Looking for a standalone cab for my upright. Really looking at single 12's right now. I will be using a transducer and/or mic. What is your favorite and why?

EA Wizzy 12 M-Line

Why? Cause it sounds good.

It is a very even clean sounding box. Do a search. Lotsa goodies on this site.

Do you think the MLine is a little mid shy? Or is that just because of the increased low end from the MLine design?

I've never found it to be mid shy or that it has an increased low end. If anything I think the M-Line design gives the cab a less directional sound. I love it 'cause it can really hear it no matter where you stand. Drummers really dig it too since they are often set up to the side of the bass cab. I find it to be a pretty even sounding box.

the schroeder Mini 12+ and the epifani UL112

I've tried a lot of db cabs over the past 40 years. By far, IMHO the best is a Bergantino 112. I haven't tried the new AE cab, but am hoping to get to Chicago soon.

George

I had a folded baby sub with a single 10 in it.. the entire box resonated.

I believe it was made by "dawn" a US company (Illinois?)

The sound was basically a boxy boom.

Surely there is no perfect cab. Different cabs suit different instruments. If you're talking about a best all-rounder you are talking compromises.

Sorry I called you Shirley, I won't do it again.

Surely there is no perfect cab. Different cabs suit different instruments. If you're talking about a best all-rounder you are talking compromises.

Sorry I called you Shirley, I won't do it again.:)

I've never found it to be mid shy or that it has an increased low end.Same here. For a single 12, the M-line sounds pretty big to me, but well behaved and controlled. It is not mid-shy at all IMO. In fact I think the mids and the cab's ability to project are what distinguish it from other cabs I've heard. I blend a pickup and a mic most of the time.

The M-line and the regular Wizzy 12 seem to have this combination of warmth and accuracy that I really dig. Not in the extended upper range, but definitely in the lows and mids.

One of the things I like best about it as I said is it projects out into the room really, really well. I get lots of compliments on the sound. Sits great in the mix too. And I like the off-axis dispersion like fingers said. Also works great for EB for me.

I have not tried the Bergantino, but it is very popular too. A/B them if you can. They both make a good sound.

I blend a pickup and a mic most of the time.


The past couple weeks I have been either blending pickup (as little as possible) and mic (Realist/Beta57) or going mic only. I've tried it with a couple cabs (aforementioned EA, Aguilar GS112nt, little1x10 I built, MBX112) and the EA wins hands down. I feel like it has a nice fullrange sound with the least extended low or high end. It also seems to be the least feedback prone. I feel like I can really crank it before feedback becomes a problem.

I gotta give props to my fave. EA VL208. Don't make it anymore. Pretty heavy for a little box, compared to the Neo loaded 12s. Sounds like nothing else.

YMMV.

Looking for a standalone cab for my upright. Really looking at single 12's right now. I will be using a transducer and/or mic. What is your favorite and why?

My first EA cabinet a VL 108 sold me. They just sound great with DB.
So I would take Bolo and Fingers suggestion. There are of course other cabinets out there, but I think if you did a little survey you would find that a great many of us use EA's. I understand that others have had good luck with Bergantino's as well.

Ric

my personal favorite is actually the Acoustic Image downfiring cab that comes on the combos or you can buy without the amp on it. depending on your needs. i dont use mine for trying to project sound to the audience, it sounds really good to me on stage playing in a acoustic string band. i run a direct out of my contra amp for foh sound.

i do own the wizzy m-line as well. that is also a great cab, but usually puts too much volume on stage for my situation. part of the reason i prefer the ai cab is it seems to be more forgiving of poor technique. the wizzy definatley puts out what you put into it. there are alot of folks the donwfiring ai cab does not work for, but for my playing situation it seems to do the best job.

EA WZ 110. Very clear and focussed; it projects without being loud, which is helpful in dealing with feedback issues should they arise.

Any of you use Acme cabs with your DB? E.g. Low B1 (1-10) or Low B2 (2-10).

