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frede
05-28-2008, 11:26 PM
We were working on some new songs last weekend and someone came up with the song "In The Palm Of Your Hand", the Buck Owens version. It was suggested that I do a Country Bass Walk during the break. I tried a Western Swing Bass Walk, to no avail. I searched the web, but found nothing, so I was hoping someone here could an idea of how to play a Country Bass Walk in G.:bassist:

Steve Killingsworth
05-29-2008, 10:20 AM
Exactly what is a "country" bass walk? A half-note feel or something else? I've found in bluegrass that, for most tunes, walking in half notes seems to fit the music better than using quarter notes which sounds too busy.

I would suggest you try to base walking on the music and what the other players are doing rather than trying to fit it into someone's preconceived notion of what a walk should sound like.

wdave
05-29-2008, 10:44 AM
You can hear a sample of the tune @ http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1133122/a/Open+Up+Your+Heart.htm
(BTW, that's some great steel playing by Tom Brumbley)
Dave

MingusAmongUs
05-29-2008, 11:02 AM
You can hear a sample of the tune @ http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1133122/a/Open+Up+Your+Heart.htm
(BTW, that's some great steel playing by Tom Brumbley)
Dave

Well there you go. When in doubt, always find the original recording. And most of them can be found on the site linked above, or on Amazon. This one sounds like it doesn't walk at all. Just plays in 2, like about 95% of country & bluegrass. I'm no expert but I couldn't tell the difference between a "country walk" and a "western swing walk" if it bit me on the bottom. I have been playing with a group where 2 ladies sing great harmony. They do a lot of Patsy Cline stuff, and that has been almost all 4/4 walking. They usually like to hear your tried and true bass lines: 1-3-5-6-8-6-5-3, etc.

frede
05-30-2008, 03:35 PM
This is the walk I was talking about:

G B C C# D B A D
G B C C# D B A G
2x

ThunderLizard
05-30-2008, 03:44 PM
Frede-
If you're into the Bakersfield (or Buckersfield) sound pick up 'Dwight Sings Buck' by Dwight Yokum. A fine and heatfelt tribute to one of the greats.

wallydoesbass
05-30-2008, 11:01 PM
frede,
Check out the 1961's "Buck Owens" (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1133108).
Textbook country walking by Allen Williams.

martinc
06-02-2008, 05:26 PM
This is the walk I was talking about:

G B C C# D B A D
G B C C# D B A G
2x

frede:

The only walking I hear on the sample is between chords. The rest is straight 2.
Pick up a copy of Keith Rosier's "The Lost Art of Country Bass". It has all the country walking you will ever need including samples of Allen Williams and the great Bob Moore. Its in tab form so its easy to read. There's also a CD. You can find it at Elderly and on Amazon. I can't imagine a better book for this kind of music.

Couvy
06-02-2008, 07:21 PM
If someone asks for the "Ray Price" feel on walking bass, that usually is doubled with the piano left hand and it's straight up and down root third fifth third (with the occasional passing tone). It has it's own sort of groove to it when it's locked. That's the only walking besides western swing that's idiosyncratic to country that I can think of. The other patterns usually occur in regular pop/rock tunes from the 50's and 60's, nut just in country. I don't think I've heard 1-3-5-3 on every change anywhere else (at least not on a regular basis) except for maybe a jazz player who's never played changes before.

frede
06-13-2008, 05:53 PM
Pick up a copy of Keith Rosier's "The Lost Art of Country Bass". It has all the country walking you will ever need including samples of Allen Williams and the great Bob Moore. Its in tab form so its easy to read. There's also a CD. You can find it at Elderly and on Amazon. I can't imagine a better book for this kind of music.

Wow, great book! Thanks for the tip. I ended up with:

G B D E C E G A D F# A B G E D B
2x

Which would be 1-3-5-6
:hyper:

martinc
06-13-2008, 07:09 PM
Frede:

If it was not for that book when I got it 10 years ago, I probably would not be playing the bass now. I was mired in low level stuff that was getting me nowhere. It opened up a whole world of playing styles for me and the walking lines from Bob Moore (including that wonderful bass intro to "Crazy") and Allen Williams are just so adaptable and musical they will make anyone sound good:hyper:.
The electric bass examples from Glenn Worf and others are also useful for upright if you change a few of the note positions.
Keith also has a similar book on Jump and Blues.

mongo2
06-14-2008, 07:59 PM
You can hear a sample of the tune @ http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1133122/a/Open+Up+Your+Heart.htm
(BTW, that's some great steel playing by Tom Brumbley)
Dave

The brief sample of "Open Up Your Heart" sounds like a 2 feel with quarter note walkups to the chord changes. Or am I crazy?

I play like that on several tunes but I've never heard it called anything special.

wallydoesbass
06-14-2008, 08:44 PM
mongo2, try "Above and Beyond" at http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1133108

mongo2
06-15-2008, 06:04 AM
mongo2, try "Above and Beyond" at http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1133108

Yes, now that sample of "Above and Beyond" sounds more like something that could be called a country walk. We do that a lot too. :)

Thanks.

kg4muc
12-12-2008, 10:38 AM
If someone asks for the "Ray Price" feel on walking bass, that usually is doubled with the piano left hand and it's straight up and down root third fifth third (with the occasional passing tone). It has it's own sort of groove to it when it's locked. That's the only walking besides western swing that's idiosyncratic to country that I can think of. The other patterns usually occur in regular pop/rock tunes from the 50's and 60's, nut just in country. I don't think I've heard 1-3-5-3 on every change anywhere else (at least not on a regular basis) except for maybe a jazz player who's never played changes before.

That is some easy listening for sure :)

Joe Zinkan sort of set the standard for the shuffle walking technique used on a lot of Ray's material..
I always loved the notes Junior Huskey played too..always low and always on time!

Wt