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Rockin John
05-01-2002, 07:01 AM
As a total newbie at the art of reading music, I decided on a simplified version of Bach's Air on a G string for my first attempt. I selected that piece because I'd learned to play it by ear so would know how it sounds.

I sight read the piece with quite some difficulty, wondering why the written music sounded nothing like the same piece I'd learned. I concluded that I'd played it properly to Bach's score and that the 'by ear' version was wrong.

It wasn't until the following day that I realised the key signature contains two sharps :eek: so that when I did it again with the naturals sharpened.....it sounded correct.

Just goes to show. :eek: :D :eek:

John

gruffpuppy
05-01-2002, 08:15 AM
I have done the same thing. Sometimes I hear things up a fourth or a fifth.

Still working on improving that. :D

chrisbs
05-01-2002, 05:41 PM
the thing about reading is it is nice to be able to fall back on the score for authenticity.
However, with classical composers, editors sometimes transpose their editions.
So you have to take all of it with a grain of salt

http://www.fretland.com

td1368
05-02-2002, 12:28 PM
Hey keep it up. I'm strugling with sight reading as well. One of the great benefits that never gets brought up in the tab/reading debates is the ability to play something on another instrument. I think its pretty cool to sit in front of a piano and not be completely dumfounded.

JimK
05-02-2002, 04:27 PM
Rockin' J-
Sounds as though you were goin' modal... ;)

When the mood hits, I'll practice a melody(or figure) like that.
Example: If the melody is in the Key of "C"...I'll practice that melody, say, beginning on the 3rd degree, "E" (STAY IN THE KEY OF "C"!).
Doing such alters where the whole &/or 1/2 steps fall...basically accomplishing what you experienced by omitting those two sharps. ;)

cassanova
05-04-2002, 02:32 PM
I do that myself sometimes, especially when the key signatures loaded with sharps or flats, i just forget what some of them are and play the note as a natural.

Rockin John
05-05-2002, 04:16 PM
Err, sorry Jim, Cass, but I've no idea what you mean...

Sorry:confused:

John

JimK
05-05-2002, 06:55 PM
RJ-
Take a simple melody like "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" & play it in the Key of "C" Major. Starting on the tonic("C")-
The 1st couple bars would be(in 1/8th note phrasing)-
lCCGGAAG_lFFEEDDC_l

Now, still in the Key of "C" Major, begin on the 3rd degree("E"). The melody now becomes-
lEEBBCCB_lAAGGFFE_l

Recall, in the Key of "C" Major...NO Sharps & NO Flats.

Make sense?
...or why would anyone in their right mind wanna do this?!

;)

Anyone ever practice reading backwards(right-to-left)?
Or upside-down?

;)

ryan morris
05-12-2002, 11:36 PM
Ha, reading backwards would really be crazy. You'd never know what Key you were in 'till you got to the end, some of the dynamics would simply be afterthoughts, and the piece would be...fun.

edited to say (my original purpose of posting) that yeah, I've tried it with some of my old saxaphone music that was always easy.

Groovin_Joe
05-13-2002, 12:16 PM
on the whole reading backwards thing. it is harder that you think, even if you know what key your in and apply it to the song/excercise then it is still difficult. Now playing upsidedown is a new one for me.

On the idea if a song has tons of #'s or flats then a good idea i use sometimes if it is just me and a guitarist playing is to write it into a music writing program and transpose it to another key and if you do the chords the same interval then everthing will be ok and no one will know the difference. For example: Donna Lee by (charlie Parker) or Jaco as we all know. is in the key of A-flat. Not very nice with 4 flats. a little rewriting and a little majic it is now in G with one # (up a dim 4th i think or a 4th)

I hope that helps.confused: :confused:

"you can't hold no groove if you ain't got no pocket":

JimK
05-13-2002, 04:32 PM
...the whole thing about reading 'backwards'-
If I'm reading something in a walk(like from the Aebersold books), without fail, my ears will kick in...meaning I'm not really 'reading' anymore. Muscle memory & playing by rote enters the picture.

Reading the lines 'backwards', FME, forces one to concentrate what's written on the paper.
You may hear some 'outside' things goin' on...but the harmony is still there(sorta). ;)

ldiezman
05-13-2002, 10:38 PM
Ahh there was nothing like sitting in the middle of rehearsal and the Band Director yelling out "thats (note) sharp!..... how many times do I have to say that blah blah blah..." :)


Never to me of course ;)