Yes, I know Paul was kind of to create a new forum just recently, but I thought I might as well through my idea out there.

We do have a gig stories forum, but we have no forum established with the implicit purpose of helping people with band management and live performance information.

Many members of Talkbass are involved in bands, whose plans revolve around regular gigging, on the national level, the local level, or just for informal occasions. We have a plethora of knowledge and experience from Talkbassers who have been gigging since the bass guitar was invented.

A Band Management and Performance forum could help people with managing bands, recording and distributing demos and press kits, establishing web page content (or even technical web page issues), booking, performing, advertising, communicating with club/bar/festival/corporate management, sound engineers, club PA systems, PA systems in general, do's and don'ts of live performance, and much more.

Creating a viable and working band is a detailed and intricate process. Unfortunately, very little information exists for beginners on how to go about this. With the experience we have here I think a specific forum of this nature would be very beneficial.

Thats a good idea. Jazzbo you just dont stop do you? ;)

People could get/ask information on how they can get their band where they want it, like how to go about getting gigs, how they can improve their reputation and how they can do better if they have failed in battle of the bands tornaments.

Only one problem. It could get a bit confusing if a member has just done a gig, and he/she thinks it went bad. It would be a bit confusing where to put it. In Bass humor & Gig stories, because they are telling their story, or Band management and Performance, because they are asking how they can manage their band better.

Other that that sounds like a good idea. :)

Originally posted by kirbywrx
Only one problem. It could get a bit confusing if a member has just done a gig, and he/she thinks it went bad. It would be a bit confusing where to put it. In Bass humor & Gig stories, because they are telling their story, or Band management and Performance, because they are asking how they can manage their band better.

Other that that sounds like a good idea. :)

The existing forum could be changed to just "Bass Humor".

I like the idea! I am one of those newbies that has NO clue about what to do at live performances.

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If we change Bass Humor and Gig stories to just Bass Humor, I'd imagine it wouldn't have too many topics seeing as the forum was created with the assumption that most gig stories turn out humorus (well this is what I think anyway). Plus how many new bass jokes have you seen recently? :rolleyes:
/Devils Advocate

yeah good idea,cuz have no idea about "micing" stuff and "pa systems" and "cabinets" etc...i like this idea.

Thats a great idea Jazzbo, Maybe Paul could implement my idea of a musician seeking musician type service in with it.

Thats a great idea for a forum. It would help me out alot as thats my band just started playin gigs.

BUMP.

I still think that this idea has a lot of merit. Any support?

Yes.

Great!

Any more?

that sounds like a good idea, jazzbo.

i also agree that gig stories would be better off where it is.

about musicians looking for musicians, i don't know. i can see that drawing a lot of users who just register to make one post and that's it. maybe not, but if that did happen, that particular forum might get inundated by posts by people who don't really care about TB overall. or something. maybe a separate forum just for musicians looking for musicians? because it would be a cool thing..

leanne

I love it. Jazzbo > all.

Excellent. Let's keep the BASS HUMOR & GIG STORIES thread existent, and start the new forum.

I am happy to moderate.

Any more support?

Count me in as another mod volunteer. :)

ooh, I'll co-moderate!!!



what... what are you laughing about stop. STOP POINTING!

Here's my support for the forum.

I can see it being soooooooo useful.

bump

Great idea - Jazzbo strikes again!

good idea. i think bass humor should be merged with Misc, actually. gig stories and anything to do with playing live could go in the Performing forum.

oh, and let Dave Castelo moderate it. wouldn't want to put him out of a job. :D

Ok, ok, I give in! You win Jazzbo :D I was hesitant at first because of overlap with Misc, but I guess with such a high volume of postings as we have, it doesn't hurt to subdivide and specialize a bit. No harm in giving it a try anyway, right? :)

I'd like to keep the bass humor/gig stories forum as is - I think it still has a place on TB. The Band Management forum shouldn't be used for pure story telling (although the posts will probably contain a backstory, the emphasis should be on advice & info, right?).

