Now, I don't know how to go about initiating this, I suppose capital would be needed to produce the CDs; but I think a compilation CD, from Talkbass members, with profits going to Talkbass, would be a good idea. I know we have enough tech savvy people here that we would be able to figure out a way to do this inexpensively. It could be sold on the site's homepage. I know that I would purchase it.

I really like that idea. I would buy that cd.

but wouldn't it need to be at least 2(or maybe 4) cds? there are so many talkbassers that have some songs on mp3. I can even put a song on there after june 20th! :)

I like that idea, and I can also put a song there after June 20th..

I'm in!!!

I like the idea, but how would we decide who would be on it? There are over 20,000 members, after all!

DREGS MOCHA,

I think there would be a rather large clamour for submission - just look at the member mp3 thread, and the number of submissions there. At a guess, I'd say at least a few hundred people would want to submit...

How would we pare this down? I can't think of any possible method that wouldn't be biased in some way or another.

I like the order-then-burn idea - I think that is probably the best option.

As for the artwork, I think my vocalist's 7-year-old half-sister should get to draw it in pink crayon. :eek:

Well, to avoid paying royalties, perhaps we can limit all submitted material to only originals. Besides which, unless it's a very "artistic rendition" I think most would want to hear original music, and have the ability to increase circulation for their compositions.

As Talkbass is a community, I don't know if it would be terribly fair if someone were to sign up and then just submit work, trying to get exposure. Perhaps submissions can be limited to supporting members only, and although it's not a glamorous option, another choice could be only members with a certain post count.

I think we would have enough material to produce one jazz CD, one miscellaneous rock CD, and perhaps one other genre.

Good idea! but..
Would they be solo acts or actual songs created and performed by a members band. If it were a group thing, we would need all members (of the band) permission.

There are over 20,000 people on TalkBass, but only roughly 1000 of them are active and post frequently. Perhaps we could have one with supporting members (yes i know i just shot myself in the foot there).

Other than that, good idea!

Good idea,

Devils advocate on
but if I wanted a CD with members' songs on it, I would just click the Member MP3's icon (which now that I look at it, is gramatically incorrect) and burn it. I'd imagine that most of the people that would sign up for this has probably already submitted their song onto the Member MP3's area.
/Devils advocate

You would have to have a limit on songs per artist...you cant have some bands full lenght cd on there...but like 2 or 3 per artist...copyright permission would be a pain too...but if you could work all the kinks out of it that be something i'd buy...or donate a song or 2 to. but hopefully smash updates the Talkbass station so i'll be on there soon...!

There are just so many members that really each person could only have one song. Then we'd run into a problem with an example like JT's Versatile Residue, (I hope I got that right!). It's over 12 minutes. I have a song I'd love to submit, that's around 9 minutes. But we just couldn't do anything that long. It wouldn't be fair. Perhaps a time limit on the songs. 2 - 6 minutes only.

I don't see why there would be a problem with solo acts versus bands. Originally, my idea was songs from members' bands, but a number of TBers do significant solo work. Although the superlative work of Mike Dimin and Steve Lawson would be amazing, they are professionals, and it might be better to leave this project to non-TB pros.

So, perhaps it could be for supporting members only. We could do a 2 disc set for BG and perhaps one for DB. While the mix would certainly be eclectic, with a 2 disc set for BG you have a slightly better chance of keeping each CD a little closer to one broad genre. The DB CD would probably be a mix of jazz and classical, which works well I think.

So, for a BG double CD, you could probably handle about 35 songs or so. Which means many submissions might not make it. We would have to figure out who chose which songs make it, and how. Suggestions?

Originally posted by jazzbo

So, for a BG double CD, you could probably handle about 35 songs or so. Which means many submissions might not make it. We would have to figure out who chose which songs make it, and how. Suggestions?

We could do the good ol fashion "Which one sounds better." But then feelingsget hurt, and some people have a bias to certain music, etc.

Maybe some sort of contest? Maybe not. I dunno, I really don't see anyway of doing this without someones feelings getting hurt. Damnit why can't we be as uncaring as tabcrawler? :D

Ya...like a different cd for different genra would be good. Are we talking like...distrubuting this stuff or just around tb? depending on the amount of cd's i know a place here in hawaii that does cd burning/packaging/labeling for pretty cheap. if anybody knows some good distributers we have more than enough material for several cd's in each genra...we'd just have to have a focal point for operations, supporters, a group of people to manage the money...so on and so forth. But if we could get this together im sure between the 20,000 of us we could get some seriously good stuff out.

-cap

Why not have a lottery open to supporting members?

Maybe a new compilation each year, with last year's winners ineligible.

An mp3 compilation will enable roughly 150-180 tracks to fit on a single disc (encoded at 128kbps).

Originally posted by submelodic
An mp3 compilation will enable roughly 150-180 tracks to fit on a single disc (encoded at 128kbps).


