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RedCoatMonster
08-03-2008, 03:34 PM
I took my bass to be setup and all cleaned up the other day, and to my dismay I found out my neck is out of adjustment. Its a 93 SDGR800..what do I do now? Ive never had this problem before, so do I need a new neck or what? And if so, how do I go about getting one?

Joshua
08-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Perhaps your answer lies here? (http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125382)

RMay
08-03-2008, 07:06 PM
post reads as if you need to adjust the truss rod. ^^^ follow the link provided by Joshua. If you are not comfortable with setting up your bass then take it to a qualified professional Luthier. Basic setups usually cost 50-80 USD.

RedCoatMonster
08-04-2008, 12:10 AM
post reads as if you need to adjust the truss rod. ^^^ follow the link provided by Joshua. If you are not comfortable with setting up your bass then take it to a qualified professional Luthier. Basic setups usually cost 50-80 USD.

"I found out my neck is out of adjustment.":rolleyes:

RMay
08-04-2008, 10:53 AM
Oops, sorry. Geez,I was trying to help and in return i received an negative attitude. good luck

ReidK
08-04-2008, 12:13 PM
"I found out my neck is out of adjustment.":rolleyes:

The problem is that you need to be a little more specific about exactly what "out of adjustment" means. There are only two things on a neck that can be adjusted: relief and tilt (tilt is only adjustable on a bolt-on neck, which I believe yours is). Relief is adjusted with the truss rod, and tilt is adjusted either by shimming or by a tilt screw if there is one (and yours doesn't have one, IIRC). Both of these are easy operations to do, and both are usually considered part of a setup, so it's a little odd that you say you took the bass in for a setup and were told that the neck was "out of adjustment". Can you provide a little more information?

Reid

BruceWane
08-04-2008, 12:40 PM
"I found out my neck is out of adjustment.":rolleyes:

Rather than copping an attitude toward people that are trying to help you, you might want to clarify what you mean.

When one says their neck is "out of adjustment", they usually mean that their neck needs to be adjusted.

I think perhaps you mean to say that your neck is adjusted as far as it will go - i.e., the truss rod nut is bottomed out and the neck still has too much relief.

Is that what you mean?

Rathead123
08-04-2008, 12:49 PM
I took my bass to be setup and all cleaned up the other day, and to my dismay I found out my neck is out of adjustment.

Aint that part of a "setup" adjusting the neck?

Benjamin Strange
08-04-2008, 01:20 PM
Aint that part of a "setup" adjusting the neck?

Did the person you had set it up for you provide no information as to what was wrong? "Needing adjustment" could mean a great many different things to different people.

What exactly is wrong with your neck?

Mytola
08-04-2008, 01:30 PM
I have a feeling that the problem is that the trussrod is maxed?

Joshua
08-04-2008, 07:29 PM
Deep breaths everybody, tone is tough to read sometimes on the intraweb.

To the OP: in the link I posted follow it to the Fender Setup guide (Mr. Gearhead) and use the instruction therein to measure your relief and let us know what it is.

We'll guide you from there. Know in advance, we might tell you to continue to follow the instructions if an adjustment is needed so at a minimum finish that whole section (it's brief) in the guide...

RedCoatMonster
08-04-2008, 10:42 PM
I have a feeling that the problem is that the trussrod is maxed?

Yes sir. I was out of town with my girlfriend when it was ready so her dad went to get it and said the guy told him it was maxed out.

And by the way, I wasnt trying to be rude. There is no tone of voice for text so my bad if I came off badly.

RedCoatMonster
08-04-2008, 10:43 PM
Alrighty, Ill do that just in case he was wrong.

Deep breaths everybody, tone is tough to read sometimes on the intraweb.

To the OP: in the link I posted follow it to the Fender Setup guide (Mr. Gearhead) and use the instruction therein to measure your relief and let us know what it is.

We'll guide you from there. Know in advance, we might tell you to continue to follow the instructions if an adjustment is needed so at a minimum finish that whole section (it's brief) in the guide...

