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Melf
05-30-2003, 08:47 PM
Background: I was thinking about getting a guitar, to expand my musical horizons.:p I went on over to the thrift store and surprise! There one was, in perfect condition, except for the rust, and the dust, and the dirt, and all the chips...yeah it was a piece.:p But hey, it was only $45. It sounded all right unplugged, and the neck was straight, so I said, "Why not?"

Anyway, the problem is I have no idea who made it! It looks like a Strat copy, except the botton has a groove instead of being rounded like strats are. It's in 3-tone sunburst and has 2 single-coil pickups. 2 switches and 2 pots. It says "audition" on the headstock, but I can't find a brand name or serial number anywhere. It looks like it's from around '65 to '75, judging from how worn it is and the dust. I will have pictures in about a week from now--right now it's being given a new nut(the old one had fallen off). So, anybody know who made it?

PS I forgot to mention, I already checked ebay and did a search on google with no luck.

Munjibunga
05-31-2003, 11:30 AM
You don't need no steenkeeng guitar.

Blackbird
05-31-2003, 11:41 AM
Your guitar is...
























cheap. :p

Melf
05-31-2003, 03:57 PM
Darn you two! you got my hopes up!:( :p

StrudelBass
06-01-2003, 09:29 PM
Pictures.

volker
06-02-2003, 10:57 PM
"Audition" is probably the brand of your guitar, not the model - I have a classical "Audition" guitar. They're guitars one could order from a warehouse catalogue.

Munjibunga
06-02-2003, 11:08 PM
Here's a tidbit.

Audition (http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Audition/)

Does it look like this?

http://buybelowcost.com/smclassifiedspro/images/adimages/82629.JPG

Melf
06-03-2003, 02:05 PM
No, it looks a little like a Strat copy, but not anywhere close to that picture. I'll post some pictures on friday ok?

Melf
06-09-2003, 03:57 PM
Sorry I was a little late...


http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1008569

Melf
06-09-2003, 03:59 PM
Another one...

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1008574

volker
06-09-2003, 04:35 PM
Your guitar looks exactly the way I had expected! Very similar to the one Robert Smith of The Cure used to play in the very beginning of the band's career. His was a "Top 20" from Woolworth's, though. @ Melf

Microbass
06-09-2003, 04:38 PM
*bows*

you look like Joey!!


:eek: :eek:

Melf
06-09-2003, 04:46 PM
Hey volker, thanks a lot for your help. Is mine the exact same as yours?

And Microbass, who's Joey?

Ryan Berry
06-09-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Microbass
*bows*

you look like Joey!!


:eek: :eek:
Ouch.

Melf
06-09-2003, 04:55 PM
Will someone PLEASE tell me who joey is:confused:

Sock Justice
06-09-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Melf
Will someone PLEASE tell me who joey is:confused:

Joey. Last name rhymes with "Ramone."

-Dave

Microbass
06-09-2003, 05:10 PM
Joey Ramone man!

The hairy guy at the back in the yellow shirt!

HEY HO! LETS GO!

volker
06-09-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Melf
Hey volker, thanks a lot for your help. Is mine the exact same as yours?...Nah, mine is completely different. Like I said, it's a classical (= acoustic) guitar with nylon strings.
Robert Smith's guitar that I mentioned looks very similar to yours, though:

Melf
06-10-2003, 01:02 AM
Well, there is a certain resemblance, but me look like Joey Ramone? I don't think so:p

Bassbben
06-10-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Melf
Background:

PS I forgot to mention, I already checked ebay and did a search on google with no luck.


Maybe you should do a poll about it ?????

Do you know what my guitar is??

1-
2- Crap?
3- that guitar did World War 1?
4- A piece of plywood?
5- or Wood to burn ???

;)


It is probably some mid 60's from a taiwanese company that decided to build guitar 'cause there was some money to do with it...

Bassbben
06-10-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Melf
Sorry I was a little late...


http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1008569


lol...looks like the PuPs are made of screws??!!
lol;)

Paul A
06-10-2003, 11:04 AM
It's made by "Sakai" ..... I'd hoped i'd never see another one in my lifetime :(

If you paid more than a couple of dollars for it ... you were ripped off .... badly :hmm:


BTW - Don't attempt to adjust the truss rod, one of 3 things will happen:

A: The fingerboard will part company from the neck.

or

B: The neck will part company with the body.

or

C: The headstock will go south and probably take someones eye out ...

