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olps
04-18-2002, 08:11 PM
I'm thinking of playing birdland with some friends. Would this sound good on a fretted bass? Also, is there anything I should know (i.e. any effects that are used and what not)? Thanks so much.

Richard Lindsey
04-18-2002, 10:00 PM
If you want to play it, play it. If you don't have a fretless, who cares? I've played it on both fretted and fretless, and I've even heard it done (well) on tuba. Playing *the tune* well is more important than the specific instrument. Play good notes with good time, tone, and feel, and the rest is gravy.

jazzbo
04-19-2002, 03:09 AM
Ever heard the version Manhattan Transfer did, with lyrics: "Bird made, Bird played, way down in Birdland."


They should be shot. A lot.

Bruce Lindfield
04-19-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by olps
I'm thinking of playing birdland with some friends. Would this sound good on a fretted bass? Also, is there anything I should know (i.e. any effects that are used and what not)? Thanks so much.

I actually think that the articial harmonics bit at the beginning is easier to play on fretted bass and I know that Jaco used a fretted bass on a lot of gigs with WR - but as has been mentioned - you don't have to play it exactly as a particular recording.

Weather Report played it differently live, to in the studio - Jaco plays more of a walking bass line on 8.30.

I would love to do a version with all horns taking the place of Zawinul's synths or even hear such a version!

thrash_jazz
04-19-2002, 10:13 AM
I used to do that one in high school jazz band. There's no reason why it can't sound good on a fretted bass. I don't know whether any effects were used on the original recording, but why not just play it your way?

XavierG
04-19-2002, 12:39 PM
I prefer my fretted bass for "Birdland". Do a search for "Birdland" (here in the forums) and you'll find some tips - mostly dealing with the false harmonic intro.

Bruce - some months ago, when I posted the question re: harmonic volume, it was because I was asked to play the bass for "Birdland" with a 'horn band' - drums - 2 trombones - 2 tumpets. It sounded great! We're doing it again in early May - I'll try and record it for you.