I really like the sound of the B2 with the AI Focus, but that is with a Rob Allen fretless EB.

I like my Accugroove Tri-112. It also has a six inch and a pair of soft dome tweeters. The cabinet does have a control for the mid 6" and the tweeters. I haven't had to turn them down as the tweeters are not harsh like the compression drivers in Eden and SWR cabs. Mine is one of the older Tri-112's and is a little heavier than the current ones Accugroove is selling. They also just introduced a Tri-112 combo containing their new Synergy amp. I haven't tried it yet but am looking forward to it.

Wally

favorite cab currently is the Euphonic Audio CXL112EV, good full-range sound, more mids than the EA M-Line that I used to own.

my old favorite is the EA Wizzy10 that I still love and use for the smaller gigs and familiar rooms, keeping in mind that a 10" speaker has it's limits. if the room is new or unknown, the CXL is the one to bring.

I've used it for db and even plugged in a vocal mic at the same time (a singer wanted to sit in but we had no p.a.) and it worked pretty good.

Don't know why, but when I respond to questions like this one by saying that the Raezer's Edge Bass 10 and Bass 12 sound better to me than any other cabs of similar configuration, I feel like a lone wolf howling at the moon. Regardless of which power plant I use (an AI Focus-III, AI Clarus-SL or EA iAmp 300), these RE cabs always do it for me.

I must say that I have read alot about the EA's in this forum for DB. I am sure that alot of other cabs sound fantastic as well. Some of these have been mentioned above. But I must say I have heard about more guys using EA cab's probably more than any other. Probably not so much in the EB forums but more so in the DB forums. I have been looking at the wizzy and the MLine wizzy for a while. I am really leaning towards the MLine. It really isn't much more weight and alot of guys really like it for DB as well as some liking it for EB as well. It really is hard to make comparisons by what others hear. But when you don't have a bass specialty store near you then this site is like the next best thing. If anybody has any other suggestions I would be glad to hear them. Thanks alot.

Hey abg,
I've owned a Bergantino HT112 and I currently own a Wizzy (NOT M-line). Both sound great but I like the sound of the Wizzy a little bit better for DB and a lot more better for slab. ;)
The Wizzy is a little less focused and boomy in a very solid and musical way, think Motown. 29lbs.
The Bergie sounds more modern, is slightly more accurate, and has a beefier low end. 39lbs.
I really believe only a bass player could tell the difference!!
Both cabinets are built like tanks!
FWIW, I traded the Bergie for a bow, because ultimately the 10lb difference made a difference to me.

-J

I must say that I have read alot about the EA's in this forum for DB. I am sure that alot of other cabs sound fantastic as well. Some of these have been mentioned above. But I must say I have heard about more guys using EA cab's probably more than any other. Probably not so much in the EB forums but more so in the DB forums. I have been looking at the wizzy and the MLine wizzy for a while. I am really leaning towards the MLine. It really isn't much more weight and alot of guys really like it for DB as well as some liking it for EB as well. It really is hard to make comparisons by what others hear. But when you don't have a bass specialty store near you then this site is like the next best thing. If anybody has any other suggestions I would be glad to hear them. Thanks alot.

Too bad Belleville isn't a little closer to Chicago. You could try mine.

I have the M Line and CXL12 and the Wizzy 10. I really couldn't live without any of the 3. The Wizzy 10 is amazing for low to medium volume gigs. The M Line is probably the best sounding of the 3, but has volume limitations. ( VERY loud gigs) The CXL is surprising. If I had no EQ, I'd hate it. If you tame the mids with EQ, it is by far the tightest and most focused of the 3. It also goes unbelievably
loud. I double on many gigs on 5 string electric and even on a fusion gig have never had the need for a second speaker. I sold one of my CXL's because contrary to my expectations never had the need for a second cabinet.

i still adore the sound of the raezers, even though the current rig is the genz benz 10t, with ext ext 10 for loud gigs. even though the raezer is relatively light, it's not light enough for me ... but it does sound fab ... i used to own two, now just one and i'd be open to selling it quite reasonably. i keep hanging on to it for that one gig it would be perfect for ...

jeff.

