Last night, I think I saw my 100th pair of female breasts from the stage. Not that I lose my riff whebn I can't help but see it while I'm playing. But to me, this whole half-drunk woman thing of lifting up their tops and screaming "woo woo" is getting worn out. I saw it year after year at Mardi Gras for years.
Moreover, these same women will tell you - "BUT I don't want to be perceived as just a sex object".........er, umm.....skewz me m'am - could you confuse me a little more, please????
What's worse, the cops came into the club and told the manager we would have to quit playing if the flashing didn't stop because the club would have to get something called "an adult cabaret license."
Outdoor gigs in 99-degree heat, I understand it. But, it seems to get the boyfriends ticked off and the club owners, too, when it gets out of hand at 1 am.
Is this stuff wearing a bit thin in your area yet??? As a guy, I figure I could bare my buns and probably empty the club.
Just curious, "Dear Abby".
dancehallclasher
08-11-2002, 02:59 PM
you posted this thread solely to brag, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?
jondog
08-11-2002, 03:01 PM
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates. Maybe you could start playing gay bars to avoid the abundant breasts.
;)
rickbass
08-11-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by dancehallclasher
you posted this thread solely to brag, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?
Hardly (no pun intended; you often crack me up, dancehall!).
It really does lead to problems. Boyfriends get P.O.'d because their dates attract every horn-dog in the joint and it leads to fights. The bouncers have to get on edge. Fights bring cops.
The undercover cops can get on the club owners if they're not on good terms.
It seems rampant at university/college gigs. That's okay but the Campus Activity Directors who pay us get hell for it when it causes problems.
If it wasn't so ubiquitous, it would retain its "outrageousness" and it would still be fun!!!
It just seems a little bit like the old days when all of we guys thought it was a big deal to moon the audience. Nowadays, it mooning seems practically "worn out."
The big difference was - we didn't start lawsuits when we got targeted as being "easy lays"!!! (Hell, being a musician does that already, doesn't it? :D ).
savagelucy
08-11-2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by jondog
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates. Maybe you could start playing gay bars to avoid the abundant breasts.
;)
i would be more afraid of what else gets.. uh... "flashed"
rickbass
08-11-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by jondog
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates....
That's how we felt at first.......until it just became a weak as the Jim Morrison "lizard king" and it wasn't so much of a "party" any longer.
Bare midriffs are cool - but after seeing the 5000th ersatz J-Lo, the ones left to the imagination look cooler, IMO.
lneal
08-11-2002, 03:38 PM
Well rickbass, I can't say I'm tired of having women flash me, but I see what you mean. I've noticed a bit of hipocrisy among women (girls?) in clubs that play "bootie music" on band breaks. First, we are told that women are not sex objects. And if we make a "sexist" remark we get the riot act read to us. Yet, when the "bootie music" is playing, these women will be on the dance floor shaking their butts and rubbing their body parts on men they don't even know! Dancing to sexist lyrics like "Just shake that a$$ bi%$h and let me see what you got" or "You a fine mot#$%f%$^er won't you back that a$$ up.
Seems like sexism is OK as long as you're having fun and lookin' hot!
rickbass
08-11-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by lneal
...Yet, when the "bootie music" is playing, these women will be on the dance floor shaking their butts and rubbing their body parts on men they don't even know! Dancing to sexist lyrics like "Just shake that a$$ bi%$h and let me see what you got" or "You a fine mot#$%f%$^er won't you back that a$$ up.
Seems like sexism is OK as long as you're having fun and lookin' hot!
Thanks for getting it, Ineal! Freak dancing always threw me a little as far as intent. But at least the "meat? wasn't in the butcher shop window.
New Year's Eve and Mardi Gras are one thing that I understand........another Friday night isn't.
I guess I'm just "old." Man, I'd be really rich is "date rape" applied to men!!!!
jondog
08-11-2002, 05:25 PM
Dance/rock clubs are there for people to hook up. It is not about the music, and despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol. Both music and beer serve to perpetuate the species via the weekly club ritual. So, at clubs we're just like the other animals in pre-mating situations - we display our desirable features (flashing) and protect our mates and/or display strength (fights). I'm pretty sure the women with the most attractive breasts leave with the winners of the fights.
