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progrmr
01-13-2009, 06:46 AM
I've taken lessons when I was a kid and some guitar lessons last year.

One of the goals for the lessons is to learn how to read music. So we're shooting the **** and breakout my Hal Leonard book and start covering the first 3 notes on the 'E' string.

I tell the guy that I want to master the lesson on each string fully, being able to recite the letter of the note as I read and play. He says that I shouldn't even worry about that - just learn to associate the note with a string/fret. Don't worry about what the note is, you can do that later.

What do you all think about that method? It does sound easier to me and I'm going to take his advice to try it out.

PRUNEFACE
01-13-2009, 08:44 AM
it's a different teaching method; it's up to the student I guess. I would try to learn (by name) the notes on the 3-7 fret at least; if you know these you will be able to find certain notes as reference points. I kind of had an advantage and already read bass clef as my first instrument was the Baritone Horn.

dmusic148
01-13-2009, 08:54 AM
I think you best listen to your instructor. You're paying him for a reason.

slybass3000
01-13-2009, 09:16 AM
I've taken lessons when I was a kid and some guitar lessons last year.

One of the goals for the lessons is to learn how to read music. So we're shooting the **** and breakout my Hal Leonard book and start covering the first 3 notes on the 'E' string.

I tell the guy that I want to master the lesson on each string fully, being able to recite the letter of the note as I read and play. He says that I shouldn't even worry about that - just learn to associate the note with a string/fret. Don't worry about what the note is, you can do that later.

What do you all think about that method? It does sound easier to me and I'm going to take his advice to try it out.

Next lesson you'll learn the same thing on the A string.

Then you will skip the next lesson because you will have a gig already LOL

Good luck and hang on,

Sly

Jake of Bass
01-13-2009, 01:02 PM
Your instructor is right IMO. He's getting you to playing and reading at the same time, without adding note names in the middle for a little extra confusion. I'm sure he's going to reinforce memorising the note names once you're reading and playing better, he's just working through a step-by-step process.

PRUNEFACE
01-13-2009, 05:31 PM
I don't think there is a right way, just different ways.

Stumbo
01-14-2009, 12:55 AM
There's nothing wrong with studying on your own to progress faster. Here's some links and information that may be helpful to you.

Here are a few links that I've collected along the way that I've found enlightening and hope you will as well.

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MUST READS (save years of headaches and hard knocks)
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http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=429034 If I only knew then...(covers all topics of being in a band)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434246 Best musical advice
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481465 Things every bassist should know




NEWBIES
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http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489818 Beginners common mistakes/where to start
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484065 Guitar players switching to bass
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6817723 First "bass" advice
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55969 Upgrade bass or amp first?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500040 Tab or not to tab?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504263 Getting off tabs
http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ Introductory Bass Lesson (click on Beginners)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6776933&postcount=40 Developing musically
http://www.musictheory.net/index.html Xlnt visual Beginning Music Theory (Power Point lessons), ear trainer, chord calcs
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2338584&postcount=4 Learning modes
http://www.download.com/NoteCard/3000-2133_4-10004005.html Download program-learning bass clef(as recommended by TB member AlphaMale)
http://www.playthebass.com print flashcards for learning bass clef, print staff paper
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363909 Find a bass teacher




LESSONS, BOOKS, MUSIC THEORY, EAR TRAINING, JAM TRACKS
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Practicing
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79878 How to practice bass
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50170 How to practice bass
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6634274 Headphone amps/mixers/trainers
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499438 Recommendations for good headphones


Free online lessons
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481548 TB member Dmanlamius has free video lessons
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490379 Who's the best youtube bass teacher?
http://www.studybass.com/ Bass studies,online metronome, fretboard printer, bass clef tutor,more.
http://www.activebass.com/ Tab based lessons by members for members covering all types of bass instruction.
http://www.playbassnow.com with MarlowDK including videos.
http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ beginners' guide/lessons, tech advice,drills, bass sound files,tips,Q&A, links/more .
http://www.musicdojo.com/index.asp Online bass course (5 day free trial)
http://www.cliffengel.com/ Free and paid lessons
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6857992#post6857992 Cliff Engel customer reviews
http://www.cyberfretbass.com/index.php For all bassists


