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Jim Campbell
03-10-2009, 01:12 PM
seems that u-tube has shut down his site.......im not sure if copyright is the reason as much of it was his own stuff.....

ttmnky
03-10-2009, 01:15 PM
Maybe MarloweDK deleted the stuff himself?

But really... too bad that his stuff isn't on Youtube anymore...

Toshiro
03-10-2009, 01:17 PM
There's another thread about this.

The short story is that youtube removed MarloweDK's account for "copyright violations" associated with is play along stuff.

see:

http://playbassnow.com/

Jim Campbell
03-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Maybe MarloweDK deleted the stuff himself?

But really... too bad that his stuff isn't on Youtube anymore...no he explained that he became persona non grata and asked that if anyone had downloaded his original stuff to put it back up for him......seems like the bots are really going after the play along stuff

ttmnky
03-10-2009, 01:30 PM
Ah, my bad. I didn't see the post he made to his site.

Jim Campbell
03-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Ah, my bad. I didn't see the post he made to his site.theres a few guys that have been wiped out on youtube lately and im not sure how these play along guys cost the labels money.....im guessing that another youtube style venue will pop up

xaxxat
03-10-2009, 06:53 PM
Munkybarz is gone too...

Jim Campbell
03-10-2009, 07:46 PM
Munkybarz is gone too...hopefully not for long

Dmanlamius
03-10-2009, 08:37 PM
I've managed to stay alive through it all, but I get the impression I was close to deletion. I deleted a load of my "Learn to play" vids that had hundreds of thousands of hits together. Also my bass-only versions of Blackbird, Needle and the damage done and hallelujah (loads of tapping, chordal work-took hours to work out).

Just made a short vid about the situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K0mCgYmg9U

Alvaro Martín Gómez A.
03-10-2009, 08:39 PM
hopefully not for long

He's now here (http://www.youtube.com/user/ohforfuxache). I deeply regret MarloweDK's account suspension. Fortunately his website is alive and well, but anyway I hope he will return to YouTube.

Alvaro Martín Gómez A.
03-10-2009, 08:46 PM
Also my bass-only versions of Blackbird, Needle and the damage done and hallelujah (loads of tapping, chordal work-took hours to work out).

Maybe I'm wrong but, isn't the problem caused by including original recordings (for playalongs, for instance) on YT videos? As far as I understand, the Video Identification tool (http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=83766) works based on that.

beaglegod
03-11-2009, 12:31 AM
WOW! Funkstar650 is gone also, he had a ton of bass videos and all have been removed save 2 or 3. I swear the guy played Power by Marcus Miller perfectly, I must have watched that video 10 times and now,,,poof!:eek:

FaceDown3000
03-11-2009, 01:52 AM
WOW! Funkstar650 is gone also....:eek:
I nearly spilled my cake over my keyboard but luckily he's still here http://www.youtube.com/user/funkstar650?blend=2&ob=1 :hyper:

beaglegod
03-11-2009, 02:25 AM
I nearly spilled my cake over my keyboard but luckily he's still here http://www.youtube.com/user/funkstar650?blend=2&ob=1 :hyper:


Oh man , thats great! I had checked in on his vids yesterday and they were all gone except for a half dozen or so, but all the play alongs were gone. Hmmm I wonder how he got them back up, in his latest vid in honor of Marlow he said he was getting the same hassle.

