the egg problem there...how do you memorize a tune you have no music for?

By learning it the traditional way; playing with older/other players and learning tunes from recordings and performances. Jazz owes part of its roots to African oral traditions.

sean p
05-14-2002, 07:57 PM
taking tunes off recordings is a far superior way to learn than out of fake books, in a few important ways:

1) it trains your ear to recognize changes and methods of cooperation between players

2) gives you a perspective of what an actual group performance of the tune sounds like (this is invaluable when it comes to familiarizing oneself with the nuances of accenting melodies and phrasing associated with jazz)

3) i find i remember tunes better this way (whether this is because of muscle memory since i'm learning with my ears and fingers more than my eyes, or what, i don't know)

4) ear training like this often results in improved soloing ability for me

i heard a masterclass with mr. clayton a couple of years ago and have been focusing on learning tunes this way ever since. i love it.

sean p

Marcus Johnson
05-15-2002, 11:18 AM
Sorry for the omission; Ray's changes are how I'd write 'em. And in my home state of Wisconsin, where I spent my first 25 years, I never heard anyone say that; usually it was yet another request for a Jerry Jeff Walker tune of some sort.

wellspal
05-15-2002, 11:53 AM
It's a rather new local saying, just a few days old actually.

Wisconsin has moved on from Jerry Jeff.. Lynard Skynard is the rage.

Marcus Johnson
05-15-2002, 03:44 PM
I'm headin' home in about a month, can't wait! Beer and brats, fishin', and roads that actually go somewhere. My Dad is borrowing the old high school DB for me to play while I'm there; after 3 weeks of playing it, I'll have the Chops of Death.

Mike Goodbar
05-15-2002, 03:52 PM
Which corner of the Dairy State are ya from, dere hey?

Marcus Johnson
05-16-2002, 11:25 AM
Up North; born in Rhinelander, raised near Minocqua. I'm almost a Yooper: Mom makes a mean pasty.