Free Jam tracks
http://www.freejamtracks.com/index.html


Books and instructional materials
http://www.bassbooks.com/shopping/default.asp Books, DVDs, all styles and methods
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491293 Looking for the Bass "Bible"
http://playbassnow.com/recommended-learning-materials/ MarlowDK's recommended books
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498831 "Best" theory/harmony book
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99676 TB Book Links - all styles,levels and techniques


Theory
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419687 Read bass clef
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479642 Learn to read music http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479401 Learn to read music
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6521582 Improve site reading
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125519 Intro to scale and chord theory
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473968 Learning Theory
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498975 Key signatures/Circle of 5ths/Cycle of 4ths
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6703697&postcount=22 Circle of 5ths (spreadsheet format)

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507769 Reason for modes
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485421 Using modes

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56761 TB Gen.Instruction Theory links list
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88294 Theory (from the DB side of TB)
http://www.teoria.com/ Online study of music theory. Check out the tutorials, exercises and reference dictionary


Online ear training.
http://www.good-ear.com/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/IcerC/OnlineScreen.swf Test your ear


Getting creative
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=80043 Creating bass lines
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125536 Creating bass lines - Target Approach
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506691 Playing scales
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6770334 Creating bass lines for a jam
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491679 Playing behind/ahead of the beat
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500896 "Feel"


Going "pro"
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6777192&postcount=7 Becoming a session player

Teaching Bass
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493881 http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353486


COLLEGE MUSIC
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http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479377 So you want to be a music major in college
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484028 Solfege
http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/ Virginia Tech Multimedia Music Dictionary (music theory terms)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507075 Auditioning for college jazz band
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480154 College audition dilemma



STYLES
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--Blues
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506931 Slow blues
http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/blues/Bluesprogression.html Blues Progressions explained with samples
http://www.amazon.com/Blues-Bass-Jon-Liebman/dp/0793586682 "Blues Bass" by TB member Jonster (John Liebman)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=502819 Blues books
http://www.amazon.com/Razor-Sharp-Blues-Guitar-Turnarounds-Music/dp/B000PHU7J2 "101 Razor-Sharp Blues Turnarounds by Larry McCabe
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Rhythm-Guitar-Guide-Blues/dp/1574241389/ref=pd_sim_b_1 "Complete Rhythm Guitar Guide for Blues Bands" by Larry McCabe


--Funk,Groove,R&B
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6527889&postcount=10 Links to over 20 funk,groove and R&B bass players
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314342 Funk 101
http://www.amazon.com/Funk-Bass-Builders-Jon-Liebman/dp/079351620X/ref=pd_sim_b_5/185-2146101-2319058 "Funk Bass" by TB member Jonster (John Liebman)


--Latin
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501425 Learning Latin music
http://www.amazon.com/Latin-Bass-Book-Oscar-Stagnaro/dp/1883217113/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232222000&sr=1-1 "The Latin Bass Book" by Oscar Stagnaro and Chuck Sher


--Jazz
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9859 Learning to play jazz
http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/index.html Jazz Improvization Primer - Sabatella (Book/Online)
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=502252 Walking bass lines
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482544 Jazz Scales
http://www.jazzstandards.com/history/index.htm History of Jazz


--Metal
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485799 Metal
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=290907 How to scream/growl




BEING IN A BAND
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http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497571 How "good" do you have to be to play in a band?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495628 Covers vs. Originals
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=496467 Playing in a 3 piece band

Bands: Starting, Auditioning, Quitting
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6777630&postcount=9 Starting a band
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493356 Starting a cover band
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483181 Starting a new band- how to audition
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494723 Auditioning a new member for your band
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492200 Auditioning: red flag stories
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501208 Auditioning story
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507131 Quitting a band

