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jordan_frerichs
06-25-2008, 01:47 AM
made a quick pencil sketch of what i was thinking for build #2. i am liking it what do you think? open to ALL opinions, suggestions, comments, critism, ect.

Siegy
06-25-2008, 01:58 AM
You definitely need to refine the sketch. Are the black shapes supposed to be like f-holes? Maybe you should make them symmetrical.

jordan_frerichs
06-25-2008, 02:04 AM
some things will probably change, but for now, here are the specs on the design:
- strings: 4
- fretting: fretless with full fretlines on harmonic frets 5, 7, 12, and 24, and partial lines on all other frets (not sure exactly how i want to lay those out. thinking on it) the fb cuts off on the treble side for slap purposes, plus sweet looks
- neck through
- single cut hollowed/chambered
- custum "f" holes. really digging these
- tuner style: clover
- pup config.: jazz

Woods and hardware:
- fingerboard: bloodwood w/ maple or beech lines
- neck body center: really sappy walnut and bloodwood
- body wood: ash and walnut strips
- top: spalted maple with bloodwood binding on the holes
- accent line: bloodwood
- bridge: thinking a fender style heavy Gotoh
- pups: basslines QP jazz

all in all i am really digging the shape of the headstock, the body, the fb end, the holes, and the look all around. please let me know if it looks way to simalar to someone elses work, so i can mod it/ get permision. hate just stealing others creativty.

thanx for taking the time to look:):bassist::ninja:

jordan_frerichs
06-25-2008, 02:09 AM
You definitely need to refine the sketch. Are the black shapes supposed to be like f-holes? Maybe you should make them symmetrical.

lol i did this on my breaks at burger king, so there is minor grease smuges. tried to clean it up as much as my crappy computer would let me. i was going for something diffenent with the holes. if you bring the neck-side set together, it is like a yin-yang sign, and on the bridge set, it is the same, only the halves face from each other. all of the people i have showed it to, say that the holes are the best part. thanx for input.:)

Jensby design
06-25-2008, 02:37 AM
looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up

jordan_frerichs
06-25-2008, 02:42 AM
looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up

lmao. seriously. u like?

joeyl
06-25-2008, 05:39 AM
looks like a 4year old drew it ! oh its Jordan , hey buddy whats up

:p

contakt321
06-25-2008, 08:31 AM
Hey man,

I like the shape and it definitely looks unique.

A few thoughts:

the fb cuts off on the treble side for slap purposes, plus sweet looks

- single cut hollowed/chambered

- pup config.: jazz

- top: spalted maple with bloodwood binding on the holes

- pups: basslines QP jazz


Re: Fingerboard:
Do you plan on slapping much on a fretless semi-hollowbody? If you do, by all means. Otherwise, I think having the fingerboard extend on the treble side would be much more useful.

Re: Semi-Hollow / Spalted Maple:
I am no luthier, but just wanted to ask; is there any issues with the instability of spalted maple over a semi-hollow body?

Re: Pickups:
I have always heard that Quarter Pounders are loud and aggressive. You might consider something that will pick up the nuances of a fretless better. (Please note I am going off what I have heard, not personal experience, I don't own any basses w/ QPs).

Re: F-holes: I too agree that they should be symmetrical on the top and bottom half of the body.

Just my thoughts. I am definitely looking forward to this build.

bassteban
06-25-2008, 08:36 AM
The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest. :atoz:

Mon Rominee
06-25-2008, 08:44 AM
Odd, the headstock is the feature I dislike the most...

The body is *ok*, but I dig the direction it's headed.

All I gotta say is sometimes different isn't always good.

contakt321
06-25-2008, 09:16 AM
Odd, the headstock is the feature I dislike the most...



I think the headstock should have the same shape as the body to tie it together more.

jordan_frerichs
06-26-2008, 03:28 AM
Hey man,

I like the shape and it definitely looks unique.

A few thoughts:



Re: Fingerboard:
Do you plan on slapping much on a fretless semi-hollowbody? If you do, by all means. Otherwise, I think having the fingerboard extend on the treble side would be much more useful.

Re: Semi-Hollow / Spalted Maple:
I am no luthier, but just wanted to ask; is there any issues with the instability of spalted maple over a semi-hollow body?

Re: Pickups:
I have always heard that Quarter Pounders are loud and aggressive. You might consider something that will pick up the nuances of a fretless better. (Please note I am going off what I have heard, not personal experience, I don't own any basses w/ QPs).

Re: F-holes: I too agree that they should be symmetrical on the top and bottom half of the body.

