This is a search-engine-friendly text mirror of the TalkBass Forums

VIEW FULL LIVE VERSION : $2,000 from Scott Thunes


armywalaby
11-29-2008, 05:29 AM
I was recently reading an interview with Scott Thunes and he was talking about some of his technique that confused me. Here's the quote:

"I was given jazz lessons at an early age. One of my bass teachers taught me how to listen to Ron Carter playing behind Sonny Rollins, and I later utilized a concept I learned-adding tone chords-in rock. Most of the time when I'm playing weird stuff against normal-sounding stuff, I'm adding a whole other chord. That's similar to polytonal or bitonal classical music, and jazz, because a lot of jazz chords are just one chord superimposed over a solo bass note or another chord. It's the simplest thing in the world. I just gave away $2,000 worth of lessons."

I'm a bit of a theory retard, so is there anyone out there that can break it down barney style and tell me what he's talking about? Thanks in advance.

Daniel Trolie
11-30-2008, 03:29 AM
It is what he says; If my keyboard player plays a D Minor(D F A), I can play another chord over the D, F.ex. a C Major(C E D). If you try it on a Piano, you'l hear that it sounds and nice jazzy.
It won't work out as well on a bass if you try to play all the chord tones simultaneously, so try to play the chord as an arpeggio.
DT

armywalaby
11-30-2008, 05:35 AM
But wait, wouldn't there be some kind of theory rules here? I dunno.....like only playing a chord where the root exists in the other chord? Sorry, I'm a theory retard.

Daniel Trolie
11-30-2008, 08:24 AM
You can play any chord over another, some just don't sounds as nice;) The best way to approach is to play (bi)chords with notes within the main Chord's scale.
F.ex. the C over a D Minor, the C contains only scale notes from the D- chord's scale(which is the D Minor Scale).

See here, we got the D Minor scale, and the bold letters are the notes from a C Major Chord:
D E F G A Bb C D
Get it?:)

armywalaby
11-30-2008, 03:19 PM
Yessir, thanks again.

bassrique
11-30-2008, 05:59 PM
Too much thinking IMO.

fretlessman71
11-30-2008, 06:03 PM
Too much thinking IMO.

Oh, and I supposed your GUITARIST is going to do the thinking in your band? :eyebrow:

Face it, friends'n'neighbors, thinking in the band is OUR job.

armywalaby
11-30-2008, 11:35 PM
I suppose you're right, unless it's jazz. I think everyone get to think there, but then again, I don't know what I'm talking about cuz I've never played in a jazz band.

Daniel Trolie
12-01-2008, 02:34 PM
I guess the technique is good for fattening up boring chords...
Scott was one of the best...