Band management
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73200 Intro to band management
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425221 Band management books
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507322 First band
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477182 Running a band: democracy or dictatorship?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466534 How to fire a band member
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504370 Band "funds", "to be or not to be?"
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494100 Advertising yourself
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503211 Business cards
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508702 Originals Band "paying dues"

Band Reheasal/Gigs
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3743 Protect your hearing! Wear ear plugs!
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479102 Rehearsal tips
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486490 Rehearsal efficiency
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484615 How often to rehearse?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492051 To noodle or not to noodle?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497067 Being asked to turn down the volume
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500417 First gig
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442203 First gig
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237521 Moving equipment
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483338 Moving equipment
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489244 Learning Live Sound mixing


Band names
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=113925 Best/worst real band names
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391461 Infamous band name thread
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6734711 Changing a band's name
http://www.bandnamemaker.com/ Band name website
http://www.1728.com/bandname.htm Band name website

Cool rigs, equipment and info
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507568 Cables
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166225 TB Amps FAQs
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193818 Gear insurance thread
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6729196 Isolating Amp/Cabs from stage/each other
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442966 Links to 30 Manuf. of Light weight cabs,amps, combos
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=475615 Happy with my rig.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455442 Happy with my rig
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140446 Ulitmate fantasy rig
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280571 Mini rigs of doom
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450492 Rigs of doom
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506640 "I want a monster amp!"

Software
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501892 Cheap but good recording software
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374400 Computer utilities/software you can't do without

Building Stuff
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491220 Cabs
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432560 Light weight cab
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499264 Building a tube amp


Guitars
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503675 12 string guitars




OTHER
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Accessories
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494366 Lights for your fretboard.

Aging guitars/basses
http://www.grguitars.com/pick%20guards.html
http://www.grguitars.com/parts_5bass.htm
http://rchildsrelics.com
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484051

For fun
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...=480666&page=1 Gadgets and Gizmos
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480686 Tips for living
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484653 Ways to save money

scottice
01-14-2009, 01:02 AM
Wow Stumbo!!!

musicelectronix
01-14-2009, 01:12 AM
Dude.. I bookmarked this page lol :)

mjpzx2
01-14-2009, 05:04 AM
Legend. I'll be having a look through those links :)

LowDown Hal
01-14-2009, 05:09 AM
I've taken lessons when I was a kid and some guitar lessons last year.

One of the goals for the lessons is to learn how to read music. So we're shooting the **** and breakout my Hal Leonard book and start covering the first 3 notes on the 'E' string.

I tell the guy that I want to master the lesson on each string fully, being able to recite the letter of the note as I read and play. He says that I shouldn't even worry about that - just learn to associate the note with a string/fret. Don't worry about what the note is, you can do that later.

What do you all think about that method? It does sound easier to me and I'm going to take his advice to try it out.

+1 -- EXCEPT
Don't recite the letter of the note, rather try to sing it

scottice
01-14-2009, 09:47 AM
+1 -- EXCEPT
Don't recite the letter of the note, rather try to sing it

+1... good tip!

Stumbo
01-15-2009, 12:33 AM
Dude.. I bookmarked this page lol :)

I actually reduced the number of links to those that applied to the OP. If you're interested, here's a link to my original "full" post: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6795905&postcount=2

Deefuzz
01-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Awesome Stumbo. Thanks for collecting that massive list of links!

I too have it bookmarked and will be making use of a great deal of it!

debassr
01-21-2009, 04:47 PM
Mods - please make this post sticky!

Andrew Jones
01-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Yes Mods, just that one post can that be a sticky?



Aj

beelzelboss
01-22-2009, 05:13 PM
DONT DO IT!!! Thats what i did in my guitar class, and now that we are going over sharps and moving up the fret board i'm starting to have real troubles.
Don't do it the way your teacher wants you to do (although that sounds bad to say) do it the other way, it will SOOO pay off in the long run.

Michael Case
01-22-2009, 05:50 PM
I'd say be listen to your teacher, learn the lesson, then spend some time in extracurricular activities learning the note names too. Just don't make it priority #1.