Bassmickeyd
03-11-2009, 02:26 AM
I guess the story still remains true, enjoy it while it's there, cause nothing lasts forever.
I had a Jaco Tribute up on Youtube and in two years it had over 20,000 hits then along came Warner Brothers and had it removed for mechanical copy-write violations. It seems JPI, the Pastorius family own 100% copy-write to his tunes but WB own the mechanicals because he was signed to their label when he recorded the tune.
I understand Youtube has or had an agreement with these companies then talks for a re-agreement broke down and these companies hired goons to sit all day sifting thru Youtube videos seeing who was in violation and had them yanked. They were randomly yanking stuff then putting them back up with no explanation. A real BIG BROTHER moment.
I would think that since these companies do no advertising for any of their back catalogs they'd be happy someone was promoting the music but no that's not the case. They've resorted to a backyard sandbox mentality of "Its mine and I'm going to tell my mom if you touch it", way of thinking. I'm quite sure brought on more by all the sampling in Rap, than Youtube.
You don't know what you got till it's gone.

paul_wolfe
03-11-2009, 02:57 AM
Hey Kris (Dmanlamius)

Metacafe is an option for videos - their copyright policy seems to be less stringent and you can then embed on your website.

Hope that helps

paul_wolfe
03-11-2009, 02:58 AM
Hope they don't shut down Jamershook - I love that guy's videos. Better get downloading them! Anyone know a YouTube downloader for Mac????

waseok
03-11-2009, 03:12 AM
So, what is the whole deal?

People listen to great players on youtube, that play almost exactly like the original, and because so, they don't buy the tunes?

Jools4001
03-11-2009, 03:30 AM
It's all to do with this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7933565.stm

This example only applies to the UK, but it's all bound up with the same copyright/royalty issues that Google is taking a sledgehammer approach to throughout the world.

Kevin Myers
03-11-2009, 03:33 AM
So, what is the whole deal?

People listen to great players on youtube, that play almost exactly like the original, and because so, they don't buy the tunes?

No clue... but I've bought a lot of the recordings after hearing them on MarloweDK's page.

Linkert
03-11-2009, 03:39 AM
Dude this is BS! Thomas is the one that thought me how to play the bass basically! I remember his "Soul in C" video (i think that was the name). Damn i was inspired!

Oh well. Thomas is trying to find a host to put it up on again.

Well, maybe its a little less dramatic but still very bad, read on…
ARGGGRRRR!! MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT IS CLOSED!! ON COPYRIGHT ISSUES (my play-alongs), most of my videos were hosted there and are not available rigth now BUT DONT DISPAIR! I still have the original videos and will move all my “Lick of the day” and other tutorial videos to other video hosts, within the next few days i hope, starting with the most recent ones

Well i must admit that im in shock right now, my main claim to fame is abruptly closed down:-(

And im not able to open a new YT account, im a “persona non grata” as far as they are concerned

BUT PLEASE! THOSE OF YOU WITH AN YOUTUBE ACCOUNT PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD THAT MARLOWEDK AND PLAYBASSNOW.COM LIVES! , THANK YOU. And to those of you that have downloaded some of my videos in the past, you are more than welcome to upload them to Youtube, it would be of great support to me and a way to get people over here.

Of course you should only upload my original stuff as “the lick of the day” videos - not the playalongs - we dont want you shut down too!:-)

But i need a place to host my old playalongs, still got most of them so if any know of a less rigid videohost let me know

Edit: Why didn't youtube just mute the sound as they do on other peoples videos if there is copyright claimed material on it? Thomas had so much original videos up.

Bassmickeyd
03-11-2009, 04:09 AM
I can't say for sure but, I'd think once a player has heard the music off Youtube, maybe off a site where a another player is teaching from, they, the student, would be more likely to go out and purchase it the original. Its the style of music people are drawn to not just the bass lines.
I, being an, let's say, a seasoned musician, am surprised how much music I've purchased after being rekindle with it after I've heard it on Youtube. Music, I owned in album form that never bought on CD. But, after these such actions by what it amounts to excessive greed by WB & PRS, though I'm not sure who they are, I'll make it a point to avoid these companies in the future.
The record companies are in the crapper not because of musicians and music but because of corporate greed. Years ago they produced lots of music by lots of different artists then they decided, probably after Thriller, they wanted all the money from a few artists.
Record companies, oil companies, banks and the big three are all run by the same people. ...... Accountants who may be able to multiply but they just can't add.