But that limits buyers to only those who have MP3 players.


I support the "supporting member" idea. Only supporting members will be allowed to submit their music for the CD. If there's too many for that, then I say paul just randomly (or maybe not so randomly, who cares) picks who goes on the first volume. We can always do it more than once if it turns out good, right?

Originally posted by SpankBass
Good idea,

Devils advocate on
but if I wanted a CD with members' songs on it, I would just click the Member MP3's icon (which now that I look at it, is gramatically incorrect) and burn it. I'd imagine that most of the people that would sign up for this has probably already submitted their song onto the Member MP3's area.
/Devils advocate

Fair point, but not everyone has a CD writer, or a good enough collection or computer to let them dowload as many songs as they'd like. Personally, I'd rather buy a CD than sit for hours downloading all the songs I'd like to.

I think mp3s are a good idea too - it's a safe bet that anyone who saw the ad would have access to a computer, that computer probably has a sound card, we could point someone at a free mp3 player, and we could point them to a free ripper if they want to record some of the songs to audio cd.I think mp3 might be the way to go.

I'm wondering if there would be enough interest for a CD full of MP3's, given mp3.com and other sites...

I dunno, paul -

I know you'd sell at least one - I don't wanna track down all those mp3s and make my own CD :D

I'd prefer traditional wavs on a CD personally. I can pop it into the car, my boom box, my stereo. I'm definitely not thinking mass distribution, the administrative burdens would be intense. I'm only thinking of something advertised at the site, to benefit the site. If they're easy enough to produce, perhaps we can just keep doing "volumes."

Talkbass Member CD Vol. I
Talkbass Member CD Vol. II
...etc.

Durrl has enough material to produce one for the DB side already. I'm sure we can get something together for BG.

Maybe just 3 genres.

Originally posted by jazzbo
I'd prefer traditional wavs on a CD personally. I can pop it into the car, my boom box, my stereo. I'm definitely not thinking mass distribution, the administrative burdens would be intense. I'm only thinking of something advertised at the site, to benefit the site. If they're easy enough to produce, perhaps we can just keep doing "volumes."

Talkbass Member CD Vol. I
Talkbass Member CD Vol. II
...etc.

Durrl has enough material to produce one for the DB side already. I'm sure we can get something together for BG.

Maybe just 3 genres.

Only 3 genres...that will cause some heartburn about which 3. Distribution...if we could get enough responsible, dedicated people from diffrent parts of the globe...which we have im pretty sure, we could get some pretty good global coverage...

I must also disagree with the 3-genre limit. Instead, why not let those within each genre produce their own CDs? For example (hypothetically); jazzbo, DURRL, Ed and others might put their heads together to make the TB Jazz CD, Volume I.

I dunno, just a thought.

Maybe I was defining "genres" differently. I always considered "rock" a genre. Pretty inclusive. But, I don't see why we can't have as much as we can handle.

So, where does everything stand right now?

im gonna go way out on a limb here at the risk of sounding selfish or even like an *******.

Alot of musicians here are trying to make money with their music. Some may not like the idea of putting something on a cd to be sold and not seeing any part of the procedes.

just another thought to add to the mix that maybe nobody thought of.

so dont flame me

I think that's why if this project somehow gets off the ground, it'll have to be a volunteer effort on everyone's behalf. I'm willing to submit a track without any profits. Just getting my music out is good enough for me at this point. I'm sure most everyone else who wants to be involved would agree on this.

If some sort of compensation really needs to be made after a certain profit margin is made by TalkBass, maybe supporting members upgrades could be given to those who were involved in the making of the CD. Just a thought.

Originally posted by cassanova
im gonna go way out on a limb here at the risk of sounding selfish or even like an *******.

Alot of musicians here are trying to make money with their music. Some may not like the idea of putting something on a cd to be sold and not seeing any part of the procedes.

just another thought to add to the mix that maybe nobody thought of.

so dont flame me

So, that's fine. But I think the overwhelming majority would rather do something for Talkbass, and get free exposure.

Set up an MP3.com account, and make cd's from there...its free...you get 50% of the sale price...just a suggestion

-cap

Originally posted by cap
Set up an MP3.com account, and make cd's from there...its free...you get 50% of the sale price...just a suggestion

-cap

We could call it "Talkbass Station".

I'm in!

Originally posted by XavierG


We could call it "Talkbass Station".

I'm in!

I was making the assumption that we'd set up an account for each genera to make it much easier in making the cd's

-cap

I will happily submit one of my bands songs in either wav or mp3 format :P (the one on mp3. com are poor quality and out dated). I do know a lot of CD replicating places, but they typically want a minimum order, and there could be copyright problems. I know of places like shortrun music that replicate on CDR or places like AMI that do full scale real CDs.

another option, could be to have some TBers volunteer to "make" the CDs on their computers and then have someone else make covers and compile them all, but that would be a lot of work for some TBers, depending on the interest.

-KB