Just my thoughts. I am definitely looking forward to this build.

thanx for all the input man, really appreciate it. i am not dependant on slap, because i suck at it, but it i am working on it. to be honest i mainly play punk music, witch is pick territory, but i thought it would be sweet to have at least 1 frettless. just curious, what benifets would there be with the fb having the extension on the treble side?
i am not that experienced either, as this one will only be my second build. i imagine the spalted maple would glue just like any other woods. the rotting that occurs in it, happend when the tree is alive, and it gets sick. should sound klike any other maple unless i am missing something. as far as the pups go: yeah, i am still thinking on this, if i want a classic fretless tone, or something a little more punchy. still thinking on it.
the holes: i will make another sketch to see if they look better like that. jensby design gave mne an idea that i am thinking over. instead of having the holes be completely cut out, cut them out, and before i glue the top on, glue a piece of blood wood under the top where the f-holes are cut out, so that the holes are covered on the inside with bloodwood.

jordan_frerichs
06-26-2008, 03:30 AM
The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest. :atoz:

yeah. thanx didn't think of that. if i do the point i will rember to give it a nice contour

JehuJava
06-26-2008, 03:31 AM
The pointy top edge looks unfriendly- at least to my scrawny chest. :atoz:

I thought the same thing.

jordan_frerichs
06-26-2008, 04:19 AM
i just stumbled across this. might be cool for the bridge pup.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JAZZ-FAT-HUMBUCKER-PICKUP-FOR-FENDER-BASS-GUITAR-P-NEW_W0QQitemZ290240528786QQihZ019QQcategoryZ22670Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

antiunderscores
06-26-2008, 04:22 AM
looks interesting, you will see on a post im making that i made a little cartoon version of my bass, i can do that for this if you like so you can see it more clearly and then easily tell me what your thoughts are and i can change it. I'll start on it now whether you want me to or not and you can just tell me the colour/s and i'll add them in. Looks different though, could either turn out great or crap depending on how clean its made

l337r3nn
06-26-2008, 09:02 AM
thanx for all the input man, really appreciate it. i am not dependant on slap, because i suck at it, but it i am working on it. to be honest i mainly play punk music, witch is pick territory, but i thought it would be sweet to have at least 1 frettless. just curious, what benifets would there be with the fb having the extension on the treble side?
i am not that experienced either, as this one will only be my second build. i imagine the spalted maple would glue just like any other woods. the rotting that occurs in it, happend when the tree is alive, and it gets sick. should sound klike any other maple unless i am missing something. as far as the pups go: yeah, i am still thinking on this, if i want a classic fretless tone, or something a little more punchy. still thinking on it.
the holes: i will make another sketch to see if they look better like that. jensby design gave mne an idea that i am thinking over. instead of having the holes be completely cut out, cut them out, and before i glue the top on, glue a piece of blood wood under the top where the f-holes are cut out, so that the holes are covered on the inside with bloodwood.

i have a coupple suggestions for you. first of all, that design would look much better if the body were to scale better wiht the necck. second, i really dont think hollowbody is what you want for punk. and for that tone versatility to sound smooth or have punch, might i suggest cherry? sounnds like a midway between maple and mahogany, and has been used in luthiery for centuries.

Mon Rominee
06-26-2008, 10:56 AM
The shape kinda reminds me of the old Tokai Talbos...
http://www.dustbowl.co.jp/new_guitar/g_image/tokai/talbo_a123sg.jpg

antiunderscores
06-27-2008, 02:20 AM
i have a coupple suggestions for you. first of all, that design would look much better if the body were to scale better wiht the necck. second, i really dont think hollowbody is what you want for punk. and for that tone versatility to sound smooth or have punch, might i suggest cherry? sounnds like a midway between maple and mahogany, and has been used in luthiery for centuries.

you can use a semi acoustic bass for punk. There is a band from new Zealand called shihad and he uses a semi acoustic. They arent punk but they are rock. Check out the bass sound on "Shot in the head" its top notch!

antiunderscores
06-27-2008, 04:50 AM
heres a little cartoon version i made of this if you want to get a better idea of what it will look like, i just enjoy doing this when i have ideas because it looks nice and clean. what you think? if any of you guys want me to draw a bass idea you had like this just ask. and if there is something you want me to fix up on the picture jordan, like the colour, just ask. cheers

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5379/guysbassfg2.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guysbassfg2.jpg)

jordan_frerichs
06-27-2008, 07:52 AM
i have a coupple suggestions for you. first of all, that design would look much better if the body were to scale better wiht the necck. second, i really dont think hollowbody is what you want for punk. and for that tone versatility to sound smooth or have punch, might i suggest cherry? sounnds like a midway between maple and mahogany, and has been used in luthiery for centuries.