Out of curiosity, on average what percentage of people at these clubs leave with someone new? 10%? 25%? How about those who leave alone, but w/ 1 or more phone #s? 15%?
rickbass
08-11-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by jondog
...despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol.....
:confused:
What is the name of this chain of altruistic clubs? ;)
Dance/rock music and philanthropy......I'm up for that!!!
lneal
08-11-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by rickbass
What is the name of this chain of altruistic clubs? ;)
Dance/rock music and philanthropy......I'm up for that!!!
LOL!:D
jondog
08-11-2002, 07:26 PM
Well, it's not philanthropy in that clubs do make a profit on alcohol. But, you don't have to drink. I've seen plenty of bands for no cover. I even met women there . . .
I used to have a drummer who worked as a bartender at a strip club. You had to pay for liquor, but they gave the beer away for free. They did have an expensive cover though. I saw many women there, but met none of them.
rickbass
08-12-2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by jondog
Well, it's not philanthropy in that clubs do make a profit on alcohol. But, you don't have to drink. I've seen plenty of bands for no cover....
Yeah, jon - a high cover charge may compensate for the money a club would otherwise make at the bar.
With the way DUI levels have become so ridiculously minimal, drinking at a club is a hard decision if you're the driver. I gave up drinking years ago. But, they get my money on the cans of Red Bull now :D
Munjibunga
08-12-2002, 09:56 PM
So play the gay bars, then.
rickbass
08-13-2002, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Munjibunga
So play the gay bars, then.
:D I don't even want to think about what's getting whipped out in those places, Munji. But the dancing would sure be better!
john turner
08-13-2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by rickbass
But the dancing would sure be better!
alright, you've officially grossed me out here, bud.
:D
rickbass
08-13-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by john turner
alright, you've officially grossed me out here, bud.:D
There's gotta be a prize for that!!!
No joke - some clubs I've played have these elevated dancing platforms in the middle of the floor or huge subwoofer cabs at the back of the room that people dance on (you've seen them, I imagine).
When some of the gay guys get up there and dance by themselves, the ladies know they can't even compete, so they stay on the floor. I guess flashing then becomes their only way to say, "Hey, look at me!!!"
metallicarules
08-14-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by jondog
Dance/rock clubs are there for people to hook up. It is not about the music, and despite what club owners think, it's not even about alcohol. Both music and beer serve to perpetuate the species via the weekly club ritual. So, at clubs we're just like the other animals in pre-mating situations - we display our desirable features (flashing) and protect our mates and/or display strength (fights). I'm pretty sure the women with the most attractive breasts leave with the winners of the fights.
Thank you for revealing the secret of the evolutionary regression of the human species.
Boy, we sure could use a little more chlorine in the gene pool, that is pretty pathetic. I have a dream where we might all live in a world where you have to get a license to breed.
Originally posted by metallicarules
I have a dream where we might all live in a world where you have to get a license to breed.
Or at least take child rearing classes before you can reproduce.
Back on subject:
I love breasts and hope I never tire of them. They are a magnificent! Flashing is GRAND!!
john turner
08-14-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by bizzaro
They are a magnificent! Flashing is GRAND!!
in theory, i completely concur. unfortunately, in practice, the flashers don't generally follow the "NUBO"'s closely enough, at least in my experience. my eyes aren't zoned for some of the glands i've seen. :eek:
(nasty ugly boob ordinances).
rllefebv
08-14-2002, 11:36 PM
"NUBO"... Gotta love it! Actually, I'm playing an outdoor party this weekend where part of the attraction is the annual "Third Set Flash"... Seriously!!
My current band gets flashed quite a bit, and while I do enjoy it, sometimes it leaves me feeling a little tainted. Still and all, it is fun telling my workmate, who drums with another local band and never plays in the proper 'Flashing Atmosphere', about this or that incident over the weekend. Kinda like counting coup...
-robert
Smack Alistair
08-15-2002, 04:17 AM
The band I'm in played a swingers club a couple of years ago.
I have to say it was a lucrative yet sordid experience, I'm still traumatised from the things I saw there....: )
I'm with Bizarro though, flashing is cool.
cheers
stew.
Ray Salamon
08-15-2002, 08:05 AM
Flashing kick ass, if "NUBO" is followed ;) In my old band, the whole one gig we had there were flashers, at of course an all ages show, so some of it....well, I'll let your imaganations go there if they choose to do so:eek: But yeah, I'm 99% for flashing.