Melf
06-10-2003, 10:54 PM
Lol I didn't think anybody could notice that at that distance, but yes, they are made of screws.

Paul, why do you say that I was ripped off? It works great. I'll take your word on the truss rod but it doesn't need it at all, the neck is straight as an arrow! The pots don't even crackle...I'd say it's at least as good as a Squier.

volker
06-10-2003, 11:18 PM
What's so strange about the pole pieces being screws? There are many much more expensive pick-ups around that are built like that!

And @ Melf: Don't listen to people making fun about your guitar - as long as you like your instrument, things will be fine. After all it's you who wants to play it, not them! :)

geezer316
06-11-2003, 11:20 AM
dude that guitar is a vintage Fender! they used a penn name, like Ibanez used to use the name Westminster Fender did the same with the name Audition. that axe is worth like 10.000 $$$ in beat up condition ,yours is mint so i figure you will get about 150,000$ plus any women of your choice. you are so lucky ,i wish i was you!sorry dude i was just teasing,its all good. as long as it works then sport it,i have a japannese p-bass copy that had the headstock sanded down,its a great bass but i'll never know exactely what brand it is:mad: ,its headstock was a commonly used style by many japanese companies(hondo,epiphone,and a few others)it bugged me for a while but soon enuff i forgot all about it and now i dont even play it,i de-fretted it in hopes of re-kindeling my un-dying love for it but to no availe it sits in my corner as the most expensive hat/clothes rack in my house:D

Paul A
06-11-2003, 11:21 AM
I wasn't taking the mickey, I have one of these!
It was humour.

StrudelBass
06-11-2003, 07:40 PM
Resembles a fender musiclander/swinger. (No idea really, just looking at bodies at warmoth.)

Tsal
06-12-2003, 04:32 AM
Definitely some 60's cheapo, by looking at hardware. But I think it's worth something like $200, so it was a good deal :)

Paul A
06-12-2003, 04:54 AM
O.K. ... one more time...

ITS A SAKAI! (Made by SAKAI guitar co. for Woolworths) Made in Japan, late 60's early 70's.
The tailpiece is pressed steel (thin) that the ball ends of the strings hook into.
The bridge is Chrome plated steel, only adjustable for height not intonation.
The whole thing is very light (the body is some kind of basswood laminate).
The pickup "adjustable" pole pieces aren't - if you take one apart it's a single coil wrapped around a "bar" magnet.
Somewhere on there you'll find a sticker or decal saying "steel reinforced neck".
They are absolutely NOWHERE near "Squier" quality.
The whole thing is probably worth 30 dollars ..tops!
I paid £5 for mine (8 dollars?).
The only thing it can be used for is playing slide guitar.

From the net:
"This trademark has been identified by researcher Willie G. Moseley as a "House Brand" of the F. W. Woolworth (Woolco) department stores.
Further information from authors Tony Bacon and Paul Day indicate that guitars with this trademark originated in Japan (later Korea) during the 1960s and 1970s"

geezer316
06-12-2003, 03:38 PM
Paul thanks for ruining my hopes for a new axe :bawl: ,i was gonna offer this dude anything he wanted for that guitar.it is a thang of beauty un-matched by none:D . but seriously is it really that bad of an axe ? its worse than a squier ? WOW ! thats bad :( . but my dad always used to say " A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING, IS BETTER THAN A WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING" if worsae comes to worse you can always use it for scrap wood,or cut it down and make a lifetimes worth of tooth-picks:cool:

volker
06-12-2003, 04:03 PM
I'd go for Paul A's information in his latest post! @ Melf

By the way, Robert Smith had paid £20 for his Woolworth's guitar - he liked it so much that he put one of its pick-ups into the Fender Jazzmaster he used afterwards:

"...The third pick-up is from a Woolworth's Top 20 guitar, my very first electric. I took it in to record our first album, along with a little WEM combo amp. (Manager/producer) Chris Parry, who was paying for the record, said, 'You can't use that!'
We went out and bought a Fender Jazzmaster, and I immediately had the Top 20 pick-up installed in it, which really upset Chris.
I played the entire 'Three Imaginary Boys' album through a Top 20 pick-up..."
- from GUITAR PLAYER September 1992

leanne
06-12-2003, 06:27 PM
I want one. Really :)

volker
06-12-2003, 11:55 PM
In addition to Paul A's info: click here (http://www.thepsychoticreaction.co.uk/equ/oldcrap/).
The "Audition" logo on my acoustic guitar looks exactly like the one on the bottom of this webpage, by the way.