yeah. luckily it is not exactly a blueprint, so that will be worked out inthe build. yeah. not all my projects have to be made for punk;) (1st buid, that is getting wrapped up is, though). i like the look of cherry. have not used it yet, but plan to. my school can order it, actually (doing this as a school project). i just thought it would be cheaper to do it with ash, but if i can, i will totally do the cherry. thanx.

jordan_frerichs
06-27-2008, 07:57 AM
heres a little cartoon version i made of this if you want to get a better idea of what it will look like, i just enjoy doing this when i have ideas because it looks nice and clean. what you think? if any of you guys want me to draw a bass idea you had like this just ask. and if there is something you want me to fix up on the picture jordan, like the colour, just ask. cheers

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5379/guysbassfg2.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guysbassfg2.jpg)

thanx. that really help. btw, could you make the fb red with lines at frets 5, 7, and 12?, and the body more like spalt maple, if possible. i was wondering about the cutouts. could you make one where they are symetrical on each side, one where they have a red rig around them, and one, where instead of being cut out, they are just red?

jordan_frerichs
06-27-2008, 07:59 AM
The shape kinda reminds me of the old Tokai Talbos...
http://www.dustbowl.co.jp/new_guitar/g_image/tokai/talbo_a123sg.jpg

i can see how. haven't seen that before.

Jensby design
06-27-2008, 10:32 AM
wow jordan I think your the only person who will put 3 POST IN A ROE ON YOUR OWN THREAD
looks like a fun project I can wait for you to get started :hyper:
yeah said "I can wait",you want to fight about it

Jensby design
06-27-2008, 10:39 AM
wow jordan I think your the only person who will put 3 POST IN A ROE ON YOUR OWN THREAD

never mind yellow did it too.
I really need to stop posting when I have nothing to say.

jordan_frerichs
06-28-2008, 06:00 AM
wow jordan I think your the only person who will put 3 POST IN A ROE ON YOUR OWN THREAD
looks like a fun project I can wait for you to get started :hyper:
yeah said "I can wait",you want to fight about it

lmao. sweet sig btw (HAHAHAH. you need a shirt that says that:hiding:). i was rethinking a few options. the body will be cherry, if i can get the school to order a good amount. the wood choice will be wraped around the concept maple/light colored wood and bloodwood combo (exept for the sappy neck. thats a "just because" thing:smug:. might save it for another neck, and do a purpleheart and bloodwood neck, with super thin strips of maple between the laminates). so maybe i will not do a spalted top, but definately something cool looking and light colored. at menards, their is a creamy white piece of cherry with insane grainging i might snatch up for the top (don'r steal it from under me clayton, or i will go :ninja: on you) i think i am going to make the body slightly (maybe somewhere around an inch, give or take) deeper than usual to go with the hollowing. i am playing around with the idea of making it a five string, but i have never owed a 5 (or a fretless, or a hollow), and it might be to overwhelming to add too many things i am unfamiliar with in the same project. i think i am going to do some maple binding around the fb.

jordan_frerichs
06-28-2008, 04:16 PM
crap. is it just me, or does anything else think this looks a little to much like nomad's basses? might have to redesign a little bit....

jordan_frerichs
07-05-2008, 12:15 AM
k, did a little more planing. I plan to use this as my main jazz bass when i join jazz band. body thickness will be 2+", body wings will be cherry, hopefully with thin black walnut accents between each peace, top will either be flamed maple, or nicely grained cherry. ironwood nut (also going to look into wooden bridge sytems, no promises though ;)). neck through will have a slight angle, and will be bloodwood and purpleheart, with a thin flamed maple veener between each laminate. havent decided if the cutouts will be filled or open, but if they are filled i will fill them with bloodwood, with a purpleheart ring outside that, also thinking about having them open, but ringing there sides alternating with purpleheart and bloodwood. with the fingerboard, also decided to add an extension for looks purposes, on the treble side, that runs along the edge.

Jensby design
07-05-2008, 02:11 AM
3 POST IN A ROE ON YOUR OWN THREAD

Yep he's at it again :rolleyes:

Jensby design
07-05-2008, 02:58 AM
(don'r steal it from under me clayton, or i will go :ninja: on you)

Like I could really afford to steal it from under you. . .
Wait isn't stealing free :rolleyes:. . .I mean illegal :scowl:
There I go again posting with nothing say :rollno:

jordan_frerichs
07-05-2008, 01:05 PM
you also qouted yourself