Tom Crofts
08-16-2002, 04:49 AM
Flashing = Good
Gay Flashing = Bad
Although I agree with the bit about old people. Maybe if all old women were forced to sew their tops and trousers together... Like those all one baby suits...
Fuzzbass
08-25-2002, 02:32 AM
No, women aren't hypocrites. Some women think flashing is wrong, others think flashing is no big deal. Same is true for men (as evidenced by this thread).
Me, despite my "all-knowing liberalism" (someone else's opinion), I'm a pig: I LOVE it when women flash... except for that time a 50-year-old decided to share. :eek: :(
Oh... here's a pic from tonight's gig. Isn't the most interesting pic in my collection, but it's TalkBass legal (I hope!):
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=638078
superfreak
08-25-2002, 01:39 PM
Who wants a female point of veiw?....TOO BAD GETTING IT ANYWAY ;) Flashing is okay, however, it does give women a bad name. Which sucks, for we should be aloud to do what we want and feel safe in doing it. I worked @ a strip club, and you know how the saying goes...You can look but you can't touch...Face it...If you flashed penis' would you want women...UGLY women to touch? would you not feel...well...degrated? Never mind...I already know the answer to that!:D
Roark Haver
08-26-2002, 07:01 AM
Man! I have got to get out more.
Fetch Da bass
08-26-2002, 02:32 PM
Rickbass, Just curious, Which band that your in, Bitch Kitchen or The Chicks See Dicks get the most show of hooters? I bet it's The Chicks See Dicks... . I mean come on now..they might just be there looking for Dick......:D
rickbass
08-26-2002, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Fetch Da bass
Rickbass, Just curious, Which band that your in, Bitch Kitchen or The Chicks See Dicks get the most show of hooters?....
Bitch Kitchen, all the way, since we do greasy funk and "bump your hump" set lists. They are, far and away, the people living on paychecks and let it all go on weekends.....(think "Bourbon Street at Mardi Gras)."
The Chicks See Dicks gets a younger, more affluent, more "intellectual," audience. Guys being "macho" and girls being "hot honeys" aren't admired. A lot of them are still in college with good grade-point averages. Believe it or not, a significant number of them are in some kind of pre-med curriculum!!!..........ever go into a designer-caffeine place about 3am??? The music coming over the speakers is often rave-oriented.
Fetch Da bass
08-26-2002, 03:07 PM
Rickbass,Mardi Gras. I was there for two weeks 8 years ago. I don't remember to much of it, but I do know that I didn't have a drink for almost three months afterwards..
Do you./.The Chicks See Dicks have a CD or something?... I love the name... I'd like to hear you guys...
Fetch!
Fuzzbass
08-26-2002, 09:21 PM
What the heck, here's another from Saturday night's gig (sings: "I like my women on the trashy side...")
Originally posted by Fetch Da bass
...Do you./.The Chicks See Dicks have a CD or something?... I love the name... I'd like to hear you guys...
Fetch!
No CD, Fetch. It's really a side project for all the members because the clandestine nature and complicated planning of big raves means they aren't steady gigs. Moreover, we don't do anything original --- put together some Bill Laswell stuff + NIN +KMFDM and some old Kraftwerk and Gary Numan and you can be in business. A CD of trance/bass n' drum/techno covers wouldn't have much appeal, I don't think. As a bassist, for me, it's all about hauling my 18" speaker and doing wicked bass stabs (as they say) and sharing the very low-end with the synthesist.
But the money is just steeewpid!!!...( figure - 1200++ people @ $12-$16 a head + sales from energy drinks/t-shirts/glo-gear/et al, and the promoter can pay you some attractive money).
The downside is that these things can get busted by police/DEA.
If you dig the music, here's one good site that doesn't change URL's much - http://www.chillout.to/linkbank/msudancerave.htm
Fetch Da bass
08-27-2002, 03:37 PM
Rickbass, Thanks for the info......I'm not at all into that rave stuff, those drum/sound loops drive me insane....... I had a Roland SP 808 ex that could do all that stuff + more, but I sold it to get a Boss 1180 CD 10 track recorder...
