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09-03-2007, 06:17 PM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | Is this bass any good for orchestral audition? My brother snapped this bass in tropical Darwin.
Can someone help me ID it? Those FF holes look like it might be a Prescott, but the depth of the ribs suggests a French or Welsh origin.
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09-03-2007, 06:19 PM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | So, I asked about bridge position?
Oh, it was cheated northwards because of slightly sunken belly. | 
09-03-2007, 06:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio | |  Look how thick that is!!
I can't help ID, but that's an interesting one!
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09-03-2007, 07:49 PM
| | inarticulate bassist | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: lakeland, florida | | | So there's not supposed to be any little heart hole in the bridge?! No wonder I'm not happy with my sound! | 
09-03-2007, 10:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boston, MA | | | The lack of purfling suggests that the shoulders have been cut sometime in its history. My best guess is a Klotz, Barbe, or Chevy. | 
09-04-2007, 06:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | | I wonder where the sound post is?
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09-04-2007, 06:47 AM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | isn't it that thing that pokes out of the top of the bass with the wires attached to it? | 
09-04-2007, 07:40 AM
| | | | certainly looks like an evolutionary freak of nature. interesting. why do you think it's a prescott? just curious. | 
09-04-2007, 07:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sarasota, Florida | | | That looks like a very interesting bass; it's extremely thick and it's beaten up.
My final word:
Don't use that for audition. | 
09-04-2007, 08:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA USA | | | It's a Plotzkettle, kneedeep model. Those turn up in a bulldozing now and again. Does that one have the optional pet door?
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09-04-2007, 02:56 PM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by adbass why do you think it's a prescott? just curious. | The elegant turns of the FFs show the hand of a master, and there are telltale signs of prescott's influence. Also the flattened cheeks of the scroll are a dead giveaway in basses of this pedigree. | 
09-04-2007, 02:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker The elegant turns of the FFs show the hand of a master, and there are telltale signs of prescott's influence. Also the flattened cheeks of the scroll are a dead giveaway in basses of this pedigree. | 
That's the longest after length i've I've ever seen on a tailpiece wire.
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09-04-2007, 03:08 PM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | "Plotzkettle?" Silversorcerer, there is no need to poke fun at this bass or question my sincerity. It is definitely not a Plotzelkettel (spelling!!!) as they have never been imported into Darwin.
I am trying to ascertain the restoration potential of this bass; the top appears to be completely free of cracks, the popped seams are held securely with tape, and although slightly sunken the arching can be expertly restored by a master luthier. The scroll is clearly original. I am thinking of making an offer on the item, which is held in a private collection.
I wonder whether Arnold Schnitzer would be interested in taking this bass on as a long-term project.  | 
09-04-2007, 03:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker "Plotzkettle?" Silversorcerer, there is no need to poke fun at this bass or question my sincerity. It is definitely not a Plotzelkettel (spelling!!!) as they have never been imported into Darwin.
I am trying to ascertain the restoration potential of this bass; the top appears to be completely free of cracks, the popped seams are held securely with tape, and although slightly sunken the arching can be expertly restored by a master luthier. The scroll is clearly original. I am thinking of making an offer on the item, which is held in a private collection.
I wonder whether Arnold Schnitzer would be interested in taking this bass on as a long-term project.  | Have you called Ken Smith?
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09-04-2007, 06:21 PM
|  | Supporting Member Luthier: Bresque Basses, rep: Paulin EUB | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | Actually Paul, I haven’t, because I suspect that having deeper pockets than mine, he might want to snap this bass up from under me.
And you're a very naughty boy, but yes I think I do know now what you are hinting at; the Prescott lead was a red herring.
The baroque shoulders and hump at the neck block of this bass rather give it away as an early Bohmann, don’t you think? Perhaps before Bohmann developed his purfling skills? | 
09-04-2007, 06:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Co. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew Tucker Actually Paul, I haven’t, because I suspect that having deeper pockets than mine, he might want to snap this bass up from under me.
And you're a very naughty boy, but yes I think I do know now what you are hinting at; the Prescott lead was a red herring.
The baroque shoulders and hump at the neck block of this bass rather give it away as an early Bohmann, don’t you think? Perhaps before Bohmann developed his purfling skills? | 
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09-04-2007, 06:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA USA | | | I still think it is a Pltzketmixitlup. No need for it to be imported to Darwin. It could have evolved locally. Heck I've seen those before the tail dropped off with vestiges of the gills still plainly visible. Then again it could be a hybrid variety. Perhaps crossed with a sunken galleon. It almost looks as if it has grown deeper ribs at some point.
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09-05-2007, 12:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Silversorcerer It could have evolved locally. Heck I've seen those before the tail dropped off with vestiges of the gills still plainly visible. Then again it could be a hybrid variety. Perhaps crossed with a sunken galleon. It almost looks as if it has grown deeper ribs at some point. | Shouldn't have natural selection made that one go extinct a long time ago?  | 
09-06-2007, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tbassist4 Shouldn't have natural selection made that one go extinct a long time ago?  | That's the big hole in Darwin;- adaptive (?) Natural selection (?);- It all depends on what the chicks dig, don't it? 
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