Guess there's not much to support since Jazzbo already got his way, but if you need another co mod I'd like a shot at it.

I think it's a nice idea.... thanks to Jazzbo for bringing it up! And if there is need for a mod, I'll throw my hat in!


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Originally posted by paul
Ok, ok, I give in! You win Jazzbo :D I was hesitant at first because of overlap with Misc, but I guess with such a high volume of postings as we have, it doesn't hurt to subdivide and specialize a bit. No harm in giving it a try anyway, right? :)

I'd like to keep the bass humor/gig stories forum as is - I think it still has a place on TB. The Band Management forum shouldn't be used for pure story telling (although the posts will probably contain a backstory, the emphasis should be on advice & info, right?).

You know we love you Paul. :D

So, who will the mods be? ;)

I was waiting to see how this came out and now that I know, i'll put in my $.02 worth. I think this forum is a good idea. However, it occurs to me that, were it possible, we should have an industry pro look in on it from time to time and possibly co-moderate. You know, someone who is actually an agent, manager or a management executive from the music business. If we could find someone like that. Why? Well, as much as I want to see this forum actually be useful I'm afraid that it will be littered with misinformation from self-proclaimed know-it-alls. And when people ask the questions that seem inane and rote to most of us old salty cats, feelings will get hurt and no pros will be there to set it straight.
Here's hoping this won't become another forum I will have to avoid in order to remain my usual cheery self.:cool:

Dennis Miller on:
"That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
Dennis Miller off.

Originally posted by lneal
...You know, someone who is actually an agent, manager or a management executive from the music business. If we could find someone like that. Dennis Miller on:
"That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
Dennis Miller off.

I don't know if I like that idea for two reasons: First, they'd more than likely be trying to get more clients in the process; also, who is to say that they won't also spread disinformation?

I agree with SMASH - there are plenty of fellows here that could probably out-manage a whole lot of the managers.

I'm very excited about this forum. I truly believe that talent only gets you so far, and I have been in so many very talented, but poorly managed bands, and so many bands with average talent and excellent management. It's always easy to know which one will be "successful."

While I am not a virtuoso or most accomplished musician, I know management, and I know people skills. This, not talent as much, has resulted in any success I've had in gigging.

The information it takes to manage a successful band is not always readily available. I've seen some great books on the market, but I know with the disparate group of individuals here, and all there years of experiencing, some really amazing help could be provided for young metal or punk fans, twentysomething hip-hoppers, 50 year old jazzers, or your guys in the 40s playing the blues. Whatever. When I started out gigging, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have to worry about a day job these days.

I am certain that the new forum will be fine. I was only expressing my concerns about it. I've only been here at TB for 6 months but have noticed several things about the site since I took off my rose colored glasses a couple of months ago. One of those things is the abundance of people who are more than willing to be smart-asses (you know who you are!). They litter the other forums with short, snide and often rude comments, and a few purposely try to pick fights with people just for the sake of argument. Why should I think this forum would be any different?

I agree that TB is, for the most part, a place where an abundance of good, helpful information can be had. I've received good advice here myself. As jazzbo pointed out, the business end of music is the one that kills most bands and musicians, and readily available info would be great for those who want it and can accept the depraved ugliness that is the music business.

I will be watching with bated breath and a slightly cynical eye!:cool:

Originally posted by lneal
One of those things is the abundance of people who are more than willing to be smart-asses (you know who you are!). They litter the other forums with short, snide and often rude comments, and a few purposely try to pick fights with people just for the sake of argument. Why should I think this forum would be any different?

I run a tight ship in OT. If I were to mod this forum, it would be even tighter, considering that OT's purpose is not to educate or inform, like this new forum would be.

Hopefully, we'll stay on point, but you know how it goes Ineal.

I have confidence in ya, jazzbo!:cool:

Originally posted by jazzbo


I run a tight ship in OT. If I were to mod this forum, it would be even tighter, considering that OT's purpose is not to educate or inform, like this new forum would be.

Noted, good point!