Thanks again, Fetch!
rojo412
09-02-2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by rickbass
Last night, I think I saw my 100th pair of female breasts from the stage. Not that I lose my riff whebn I can't help but see it while I'm playing. But to me, this whole half-drunk woman thing of lifting up their tops and screaming "woo woo" is getting worn out. I saw it year after year at Mardi Gras for years.
To paraphrase something Chandler said:
"And I bet the stereo in your Bentley is too loud, the Chrystale Champagne is hard to open, the mansion you live in doesn't have a helipad and the solid platinum shoes you wear are a bit too big!!!"
I played a gig 2 weeks ago to 5 people! The girls there were abhorent! If they had flashed us, at least we could have said that something happened at the show!!!
"Uhhh... I've seen too many boobs!"
Gimme a break!
(And no offense intended. I just wanted to make a point that my band gets no boobs. Kudos to you for seeing too many.)
( . )( . )
Droppedsignal
09-16-2002, 03:58 PM
hmm, ive never actually seen a pair in person so id have 2 say i have nothing against flashing. Editing out any sick or offensive comments.......
metallicarules
09-17-2002, 08:31 AM
I think 8th grader flashing would be kiddy porn...
Bard2dbone
09-28-2002, 07:11 PM
I definitely get the NUBO point.
We hardly ever got flashed ( I really quit gigging in the 90's) but the few times we did were usually the least attractive boobies in the house that night.
It got to be a running joke. Between sets we would pick out the skankiest gals in the audience and bet which one would 'show them off'. Except for maybe twice the flasher would be one we had picked.
But come on! The 100th pair? We never got CLOSE to a hundred flashers.
Skavenger
10-12-2002, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by jondog
Your life is tough. I pity you and your bandmates. Maybe you could start playing gay bars to avoid the abundant breasts.
;)
Then he'll just end up with having seen his 100th pair of buttcheeks anytime soon.. :)
chris griffiths
10-15-2002, 01:48 AM
I used to play a place called ernie's and I would get flashed on stage quite a bit. and I did not appreciate it. because when as a musician you get flashed by a very hairy 375 lbs woman in the winter of her life it causes temporary blindness and loss sanity. So in this way I can relate to you rick.
But I can't say I get to upset. I think what you should do is just relax breath and understand that it's not the womens fault their taking their clothes off. I'm sure flashing was not a family secret passed down to them by their mothers. hardly do I ever hear a crowd of women encouraging guys to chant "skin to win" while they remove their shirts. but if it's getting to you do this. I think we got ourselves into this mess now we have to deal. and those same boyfriends that are getting mad were probably scoping the landscape when they weren't emotionally attached
flash them back
Tim Cole
10-16-2002, 11:27 PM
We've got a gig this friday, its a "104 rock night" put on by a radio station in Toledo, OH......104.7 WIOT. I have been to a few of these rock nights before, and they totally kick ***. They always have wet t-shirt contests, which end up to pretty much total nudity. Should be some nice views from up on the stage I'd hope! CAN'T WAIT!!!! PS, I am going to break into spinal taps "big bottom" riff, every time the NUBO is broken....I am sure not too many people will get it, but those who do will be sure to appreciate!
Brooks
10-17-2002, 12:26 AM
Guys, look on the bright side...at least you are not getting a bunch of panties thrown at you, like we did back in the '70s :D
Mike N
10-17-2002, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by lneal
Well rickbass, I can't say I'm tired of having women flash me, but I see what you mean. I've noticed a bit of hipocrisy among women (girls?) in clubs that play "bootie music" on band breaks. First, we are told that women are not sex objects. And if we make a "sexist" remark we get the riot act read to us. Yet, when the "bootie music" is playing, these women will be on the dance floor shaking their butts and rubbing their body parts on men they don't even know! Dancing to sexist lyrics like "Just shake that a$$ bi%$h and let me see what you got" or "You a fine mot#$%f%$^er won't you back that a$$ up.
Seems like sexism is OK as long as you're having fun and lookin' hot!
How come when guys talk dirty to a woman its called harassment, but if they talk dirty to us its $3.99 a minute?:D
lneal
10-17-2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Mike N
How come when guys talk dirty to a woman its called harassment, but if they talk dirty to us its $3.99 a minute?:D
LOL!!!:D
Jon Burnet
10-24-2002, 08:49 AM
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