RedCoatMonster
08-04-2008, 10:46 PM
I took it in and told them that I needed a full setup(truss rods terrify me haha, I know its silly) and left it with them while I went out of town. When I came back my girlfriends dad had picked it up for me and told me they couldnt get the action nice and low because he couldnt adjust the neck any more.

The problem is that you need to be a little more specific about exactly what "out of adjustment" means. There are only two things on a neck that can be adjusted: relief and tilt (tilt is only adjustable on a bolt-on neck, which I believe yours is). Relief is adjusted with the truss rod, and tilt is adjusted either by shimming or by a tilt screw if there is one (and yours doesn't have one, IIRC). Both of these are easy operations to do, and both are usually considered part of a setup, so it's a little odd that you say you took the bass in for a setup and were told that the neck was "out of adjustment". Can you provide a little more information?

Reid

Zooberwerx
08-05-2008, 02:34 PM
I took it in and told them that I needed a full setup(truss rods terrify me haha, I know its silly) and left it with them while I went out of town. When I came back my girlfriends dad had picked it up for me and told me they couldnt get the action nice and low because he couldnt adjust the neck any more.

Gotcha! Could be you have a bad neck...could be you have a bad tech (yes, they do exist). Let's do this one step at a time. Your girlfriend can help. First off, fret the the low E or low B string at the 1st and 17th frets...gently! Now, how much space do you see between the string and the 9th fret? The gap should be no more than the thickness of 1-2 business cards.

Okay, let's leave it at that. We'll wait until you get back to us and continue from there.

Riis

RedCoatMonster
08-05-2008, 03:12 PM
There is less that the thickness of a business card, maybe like a hair's thickness.

Gotcha! Could be you have a bad neck...could be you have a bad tech (yes, they do exist). Let's do this one step at a time. Your girlfriend can help. First off, fret the the low E or low B string at the 1st and 17th frets...gently! Now, how much space do you see between the string and the 9th fret? The gap should be no more than the thickness of 1-2 business cards.

Okay, let's leave it at that. We'll wait until you get back to us and continue from there.

Riis

Zooberwerx
08-05-2008, 07:56 PM
There is less that the thickness of a business card, maybe like a hair's thickness.

Sounds like the neck is too straight which corroborates the tech's claim that the truss rod is maxed out. Not good! If a neck is too straight, you'll end up with fret buzz all over the place. The conventional wisdom is to then raise all the string saddles to compensate resulting in higher action. Kind of a vicious circle, isn't it?

You'll need to relax the truss rod and drop some addt'l relief (bow) into the neck. Is the truss rod nut / adjustment at the heel or headstock? Do you have the correct tools (probably an allen wrench)? Give us an answer and we'll move onto the next step.

Riis

RedCoatMonster
08-05-2008, 08:35 PM
I dont have any here, I do at home but I wont be home for about anouther 9 days. It is in playable condition, it was before I had it taken in for a setup but due to the issues you just talked about the action is high, especially from about the 10th-24th fret. I hate super high action... :hmm:
Thanks for the replies btw. :)

Sounds like the neck is too straight which corroborates the tech's claim that the truss rod is maxed out. Not good! If a neck is too straight, you'll end up with fret buzz all over the place. The conventional wisdom is to then raise all the string saddles to compensate resulting in higher action. Kind of a vicious circle, isn't it?

You'll need to relax the truss rod and drop some addt'l relief (bow) into the neck. Is the truss rod nut / adjustment at the heel or headstock? Do you have the correct tools (probably an allen wrench)? Give us an answer and we'll move onto the next step.

Riis

Zooberwerx
08-06-2008, 05:29 AM
I dont have any here, I do at home but I wont be home for about anouther 9 days. It is in playable condition, it was before I had it taken in for a setup but due to the issues you just talked about the action is high, especially from about the 10th-24th fret. I hate super high action... :hmm:
Thanks for the replies btw. :)

'kay. Let's put this on the back burner until you get home, then revive the thread. In the meantime, buy yourself a nice set of std. and metric allen wrenches if you don't have them already. No reason you can't adjust your own truss rod with some degree of confidence. Its a seasonal issue, trust me!

Riis