Don't know why, but when I respond to questions like this one by saying that the Raezer's Edge Bass 10 and Bass 12 sound better to me than any other cabs of similar configuration, I feel like a lone wolf howling at the moon. Regardless of which power plant I use (an AI Focus-III, AI Clarus-SL or EA iAmp 300), these RE cabs always do it for me.

Well, JR, I take your praise of the RE, mitigated as it may be, as a kind gesture. Regarding the weight issue of the RE Bass 10 v. EA Wizzy 10, I believe the RE-B10 is 22 lbs while the Wizzy 10 weighs in at 16 lbs. I was hoping that the Wizzy-10 would compare nicely to the RE-B10 because of its light weight, but I find that it is falls so far short that I still take the RE to 95% of my gigs. Amp EQ with the Wizzy is extreme (highs: 9:00 o'clock, mids 10:00 o'clock, lows 3:00 o'clock) where the RE takes a flat setting of twelve o'clock across the spectrum.

I already own a EAW 15 and I think it come in at about 69lbs. I put a Peavey Lo-Rider 8ohn in it. I also have a Dr.Bass 2460D coming in a4ohm. So thats that. With the iAMP800 that rig should kill for either. I usually have have the 15 with iAMP on stage because I use "in ears" at my regular gig. So I am looking for a definite one cab for more acoustic situations. Luckily I live about 15 minutes from Bob Heil's shop, so I am going to call and see if he has made that PR-40 in a smaller design yet. Great feedback on that mic from TBer's. Looking to get the Doubler amp from EA this spring. Bob Gollihur said you can run both channels at the same time, Nice. I'm still flipping back and forth between the wizzy and the MLine though. Damn these GAS pains.

mine is a bass 12 ... it's around 30lbs ...

my personal favorite is actually the Acoustic Image downfiring cab that comes on the combos or you can buy without the amp on it. depending on your needs. i dont use mine for trying to project sound to the audience, it sounds really good to me on stage playing in a acoustic string band. i run a direct out of my contra amp for foh sound.

i do own the wizzy m-line as well. that is also a great cab, but usually puts too much volume on stage for my situation. part of the reason i prefer the ai cab is it seems to be more forgiving of poor technique. the wizzy definatley puts out what you put into it. there are alot of folks the donwfiring ai cab does not work for, but for my playing situation it seems to do the best job.


If anyone is looking for a cab like this.. I have one that am no longer using... would love it to go to a good home.

PM if interested.

EA CXL112. It's the best single cab I have. I do double duty with slab bass and the thing sounds great with either bass. It's a little more articulate than my 112 wizzy and definately moves more air. The attenuator is a big help in dialing in a sound to match the room. I can go from country to punk rock with this thing and it takes it all in stride.

I love my Berg AE112! :hyper:

Berg HT112. Warm and punchy, without being boomy. Just
a great box for upright. I want to try out a Schroeder 12+L.
I hear good things about them.

If you can effort it:
To my experience the AER Basscube is the best there is for DB. Lots of punch and tons of tight low end in a small package. Unfortunately it's not lightweight.

When paired with the Epifani UL112 for sparkling mids you can get a crowd moving. Never heard anything that even comes close.

http://www.aer-amps.info/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/1c758ed0a4a9a0d155b348c9018cd707.jpg

http://www.aer-amps.info/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/BCU2_Rear.jpg

I had an Eden CXC-110(a 220 watt 1x10 combo)that worked great for my DB; I also had a CX-110 extension cab to go w/it & also loved it's tone, oomph & relatively light weight. PERFECT to my ears for DB & more-than-decent for(dare I say it here)BG.